Guest guest Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 (HSS) New Heading #4 -- In , > " Violet " <violet.tubb@> wrote: Tomorrow i will start to post all the New Headings separately [for the Holy Spirit/Shekinah site (HSS)] so anyone who wishes, can reply to them separately, with any relevant quotes and/or material they have from Shri Mataji. I'll then do a Combined Post that includes them all and write their individual Post Nos. beside each New Heading, so anyone wishing to reply to them, can easily do so. Anyone wishing to help could do a printout of the Combined Post on which i will put the individual Post Nos. of all the New Headings and that way it will be easy to find the post and reply to it, with whatever quotes and/or material you have come across that is relevant. (Post #7844) 4. / Heading The Holy Spirit is " the Lord Within " Do you not know that you are a temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? (I Corinthians 3:16) Christ Jesus said that we have to have our physical birth (be born of the water) and our spiritual birth (be born of the Spirit) in order to enter the Kingdom of God Within. Nicodemus said to Him [Jesus], " How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born, can he? " Jesus answered, " Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water [physical birth] and the Spirit [spiritual birth], he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God [Within]. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, 'You must be born again.' The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who is born of the [Holy] Spirit [the Mother]. (John 3:4-8) Whenever a man turns to the Lord [the Holy Spirit] the veil [within] is taken away. (2 Corinthians 3:16) Now the Lord is the [Holy] Spirit and where the Spirit of the Lord is [awakened within] there is liberty. (2 Corinthians 3:17) Things which eye has not seen and ear has not heard, and which have not entered the heart of man, all that, God has prepared for those who love Him. For to us, God revealed them through the [Holy] Spirit, for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. (I Corinthians 2:9-10) For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the Spirit of the man, which is in him [the Spirit within]. Even so, the thoughts of God no one knows, except the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit [within] who is from God, that we might know the things freely given to us by God, which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words. (I Corinthians 2:11-13) And in the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Herself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words; and She that searches the heart knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because She makes intercessions for the saints, according to the will of God. (Romans 8:26-27) [spiritual understanding and gender emphasis based upon Shri Mataji's teachings] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Re: (HSS) New Heading #4 Date of Edit: 3 May 2007 Nature of Edit: (Song added at beginning, after the title) 4. / Heading The Holy Spirit is " the Lord Within " Lord, all I am is known to Thee: In vain my soul would try To shun Thy presence, or to flee The notice of Thine eye. Thy all surrounding sight surveys My rising and my rest, My public walks, my private ways, The secrets of my breast. My thoughts lie open to Thee, Lord, Before they're formed within; And ere my lips pronounce the word, Thou knowest the sense I mean. O wondrous knowledge! deep and high: Where can a creature hide? Within Thy circling arms I lie, Beset on every side. So let Thy grace surround me still, And like a bulwark prove, To guard my soul from every ill, Secured by sovereign love. http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/l/a/laiaiktt.htm > Do you not know that you are a temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? (I Corinthians 3:16) > > Christ Jesus said that we have to have our physical birth (be born of the water) and our spiritual birth (be born of the Spirit) in order to enter the Kingdom of God Within. > > Nicodemus said to Him [Jesus], " How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born, can he? " Jesus answered, " Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water [physical birth] and the Spirit [spiritual birth], he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God [Within]. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, 'You must be born again.' The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who is born of the [Holy] Spirit [the Mother]. (John 3:4-8) > > Whenever a man turns to the Lord [the Holy Spirit] the veil [within] is taken away. (2 Corinthians 3:16) > > Now the Lord is the [Holy] Spirit and where the Spirit of the Lord is [awakened within] there is liberty. (2 Corinthians 3:17) > > Things which eye has not seen and ear has not heard, and which have not entered the heart of man, all that, God has prepared for those who love Him. For to us, God revealed them through the [Holy] Spirit, for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. > (I Corinthians 2:9-10) > > For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the Spirit of the man, which is in him [the Spirit within]. Even so, the thoughts of God no one knows, except the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit [within] who is from God, that we might know the things freely given to us by God, which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words. (I Corinthians 2:11-13) > > And in the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Herself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words; and She that searches the heart knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because She makes intercessions for the saints, according to the will of God. (Romans 8:26-27) > > [spiritual understanding and gender emphasis based upon Shri Mataji's teachings] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Re: (HSS) New Heading # 4 Date of Edit: 17 May 07 