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Dear Kyyan and All,

 

In his " Parable of Ten Virgins " , Jesus tells how the ten virgins had to have

sufficient oil to keep their lamps burning, in readiness for the bridegroom's

arrival. Those who did have sufficient oil and kept their lamps burning, joined

in the wedding feast, but those who then had to go and get more oil for their

lamps, missed out on the wedding feast, because the doors were shut (which

suggests that there is a " time-frame " or window of opportunity involved).

 

My understanding is that the the oil referred to is the oil of the Holy Spirit

in our hearts, and the light is our en'light'enment that must be established

within. The bridegroom, i believe to be Shri Kalki's coming. Here is Shri Jesus'

parable:

 

Parable of Ten Virgins

 

Then the kingdom of heaven will be comparable to ten virgins, who took their

lamps, and went out to meet the bridegroom. And five of them were foolish, and

five were prudent. For when the foolish took their lamps, they took no oil with

them, but the prudent took oil in flasks along with their lamps. Now while the

bridegroom was delaying, they all got drowsy and began to sleep.

 

But at midnight there was a shout, 'Behold, the bridegroom! Come out to meet

him.'

 

Then all those virgins rose, and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said to

the prudent, 'Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.' But the

prudent answered, saying, 'No, there will not be enough for us and you too; go

instead to the dealers and buy some for yourselves.' And while they were going

away to make the purchase, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in

with him to the wedding feast; and the door was shut.

 

And later the other virgins also came, saying, 'Lord, lord, open for us.' But he

answered and said, 'Truly I say to you, I do not know you.'

 

Be on the alert then, for you do not know the day nor the hour. (Matthew

25:1-13)

 

 

In Bombay, on the 28th of September, 1979, Shri Mataji gave quite comprehensive

information on the subject of Shri Kalki, and his connection with the Last

Judgment and Resurrection. i have written it in the English way, but the essence

of what Shri Mataji says, has not been changed. This subject is of such great

importance to our understanding, that in this instance i have included quite a

lot of material, in order to give us as much of the 'big picture' as possible.

 

violet

 

 

 

 

SHRI KALKI

 

(Shri Mataji - Bombay, India - 28 September, 1979)

 

 

Today's subject is the relationship between Kundalini & Kalki. The word Kalki is

actually an abbreviation of the word 'Nishkalank' which means the same as my

name 'Nirmala'. It [Nishkalank] means it is spotlessly clean, without any spots

or marks.

 

This incarnation has been described in many Puranas and will be coming on this

Earth on a white horse in a village of Sambhalpur (as they call it). It is very

interesting how people take everything literally. The word 'Sambhal' means

'Bhal'. It is the Forehead. It means that 'at that stage', Kalki is situated on

your Bhal or Forehead and he is going to be born. That is the real meaning of

the word.

 

For us, in between Christ and the destroying incarnation of Mahavishnu called

'Kalki', there is a 'Time Given' for human beings to rectify themselves to

enable them to enter the kingdom of God. The Bible calls this 'The Last

Judgment'.... that you will all be judged on this Earth. The population of the

world is maximum, as practically all those who have aspirations to enter into

the kingdom of God, have been born in the Modern Times, or are going to be born

very soon.

 

This is the most important time because Sahaja Yoga [union with the Divine

within] is also 'The Last Judgment'. It is fantastic to have this, but that is a

fact, and it is the Truth. You can understand though, that Mother's love makes

it very easy for you to get your self-realisaton and that the whole story of the

Last Judgment, which looks like such a horrifying experience, has been made very

beautiful, tender and delicate, and does not have to disturb you. But this is

the Last Judgment, 'I tell you' and you are all going to be judged through

Sahaja Yoga [through your Union with the Divine], [as to] whether you can enter

the kingdom of God, or not.

 

When we talk of Kalki, we have to remember that between getting our Realisation

and entering into the kingdom of God, we can falter very much. This is called as

'Yoga Bhrasta Sthiti', where people take to yoga [to union], enter into the yoga

[the union] but are still enchanted by their Pravaruttis. Examples of this

enchantment are an ego-oriented man, or a money-oriented man, who wants to

dominate, can form a group of people, whom he will dominate with his ideas, and

therefore he can go in for a fall, and the rest of the people will go with him

also in Sahaja Yoga itself.

