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Dear devotees of the Primordial Mother,

 

Namaskaar - i bow to the Holy Spirit who resides in you.

 

Today is a great day, at least for me personally. Today is Tuesday.

Wonderful news and special events always seem to happen on Tuesdays,

the day homage is paid to Shri Ganesha.

 

i received an email from an disillusioned anti-SY who had left the

organization a long time ago, probably in the 1980s. i know this

person from the anti-SY forum where he was a prominent member and

founding father. But i always felt that he had a good heart despite

his anti-SY stance (and thus always treated him with respect). Today

my faith in him has come a full circle - i feel peace.

 

Today Xxxxxx, despite having left the SY organization for decades,

has again started giving self-realization and telling people directly

who Shri Mataji really is. This is indeed a far cry from WCASY and

the SY leadership that have for decades always muffled such attempts.

Till today their reasons remain unknown and unfathomable.

 

i know his email will galvanize us to declare and spread the truth.

It is not easy for an anti/ex-SY to return and do Her work. But She

has said that Her Divine Message will be carried out by those outside

the SY organization, and this great soul is definitely one of them.

99.99% of those who have received self-realization have left and

remain outside the organization - some of these outsiders will help

Shri Mataji spread the Resurrection Message. The future trend will

definitely remain the same, and we will make sure of that. This email

holds the potential of many of these seekers returning, provided we

tell the truth. Those willing to do so have far more potential,

individually, than entire SY collectives combined, provided they are

given absolute freedom to be their own masters. Such a state of mind

can never be attained from within the organization, far from it - it

can only be realized from within where She resides as your own Self!

 

i assure Xxxxxx that over time more and more outsiders will join us.

We will continue to work from the outside and in defiance of WCASY

and their SY organization. i again reiterate that i will not budge an

inch or betray the faith and confidence of any self-realized soul who

wishes to join the Great Primordial Mother and declare Her Divine

Message to humanity. By being our own masters, under no circumstance

whatsoever will we empower WCASY and the SY leadership. i thank the

Great Devi for creating the circumstances that compelled me to leave

the SY organization, and continue my sacred duty to Her unhindered. i

thank Her too for slowly gathering the great souls destined to openly

declare these most blessed days - God Almighty's Last Judgment and

Resurrection - to all humanity. This world in chaos must know about

the Blossom Time no matter what it takes to accomplish the task.

 

My pranaam to this great soul – Xxxxxxx, you have performed a great

duty and service to the Adi Shakti and Her Cause with this email, an

email that will collectively motivate and strengthen us. She will

never forget this gesture for all eternity. You have my word. Thanks.

 

regards to all,

 

jagbir

 

 

 

-------------------------

(i have taken the liberty to correct some spelling errors)

 

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:15:10 -0000

Xxxxxxxx

adishakti_org

Hello Jagbir

 

Dear Jagbir,

 

Why is the new world foundation website have to have password

username this stinks?

 

What is revolting is more than many of mothers tapes videos have

been edited modified mother scolding telling of certain leaders

and certain statements removed modified.

 

Have to admit iv'e seen far more drive passion from your website than

30 years of sy sniggering mismanagement.

 

If sy was a company the WHOLE management would be been fired way back.

Why is it seems like everything else is in media news etc all the time

but sy cant get but a word anywhere in the media yes jagbir the

leaders dont want the world to know, the sy leaders are just a pack

of ARROGANT PRICKS.

 

The new world foundation website is trashy terrible feel look to it

again i'll admit where credit is due your sites that you set up

largely by yourself run rings around the so called official sites by

a long, long mile.

 

When me was in sy organistion had idea of having matajis photo and

little bit info screen on all the major picture theaters before and

intermission as 30 second or so clip would not cost so much and tm

and hara krishna sometimes have ads so why not sy has people all

have there hands on the seat armrests pointed forward - when my sy

leader back then heard of this he was angry furious, back then i

came to realise these sy leaders were just assholes.

