The Holy Spirit (the Mother) is assigned equal status with the Father & Son

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The Holy Spirit (the Mother) is assigned equal status with the Father

and the Son

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi has revealed that Christ Jesus did not wish to reveal

who His Mother was at His Time, as He wanted to protect Her from physical danger

at a time when crucifixions were happening…. And it was not Her Time yet; it was

His Time to do the spiritual work at the Narrow Gate of Agnya, before His Mother

the Holy Spirit, could do Her work at this Time at the Kingdom of God Within of

Sahasrara. That is why He would talk about His Mother, as the Holy Spirit,

instead of revealing Her. Now it can be revealed that when Christ is talking

about the Holy Spirit, He is talking about His Mother. In other words, His

Mother, was not just " His " Mother. She is " The Mother of All That Is " ! According

to Shri Mataji, this is implicit in Christ's saying of " Behold the Mother " ,

though Christ's " meaning " was not clearly understood at that Time, but it can be

understood now, when the Mother will not be crucified, by declaring who She is.

Here is what Shri Mataji says regarding Christ's statement, on the cross:

 

" He [Christ Jesus] was the greatest Sahaja Yogi, but He had so many powers,

which are difficult for human beings to have [including] His sacrifices, His

adjustments and the acceptance of whatever was told to Him. He accepted [it

all]. [There is] His love for His Mother, and on the cross He said: Behold the

Mother. He just said: " Behold the Mother " . (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi – Christmas

Puja - Ganapatipule, India – 27 December, 1994)

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi explains that His Mother was the power behind Christ

Jesus:

 

" So coming to His Mother, She was the power behind Him [behind Christ Jesus].

She was Mahalakshmi. The people who follow the Mahalakshmi principle are beyond

the material understanding of life, beyond the Lakshmi principle " . (Shri

Mataji's Puja Address - Pune, India – 25 December 1987)

 

There we have it! His Mother is the power behind Christ Jesus, which is why He

also said on the cross: " Behold the Mother! "

 

It is " the Mother " , the Holy Spirit, who is the power behind Christ Jesus and

who reveals all the things of the Spirit, which eye has not seen and ear has not

heard and which has not entered the heart of man, what God has prepared for

those who love Him:

 

" Things which eye has not seen and ear has not heard, and which have not entered

the heart of man, all that, God has prepared for those who love Him. For to us,

God revealed them through the Spirit [God the Mother] for the Spirit searches

all things, even the depths of God. " (I Corinthians 2:9-10)

 

In the following verse, God the Mother's fellowship is assigned equal status

with God the Father's love and with God the Son's grace:

 

" The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ [the Son], and the love of God [the Father]

and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit [the Mother] be with you all. " (2

Corinthians 13:14)

 

The equal status between All Three is also seen in this verse, where Christ

Jesus asks his disciples to baptise people in the Name of All Three:

 

" Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name

of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit [the Mother]. " (Christ Jesus -

Matthew 28:19)

 

Shri Mataji states that Christ Jesus is very protective of the Adi Shakti [His

Mother] and explains His Role in working everything out:

 

" He [Christ Jesus] said that anything against Me I'll tolerate, but nothing

against the Holy Ghost. This Holy Ghost is the Adi Shakti [Primordial power of

God the Mother]. Without Him [Christ Jesus] you cannot go to the Sahasrara

[Kingdom of God Within]. He's the one who is the conductor, the one who moves

the strings in a puppet show. And so it is very important to pray to Shri

Ganesha every time we have Puja [Worship]. We have to pray to Him and that's how

we are praying to Lord Jesus Christ. Every time. Without His auspiciousness,

without His help, we cannot do [the work of] Sahaja Yoga. He's the manager. You

see I'm sitting here and He's the manager. Supposing there's no management? How

will I speak here? Nothing can happen. But He is so efficient, yet you never see

Him working everything [out]……….doing everything!!! (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

– Christmas Puja, Ganapatipule, India – 25/12/90)

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi further clarifies about the family relationship between

God the Son and His Father and Mother and how they are all so closely

inter-related:

 

" Christians have to rise above this Christianity and have to understand that

it's such a great thing that Christ came on this earth as the incarnation of the

principle of Ganesha. [That] Ganesha becoming Mahavishnu is a very big thing,

which one should try to understand. Ganesha is the Son of Shiva. Shri Ganesha is

the first one who was created before anything, any atmosphere, anything, because

He [Ganesha] is the Omkara and the Omkara is the first breaking [away] of Adi

Shakti [God the Mother] from Shiva [God the Father], that sound of Omkara. From

there started Omkara and He is the one who is the embodiment of that Omkara. So

the " sound " is Shri Ganesh; [it] is His power that was created first, as the

foremost thing, just to create holiness. " Pradakshna " [is] this holiness [that]

was created. Pradakshna [Holiness] was created and then everything was created

in the sea of that holiness. Then Christ incarnated, but as " Mahavishnu " … not

as Shiva's Son, but as Mahavishnu. Who is Vishnu? He is an uncle of Shri Ganesh.

