Guest guest Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > > > > The Holy Spirit - by Swami Nirmalananda Giri > > http://www.atmajyoti.org/gc_gnosis_creed_ch_16.asp > > > > > > The Resurrection of the dead - by Swami Nirmalananda Giri > > http://www.atmajyoti.org/gc_gnosis_creed_ch_19.asp > > > > i have never come across a more enlightening talk on the heart and > soul of Christianity. It is so powerful and deep that i cannot work > anymore, at least for a day or two. It is just too immense, and > strengthens my faith in the advent of the Divine Mother, Shri Mataji > ever more. No wonder She keeps talking about Lord Jesus and His > message of the Resurrection. She even broke years of silence last > month on Easter just to remind all Her devotees that Lord Jesus and > His message must be spread to the rest of humanity. Shri Mataji has > more than fulfilled Her duty, and carried out the task assigned to > Her flawlessly to the letter. > > But there is more to than meets the eye. Only in the thoughtless > state can you get it, but cannot explain your realization. i wish > all the Silence to realize the same Truth. If you don't get it > today there is always tomorrow ....... or the day after, or ...... > after. All i can say is that we are all verily meditating > worshipping the same God Almighty and His Holy Spirit. > > jagbir > Shri Mataji says that Muslims, Hindus, Christians and others have to be resurrected to a higher state to understand what is actually taking place on Earth. Shri Mataji even broke years of silence last month on Easter just to remind all Her devotees that Lord Jesus and His message must be spread to the rest of humanity. But why does She keep on telling us how important it is to believe in Jesus Christ? Extremely few know the real reasons, and by that i mean Her own disciples too. And it is only through Jesus Christ can we understand the Resurrection because by being the first to provide evidence of His own resurrection, He assures us that we too will be resurrected and attain the same eternal spirit and afterlife. Thus it is crucial for all to understand why Shri Mataji regards Jesus Christ as a pivotal figure in the Last Judgment and Resurrection: i) Jesus Christ claims that before Abraham He was already exisiting; ii) Jesus is the Alpha (the beginning as Shri Ganesha) and the end Omega (as Shri Kalki); iii) Jesus speaks Sanskrit when He converses with the Adi Shakti, Shri Krishna, Shiva, Ganesha, Vishnu, Rama, Sita, Hanuman and others; iv) His Resurrection was witnessed by the Adi Shakti, Shri Krishna, Shiva, Ganesha, Vishnu, Rama, Sita, Hanuman and others; v) The Qur'an proclaims that Lord Jesus will be the Sign of the Hour i.e., the commencement of the preordained Resurrection. vi) Jesus promised to send the Comforter who will explain all that He could not two thousand years ago; i) Lord Jesus claims that before Abraham He was already exisiting: " Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad. " The Jews therefore said to Him, " You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham? " Jesus said to them, " Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am. " Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself, and went out of the temple. John 8:56-59 The most emphatic claim of Jesus to deity is the statement in His discussion with the Jews, " Before Abraham was born, I am " (John 8:58, A.S.V.) The Jews brought the name of Abraham, their physical and spiritual father, into the conversation (vss. 52-53). Jesus seized upon it to lead on to His final claim in the verse already quoted, startling the Jews by saying: " Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day; and he saw it, and was glad " (vs. 56). When the Jews responded with a question as to how a man as young as Jesus could have seen Abraham, " Jesus claims eternal existence with the absolute phrase used of God. " [Archibald Thomas Robertson, Word Pictures in the New Testament, V, 158-59.] Jesus did not claim mere pre-existence to Abraham, which would have been expressed by the imperfect tense of the verb used concerning Abraham, but eternal existence, the self-existence that belongs to God alone. (Witmer, Did Jesus Claim to be God, Bibliotheca Sacra, January 1961, p.152-153) " I am; older than Abraham's origin is my existence. As Abraham had not pre-existed, but came into existence (by birth), ... so far as He exited before time, as to His divine nature, without having previously come into being. " (John, H. A. W. Meyer, John 8:58, p. 293) " The words ego eimi in John 8:58 do not function as a title of Christ, but are a statement of his eternality (and, implicitly, his deity). " (Bowman, JWs, Jesus Christ, and the Gospel of John, p.124) " Jesus' use of ego eimi constituted a claim to be eternal--to exist without ever having experienced a beginning--in contrast to