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, " jagbir

singh " <adishakti_org wrote:

 

" Interpretations of religious texts have always been from a male point of view

because throughout religious history they have been in power -- similar to the

notion that the winners write the history. "

 

Dear Jagbir and All,

 

i agree with your statement.

 

Here are some verses from the Book of John, which i believe clearly describes

the Adi Shakti's relationship with God, and the Work of Creation that the Divine

Mother does, yet no mention is made of a " Her " . Rather, She is called a " He " . Is

this perhaps the handiwork of what you call the " male point of view " ?:

 

" In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being by Him, and apart

from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. In Him was life, and

the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the

darkness did not comprehend it. (John 1:1-5)

 

Then we have these further verses, which say:

 

" There was the true light which, coming into the world, enlightens every man. He

was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know

Him. " (John 1:9-10)

 

Since Shri Mataji has taught that the Adi Shakti does all the Work of Creation,

how come in the Bible it is referring to Jesus (the Christ) as the One through

whom the world was made?

 

Perhaps the Scriptures are not referring to Jesus, the Man, but to Jesus, the

Christ Light or Christ Consciousness, which manifested through Shri Jesus.

 

Is this " true light " being referred to the same Light that we have seen in

photos of Shri Mataji, that your children have also revealed is the " Light of

God Almighty " ?

 

Is it true then, that all Divine Incarnations manifest this Light of God, that

is " Christ Consciousness " ?

 

So, what is the difference between other incarnations and the Adi Shakti in this

manifestation?

 

i know these are very difficult questions, and any clarifications you can give

would be greatly appreciated. Here is also a quote from adishakti.org which

might help:

 

" According to writer and founder of Gnostic Movement, Samael Aun Weor, the

" Logos is the Cosmic Christ, that vibrant energy which always seek to assist

suffering humanity.

 

And those who incarnate the Christ (Krishna, Horus, Jesus, Fu Hsi, etc.) are one

with the Word; they become the Word made flesh. These Messiah’s emerge from

various cultures throughout history in order to establish great spiritual

traditions that glorify the Word and teach the means to incarnate It. They come

to fulfill the purpose of the Word and to clarify true teachings that inevitably

degenerate through exposure in the world of men and must be reinvigorated.

 

Thus, within these avatars " The Son of Man " is born into the world as a beacon

of light that dispels the darkness of ignorance. Although the Cosmic Christ is

neither limited to time or space It expresses through Messiahs who are born into

specific cultures during certain times in history. As the inevitable result the

objective truths of the Cosmic Christ are received in a way that is specific to

the time and place a Messiah delivers the teachings. And so despite the

ever-changing face of the teaching (due to the disparate cultures of world

tradition) the essence of the teaching is fixed, because the truths contained

within the teachings are themselves objective and immutable. These truths are

contained within the very lives (both real and legendary) of the Messiahs that

teach them. "

 

http://www.adishakti.org/meeting_his_messengers.htm

 

warmest regards,

 

violet

 

 

> Religion and Women's Liberation

> Hindu women suffer largely because of religious

> dogma

>

> Religion has been the guiding force behind many

> of the acts that people carry out. Ask an orthodox

> Hindu woman about the significance of her acts

> and she will point to the codes of her religion

> without haste.

>

> " You must not touch the male members in the

> family during periods, " my grandmother and

> mother often warn me. Their reasoning has its

> basis in the religious belief that women are

> impure during that time. My reluctance wouldn't

> work here because they are rigid in their beliefs.

>

> It was after I wrote an article about honor killings

> in Islam and the provision cited for it in the

> religious text that I became fascinated by the

> portrayal of women in religion. Also, because

> studies have revealed that most acts like honor

> killings are not in accordance with religious

> ethics.

>

> Lately I have concentrated on Hinduism because

> Hindu women, like Islamic women, have been

> suffering largely because of religious dogma.

> Women, though the counterpart of males, are

> portrayed as the slave. The term " impurity " is

> synonymous with female. Women are impure

> several times during menstruation and even after

> childbirth.

>

> " The religion that suppresses us must be called a

> vice, there is no point of virtue, " says Susmita, a

> female high school student. " What wrong have

> we done to God? "

>

> Like Susmita, many blame religious beliefs for

> creating favorable ground for discrimination. But

> there is a clear contradiction also because

> Hinduism worships the goddess with utmost

> respect. Rather, say major gods in this particular

> religion are female. It is even claimed that

> Hinduism has the longest, continuous history of

> goddess worship. Female divinities like Laxmi,

> Saraswati and Kali are worshipped as mother

> goddesses.

>

> But this triumph of the divine feminine has

> caused no notable difference for suffering

> women. Goddess worship in general has not have

> gifted females with greater authority and

> independence. Even some of the ways in which

> Hindus relate women to the goddess are rather

> unfair.

>

> Sita, who is taken as an example of the devoted

> wife (of lord Rama), is worshipped for her

> sacrifice for her husband. Bur lord Ram made her

> take the fire test to prove her purity as she was

> abducted by Ravana. Suspecting her purity, Lord

> Ram exiled her while she was pregnant and made

> her bring up their sons in the jungle. To this day,

> a loyal and self-sacrificing wife is compared to

> Sita. Likewise, the goddess Laxmi is always

> portrayed as massaging the feet of lord Vishnu. In

> every Hindu household, wives and mothers are

> referred to as the Laxmi of the house, as Laxmi is

> the devoted wife as well as the goddess of

> fortune.

>

> In religious texts like Swasthani, women are

> portrayed as self-sacrificing and submissive for

> the sake of their husbands. They are exposed as

> fasting for months to get the husband they desire.

> Parvati worships and fasts for a month to get

> Shiva as a husband.