 

In Sahaja yoga [in spontaneous union with the Divine] it is left to your freedom

to understand that you have to keep to the mains; you have to keep to the

growth, you have to keep to the whole and not to one person here and there, who

is trying to overpower the rest.

 

'Kalki' means there are eleven powers which are guarding the beauty of sahaja

yoga [the beauty of your union with the Divine]. Anybody who tries to play

around with sahaja yoga is harmed very badly. So today is the day of telling you

about the dangers of 'playing around' with the Divine. So far people have been

taking them [saintly persons] for granted. They have tortured great saints. All

the time human beings are tortured. Now I am warning them in almost every

lecture of mine, that don't try this trick today, because Kalki is already on.

Don't try to trouble anybody who is a saintly person, who is a good person. 'Be

careful' about it because Kalki is on. And once this power comes on you, you

would not know how to hide yourself.

 

Not only to the sahaja yogis, but I am telling to the whole world today that " Be

careful " . Do not try to harm others. Do not try to take advantage of others, and

do not try to show off your own powers. Because, if once this destruction starts

in your life you won't know how to stop it.

 

This sort of life we have been leading 'of compromising', not understanding what

is Truth, and what is not Truth. One side is complete 'blind faith' into all

these things that are going on, not only in India, but all over the world. We

are simple innocent people with a lot of 'Havikta' within. But that does not

mean that we should be stupid and be fools.

 

It is so common with us that we see with our open eyes what is happening, yet

still we will be 'going on' with the same things in the temple. Even in the name

of God we are doing sins after sins. We are adding sins to our sins, and instead

of clearing it out and understanding it through our developed brain, we just go

adding to it. That is why I call people " tamasic " who do not use their brains.

They are Moodh Buddhis [dull intellects]. They just fall on somebody because

there is some sort of hypnotic influence, or some sort of charismatic movement.

And people are running after them like madmen and adding up to the destruction

by piling up sins after sins, instead of cleansing themselves.

 

This " Time " that we have got is a most precious time and one has to be very

careful and alert about oneself. One should not depend on any other person for

help in this; but should try to completely consolidate one's own being into the

kingdom of God, and occupy the highest seat in the heart of the God Almighty.

Because when Kalki will come, He will slaughter all these people, without any

compassion. He is devoid of any compassion. There are 'Eleven Rudras' in Him.

This means that there are eleven destructive powers, absolutely powerfully

settled in Him.

 

When I see all that (because I can see all that) and this emergency grows into

me, and I tell you 'Beware of Him'. Don't play 'the fool' with Him. Don't take

it easy and do not compromise, with these nonsensical people. Stick on to the

right. Otherwise, the day is near when Kalki is going to come.

 

I have to warn all the sahaja yogis who are here. Because sahaja yoga is the

last judgment. It is not only that you will be judged and that you are entering

into the kingdom of God, but that you become the citizens of God, is correct.

Apart from that you are capable of being there where you have the complete

surrendering and understanding of divine love.

 

Today's lecture is going to be very sharp for you, because the incarnation that

you have asked me to speak on is a very sharp one. It is the sharpest of all. We

had Krishna's incarnation, for example. He has Hanan Shakti. He has killed

Kansa, so many Rakshasas. You know also that as a child, He killed Putana, but

He had 'Leela' also. He had love and He did give concessions to people. He

forgave people.

 

Christ is the embodiment of forgiveness. Forgiveness of Christ is nothing but

'the power of sustenance within him'. If He Explodes, the whole forgiveness will

come on us as a big disaster, if you are not able to understand the value of his

forgiveness. He has said very clearly that 'anything said against me [against

Christ] will be tolerated' but a word against the Holy Ghost won't be

tolerated " . Now you have to understand that the Holy Ghost is the Adishakti.