Abraham. " (Rhodes, Reasoning from the Scriptures with the JWs; p.118) " The vast majority of translators see, as do many commentators, that there is a clear differentiation being made here between the derivative existence of Abraham and the eternal existence of the Lord Christ. " (White, The Forgotten Trinity, ch. 6, p.97, " I am He " ) " it invincibly proves his eternal pre-existence unto his incarnation " (Owen, Christologia, p. 116, concerning John 8:58) " But perhaps the greatest assertion to eternal preexistence is to be found in Jesus' " I am " saying of John 8:58. " (Reymond, New Systematic Theology, p.231, " I am " ) " Jesus also outrages his opponents by saying, " Before Abraham was, I am " (8:58). It is not easy to see this as anything less than the language of deity, for Jesus is affirming that he has timeless existence. " (Morris, New Testament Theology; p.235-238 The " I Am " Sayings) To the Jews, who claimed Abraham as Father, Jesus asserted, " Before Abraham Came to be, I am " (John 8:58, literal translation). By this Jesus taught there was a sense in which the idea of birth and beginning did not apply to Him; in Him was eternal existence (cf. Exodus 3:14). (Vos, Can I Really Believe?; p.100) The AV reports our Lord as saying to the Jews, " Before Abraham was, I am " (John 8:58 AV). " Was " is ginomai, the verb of " becoming, " not eimi, the verb of being. It is ingressive aorist, signifying entrance into a new condition. Our Lord said, " Before Abraham came into existence, I am. " He does not contrast Abraham's previous existence with His eternity of existence, but Abraham's coming into existence with His eternal being. There is a contrast between Abraham as a created being and our Lord as uncreated, the self-existent, eternal God. (Wuest, The Deity of Jesus in the Greek Texts of John and Paul, Bibliotheca Sacra, Jul 62, p.220-221) Was & I am (genesqai, egw eimi). It is important to observe the distinction between the two verbs. Abraham's life was under the conditions of time, and therefore had a temporal beginning. Hence, Abraham came into being, or was born (genesqai). Jesus' life was from and to eternity. Hence the formula for absolute, timeless existence, I am (egw eimi). (Vincent's Word Studies on John 8:58.) " In this context, Jesus does not merely claim to be older than Abraham. Gabriel or any of the angels, or even the devil, could have claimed as much. Are we really to believe that Gabriel or the devil could say, " Before Abraham came into existence, I am " ? The truth is that this statement was a claim to be eternal, to exist without beginning, in contrast to Abraham, who had a beginning. " (Bowman: Why You Should Believe in the Trinity; p 100 " I Am " ) " It is also indicated in Jesus' bold use of a present tense verb that implies continuing present existence when he replied to his Jewish adversaries, " Before Abraham was, I am " (John 8:58). " (Grudem: Systematic Theology, p.169, " I am " ) John 8:58. Before Abraham was, I am --The words rendered " was " and " am " are quite different. The one clause means, " Abraham was brought into being " ; the other, " I exist. " The statement therefore is not that Christ came into existence before Abraham did (as Arians affirm is the meaning), but that He never came into being at all, but existed before Abraham had a being; in other words, existed before creation, or eternally (as#Joh 1:1). In that sense the Jews plainly understood Him, since " then took they up stones to cast at Him, " just as they had before done when they saw that He made Himself equal with God (#Joh 5:18). (Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Complete Commentary) ii) I am the Alpha (the beginning as Shri Ganesha) and the end Omega (as Shri Kalki). In fact Shri Mataji has told us that through His crucifixion and resurrection He has been elevated to Shri Mahavishnu; I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and last. Blessed are they who do His commandments, that they may have right to the Tree of Life,A And may enter in through the GatesB of the City.C For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever love and makes a lie. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto thee these things in the churches.D I am the root and offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. And the SpiritE and the BrideF say, Come. And let him that hears say, Come. And let him that is athirst come, and whosoever will, let him take the Waters of LifeG freely. Revelations 22:13-17 A Tree of Life - The subtle system consisting of nadis, chakras and Sahasrara; B Gates - The very narrow Agnya chakra located at the optic chiasma where resides the Universal Savior Shri Jesus Christ; C City - The Sahasrara, Thousand-Petalled Lotus, or Kingdom of God; D Churches - “Once there was a single Christian group, Jesus of Nazareth’s tiny band of twelve apostles; now there are thousands. It has been estimated that there are some twenty-two thousand separate and distinct Christian groups around the world.” Charles Templeton, Farewell to God The Canadian Publishers, 1996 p. 130. E Spirit - GOD-ALMIGHTY, SADASHIVA, ALLAH, YAHWEH — THE FATHER. F Bride - HOLY SPIRIT, ADI SHAKTI, RUH, SHEKINAH — THE MOTHER. G Waters of Life - “. . . water is a very holy thing. . . This is the time of Aquarius means the Kundalini is made of Divine Water.” Shri Mataji Shri Nirmala Gruha Lakshmi, Diwali Puja, U.K. — November 1, 1981 “Before creation the Christ walked with the Father God and Mother God in Akasha.1 . . . Without Christ there is no light. Through Christ all life was manifest; and so through Him all things were done, and naught was done in forming worlds or populating worlds without the Christ. Christ is the Logos of Infinities and through the Word alone are Thought and Force made manifest. . . . Through Christ, the protoplast, the earth, the plant, the beast, the man, the angel and the cherubin took up their stations on the planes of life. Through Christ they are preserved; and if they fall it is Christ who lifts them up; and if they sell themselves to sin the Christ redeems. Now Christ, the universal Love, pervades all spaces of infinity, and so there is no end of Love. From the great heart of Love countless spirits were sent forth to demonstrate the height, the depth, the width, the boundlessnesss of Love. To every world and star and moon and sun a master spirit of this Love divine was sent; and all were full anointed with the oil of helpfulness, and each became a Christ. . . . Perfection is the ultimate of life. A seed is perfect in its embryonic life, but it is destined to unfold, to grow. Into the soil of every plane these seeds, which were the Thoughts of God, were cast — the seeds of protoplast, of earth, of plant, of beast, of man, of angel, of cherubim, and they who sowed the seeds, through Christ, ordained that they should grow, and should return at last, by effort of countless years, to the great granary of thought, and each to be a perfection of its kind. . . . Thus Christ made manifest Love’s power to save; but men forgot too soon, and so Christ must manifest again, and then again.2 And ever since man took his place in form of flesh the Christ has been manifest in flesh at the beginning of every age. . . . In many respects Jesus was a remarkable child, for by ages of strenuous preparation he was qualified to be an Avatara, a Saviour of the world, and from childhood. He was endowned with superior wisdom and was conscious of the fact that He was competent to lead the race into the higher ways of spiritual living. (pp. 12-13).... Among Dowling’s manuscripts there was one called “The Cusp of the Ages” describing the transfer of dominion from the Piscean Age to the Aquarian Age. It was published by Eva S. Dowling in the introduction to this gospel. Here is the description of the new era. “This age will be an age of splendour and light, because it is the home age of the Holy Breath; and the Holy Breath will testify anew for Christ, the Logos of the eternal Love. At first of every age this Logos is made manifest in flesh so man can see and know and comprehend a Love that is not narrow, circumscribed.” ” (1. “The Book of God’s Remembrance,” is known under the name of Akasha Records by the Hebrew sages [apud Kersten, p. 20]; 2. First as Shri Ganesha, second as Shri Jesus and then again as Shri Kalki.) Dan Costian, Bible Enlightened Computex Graphics, 1995, p. 259-61. “I had told you long time back that how we can prove that Christ was Ganesha. And He was the Logos. He was, what we call the Brahmanand, the First Sound.... So as you worship Ganesha, you must worship Christ in the same manner for all those who worship Ganesha. I have seen that Hindus, they’re stuck to Ganesha and Christians are stuck to Christ. Even after coming to Sahaja Yoga they carry those traits. Ganesha is all right up to a point and then it is important that we must pray to His Incarnation that is Christ. In the same way, those who worship Christ must also worship Ganesha because He’s the Source, He’s the potential of Christ. All this falls in the Divine Plan, done with Divine Discretion. Everything was done so beautifully, but as I told you, human beings are good at massacring anything that is beautiful and that’s how it has happened. It’s very, very sad and on His birthday, today, we have to decide that He is to be born within us, again in a proper way, that He’s the Alpha and the Omega. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Express Christ In Your Life, Christmas Puja, Ganapatipule, India — December 25, 1992 “We bow to the One who is the only Son of His Virgin Mother, in whose every pore of His body galaxies whirl as dust, who was born to teach us of His Father Sadashiva, the Everlasting God Almighty Amen. He is the Primordial Being, the AUM. He is Vishnu and the son of Vishnu. He is Mahavishnu... He was attended by the Three Magi, who were Brahma, Shiva and Vishnu... He is the Spirit. He is born of the Spirit... He is Lord Kartikeya. He is Shri MahaGanesha... He is the Alpha and Omega. He worships His Father. He is hallowed by His Father.” The 108 Names of Lord Jesus Christ, Sahaja Yoga Mantra Book (Sahaja Yoga Mantra Book Vishwa Nirmala Dharma, 1996, p. 42-4.) iii) Lord Jesus speaks Sanskrit when He converses with the Adi Shakti, Shri Krishna, Shiva, Ganesha, Vishnu, Rama, Sita, Hanuman and others. Kash was the first to confirm this but it is the testimony of his five-year-old brother Arwinder that is most memorable; " Yes, I Have Seen Him! The next day at 3:50 p.m., after he had returned from Victor-Thérien school, Arwinder was shown the color photograph of Lord Jesus Christ. This photograph was right on the first page of The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA, 6/94). Two young Mormon Christians, Elder Carpenter and Walter, gave this Bible to his father in 1995 while on house visits. They were operating from 33rd Avenue, Lachine, Montreal (Tel: [514] 634-4693). At the time of writing other Mormons had replaced them. After Arwinder had a good look at Lord Jesus he was questioned. Father: “Have you seen this person?” (Arwinder remains silent for a few seconds as he observes the face.) Father: “Did you see this man?” Arwinder: “Yes, but I don't know his name.” Father: “Where did you see Him?” Arwinder: “In my meditation.” Father: “Was it with Shri Mataji?” Arwinder: “Yes.” Father: “Arwinder, this man, His name is Jesus Christ. Is He big-sized or small-sized?” (Arwinder was at the while shown the photograph clearly showing an average-sized Christ.) Arwinder: “Big-size.” (Despite photographic evidence to the contrary Arwinder still replied that Lord Jesus was big-sized!) Father: “What color dress does He normally wear?” Arwinder: “Let me think.” (He closed his eyes for a few seconds before replying.) “White.” Father: “How long is the dress? until here? the knees? or down here?” (He was pointed to the waist, knees and ankles.) Arwinder: “Down here” (pointing and holding his ankles.) Father: “Arwinder, did you talk to him?” Arwinder: “Yes.” Father: “What did you talk to Him?” Arwinder: “I don't know. I forgot. Some I forgot.” Father: “What language did Lord Jesus Christ talk with you?” (He did not understand the meaning of language and was explained what it meant.) Arwinder: “Like how I talk.” (that is, in English.) Father: “What language did He talk with the others.” Arwinder: “Different.” Father: “What you mean 'different'?” Arwinder: “Like Punjabi.” (This probably is Sanskrit as he, having heard Punjabi being spoken at home, thought it to be similar.) The fact that Shri Jesus spoke with the other Divine Beings in Sanskrit will profoundly enlighten those who contemplate in silence the sheer depth of this Revelation. According to Shri Mataji Jesus was already existing eons ago, at the very beginning of Creation itself. Spiritual history is far ancient than the billions of years it took for this Earth, just a tick on the Cosmic Clock, to come to its present form. It is the endless birth and dissolution of similar universes that constitutes Cosmic Time. Eternity is beyond human comprehension as their history is actually not even a nanosecond old! Shri Adi Shakti: The Kingdom Of God page 389. iv) His Resurrection was witnessed by the Adi Shakti, Shri Krishna, Shiva, Ganesha, Vishnu, Rama, Sita, Hanuman and others; http://adishakti.org/jesus'_resurrection.htm http://adishakti.org/jesus'_resurrection/hole_in_the_rock_grave.htm v) The Qur'an proclaims that Lord Jesus will be the Sign of the Hour i.e., the commencement of the Resurrection. And (Jesus) shall be a Sign (for the coming of) the Hour (of Judgment: therefore have no doubt about the (Hour), but follow ye Me: this is a Straight Way. Qur'an 43.61 vi) He promised to send the Comforter who will explain all that He could not. Shri Mataji not only has accomplished that but also declared that the Last Judgment and Resurrection has commenced; The Comforter (Holy Breath) " And Jesus spoke again unto the eleven and said, " Grieve not because I go away for it is best that I should go away. If I do not go away the Comforter will not come to you. These things I speak while with you in the flesh, But when the Holy Breath shall come in power, lo, She will teach you more and more, And bring to you remembrance all the words I have said to you. There are a multitude of things yet to be said; Things that this age cannot receive because it cannot comprehend. But, lo, I say, Before the great day of the Lord shall come, The Holy Breath will make all