>

> Twenty-year-old Aruna was in fasting for more

> than a month. The fasting is called " Swasthani

> brat. " There is a popular saying that the fasting is

> for the well-being of the husband and for

> unmarried ones. It is said that they can get the

> husband they desire. For women in Hinduism, the

> husband, or pati, is the spiritual lord.

>

> In an essay in a book titled _Is the Goddess a

> Feminist: The Politics of South Asian

> Goddesses_, Rita Das Gupta points out that the

> Smriti literature that is the foundation of Hindu

> codes of conduct recognized Stri Dharma as the

> proper duty of the women. Stri Dharma stipulates

> that the focus of a women's entire religious

> devotion should be her husband.

>

> Most of the female divinities are portrayed as

> wives of the gods, but their significance has been

> overshadowed with various interpretations to

> undermine their sovereignty. The tradition of

> Shakti worship has dominated Hinduism. Shakti

> is the female divinity who represents the power of

> her divine male counterpart. In her essay, Gupta

> says that though in Devi Mahatmya, or the

> glorification of the goddess, the female is

> portrayed as absolute, and various concepts of

> feminine principles combine with the notion of

> ultimate reality to create a great goddess who is

> the power inherent in creation and dissolution.

> This is not stressed in any Shakta tradition [!!!]

> [really???], and interpreted from the male point of

> view.

>

> But an ignored fact is that Hinduism stresses the

> balance between Shiva and Shakti. Shiva, a male

> here, has to be accompanied by Shakti, a female.

> The two beings are so inseparable that they fuse

> together to create Ardhanareshowr, who takes on

> a half-male and half-female form and is

> considered most powerful. We celebrate many

> festivals praising the Shaktis, like Kali. In

> mythology, when the gods couldn't defeat the

> demon called Maishashur, they worshipped the

> goddess Durga, who manifested as the destroyer

> Kali and killed it, saving the gods.

>

> Interpretations of religious texts have always

> been from a male point of view because

> throughout religious history they have been in

> power -- similar to the notion that the winners

> write the history. Women are always denied self-

> determination. Who knows if the goddess Laxmi

> sits at the feet of lord Vishnu. Whoever drew the

> sketch must have been a male; or, the truth could

> have been altered. None of the religious texts is

> the truth; they are fictions produced and

> reproduced many times as per the convenience of

> those in power, or those who sought power. To

> liberate women from male-dominated tradition,

> we need to reinterpret everything. The liberation

> of women is a huge challenge as religious

> misconceptions of vice are deep rooted in society

> as a whole.

>

> Religion and Women's Liberation

> Smita Poudel

> OhMy News, Korea

>

> Further reading:

> Hindu Goddesses: Visions of the Divine

> Feminine in the Hindu Religious Tradition by

> David Kinsley.

>

> Victory to the Mother: The Hindu Goddess of

> Northwest India in Myth, Ritual and Symbol by

> Kathleen M. Erndl.

>

> Is the Goddess a Feminist?: The Politics of South

> Asian Goddesses edited by Alf Hiltebeitel and

> Kathleen M. Erndl.

>

> Religion and Women's Liberation

> Hindu women suffer largely because of religious

> dogma

>

>

> ---------------------------

>

> Dear devotees of the Adi Shakti,

>

> Namaskar: I bow to the Divine Mother that resides in you.

>

> i just want to comment on the last paragraph:

>

> " Interpretations of religious texts have always

> been from a male point of view because throughout

> religious history they have been in power -- similar

> to the notion that the winners write the history.

>

> This is true and that is cause of the low status of women in

Hinduism

> and Islam. But i have heard Muslim men making comments that left me

> shaking my head. In one documentary a guy from North-West Frontier

> Province of Pakistan shot his wife dead just because she was seen

> talking with another male relative. He spent six months in prison

and

> fined some cows by the panchayat (male dominated village committee).

> His regret ..... losing his cows instead of the 'animal' he shot

dead.

>

> " Women are always denied self-determination. Who knows

> if the goddess Laxmi sits at the feet of lord Vishnu.

> Whoever drew the sketch must have been a male; or, the

> truth could have been altered. "

>

> i know that the Goddess Laxmi does not sit at the feet of lord

Vishnu but besides Him as an equal partner, His Shakti. That is true

for all the deities, barring none. Yes, those who make Her

subservient to lord Vishnu must be obviously males.

>

> " None of the religious texts is the truth; they are

> fictions produced and reproduced many times as per

> the convenience of those in power, or those who

> sought power. "

>

> This is a false statement. It is the scriptural truth of the Divine

> Feminine that has been misinterpreted by those in power. That is why

> we do not hear of the Adi Shakti (Holy Spirit, Ruh, Aykaa Mayee) who

> is the active aspect and power of God Almighty in creation,

sustenance

> and destruction. It is this Divine Feminine/Mother/Shakti within

> humans who grants Self-realization and liberation to all. The

> Primordial Mother is again in ascendancy and revealing Her Ultimate

> Reality. All the followers of the 'patriarchal religions' will only

> be able to resurrect/liberate/evolve themselves into the eternal

> spirit at Her Feet. The male guardians of these patriarchal

religious

> regimes are not going to welcome the Matriarch of All, unless they

> want liberation. It is actually a simple way to compel those in

power

> to submit themselves unconditionally to Her, and start respecting

the

> feminine half of humanity.

>

> We are but at the earliest dawn of the Millennium of the Spirit and

> holding Her Truth in the palm of our hands. The Truth is that the

> same Divine Feminine pervades all the Holy Scriptures and religions.

> It is going to take time for it to enter human onsciousness .......

> ................ but the promise of moksa (liberation/release from

> mundane earthly existence) can accelerate the process.

>

> Jai Shri Ganapathy,

>

>

> jagbir

>