 

One has to understand that such an Incarnation is imminent, and Shri Krishna's

Powers are given to Him, which is only Hanana Shakti. Brahma Deva's Powers which

are only Hanana Shakti are given to Him. Shiva's Powers, which are also Hanana

Shakti, i.e. a part of his 'Tandav' is given to Him. Similarly Bhairava's

Khadaga Shri Ganesha's Parshu, Shri Hanumana's Gada and the Siddhis which are

going to destroy are given to Him. Buddha's forgiveness and Mahavira's AHIMSA,

are going to turn upside down. All these Eleven powers are going to come on the

top of us when we will be finished with Sahaja Yoga, when we will be absolutely

sorted out, and the last killing will be done by Him. I wish it is just a

killing [but] it is not going to be an ordinary Hanana, like even the Devi has

done. The Devi has killed all the Rakshasas, thousands of year back, but they

are back in the seat again.

 

Now the problem is very different at the present moment, which you should try to

understand. The problem of Kali-Yuga, is that, there are not pure and simple

persons, such as Sadhus and Rakshasas. So many Rakshasas have entered into your

brains. You side with so many people, who are wrong and who are doing all sorts

of wrong things in the name of religion, in the name of politics, progress,

education and all that. Once you have sided with them, then they are in your

brains; they are within you. When they are within you, how to destroy them?

 

You may be a good person, but you may be destroyed because you are having them

in your heads. So there is not a hard and fast rule to say who is a real

negative person, and who is a real positive person. Only Sahaja Yoga

[spontaneous union with the Divine] is going to cleanse you and make you

absolutely positive. This is the only way when your Ankura (sprouting) starts

giving you Realization and you feel your Self.

 

And with that Self, you know that you are Yourself and not this Mirage. You

start enjoying that Self. When you start enjoying it, you give up all the things

that make you compromise and make you a 'horrible mixed-up person'. All this

confusion will then go. So it is essential that we take to Sahaja Yoga [union

with the Divine] in a most dedicated manner and free ourselves and others, of

all the wrong doings.

 

Kalki is a very big subject. If you see Kalki Purana, it is such a big book.

When is the time coming? If this is a living process, when will the work be

finished? When you see that there is not any more chance of having any more

people coming in this " Time " , then Kalki will come down. So today is the day of

warning you, because you have asked me to speak on Kalki. He is placed on our

forehead. When the chakra of Kalki is caught up, the whole of Murdha, which is

on the top goes out of order. In the Kundalini awakening, we find that if the

Murdha goes out of order, the Kundalini doesn't rise. The whole head becomes

blocked. Such people do not allow the Kundalini to rise above the Hamsa Chakra.

At the most they might try to raise it up to Agnya, but then it drops down.

 

There is another reason also, as I have said that if you put your head on the

feet of wrong Gurus, you suffer. Too much thinking also creates problem at the

right hand side and one of the aspects of Kalki gets spoiled; and there is an

imbalance created on this side. The whole forehead, if it is full of lot of

bumps, then we must know that the Kalki Chakra is out of order. If it is out of

order then what is the thing that one should do to keep the Kalki alright? To

keep your Kalki Chakra all right you must have an Awe for God, and fear to do

wrong. If you are doing something wrong, and in your Heart of hearts, you know

it, then please don't do it. Otherwise, your Kalki will go out.

 

When you have that awe for God, and know that He is all pervading, all powerful,

that He has the powers to raise us to this state of higher being and also He has

powers to bestow all the blessings that He has. He is the most compassionate God

or we can say, the most compassionate father that one can think of. But in the

same way [as a father], he has a wrath, and if that wrath falls upon you, nobody

can slip from under it. Nobody can stop it, and the compassion of the mother

will not be listened to because He may say that " you have spoiled your children

by giving them too much looseness " . But if you do anything for Him, or for your

own being or for your Self-Realisation, you will be placed in the highest

position.

 

Today, you may be the biggest millionaire, you may be the richest, may be the

biggest political leader and all that nonsense. In the presence of God, those

who are dear to God will be placed at the highest position and not all these

worldly things, which looks so interesting and enchanting to you.

 

The most important thing is where are you as far as God is concerned? That

relation you must establish, by first finding out your Self (your Atma) to

Sahaja Yoga [your union with the Divine] and then relating yourself to that.