 

You know me feel so sorry for the way sy going me as ex syogi have

been giving realisation to people here and there cause me realise that

they like billions of others they would never know, ive even told

them straight mataji holy ghost all were pleased happy for being up

front and honest and puzzled why they heard nothing anywhere.

 

Jagbir this so called sy organisation just a stinking rotting corpse,

what's needed a fresh start. sahaja yoga organic.

 

regards

 

Xxxxxxxxx

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, " jagbir

singh " <adishakti_org wrote:

>

> Dear devotees of the Primordial Mother,

>

> Namaskaar - i bow to the Holy Spirit who resides in you.

>

> Today is a great day, at least for me personally. Today is Tuesday.

> Wonderful news and special events always seem to happen on Tuesdays,

> the day homage is paid to Shri Ganesha.

>

> i received an email from an disillusioned anti-SY who had left the

> organization a long time ago, probably in the 1980s. i know this

> person from the anti-SY forum where he was a prominent member and

> founding father. But i always felt that he had a good heart despite

> his anti-SY stance (and thus always treated him with respect). Today

> my faith in him has come a full circle - i feel peace.

>

> Today Xxxxxx, despite having left the SY organization for decades,

> has again started giving self-realization and telling people

directly

> who Shri Mataji really is. This is indeed a far cry from WCASY and

> the SY leadership that have for decades always muffled such

attempts.

> Till today their reasons remain unknown and unfathomable.

>

> i know his email will galvanize us to declare and spread the truth.

> It is not easy for an anti/ex-SY to return and do Her work. But She

> has said that Her Divine Message will be carried out by those

outside

> the SY organization, and this great soul is definitely one of them.

> 99.99% of those who have received self-realization have left and

> remain outside the organization - some of these outsiders will help

> Shri Mataji spread the Resurrection Message. The future trend will

> definitely remain the same, and we will make sure of that. This

email

> holds the potential of many of these seekers returning, provided we

> tell the truth. Those willing to do so have far more potential,

> individually, than entire SY collectives combined, provided they are

> given absolute freedom to be their own masters. Such a state of mind

> can never be attained from within the organization, far from it - it

> can only be realized from within where She resides as your own Self!

>

> i assure Xxxxxx that over time more and more outsiders will join us.

> We will continue to work from the outside and in defiance of WCASY

> and their SY organization. i again reiterate that i will not budge

an

> inch or betray the faith and confidence of any self-realized soul

who

> wishes to join the Great Primordial Mother and declare Her Divine

> Message to humanity. By being our own masters, under no circumstance

> whatsoever will we empower WCASY and the SY leadership. i thank the

> Great Devi for creating the circumstances that compelled me to leave

> the SY organization, and continue my sacred duty to Her unhindered.

i

> thank Her too for slowly gathering the great souls destined to

openly

> declare these most blessed days - God Almighty's Last Judgment and

> Resurrection - to all humanity. This world in chaos must know about

> the Blossom Time no matter what it takes to accomplish the task.

>

> My pranaam to this great soul – Xxxxxxx, you have performed a great

> duty and service to the Adi Shakti and Her Cause with this email, an

> email that will collectively motivate and strengthen us. She will

> never forget this gesture for all eternity. You have my word.

Thanks.

>

> regards to all,

>

> jagbir

>

>

>

> -------------------------

> (i have taken the liberty to correct some spelling errors)

>

> Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:15:10 -0000

> Xxxxxxxx

> adishakti_org

> Hello Jagbir

>

> Dear Jagbir,

>

> Why is the new world foundation website have to have password

> username this stinks?

 

>

> What is revolting is more than many of mothers tapes videos have

> been edited modified mother scolding telling of certain leaders

> and certain statements removed modified.

>

> Have to admit iv'e seen far more drive passion from your website

than

> 30 years of sy sniggering mismanagement.

>

> If sy was a company the WHOLE management would be been fired way

back.

> Why is it seems like everything else is in media news etc all the

time

> but sy cant get but a word anywhere in the media yes jagbir the

> leaders dont want the world to know, the sy leaders are just a pack

> of ARROGANT PRICKS.

