Pujas cost money, I thought it was free....

[Guest guest]

Dear all

 

I've been practicing sahaja yoga for a while now, I got my realization

in 2003 and then gradually through experience I realized shri Mataji

was the Great Incarnation of this day.

However I never joined the organization. I could also see that many do

not follow what Mother says but try to control everything you do.

anyway, I had the opportunity to see Shri Mataji in person once at the

airport of Paris and i gave her a flower at the time, though at the

time to me she was only a Master of Yoga, not the world savior.

this year I wanted to go to India for the birthday puja but one thing

kept me from going : there's 2 pujas and it's 200 dollars one puja, so

400 both. I was told don't worry you can pay and go to only one if you

cannot afford both.

Then I found it strange that when she was ill, recently, we cannot

have clear news of her. We hear she is in the hospital / then she is

out / then finnally no she is still in the hospital/ect....

So I was wondering if all pujas since the start of shri Mataji 's

mission where free or if Mataji asked money (I don't think she did) or

if it's the WCSY organization that is corrupt and takes all the money ?

thank you for your great websites. Keep on !

 

 

Baba Chihabi

 

PS : I won't worry for the Pujas because She appears to me and guides

me in my visions of dreams and meditations !

[Guest guest]

Dear Baba Chihabi,

 

i believe the puja money is used to run the organization and is not

pocketed by WCASY or anyone else. The puja monies have always been

used by the Sahaja Yoga organization for good causes. No one has used

them for personal enrichment or material benefit.

 

But you do not have to go to any puja if you do not feel like paying

$200. Moreover, nowadays Shri Mataji seldom appears in person, and

when She does there is no speech i.e., She remains silent. i do not

see the point of paying $200 as you may be disappointed.

 

Since She already appears and guides you from within i think there is

no need to seek Her physical incarnation. There is really nothing

much to gain from going to a puja unless you want to again see Her

physical manifestation, or satisfy some other desires.

 

regards,

 

jagbir

 

 

, " centrebahai "

<centrebahai wrote:

>

> Dear all

>

> I've been practicing sahaja yoga for a while now, I got my

realization in 2003 and then gradually through experience I realized

shri Mataji was the Great Incarnation of this day.

> However I never joined the organization. I could also see that many

do not follow what Mother says but try to control everything you do.

> anyway, I had the opportunity to see Shri Mataji in person once at

the airport of Paris and i gave her a flower at the time, though at

the time to me she was only a Master of Yoga, not the world savior.

> this year I wanted to go to India for the birthday puja but one

thing kept me from going : there's 2 pujas and it's 200 dollars one

puja, so 400 both. I was told don't worry you can pay and go to only

one if you cannot afford both.

> Then I found it strange that when she was ill, recently, we cannot

> have clear news of her. We hear she is in the hospital / then she is

> out / then finnally no she is still in the hospital/ect....

> So I was wondering if all pujas since the start of shri Mataji 's

> mission where free or if Mataji asked money (I don't think she did)

or if it's the WCSY organization that is corrupt and takes all the

money ?

> thank you for your great websites. Keep on !

>

>

> Baba Chihabi

>

> PS : I won't worry for the Pujas because She appears to me and

guides me in my visions of dreams and meditations !

>

[Guest guest]

Re: Pujas cost money, I thought it was free....

 

 

Dear Sharmila,

 

You should take your time to read and properly grasp my reply to

Chibabi. The problem is that you have not. That is why the subtle

nuances of a delicate and sensitive matter made you react with

unnecessary emotion. i do not want to explain because if you cannot

grasp it despite my saying so it is alright with me. (But i will give

you a hint - ask WCASY members to temporarily loan Shri Mataji Her

own Will prior to every puja.)

 

There are two types of followers nowadays:

- the vast majority who meditate on the external, physical Shri

Mataji of the Adi Shakti and empower WCASY and their SYSSR;

- the tiny but growing minority who meditate on the internal, eternal

Adi Shakti and want to declare Her advent and message to all humanity.

 

If by splitting into two you mean differentiating the followers of

WCASY and their SYSSR from the devotees of the Adi Shakti's Advent

and Divine Message to humanity you are absolutely right. If by that

you mean separating the chaff (liars, cowards and hypocrites) from

the wheat (those with the conscience, dharma and nature of self-

realized souls) then you are so right again. If by that you mean

things will get worse after Her Mahasamadhi you are correct again.