 

(Shri Mataji - " Shri Kalki " - Bombay, India - 28 September, 1979)

 

 

 

, " v_koa " <v_koa

wrote:

>

> Violet,

>

> As usual a lovely response.

>

> I know that in a sense we are on borrowed time and that time is

running out as far as how much is left to learn the lessons needed to

be learned to achieve your liberation. Now this has always weighed

heavy on my mind but im not exactly sure what that time limit means.

>

> I know 2013 is approaching soon and is the time when this Sahaja

yoga really takes off and the change in human conciousness on a grand

scale begins, from what i can understand of what Jagbir has said

about it, but what does it mean that the time is short?

>

> If indeed short means have it accomplished by 2013(end of the mayan

calander), then thats not a lot of time to truly become the spirit;

plus all those who are looking but have yet to find it, that could

plausably leave them a year until 2013 to figure it out. I know time

> is short in God's plans could mean 50, 100 or 500 hundred years,

but i wanted to know if that " short " time really means extremely

short in human understanding or any information regarding this that

you or anyone else can give.

>

> I know Shri Mataji said we could become our own master in a few

months if we truly wanted to become that, but thats few and far

between i imagine.

>

> If indeed it is the case that its fast approaching, it almost makes

me want to just go live in the mountains and focus day and night on

my ascent and not waste precious time doing the whole family thing,

job thing etc( not like i would do that but that sort of feeling).

>

> It seems that we are suppose to have normal lives, but in

contradiction the time is short and we have to really take to this

ascent and work endlessesly towards it; how is that possible?

>

> ANy thoughts :-)

>

> Kyyan

> ,

" Violet " <violet.tubb@> wrote:

> >

> > ,

> > " caraleen98 " <caraleen98@> wrote:

> >

> > " There are some questions that I would like to ask about the

subject

> > of reincarnation. What significance and perspective do memories of

> > past lives have in regards to our present life?

> >

> > Why do the memories of past lives begin to surface? I know that

it is the present moment that is important, but to what extent do the

qualities and actions of the person that we were once were affect the

person that we are now? Is this how unfinished karma and destiny fits

in? "

> >

> >

> > Dear Semira,

> >

> > Our " Spirit Within " , who is our individual Mother Within, knows

about all our lifetimes, because She accompanied us in all those

lifetimes. However, when we are born, knowledge of our previous

lifetimes is erased. It is called a " veil of forgetting " . It is

purposely done to give us the best advantage to start a new life

without any 'past baggage.' But it also means, that we forget who we

really are, which is the Spirit, and we again have to seek the

> Truth.

> >

> > In this lifetime, we reap the good we have sown in the past

lifetime. Our character is the sum total of all the spiritual lessons

we have learned or not learned. In this lifetime, however, it seems

that our priority is to overcome every spiritual hurdle, and achieve

our spiritual liberation, because this is the Spiritual Harvesting

Time and those who have not completed their lessons, are going to

have to start all over from the beginning again, apparently. So, the

urgency is there. Something momentous is happening, and Shri Mataji

> said we do not have much time left. Even the Mayans are saying the

same thing.

> >

> > The spiritual lessons we have to learn, have to be learned from

the deepest part of ourselves. We have to go " deep within " . Those who

only pretend to go deep, do not achieve their spiritual liberation.

It is not a game, but it is complete spiritual transformation. That

is why Shri Mataji came to help us, to give us our kundalini

> awakening, so that we have the power to transform ourselves from

within. The best way to do that is to " become our Spirit " , by

realising every moment, until this consciousness never leaves us,

that we are not the mind, body, emotions, but we are really the

Spirit. We do have tendencies that we bring over from past lifetimes,

but with the power of our Spirit, and the kundalini energy, we can

overcome these. All these tendencies will come from either our 'over-

inflated-ego' our our conditionings.

> >

> > There are a lot of people who have 'past life regression' and

soforth these days, in order to find out what tendencies they had, or

who they were. Who they were, does not really matter, except maybe

for the novelty value. In any case, whatever the person was, their

> 'good' or 'bad' tendencies will be present in their current

lifetime, and that is what is important to address, that they are

replacing the lower self, with the Higher Self, or Spirit.