>

> The new world foundation website is trashy terrible feel look to it

> again i'll admit where credit is due your sites that you set up

> largely by yourself run rings around the so called official sites by

> a long, long mile.

>

> When me was in sy organistion had idea of having matajis photo and

> little bit info screen on all the major picture theaters before and

> intermission as 30 second or so clip would not cost so much and tm

> and hara krishna sometimes have ads so why not sy has people all

> have there hands on the seat armrests pointed forward - when my sy

> leader back then heard of this he was angry furious, back then i

> came to realise these sy leaders were just assholes.

>

> You know me feel so sorry for the way sy going me as ex syogi have

> been giving realisation to people here and there cause me realise

that

> they like billions of others they would never know, ive even told

> them straight mataji holy ghost all were pleased happy for being up

> front and honest and puzzled why they heard nothing anywhere.

>

> Jagbir this so called sy organisation just a stinking rotting

corpse,

> what's needed a fresh start. sahaja yoga organic.

>

> regards

>

> Xxxxxxxxx

 

 

Dear Xxxxxxxx and All,

 

i agree with Jagbir; 'Our Mother' will be rejoicing over one child that has

returned to Her, as compared with all Her children, who are already with Her. i

would therefore like to welcome you as our 'long lost SY brother' to our

Worldwide Sahaj Organism, that is giving Her Identity and Resurrection Message

to the world, from outside the Organisation of SY, just like Shri Mataji

predicted would happen, if the SY Organisation, did not do that task. Shri

Mataji said that at Sydney Airport in 1994, which is 13 years ago, and 'true to

Her prediction' Her Message is now being given by the Organism of Sahaj (Her

Devotees/Bhaktas) from outside of the Organisation of Sahaja Yoga.

 

i am sure, if it were not for such 'horrible leaders' that we seem to have

accumulated in the SY Organisation, that many SYs would have had the courage by

now, to openly announce Her Identity and Message. Of course, 'leadership' in SY

was more or less 'open for grabs' and just about anybody who was reasonable

'able' could become a leader. As far as their 'spiritual credentials' was

concerned, that still had to be tested, just like Shri Mataji always said that

" It is a Test to be a Leader " . Truer words never spoken! Actually, i would like

to know who the 'good leaders' were? There must have been some 'surely'?! Maybe,

somebody can mention some good leaders and 'why' they were good. We often put

down the Sahaj Leaders, because of very valid reasons, but i want to make this

point: We (including myself) are not against great leadership. There is nothing

better than great leadership, who enable everyone to become great gurus,

teachers, and masters of themselves, instead of them wanting to be everyone's

gurus, teachers, and masters. That is the difference between good leadership and

poor leadership skills.

 

Btw. your idea for the promo at the movies was very good. i vaguely remember

such an idea floating around SY in Australia too, but nothing came of it. It's

unbelievable that a 'leader' would actually become 'angry' when you gave a great

idea?!?! Well, you are free of that craziness now; we are not like that, but

support great ideas, even if it is only possible 'spiritually' and

'emotionally'. You can also expect, that your fellow brothers and sisters in the

Organism, won't expect you to 'stick like glue' to them. We encourage spiritual

freedom and spiritual creativity to be Her Ganas, Devotees, Bhaktas, Messengers

(whichever word you prefer).... and of course, being our own 'masters' or

'teachers' or 'gurus' (whichever term you prefer) is

very important, and we try to 'cultivate' and 'encourage that' in every SY.

There is nothing more rewarding than to see SYs become their own masters. That

is the reward of 'real leadership'.

 

i think you will agree that 'earlier on' SYs (and i include myself) thought that

the leadership had Shri Mataji's 'best interests' at heart. But now we know they

don't, but mainly have their 'own best interests' at heart. That is why they

have lost our support, because we are not 'spiritually dumb'. We know that great

spiritual leaders try to 'free people up' and not try to 'enslave' them as WCASY

and SY leadership have been doing, who are treating SYs like they are 'babies'

who still need the 'milk forumula'! (i can't resist this one; please don't be

offended anyone!).... " but then they put the dummy (soother) into the babies

mouths, and make them keep quiet and hopefully go to sleep " !