His Mother's brother is Shri Vishnu. So He was brought up, you should say, by

Mahavishnu at that stage. However, Mahalakshmi adopted the principle of Shri

Ganesh. In the Kundalini chart you can see that Shri Ganesha is connected on the

left to the Ida Nadi and the Kundalini is above that. So now, what has happened,

is that He has transcended that part. And if He had to come for the redemption,

He had to come as the Son of Mahalakshmi. So it was Mahalakshmi who adopted Him,

we should really say, conceived Him within Himself as Christ. And He became

Mahavishnu. Anything is possible in the family of gods and goddesses because

they are gods. It is beyond the human mind to understand how these things are

working out, in that realm.

 

Now believe me, that there is no unholy alliances among the gods and goddesses.

No unholy alliance. There is nothing that is human in them. They are all divine,

" pure " . Once you understand this point, then you will understand why Shri

Ganesha had to accept to be the Son of Mahalakshmi [and] was born to Her as

Christ because He had to come on Agnya [the Narrow Gate] for the redemption.

Ganesha doesn't do the redemption part, because at that stage, He is for the

Innocence, for the Holiness, for the Wisdom and also for the destroying of

negativity. However, He had to be brought up. Only He, only Ganesha could be

brought to this very constricted chakra, Agnya chakra [Narrow Gate].

 

So in this very subtle area [Agnya/Narrow Gate] only Christ is subtle [enough]

because He's the subtlest of the subtle. He's even subtler than an atom, because

in the atom, those vibrations which move in isometric and symmetric movements,

are subtler than the atom. And this is subtler than that also. So in that small,

constricted area, only a personality like Christ [was possible] who was nothing

but purity. There is no element in Him but purity!

 

All other incarnations have all the 5 elements in them. He had nothing. He is

nothing but pure vibrations. That's why He could walk on the water, because

there was no mass in His body; no " matter " in His body, no " element " except for

Chaitanya itself [vibrations itself]…. Omkara with the Wind. Ganesha in the

bath, or [it] was [we] can say, the thing that came out of Her body. Only the

Chaitanya [the vibrations]. So at Ganesha's tail, we can see that the Chaitanya

[vibrations] were kept in that form, but in the state of Christ, it was not. But

the whole drama was played later on at His death and resurrection. Because He is

the One who is responsible for our Resurrection, because He's the Gate, but He

is not the destination. His Mother is the destination. Even Mahalakshmi is not

the destination. Even Mahakali, Mahasaraswati [are not the destination]. The Adi

Shakti is the destination where you have to reach. All these things were never

told in the Bible, because He could hardly live for 4 years with public life.

Nor did they [the priestly caste] want to tell about Him, because they did not

know. Also there was a definite suppression of all divine things, for these

people are all commercialised institutions.

 

The birth of Omkara; it's a very big thing, which moves into everything,

whatever it is. It is the atoms [and] molecules into all the organising of

chemicals; also the plenary clause and the gravity. Into everything that moves,

is this Omkara. And your vibrations are nothing but Omkaras. Actually the

vibrations in my photograph, have come as Omkaras. How is it [that] on top of

all Sahaja Yogis' heads, there is the Omkara. Who is doing this? It is He who is

doing all this. So Omkara itself takes the form to do [the] things to convince

you of the Adi Shakti [lit. Primordial power of God, known as God the Mother].

He's the one who is handling all these powers. He doesn't enter the photograph.

No, He does not but He plays a trick. After all, you see, if you go into

details, how do you get a photograph through the light. The light passes

straight; a straight line. However, if He wants, He can make a light pass

another way round. He can just transform the light. He can do whatever He likes.

And that's what He does to convince you. (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi – Christmas

Puja, Ganapatipule, India – 25/12/90)

 

[spiritual understanding and gender emphasis based upon Shri Mataji's teachings]

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Re: (HSS) New Heading #2

Date of Edit/Update: 3 May 2007

Nature of Edit: (Addition of song at beginning)

 

 

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>

> The Holy Spirit (the Mother) is assigned equal status with the

Father and the Son

 

 

All people that on earth do dwell,

Sing to the Lord with cheerful voice.

Him serve with fear, His praise forth tell;

Come ye before Him and rejoice.