> >

> > Sometimes, we wonder why things work out a certain way in our

lives, but the Divine always guides us down a certain path for our

spiritual benevolence. That benevolence is for our spiritual ascent,

and for nothing else, because everything else is only of temporary

> earthly value anyway. It is not of eternal value.

> >

> > In regards to memories of past lives, i think they sometimes

surface, when we are dealing with issues in our present life, that

are related to past lifetimes. Let me give you an experience of mine,

to clarify:

> >

> > When i was a young girl, i had this great desire to play the

piano. However, there were eight children in my family, and my

parents could not afford to give me music lessons. So, i taught

myself to play " by ear " and had to content myself with that, and it

gave me many

> hours of pleasure to play.

> >

> > Years later, in Australia, in the 1970's, i still had the same

dream, to play music. i felt it in my Spirit, that i had a feel for

it, and that i would move people through music. So, when i heard

there was this very special Music Teacher, famous in Sydney, for his

own unique style of teaching, and that he lived in the same street i

lived on, i thought this was my golden opportunity, to achieve my

dream.

> >

> > i rented a small piano, and started to take music lessons from

him. However, that was not to last, because he died, after only a few

months of lessons. i was very devastated, as i had really thrived

under his teaching methods, and knew i would not find anyone like

him, with his unique method of teaching. There was this thing,

whereby music somehow seemed my life, a feeling i must have had from

several past lives, dedicated to music.

> >

> > i guess it took some time for me to get over it, as it must have

been a deep issue for me at that time. In fact, i had three separate

dreams, showing me three separate lifetimes, where i was deeply

involved in music. One with Chinese instruments, one with a harp, and

> one with a grand piano. My Spirit seemed to be showing me that i

should feel fortunate that i have had such great musical past

lifetimes, and that this lifetime, should be dedicated to what i now

know, is the spiritual.

> >

> > Semira, i think our Spirit helps us. She knows us best, and She

knows our every lifetime. When She shows us glimpses, i think She is

trying to inform and help us, so that we can come to terms with our

present lifetime, and achieve our spiritual liberation, at this time.

> >

> > i hope this helps. Here are some things from Shri Mataji.

> >

> > love from violet

> >

> >

> >

> > " So in your meditations, you have to sit down. Now what do you

see in meditation. Try to see all the chakras, what chakras are

catching, face it yourself. These might be from your past life some

chakras are weak, try to make them alright, try to strengthen them.

Because ideals have to be worked out. The instrument has to be

alright, if the instrument is a crazy one how will you do? So first

of all you must develop your instrument properly, it should be

balanced, powerful, not cowardly. People should feel your power. Of

course the

> power is of love, but love doesn't mean that you compromise with

all the nonsensical things. There should be no compromise at all.

It's a very self-certifying state. We cannot say when it is, so we

just cannot say. Itself, the state, will certify that I'm alright

now, I

> have reached that state. You cannot say after five hours three

minutes two seconds you will become that. You just mature and see

that maturity within you.

> >

> > Once you understand, that unless and until you become your

ideals, you are not a Sahaja Yogi. Everybody can call themselves

Sahaja Yogis; there's no inauguration, we don't have any sort of a

inauguration of a university where people can come and get their

> degrees and diplomas, " Alright, you are certified twice born. "

There are some who are several times twice born. They are twice born

today, tomorrow they are not, then again they become twice born, and

again twice born. Some of them can be 108 times twice born, in Sahaja

Yoga. And even then they are not certified. So you have to give

yourself a

> certificate. There is no university to do that. "

> >

> > (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - " Becoming The Ideals " - Diwali Puja

Temple of all faiths,

> Hampstead, London - 6 November, 1983)

> >

> >

> > " Get out of that past life - that past, the myre. That should be

over now. You are quite aware, how with my power of Love, I've

protected you all. You know how, at every moment, I've helped you. At

every point of your desire, I've - come forward to fulfil it.