 

Well, they didn't succeed with us, did they! We don't like the 'milk formula'

anymore; we like the meat!!! And we 'spit out' all dummies ('soothers') and

squeal really loudly, that it hurts the ears to hear all that squealing and

screaming. 'We babies' are going to be heard 'at all costs'! The whole world is

going to hear from us, about the 'Meat of the Word' and not the 'milk of the

word', just because it is Time Now.

 

Xxxxxxxx, you mentioned about the editing of the tapes and videos. i know that

the tapes and videos are being 'tidied up'. i did not know this would include

removing of 'non-leadership-friendly' Words from Shri Mataji. Like Christ Jesus,

Shri Mataji similarly railed against such leaders, and 'quite often too' and

'leaders' heads went a'rollin' off the stage of Sahaja Yoga, 'left', 'right' and

'centre'. Their excuse to edit this out, will be that the tapes and videos need

to be 'fit for consumption' for the general public and for SYs who are supposed

to 'revere them' instead of devoting themselves to Shri Mataji. When Shri Mataji

'spoke against leaders' this was not pleasing to the 'leadership

sensibilities'..... poor little darlings! It is just too much for them, to keep

it on the tapes and videos. They can't have folks knowing about this aspect of

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, which could ruin their 'careers'.

 

However, the resistance against these 'horrible leaders' is growing. Yes, the

Organism will rise out of the 'ashes' of the Organisation, like the Phoenix, and

is already doing so. There is no way to stop an Evolutionary Organism. We know

that She is 'with us', 'within us' and leading Her Devotees and Her

Messengers.... forward.

 

with love and best wishes,

 

violet

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, " jagbir

singh " <adishakti_org wrote:

 

i know his email will galvanize us to declare and spread the truth.

It is not easy for an anti/ex-SY to return and do Her work. But She

has said that Her Divine Message will be carried out by those outside

the SY organization, and this great soul is definitely one of them.

99.99% of those who have received self-realization have left and

remain outside the organization - some of these outsiders will help

Shri Mataji spread the Resurrection Message. The future trend will

definitely remain the same, and we will make sure of that. This email

holds the potential of many of these seekers returning, provided we

tell the truth. Those willing to do so have far more potential,

individually, than entire SY collectives combined, provided they are

given absolute freedom to be their own masters. Such a state of mind

can never be attained from within the organization, far from it - it

can only be realized from within where She resides as your own Self!

 

 

Dear Jagbir and All,

 

What you say in the above quote, is profound. i am referring to the 99.99% of

those who have received their self-realisation, but who have left (for whatever

reason). i also believe that many of these, once they understand Her

Resurrection Message, will come back and help Shri Mataji spread the

Resurrection Message. i agree that the email from Xxxxxxxx will hold the

'potential of many of these seekers returning, provided we tell the truth'. i

also agree that those willing to do so, have far more potential 'individually'

than entire collectives combined who are 'stuck together like glue', provided

they are given the 'absolute freedom to be their own masters. i also agree that

'such a state of mind can never be attained from within the organisation, far

from it - as it can only be realised from within where She resides ae your own

Self!!!

 

Thanks for your Vision and Insight,

 

violet

 

 

 

> Dear devotees of the Primordial Mother,

>

> Namaskaar - i bow to the Holy Spirit who resides in you.

>

> Today is a great day, at least for me personally. Today is Tuesday.

> Wonderful news and special events always seem to happen on Tuesdays,

> the day homage is paid to Shri Ganesha.

>

> i received an email from an disillusioned anti-SY who had left the

> organization a long time ago, probably in the 1980s. i know this

> person from the anti-SY forum where he was a prominent member and

> founding father. But i always felt that he had a good heart despite

> his anti-SY stance (and thus always treated him with respect). Today

> my faith in him has come a full circle - i feel peace.