Nature of Edit: (Much additional material added) The Holy Spirit is " the Lord Within " 4. / Heading The Holy Spirit is " the Lord Within " Lord, all I am is known to Thee: In vain my soul would try To shun Thy presence, or to flee The notice of Thine eye. Thy all surrounding sight surveys My rising and my rest, My public walks, my private ways, The secrets of my breast. My thoughts lie open to Thee, Lord, Before they're formed within; And ere my lips pronounce the word, Thou knowest the sense I mean. O wondrous knowledge! deep and high: Where can a creature hide? Within Thy circling arms I lie, Beset on every side. So let Thy grace surround me still, And like a bulwark prove, To guard my soul from every ill, Secured by sovereign love. http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/l/a/laiaiktt.htm Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi states that it is only after our self realisation [the baptism of the Holy Spirit] that the Spirit of God can shine in our awareness: " The Spirit, which is the reflection of God Almighty, is the source of absolute truth and joy. But this spirit does not shine in our awareness when it is in the human state. Only after self realisation [the baptism of the Holy Spirit] does our awareness get enlightened by the Spirit. The first thing we have to understand and accept [is that] we are not this body, this mind, this intellect, these emotions, these conditionings or this ego. Thus to find pure love, peace and the joy of absolute truth, one has to become the Spirit. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi – book, Meta Modern Era – 29/09/95) The Scriptures also tell us, that it is the Spirit of God, which is received by us, that enables us to know the thoughts of God: " The thoughts of God no one knows, except the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God. " (1 Corinthians 2:11b-12a) The Scriptures tell us, that God has prepared many things for those who love Him: " Things which eye has not seen and ear has not heard, and which have not entered the heart of man, all that, God has prepared for those who love Him. " (1 Corinthians 2:9) However, these things are only revealed through the Spirit: " For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. " (1 Corinthians 2:10) " Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things freely given to us by God, which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words. " (1 Corinthians 2:10;12-13) The Holy Spirit becomes our " Lord within " when the Light of the Spirit is ignited within us. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi describes this happening: " When your Sahasrara opens out and your kundalini touches the fontanelle bone, a sort of igniting force is ready in your Sahasrara. As soon as the fontanelle bone area opens up in the brahmarandra, the grace of the Spirit ignites that igniting force and your nadis [NERVES] get enlightened; not all of them, but quite a lot of them. Not all the length, but quite a lot of the peripheries. That's how you get your enlightenment. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi – Sahasrara Day Puja Address – Le Raincy, France – 5 May 1982) Shri Mataji describes what happens within the person, when this ignition and subsequent en'light'enment of the Spirit occurs: " So many things happen because of the [ " seat " of] your seven [psychosomatic] centres being in the Sahasrara. With the light, you consciously experience the relative positions of these centres being integrated within you. [it is experienced that] the rationality that was separated from the heart, is now one with the heart and one with the attention. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi – Sahasrara Day Puja Address – Le Raincy, France – 5 May 1982) " Whenever a man turns to the Lord the veil is taken away. " (2 Corinthians 3:16) Thus, the Holy Spirit becomes the " Lord within " . Shri Mataji further describes how this oneness, this integration, works out the pure desire of the Holy Spirit: " Wherever your [enlightened] attention goes, it acts in a collective way. All the activities of your attention are blessed, as the attention itself, becomes effective. Your attention is very important; your desires are even more important, because it is such an integrated thing when your desires and your attention become " one " . " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi – Sahasrara Day Puja Address – Le Raincy, France – 5 May 1982) How do the Spirit and the attention work together? " Whatever is good for the Spirit you desire, so your attention goes towards whatever [benevolence] will cause the spiritual power to emit. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi – Sahasrara Day Puja Address – Le Raincy, France – 5 May 1982) Shri Mataji reveals how close this Spirit is to us, and that this Spirit is a reflection of God: " There exists the Kingdom of God, and it creates us, and the Lord of our autonomous nervous system is our Spirit, which is the reflection of God. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi – letter to Dr. Raul) Another time, Shri Mataji said that if you ask a Doctor: " Who runs our heart? " they would say it is the " autonomous nervous system " . However, She says: " But this autonomous nervous system has got the " Auto " behind it, and who is this " Auto " who runs it? She says that the Doctors will not be able to answer the question, but that they are honest not to answer therefore. However, She does give the answer: " But there is an answer to it. It is the soul which controls all such vital things in our being! " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi – book, Meta Modern Era – 29/09/95) The scriptures ask: " Do you not know that you are a temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? " (I Corinthians 3:16) In case we have not realised it, once our Spirit is raised to the throne of God Almighty, in the Kingdom of God within, then our Holy Spirit within, is the " Lord Within " . Practically speaking, when we have our