 

The Lord, ye know, is God indeed;

Without our aid He did us make;

We are His folk, He doth us feed,

And for His sheep He doth us take.

 

O enter then His gates with praise;

Approach with joy His courts unto;

Praise, laud, and bless His Name always,

For it is seemly so to do.

 

For why? the Lord our God is good;

His mercy is for ever sure;

His truth at all times firmly stood,

And shall from age to age endure.

 

To Father, Son and Holy Ghost,

The God Whom Heaven and earth adore,

From men and from the angel host

Be praise and glory evermore.

 

http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/a/l/allpeopl.htm

 

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi has revealed that Christ Jesus did not

wish to reveal who His Mother was at His Time, as He wanted to

protect Her from physical danger at a time when crucifixions were

happening…. And it was not Her Time yet; it was His Time to do the

spiritual work at the Narrow Gate of Agnya, before His Mother the

Holy Spirit, could do Her work at this Time at the Kingdom of God

Within of Sahasrara. That is why He would talk about His Mother, as

the Holy Spirit, instead of revealing Her. Now it can be revealed

that when Christ is talking about the Holy Spirit, He is talking

about His Mother. In other words, His Mother, was not just " His "

Mother. She is " The Mother of All That Is " ! According to Shri Mataji,

this is implicit in Christ's saying of " Behold the Mother " , though

Christ's " meaning " was not clearly understood at that Time, but it

can be understood now, when the Mother will not be crucified, by

declaring who She is. Here is what Shri Mataji says regarding

Christ's statement, on the cross:

>

> " He [Christ Jesus] was the greatest Sahaja Yogi, but He had so many

powers, which are difficult for human beings to have [including] His

sacrifices, His adjustments and the acceptance of whatever was told

to Him. He accepted [it all]. [There is] His love for His Mother, and

on the cross He said: Behold the Mother. He just said: " Behold the

Mother " . (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi – Christmas Puja - Ganapatipule,

India – 27 December, 1994)

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi explains that His Mother was the power

behind Christ Jesus:

>

> " So coming to His Mother, She was the power behind Him [behind

Christ Jesus]. She was Mahalakshmi. The people who follow the

Mahalakshmi principle are beyond the material understanding of life,

beyond the Lakshmi principle " . (Shri Mataji's Puja Address - Pune,

India – 25 December 1987)

>

> There we have it! His Mother is the power behind Christ Jesus,

which is why He also said on the cross: " Behold the Mother! "

>

> It is " the Mother " , the Holy Spirit, who is the power behind Christ

Jesus and who reveals all the things of the Spirit, which eye has not

seen and ear has not heard and which has not entered the heart of

man, what God has prepared for those who love Him:

>

> " Things which eye has not seen and ear has not heard, and which

have not entered the heart of man, all that, God has prepared for

those who love Him. For to us, God revealed them through the Spirit

[God the Mother] for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths

of God. " (I Corinthians 2:9-10)

>

> In the following verse, God the Mother's fellowship is assigned

equal status with God the Father's love and with God the Son's grace:

>

> " The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ [the Son], and the love of God

[the Father] and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit [the Mother] be

with you all. " (2 Corinthians 13:14)

>

> The equal status between All Three is also seen in this verse,

where Christ Jesus asks his disciples to baptise people in the Name

of All Three:

>

> " Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them

in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit [the

Mother]. " (Christ Jesus - Matthew 28:19)

>

> Shri Mataji states that Christ Jesus is very protective of the Adi

Shakti [His Mother] and explains His Role in working everything out:

>

> " He [Christ Jesus] said that anything against Me I'll tolerate, but

nothing against the Holy Ghost. This Holy Ghost is the Adi Shakti

[Primordial power of God the Mother]. Without Him [Christ Jesus] you

cannot go to the Sahasrara [Kingdom of God Within]. He's the one who

is the conductor, the one who moves the strings in a puppet show. And

so it is very important to pray to Shri Ganesha every time we have

Puja [Worship]. We have to pray to Him and that's how we are praying

to Lord Jesus Christ. Every time. Without His auspiciousness, without

His help, we cannot do [the work of] Sahaja Yoga. He's the manager.