>

> Today Xxxxxx, despite having left the SY organization for decades,

> has again started giving self-realization and telling people

directly

> who Shri Mataji really is. This is indeed a far cry from WCASY and

> the SY leadership that have for decades always muffled such

attempts.

> Till today their reasons remain unknown and unfathomable.

>

> i know his email will galvanize us to declare and spread the truth.

> It is not easy for an anti/ex-SY to return and do Her work. But She

> has said that Her Divine Message will be carried out by those

outside

> the SY organization, and this great soul is definitely one of them.

> 99.99% of those who have received self-realization have left and

> remain outside the organization - some of these outsiders will help

> Shri Mataji spread the Resurrection Message. The future trend will

> definitely remain the same, and we will make sure of that. This

email

> holds the potential of many of these seekers returning, provided we

> tell the truth. Those willing to do so have far more potential,

> individually, than entire SY collectives combined, provided they are

> given absolute freedom to be their own masters. Such a state of mind

> can never be attained from within the organization, far from it - it

> can only be realized from within where She resides as your own Self!

>

> i assure Xxxxxx that over time more and more outsiders will join us.

> We will continue to work from the outside and in defiance of WCASY

> and their SY organization. i again reiterate that i will not budge

an

> inch or betray the faith and confidence of any self-realized soul

who

> wishes to join the Great Primordial Mother and declare Her Divine

> Message to humanity. By being our own masters, under no circumstance

> whatsoever will we empower WCASY and the SY leadership. i thank the

> Great Devi for creating the circumstances that compelled me to leave

> the SY organization, and continue my sacred duty to Her unhindered.

i

> thank Her too for slowly gathering the great souls destined to

openly

> declare these most blessed days - God Almighty's Last Judgment and

> Resurrection - to all humanity. This world in chaos must know about

> the Blossom Time no matter what it takes to accomplish the task.

>

> My pranaam to this great soul – Xxxxxxx, you have performed a great

> duty and service to the Adi Shakti and Her Cause with this email, an

> email that will collectively motivate and strengthen us. She will

> never forget this gesture for all eternity. You have my word.

Thanks.

>

> regards to all,

>

> jagbir

>

>

>

> -------------------------

> (i have taken the liberty to correct some spelling errors)

>

> Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:15:10 -0000

> Xxxxxxxx

> adishakti_org

> Hello Jagbir

>

> Dear Jagbir,

>

> Why is the new world foundation website have to have password

> username this stinks?

>

> What is revolting is more than many of mothers tapes videos have

> been edited modified mother scolding telling of certain leaders

> and certain statements removed modified.

>

> Have to admit iv'e seen far more drive passion from your website

than

> 30 years of sy sniggering mismanagement.

>

> If sy was a company the WHOLE management would be been fired way

back.

> Why is it seems like everything else is in media news etc all the

time

> but sy cant get but a word anywhere in the media yes jagbir the

> leaders dont want the world to know, the sy leaders are just a pack

> of ARROGANT PRICKS.

>

> The new world foundation website is trashy terrible feel look to it

> again i'll admit where credit is due your sites that you set up

> largely by yourself run rings around the so called official sites by

> a long, long mile.

>

> When me was in sy organistion had idea of having matajis photo and

> little bit info screen on all the major picture theaters before and

> intermission as 30 second or so clip would not cost so much and tm

> and hara krishna sometimes have ads so why not sy has people all

> have there hands on the seat armrests pointed forward - when my sy

> leader back then heard of this he was angry furious, back then i

> came to realise these sy leaders were just assholes.

>

> You know me feel so sorry for the way sy going me as ex syogi have

> been giving realisation to people here and there cause me realise

that

> they like billions of others they would never know, ive even told

> them straight mataji holy ghost all were pleased happy for being up

> front and honest and puzzled why they heard nothing anywhere.

>

> Jagbir this so called sy organisation just a stinking rotting

corpse,

> what's needed a fresh start. sahaja yoga organic.

>

> regards

>

> Xxxxxxxxx

>

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