 

In the end either the WCASY and their SYSSR or the Adi Shakti and Her

Divine Message will survive, not both. i am just giving advise as to

how to edge your bets on the future outcome of this struggle.

 

i remember fallen and disgraced leaders like Yogi Mahajan, Antonnio

and others having tremendous vibrations. Even Shri Mataji's chair,

carpet, pillow, and footrest on the stage had fantastic vibrations

.............. but i never started worshipping them. (Even Her pet

dogs have vibrations.) Am i to worship/obey/believe Sir CP because he

has great vibrations or because council members want SYs to believe

he is Sir Shiva? Actually what are you implying about him Sharmila?

 

regards,

 

jagbir

 

 

, alice abergel

<lilysharmila wrote:

>

> Dear Jagbir,

>

> Jay Shri Mataji,

>

> Congratulations for your site,

> but it's a great pity that you still bracking sugar in

> the back of WCSY, and the Foundation desired by Shri

> Adi Shaktii, it seems that you and Violet are beaking

> Sahaja Yoga in twoo, then what would really happens

> after Mother's Maha Samadhi.

> By Her Grâce She has given us self réalisation and we

> are our own guru, this means nothing can hurt us as we

> not only are the spirit but also are in Her SAHASRARA.

> I'm surprised about you answear to Chibabi yes you are

> right of course we don''t need to pay for puja if we

> don't want to, and nobody is obliged to attend puja if

> it's not their pure desire. Yes we can meet MoTHER

> during méditation. Of course Shri Mother doesn't give

> speech anymore, She tought us all things. Telling not

> to go to puja cause She doesn't speak, how can you say

> that,it's an abheration, do you know what a darshan is

> ? I's an unbeleivable blessing to be in Her presence.

> Yes She got old so what ? She is eternally young and

> beautiful what our eyes see is just a maya. I would

> give my life to see her again, and She is coming to

> Austria soon.Of course we have to be detached from

> Her physical aspect but She Is and still is Adi Shakti

> !

> Regards . **Sharmila belgium **

> P.S < by the way Sir C.P has tremendous vibrations

> ....!

>

>

> --- jagbir singh <adishakti_org a écrit :

>

> > Dear Baba Chihabi,

> >

> > i believe the puja money is used to run the

> > organization and is not

> > pocketed by WCASY or anyone else. The puja monies

> > have always been

> > used by the Sahaja Yoga organization for good

> > causes. No one has used

> > them for personal enrichment or material benefit.

> >

> > But you do not have to go to any puja if you do not

> > feel like paying

> > $200. Moreover, nowadays Shri Mataji seldom appears

> > in person, and

> > when She does there is no speech i.e., She remains

> > silent. i do not

> > see the point of paying $200 as you may be

> > disappointed.

> >

> > Since She already appears and guides you from within

> > i think there is

> > no need to seek Her physical incarnation. There is

> > really nothing

> > much to gain from going to a puja unless you want to

> > again see Her

> > physical manifestation, or satisfy some other

> > desires.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > jagbir

> >

> >

> > ,

> > " centrebahai "

> > <centrebahai@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear all

> > >

> > > I've been practicing sahaja yoga for a while now,

> > I got my

> > realization in 2003 and then gradually through

> > experience I realized

> > shri Mataji was the Great Incarnation of this day.

> > > However I never joined the organization. I could

> > also see that many

> > do not follow what Mother says but try to control

> > everything you do.

> > > anyway, I had the opportunity to see Shri Mataji

> > in person once at

> > the airport of Paris and i gave her a flower at the

> > time, though at

> > the time to me she was only a Master of Yoga, not

> > the world savior.

> > > this year I wanted to go to India for the birthday

> > puja but one

> > thing kept me from going : there's 2 pujas and it's

> > 200 dollars one

> > puja, so 400 both. I was told don't worry you can

> > pay and go to only

> > one if you cannot afford both.

> > > Then I found it strange that when she was ill,

> > recently, we cannot

> > > have clear news of her. We hear she is in the

> > hospital / then she is

> > > out / then finnally no she is still in the

> > hospital/ect....

> > > So I was wondering if all pujas since the start of

> > shri Mataji 's

> > > mission where free or if Mataji asked money (I

> > don't think she did)

> > or if it's the WCSY organization that is corrupt and

> > takes all the

> > money ?

> > > thank you for your great websites. Keep on !

> > >

> > >

> > > Baba Chihabi

> > >

> > > PS : I won't worry for the Pujas because She

> > appears to me and

> > guides me in my visions of dreams and meditations !

> > >

> >

> >