You see I'm sitting here and He's the manager. Supposing there's no

management? How will I speak here? Nothing can happen. But He is so

efficient, yet you never see Him working everything [out]……….doing

everything!!! (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi – Christmas Puja,

Ganapatipule, India – 25/12/90)

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi further clarifies about the family

relationship between God the Son and His Father and Mother and how

they are all so closely inter-related:

>

> " Christians have to rise above this Christianity and have to

understand that it's such a great thing that Christ came on this

earth as the incarnation of the principle of Ganesha. [That] Ganesha

becoming Mahavishnu is a very big thing, which one should try to

understand. Ganesha is the Son of Shiva. Shri Ganesha is the first

one who was created before anything, any atmosphere, anything,

because He [Ganesha] is the Omkara and the Omkara is the first

breaking [away] of Adi Shakti [God the Mother] from Shiva [God the

Father], that sound of Omkara. From there started Omkara and He is

the one who is the embodiment of that Omkara. So the " sound " is Shri

Ganesh; [it] is His power that was created first, as the foremost

thing, just to create holiness. " Pradakshna " [is] this holiness

[that] was created. Pradakshna [Holiness] was created and then

everything was created in the sea of that holiness. Then Christ

incarnated, but as " Mahavishnu " … not as Shiva's Son, but as

Mahavishnu. Who is Vishnu? He is an uncle of Shri Ganesh. His

Mother's brother is Shri Vishnu. So He was brought up, you should

say, by Mahavishnu at that stage. However, Mahalakshmi adopted the

principle of Shri Ganesh. In the Kundalini chart you can see that

Shri Ganesha is connected on the left to the Ida Nadi and the

Kundalini is above that. So now, what has happened, is that He has

transcended that part. And if He had to come for the redemption, He

had to come as the Son of Mahalakshmi. So it was Mahalakshmi who

adopted Him, we should really say, conceived Him within Himself as

Christ. And He became Mahavishnu. Anything is possible in the family

of gods and goddesses because they are gods. It is beyond the human

mind to understand how these things are working out, in that realm.

>

> Now believe me, that there is no unholy alliances among the gods

and goddesses. No unholy alliance. There is nothing that is human in

them. They are all divine, " pure " . Once you understand this point,

then you will understand why Shri Ganesha had to accept to be the Son

of Mahalakshmi [and] was born to Her as Christ because He had to come

on Agnya [the Narrow Gate] for the redemption. Ganesha doesn't do the

redemption part, because at that stage, He is for the Innocence, for

the Holiness, for the Wisdom and also for the destroying of

negativity. However, He had to be brought up. Only He, only Ganesha

could be brought to this very constricted chakra, Agnya chakra

[Narrow Gate].

>

> So in this very subtle area [Agnya/Narrow Gate] only Christ is

subtle [enough] because He's the subtlest of the subtle. He's even

subtler than an atom, because in the atom, those vibrations which

move in isometric and symmetric movements, are subtler than the atom.

And this is subtler than that also. So in that small, constricted

area, only a personality like Christ [was possible] who was nothing

but purity. There is no element in Him but purity!

>

> All other incarnations have all the 5 elements in them. He had

nothing. He is nothing but pure vibrations. That's why He could walk

on the water, because there was no mass in His body; no " matter " in

His body, no " element " except for Chaitanya itself [vibrations

itself]…. Omkara with the Wind. Ganesha in the bath, or [it] was [we]

can say, the thing that came out of Her body. Only the Chaitanya [the

vibrations]. So at Ganesha's tail, we can see that the Chaitanya

[vibrations] were kept in that form, but in the state of Christ, it

was not. But the whole drama was played later on at His death and

resurrection. Because He is the One who is responsible for our

Resurrection, because He's the Gate, but He is not the destination.

His Mother is the destination. Even Mahalakshmi is not the

destination. Even Mahakali, Mahasaraswati [are not the destination].

The Adi Shakti is the destination where you have to reach. All these

things were never told in the Bible, because He could hardly live for

4 years with public life. Nor did they [the priestly caste] want to

tell about Him, because they did not know. Also there was a definite

suppression of all divine things, for these people are all

commercialised institutions.

>

> The birth of Omkara; it's a very big thing, which moves into

everything, whatever it is. It is the atoms [and] molecules into all

the organising of chemicals; also the plenary clause and the gravity.

Into everything that moves, is this Omkara. And your vibrations are

nothing but Omkaras. Actually the vibrations in my photograph, have

come as Omkaras. How is it [that] on top of all Sahaja Yogis' heads,

there is the Omkara. Who is doing this? It is He who is doing all

this. So Omkara itself takes the form to do [the] things to convince

you of the Adi Shakti [lit. Primordial power of God, known as God the

Mother]. He's the one who is handling all these powers. He doesn't

enter the photograph. No, He does not but He plays a trick. After

all, you see, if you go into details, how do you get a photograph

through the light. The light passes straight; a straight line.

However, if He wants, He can make a light pass another way round. He

can just transform the light. He can do whatever He likes. And that's

what He does to convince you. (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi – Christmas

Puja, Ganapatipule, India – 25/12/90)

>

> [spiritual understanding and gender emphasis based upon Shri

Mataji's teachings]

>