> That's one side - as I said - the nourishment. But now your ascent

has to come from you. Your rising has to come from you. That has to

be worked out by 'you' - and you alone. Not by any other sahaja yogi

or by me. I can only give you suggestions. Not only the suggestion,

but the warnings. And 'everything' is at hand. It's all worked out so

well. I'm informed. I'm informed before. You don't have to go

anywhere. The whole thing is 'within' yourself. You don't have to

give money, you don't have to give anything. But develop that

> Dedication within yourself.

> >

> > (Shri Mataji - Cowley Manor, England " Complete Dedication The

Only Way " - 31 July,

> 1982)

> >

> >

> > > Dear Violet, Jagbir and Friends,

> > >

> > > There are some questions that I would like to ask about the

> > subject> > of reincarnation.

> > > -What significance and perspective do memories of past lives

have

> > in> > regards to our present life?

> > > -Why do the memories of past lives begin to surface?

> > > -I know that it is the present moment that is important, but to

> > what extent do the qualities and actions of the person that we

were

> > once were affect the person that we are now? Is this how

unfinished

> > karma and destiny fits in?

> > >

> > > Thanks, Semira

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Violet "

> > > <violet.tubb@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >; Dear All,

> > > >

> > > > When the Christian priesthood removed the Doctrine of Re-

> > > incarnation from the Christian Religion, they got themselves and

> > > their followers in an 'awful pickle' regarding the understanding

> > of the Spiritual Teachings that Christ Jesus gave.

> > > >

> > > > Jesus once said to Nicodemus:

> > > >

> > > > " Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and

the

> > > Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is

> > born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit

is

> > > spirit. " (John 3:5)

> > > >

> > > > When Christ Jesus says " unless one is born of water " and in

the

> > > very next sentence, says: " that which is born of the flesh is

> > > flesh " ... it is obvious He was referring to the physical birth

of

> > a human being, prior to which the mother's 'waters break'. The

> > 'water' that Jesus was referring to is " amniotic fluid " . However,

the priestly caste, who took away the Doctrine of Reincarnation [that

> > > Jesus clearly espoused] had to come up with some alternative

> > > explanations. That is why [among other explanations] they 'put

> > > about' that Jesus was referring to the " Rite of Baptism by

Water " .

> > > >

> > > > These Christian priests and ministers, who claim to be

followers

> > > of Jesus, cannot even agree with each other, let alone with what

> > > Christ taught. Yet they expect their followers to have 'blind

> > faith' in them!

> > > >

> > > > Here is just one lengthy excerpt from an article, which shows

> > the confusion generated by this 'passing priestly parade', who

instead of considering that reincarnation exists, are tiptoeing all

around it. They just will not see what is staring them right in the

face:

> > > >

> > > > How Are We Born of Water and the Spirit?

> > > >

> > > > By Basil Overton

> > > >

> > > > " How are we born of water and the Spirit? Jesus said that in

> > order to enter the kingdom of heaven, we must be born of water

and the Spirit (John 3:5).

> > > >

> > > > Being born of water and the Spirit is called by many " the new

> > > birth. " One does not get the new birth, but one is born again or

> > > experiences the new birth by exercising his will in response to

> > the will of God.

> > > >

> > > > Some deny that water in John 3:5 means water. When asked what

it

> > > does mean, these say it means the Spirit. But, this would mean

> > Jesus was saying, " Except a man be born of the Spirit and the

Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. " Obviously, water in John

3:5 does not mean the Spirit.

> > > >

> > > > Others say water in John 3:5 does mean water, but if refers to

> > the water of physical birth, and that born of the Spirit in the

> > passage refers to the spiritual birth or new birth. This is

another

> > obvious error and misunderstanding because this interpretation

would mean Jesus was saying, " Except a man is born the first time and

the second time, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. " Obviously, if

> > one is not born the first time, he cannot enter the kingdom!

> > > >

> > > > Those who say water in John 3:5 refers to the water of the

> > > physical birth make it obvious they are overlooking the question

> > > Nicodemus asked. In John 3:3, it is recorded that Jesus told

> > > Nicodemus, " Except a man be born again, he cannot see the

kingdom

> > of

> > > God. " Nicodemus naturally responded, " How can a man be born when

> > he

> > > is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb and

be

> > > born? "

> > > >

> > > > Jesus answered this question Nicodemus asked by saying that

> > being

> > > born again involves water and the Spirit! Whatever water means

in

> > > John 3:5, we know it is involved in being born again!

