50,000 people got their enlightenment! ... that's a world record!!!

[Guest guest]

Self-Realization in Turkey

Wednesday, April 04, 2007

 

As we learnt that our Divine Mother had appointed Turkey one of the

hosting countries for the upcoming Birthday Puja, we thought how we

could express our gratitude to Shri Mataji for this great gift. The

only way we can make our Mother happy is to give realization.

 

So, for one month all the yogis were going out every day to the

streets, fairs, universities, public programs. As a result, more that

50 thousand people got their enlightenment!

 

On the day of Shivaratri Puja a card was offered to H.H. Shri Mataji:

 

With Your greatest blessings,

upon hearing of hosting this most auspicious celebration of Your

Birthday,

we can only present to Your Divine Lotus Charan,

the offering of 50,000 realizations.

With all our humble love,

we thank You from our hearts

for this most auspicious blessing

bestowed upon us,

 

Your children of Turkey

 

 

Jai Shri Mataji

 

http://www.sahajayoga.org/swan/view/swan_599_2007.asp

 

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Maybe what they meant to say is that " 50 thousand people got their

enlightenment of the subtle system " ..... which still is very loud

and a world record. No one can get enlightened in a few minutes by

just being given self-realization. It takes years to be enlightened,

as has been my personal experience, and that is only about 2% at

best. Shri Buddha took years too. How on earth did 50,000 achieve

that in a few minutes? If this is the case, as hailed by Turkish SYs,

then we must and should have a few million enlightened souls by now

meditating on the Adi Shakti. But where are all of them? Why are SY

collectives so severely starved of new seekers for decades? Why do we

never see the hundreds of thousands of those yearly given self-

realization ever return? Why do so-called 'self-realized' souls

rejoice in false claims and advertising? Even 500,000 people getting

their enlightenment in future will mean nothing if most never return.

 

empty vessels make the most noise,

 

jagbir

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagbir,

The Turkish yogis are lovely, humble and open-hearted people.

It doesn't matter how many people begin to attend collectives or

not....it matters that the seeds of enlightenment have been sown.

Love, Semira

 

 

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

>

> Self-Realization in Turkey

> Wednesday, April 04, 2007

>

> As we learnt that our Divine Mother had appointed Turkey one of the

> hosting countries for the upcoming Birthday Puja, we thought how we

> could express our gratitude to Shri Mataji for this great gift. The

> only way we can make our Mother happy is to give realization.

>

> So, for one month all the yogis were going out every day to the

> streets, fairs, universities, public programs. As a result, more

that

> 50 thousand people got their enlightenment!

>

> On the day of Shivaratri Puja a card was offered to H.H. Shri

Mataji:

>

> With Your greatest blessings,

> upon hearing of hosting this most auspicious celebration of Your

> Birthday,

> we can only present to Your Divine Lotus Charan,

> the offering of 50,000 realizations.

> With all our humble love,

> we thank You from our hearts

> for this most auspicious blessing

> bestowed upon us,

>

> Your children of Turkey

>

>

> Jai Shri Mataji

>

> http://www.sahajayoga.org/swan/view/swan_599_2007.asp

>

> --------------------

>

> Maybe what they meant to say is that " 50 thousand people got their

> enlightenment of the subtle system " ..... which still is very loud

> and a world record. No one can get enlightened in a few minutes by

> just being given self-realization. It takes years to be

enlightened,

> as has been my personal experience, and that is only about 2% at

> best. Shri Buddha took years too. How on earth did 50,000 achieve

> that in a few minutes? If this is the case, as hailed by Turkish

SYs,

> then we must and should have a few million enlightened souls by now

> meditating on the Adi Shakti. But where are all of them? Why are SY

> collectives so severely starved of new seekers for decades? Why do

we

> never see the hundreds of thousands of those yearly given self-

> realization ever return? Why do so-called 'self-realized' souls

> rejoice in false claims and advertising? Even 500,000 people

getting

> their enlightenment in future will mean nothing if most never

return.

>

> empty vessels make the most noise,

>

> jagbir

>

[Guest guest]

, " caraleen98 "

<caraleen98 wrote:

>

>

> Dear Jagbir,

> The Turkish yogis are lovely, humble and open-hearted people.

> It doesn't matter how many people begin to attend collectives or

> not....it matters that the seeds of enlightenment have been sown.

> Love, Semira

>

>

 

i will never doubt nor dispute that they are just that. All i am

asking is that the truth be told openly, just as Shri Mataji told SYs

on Easter, after a 5-year silence:

 

" Shri Mataji began by saying that it is a very important day, the day

of Christ resurrection, He resurrected so that he could transform

people but now we can do that work and we should not be afraid, and

have no doubts about yourself and your self realisation, you should

respect your self realisation it is something very special, something

unique....

 

Shri Mataji said you should all go out and take a lead, spread Sahaja

Yoga so we can give a chance to other people who have not received

their self realisation, there is nothing more important to do, there

are many good people in the world who have not received their self

realisation and if you see around the world is in chaos, there is a

lot of chaos, the world needs this. "

 

As i said, even giving 500,000 people self-realization will not mean

anything as long as SYs are afraid to tell them that it is related to

the Resurrection. You said that " it matters that the seeds of

enlightenment have been sown. " Maybe telling the truth does not

matter to you any more. But it is all that really matters my dear,

especially now since being " lovely, humble and open-hearted people "

has not helped. Maybe telling the truth will help at last sprout the

the stubbornly dormant seeds of enlightenment that have been planted

by SYs in the last three decades. You should also realize that it will

take decades for the dormant seed of enlightenment to sprout, become

a tree and bear fruit. That is why claiming 50,000 people got their

enlightenment in a few minutes is loud and false advertisment. Maybe

i have set the bar too high. Should i lower it so that all 50,000 may

easily hop, step or jump over it Semira?

 

regards,

 

 

jagbir