mysteries known — The mysteries of the soul, of life, of death, of immortality, The oneness of man with every other man, and with his God. Then will the world be led to truth, and man will be truth. When She has come, the Comforter, She will convince the world of sin, And of truth of what I speak, and of the rightness of the Judgment of the just; And then the prince of carnal life will be cast out. And when the Comforter shall come, I need not intercede for you; For you shall stand approved, and God will know you then as he knows Me. " Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ 162:4-11 by Levi, M. D. Rey: DeVorss & Co., 1988. " The Holy Spirit of Wisdom has frequently changed its gender. It has been suggested that, because of the change in language and culture within the early Church, ‘this feminine aspect (ruach) to the inauguration of Jesus is neutered to pneuma in Hellenistic Christian communities and eventually masculanized to spiritus in the Latin church.’ This led to a shift from feminine to masculine metaphors. As Jung has remarked: ‘the Holy Ghost is not subject to any control.' but blows where it will, like the wind. " C. Matthews, Sophia: Goddess of Wisdom Aquarian Press, 1992, p. 135. " Before his Passover, Jesus announced the sending of " another Paraclete " (Advocate), the Holy Spirit, having previously " spoken through the prophets, " the Spirit will now be with and in the disciples, to teach them and guide them " into all truth. " [68] The Holy Spirit is thus revealed as another divine person with Jesus and the Father. " (68. Gen 1:2; Nicene Creed [DS 150]; Jn 14:17, 26; 16:13.) Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, Catechism of the Catholic Church (J. C. Ratzinger, Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1994, p. 64.) Shri Jesus promised humankind that He will send the Comforter who will explain all that was taught by Him. In order to do that He had to send someone divine, and backed by irrefutable proof for all humankind to examine. Shri Mataji, who took Her birth in a Christian family, directs all humans to find Jesus' mystical Kingdom of God within. Her Knowledge is that of the Spirit within and how to attain it. The essence of Her Message is exactly that of Shri Christ: Seek the sanctuary of the Kingdom of God within for " without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever love and makes a lie. " Since opening the Sahasrara Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi in 1970 has worked tirelessly preaching the Message of Jesus to all — Hindus, Muslims, Jews, Buddhist, Taoist, Christians, Sikhs. For the last three decades She has: 1. glorified Jesus to all humans, irrespective of race, religion or creed — " will glorify me " (John 16.14). 2. borne witness that Shri Jesus must be accepted and there is no salvation without Him — " will bear witness to me " (John 15.26). 3. has warned that He will be incarnating as Shri Kalki during the second Coming — " will convince the world concerning sin because they do not believe in me " (John 16. 8-9). 4. has enlightened the seekers of the deep esoteric parables of Jesus and the mystic Kingdom of God — " will take what is mine and declare it to you " (John 16.14). 5. has awakened humanity to the true teachings of Jesus, teachings that are still beyond their present comprehension — " will bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you " (John 14.26). Shri Jesus Christ promised that He would ask God Almighty to send a future Comforter whose primary duty would be to " make all mysteries known — The mysteries of the soul, of life, of death, of immortality, the oneness of man with every other man, and with his God. " That is precisely what Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi has done. Shri Adi Shakti: The Kingdom Of God records overwhelming, unassailable evidence that She is that Comforter sent to explain all mysteries, and lead the believers during the Resurrection — " before the great day of the Lord shall come " (Second Coming). All i can say is that we are all verily worshipping and meditating on the same God Almighty and His Holy Spirit/Shakti/Ruh within. Just like the Adi Shakti, Jesus Christ too is entrenched in the Holy Scriptures of Hinduism, Judaism, Christianity and Islam. It is only with the advent of the Adi Shakti that we have found out how humans have corrupted the religions over the centuries. So enter in through the Gates of the City within yourself to seek and meditate on God and His Spirit for without are dogs, sorcerers, whoremongers, murderers, idolaters, and whosoever love and makes a lie. In others words, there is no hope of salvation in the churches, mosques, synagogues, temples and gurdwaras. Amen. regards to all, jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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