> > > >

> > > > Jesus answered the question, " How is one born again? " by

saying

> > > that being born again involved both water and the Spirit! He was

> > not

> > > answering the question, " How is one born the first time? "

Instead,

> > > he was answering the question, " How is one born the second

time? "

> > > And, he said one must be born the second time by being born of

> > water

> > > and the Spirit!

> > > >

> > > > I read the following interesting comment on John 3:5 in one of

> > > Martin Luther's books:

> > > >

> > > > It is true that the word water does often symbolize temptation

> > in

> > > Holy Writ, especially in the Psalms. (Psalms 18:16; 69:1-3.) But

> > > here (John 3:5) it cannot be interpreted that way; for here

Christ

> > > is speaking of baptism, of real and natural water such as a cow

> > may

> > > drink, the baptism about which you hear in the sermons on this

> > > subject. Therefore, the word water does not designate affliction

> > > here; it means real, natural water, which is connected with

God's

> > > word and becomes a very spiritual bath through the Holy Spirit

or

> > > through the entire Trinity. Here Christ also speaks of the Holy

> > > Spirit as present and active, in fact, the entire Holy Trinity

is

> > > there. And thus the person who has been baptized is said to be

> > born

> > > anew. In Titus 3:3 Paul terms baptism " a washing of regeneration

> > and

> > > renewal of the Holy Spirit. " In the last chapter of Mark we read

> > > that " he who believes and is baptized will be saved. " (Mark

> > 16:16.)

> > > And in this passage Christ declares that whoever is not born

anew

> > of

> > > the water and the Holy Spirit cannot come into the kingdom of

God.

> > > Therefore, God's words dare not be tampered with. " (Martin

> > Luther's

> > > Sermons on the Gospel of Saint John, Vol. 22, p. 283.)

> > > http://www.gospelgazette.com/gazette/2001/mar/page17.htm

> > > >

> > > > i find it interesting, that inspite of the fact that the

> > priestly

> > > class edited out Christ Jesus' clear understanding of

> > Reincarnation

> > > [for their own selfish purposes] that they then have the

audacity

> > > though, to tell others that:

> > > >

> > > > " God's words dare not be tampered with " .

> > > >

> > > > Is this not rather hypocritical and laughable at the same

time!

> > Is

> > > it any wonder that Christ warned about them, and said:

> > > >

> > > > " Let them alone; they are blind guides of the blind. And if a

> > > blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a

pit. " (Matthew

> > > 15:14 - NAS)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > There is another instance, where the priestly classes got it

> > wrong

> > > [since they disbanded the Doctrine of Reincarnation]. i am

> > referring

> > > to the occasion in the Bible, where the Holy Spirit shows

Ezekiel

> > > all these 'dry bones' that S/He says will 'come back to life'.

> > This

> > > is actually symbolic of reincarnation.

> > > >

> > > > However, the priestly class [who disbanded the Doctrine of

> > > Reincarnation] will have you believe that these 'dry bones' will

> > > come back to life again, as human beings. According to my

husband

> > > [who is a Registered Nurse - Division I], 'dry bones' have lost

> > all

> > > trace of genetic material [unlike fresh bones], and therefore

dry

> > > bones cannot be used to reproduce a human being, as the priestly

> > > class would have their followers believe.

> > > >

> > > > In any case, why does the Divine have to 're-incarnate' a

person

> > > through genetics, when the Divine has already instituted that

the

> > > mother gives physical birth to the child. This silly concept by

> > the

> > > priestly class [whether they realise it or not] is just a

> > > ridiculous 'pseudo form of re-incarnation' anyway! It is just

> > > amazing the lengths they will go, to avoid the fact of

> > > reincarnation! Yet these priests reincarnate too, whether they

> > > believe in reincarnation or not. That is the real hilarious

thing

> > > about all this, really!

