Warning to all members about Furat and his guru Ishmael Abraham!

[Guest guest]

, " Violet "

<violet.tubb wrote:

>

>

> " But i simply do not agree with the two of you "

>

> [That is okay. Nobody forces you to agree, Furat. It might help, if

> you simply state what it is that you do not agree about, and which

> obviously bothers you. Maybe, we can come to some mutual

> understanding, if we communicate about it.]

>

>

> " that man has simply too much spare time on his hands:

>

> [i have to tell you, that i find it insulting, that you will call

> my brother Jagbir, as 'that man', as if you dislike him so

> extremely, that you cannot even mention Jagbir by his own name. Why

> do you dislike a 'man of God' that does his utmost for Shri Mataji,

> the Adi Shakti? Jagbir, in fact, works 'day and night' to get Her

> Message out. Perhaps, you are not so busy. The Time of this Last

> Judgment and Resurrection is much better spent, in helping and

> supporting people like Jagbir, in getting Her Message out, rather

> than in criticism.]

>

>

 

Dear Violet et al,

 

Thanks for giving Furat a piece of your mind that brought peace to my

mind. Just want to update you on this mental case:

 

i) he worships Ishmael Abraham as the incarnation of Shri Kalki. For

the past few years he swears that Ishmael is Shri Kalki and defends

him at all times. Last year his guru Ishmael made a public claim to

have come down from heaven as he is the Chastizer. This was his

warning and reaction to Avnish who had told him that only a mad man

can claim himslef to be Shri Kalki:

 

http://www.adishakti.org/forum/ishmael_is_god.pdf

 

ii) Ever since i exposed Ishmael as a charlatan who claims to have

had sex with Shri Mataji Furat has been incensed. Every now and then

he just lets off steam to cool his anger by attacking me;

 

iii) Furat recruits unsuspecting members on Ishmael's behalf. Some

members reading this forum have had some very unpleasant memories of

Ishmael exploiting them;

 

iv) Furat once sent me a map of Scandinavia pinpointing the location

of the Holy Grail. And who else made that discovery other than his

guru Ishmael Abraham aka. Shri Kalki the Chastizer?

 

Furat believes Ishmael's sexual tryst with Shri Mataji was Her favour

to a favorite son! In other words, he is just as aroused by Ishmael's

mother-son sexual relationship. i regard this as the worst blasphemy

against the Holy Spirit. Now Furat has the audacity to claim to be

able to talk to Her in meditation, just as Ishmael ........... and

expects us to believe what Shri Mataji tells them!!!

 

i think all this will be sufficient warning to members not to get

involved with Furat and his guru Ishmael. We have crackpots but these

duo are fractured beyond repair.

 

regards to all,

 

jagbir

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagbir,

I think that it is best not to be judgemental and condemning of the

spiritual experiences of others.

Love, Semira

 

 

 

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

>

> , " Violet "

> <violet.tubb@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > " But i simply do not agree with the two of you "

> >

> > [That is okay. Nobody forces you to agree, Furat. It might help,

if

> > you simply state what it is that you do not agree about, and

which

> > obviously bothers you. Maybe, we can come to some mutual

> > understanding, if we communicate about it.]

> >

> >

> > " that man has simply too much spare time on his hands:

> >

> > [i have to tell you, that i find it insulting, that you will call

> > my brother Jagbir, as 'that man', as if you dislike him so

> > extremely, that you cannot even mention Jagbir by his own name.

Why

> > do you dislike a 'man of God' that does his utmost for Shri

Mataji,

> > the Adi Shakti? Jagbir, in fact, works 'day and night' to get Her

> > Message out. Perhaps, you are not so busy. The Time of this Last

> > Judgment and Resurrection is much better spent, in helping and

> > supporting people like Jagbir, in getting Her Message out, rather

> > than in criticism.]

> >

> >

>

> Dear Violet et al,

>

> Thanks for giving Furat a piece of your mind that brought peace to

my

> mind. Just want to update you on this mental case:

>

> i) he worships Ishmael Abraham as the incarnation of Shri Kalki.

For

> the past few years he swears that Ishmael is Shri Kalki and defends

> him at all times. Last year his guru Ishmael made a public claim to

> have come down from heaven as he is the Chastizer. This was his

> warning and reaction to Avnish who had told him that only a mad man

> can claim himslef to be Shri Kalki:

>

> http://www.adishakti.org/forum/ishmael_is_god.pdf

>

> ii) Ever since i exposed Ishmael as a charlatan who claims to have

> had sex with Shri Mataji Furat has been incensed. Every now and

then

> he just lets off steam to cool his anger by attacking me;

>

> iii) Furat recruits unsuspecting members on Ishmael's behalf. Some

> members reading this forum have had some very unpleasant memories

of

> Ishmael exploiting them;

>

> iv) Furat once sent me a map of Scandinavia pinpointing the

location

> of the Holy Grail. And who else made that discovery other than his

> guru Ishmael Abraham aka. Shri Kalki the Chastizer?

>

> Furat believes Ishmael's sexual tryst with Shri Mataji was Her

favour

> to a favorite son! In other words, he is just as aroused by

Ishmael's

> mother-son sexual relationship. i regard this as the worst

blasphemy

> against the Holy Spirit. Now Furat has the audacity to claim to be

> able to talk to Her in meditation, just as Ishmael ........... and

> expects us to believe what Shri Mataji tells them!!!

>

> i think all this will be sufficient warning to members not to get

> involved with Furat and his guru Ishmael. We have crackpots but

these

> duo are fractured beyond repair.

>

> regards to all,

>

> jagbir

>

[Guest guest]

, " caraleen98 "

<caraleen98 wrote:

>

> Dear Jagbir,

> I think that it is best not to be judgemental and condemning of the

> spiritual experiences of others.

> Love, Semira

>

 

i will always stand by what i have written, and call a spade a spade.

 

jagbir