baptism of the Holy Spirit, the Spirit within becomes our " Lord " , and there can only be " one " Lord. Shri Mataji said that " You have to become Lord of yourself " . However, Shri Mataji told us how so many people, just want to be " Lord " of others: " But I have seen in Sahaja Yoga, many people, you make them a leader, finished! Then, he sits on everybody's head! If you don't make them a leader, then they go on writing letters to Me, one after another, that: " Mother, we want to be leader, I want to be a leader. " Like this they go on insisting. For what do you want to be a leader? Just to dominate others? And this domination business is not meant for Sahaja Yogis!!! " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi – Easter Puja – Istanbul, Turkey – 19/04/98) Rather, Shri Mataji gives the beautiful image of Christ to us, who rose above the forces of domination. Christians will remember that He stood up to the priestly class, who disbelieved Him, and He spoke up very clearly that they were hypocrites, who clean the outside of the cup, but inside are dirty. Shri Mataji tells the beautiful story of Christ: " I'm here today to tell you about a beautiful image of Christ who rose above that [domination]. In the same way, we must allow for the death of all nonsensical ideas, negative thoughts, and everything like that, which has to be overcome. You have to be the Lord of yourself and in [being] that, you should feel so comforted, so happy!!! In giving to others you'll find it very much easier, than in taking something from others. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19/04/98) " But this greatness is not by domination or by showing off, but it comes from within, so that when people see you, they will know it is something special that you have! That is how Sahaja Yoga is going to spread. It's the Christ within you, who has to arise to guide and teach you how to behave towards others, how to gain their confidence, and give them the love and peace you have flowing within you, so that they also may become happy and joyous people. This is the Message of the Resurrection, the Message of the breaking of the Sahasrara!!! " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19/04/98) Now the Lord is the Spirit and where the Spirit of the Lord is [awakened within] there is liberty. (2 Corinthians 3:17) [spiritual understanding and gender emphasis based upon Shri Mataji's teachings] , " Violet " <violet.tubb wrote: > > Re: (HSS) New Heading #4 > Date of Edit: 3 May 2007 > Nature of Edit: (Song added at beginning, after the title) > > > 4. / Heading > > The Holy Spirit is " the Lord Within " > > Lord, all I am is known to Thee: > In vain my soul would try > To shun Thy presence, or to flee > The notice of Thine eye. > > Thy all surrounding sight surveys > My rising and my rest, > My public walks, my private ways, > The secrets of my breast. > > My thoughts lie open to Thee, Lord, > Before they're formed within; > And ere my lips pronounce the word, > Thou knowest the sense I mean. > > O wondrous knowledge! deep and high: > Where can a creature hide? > Within Thy circling arms I lie, > Beset on every side. > > So let Thy grace surround me still, > And like a bulwark prove, > To guard my soul from every ill, > Secured by sovereign love. > > http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/l/a/laiaiktt.htm > > > > Do you not know that you are a temple of God, and that the Spirit > of God dwells in you? (I Corinthians 3:16) > > > > Christ Jesus said that we have to have our physical birth (be born > of the water) and our spiritual birth (be born of the Spirit) in > order to enter the Kingdom of God Within. > > > > Nicodemus said to Him [Jesus], " How can a man be born when he is > old? He cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb and be > born, can he? " Jesus answered, " Truly, truly, I say to you, unless > one is born of water [physical birth] and the Spirit [spiritual > birth], he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God [Within]. That which > is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit > is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, 'You must be born > again.' The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, > but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is > everyone who is born of the [Holy] Spirit [the Mother]. (John 3:4- 8) > > > > Whenever a man turns to the Lord [the Holy Spirit] the veil > [within] is taken away. (2 Corinthians 3:16) > > > > Now the Lord is the [Holy] Spirit and where the Spirit of the Lord > is [awakened within] there is liberty. (2 Corinthians 3:17) > > > > Things which eye has not seen and ear has not heard, and which have > not entered the heart of man, all that, God has prepared for those > who love Him. For to us, God revealed them through the [Holy] Spirit, > for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. > > (I Corinthians 2:9-10) > > > > For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the Spirit of > the man, which is in him [the Spirit within]. Even so, the thoughts > of God no one knows, except the Spirit of God. Now we have received, > not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit [within] who is from God, > that we might know the things freely given to us by God, which things > we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those > taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual > words. (I Corinthians 2:11-13) > > > > And in the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do > not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Herself intercedes > for us with groanings too deep for words; and She that searches the > heart knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because She makes > intercessions for the saints, according to the will of God. (Romans > 8:26-27) > > > > [spiritual understanding and gender emphasis based upon Shri > Mataji's teachings] > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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