> > > >

> > > > So, all in all, the priestly classes are not too intelligent,

> > when

> > > it comes to the fact of reincarnation. Their alternative

> > > explanations are below par... to say the least. It is small

wonder

> > > then that many followers of Christ are turning away from the

> > > religions surrounding the Incarnation of Christ, and are rather

> > > turning to Christ Himself. One really cannot blame them for

having

> > > lost faith in the priesthood, who themselves do not have, or

know,

> > > the answers.

> > > >

> > > > This is because Knowledge of the Divine, is not an

intellectual

> > > external pursuit, but it is an inner spiritual pursuit, which is

> > > what 'gnosticism' really is, and with this inner knowledge,

> > > the 'inner' and the 'outer' agree and complement each other.

There

> > > are no conflicts. The Absolute Truth will be seen and known!

> > > >

> > > > Here then, is the Vision that the Holy Spirit gave to Ezekiel,

> > and

> > > it is a Vision, which symbolizes and indicates that all the

> > > Spiritual Seekers of the Truth of all 'past times', would re-

> > > incarnate at this special time of the Last Judgment and

> > > Resurrection, when the Holy Spirit would be 'poured out upon all

> > > flesh' [in other words, 'En-Masse' Spiritual Transformation]:

> > > >

> > > > " The hand of the Lord was upon me [Ezekiel] and He brought me

> > out

> > > by the Spirit of the Lord and set me down in the middle of the

> > > valley; and it was full of bones. And S/He caused me to pass

among

> > > them round about, and behold, there were very many on the

surface

> > of

> > > the valley; and lo, they were very dry. And S/He said to me,

" Son

> > of

> > > man, can these bones live? " And I answered, " O Lord God, Thou

> > > knowest. " Again S/He said to me, " Prophesy over these bones, and

> > say

> > > to them, `O dry bones, hear the word of the Lord.' " Thus says

the

> > > Lord God to these bones, `Behold, I will cause breath to enter

you

> > > that you may come to life. And I will put sinews on you, make

> > flesh

> > > grow back on you, over you with skin, and put breath in you that

> > you

> > > may come alive; and you will know that I am the Lord' " So I

> > > (Ezekiel) prophesied as I was commanded; and as I prophesied,

> > there

> > > was a noise and behold, a rattling; and the bones came together,

> > > bone to its bone. And I looked, and behold, sinews were on them,

> > and

> > > flesh grew, and skin covered them; but there was no breath in

> > them.

> > > Then S/He said to me, " Prophesy to the breath, prophesy, son of

> > man,

> > > and say to the breath, " Thus says the Lord God, " Come from the

> > four

> > > winds, O breath, and breathe on these slain, that they come to

> > > life. " ' " So I prophesied as S/He commanded me, and the breath

came

> > > into them, and they came to life, and stood on their feet, an

> > > exceedingly great army. (Ezekiel 37:1-10)

> > > >

> > > > THE VISION EXPLAINED: - Then S/He said to me, " Son of man,

these

> > > bones are the whole house of Israel [Children of God]; behold,

> > they

> > > say, `Our bones are dried up, and our hope has perished. We are

> > > completely cut off.' " Therefore prophesy, and say to them, `Thus

> > > says the Lord God, " Behold, I will open your graves [allow

passage

> > > from death unto life] My people; and I will bring you into the

> > land

> > > of Israel [into the Kingdom of God Within]. " Then you will know

> > that

> > > I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves [enabled you to

have

> > > your Resurrection] and caused you to come up out of your graves

> > > [Resurrected you], My people. (Ezekiel 37:11-13)

> > > >

> > > > The Vision of Ezekiel as given by the Holy Spirit, is a clear

> > > reference to reincarnation. What Ezekiel prophesied [as given by

> > the

> > > Holy Spirit/Shekinah] is now happening. The people who used to

own

> > > those dry bones, are being re-incarnated, not by growing flesh

on

> > > old dry bones that have become dust, but through physical [ " born

> > of

> > > the water " ] birth. According to Shri Mataji, all the great

seekers

> > > of past times have re-incarnated now [in other words, have

> > > been " born of water " again] in order to be " born of the Spirit "

> > > [a.k.a. Second Birth of the Spirit, Self-Realisation, Moksha,

> > > Kundalini Awakening).

> > > >

> > > > violet

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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