Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Dear all, here is a letter Alice sent me. I translated it into English and gave my answer only in English. From now on i will refuse to answer in french,except if i can help someone to understand a quote of Shri Mataji, or translate a post from someone who does not know english at all, but i will always post the original version to avoid any misunderstanding. Writing in english is also difficult for me,but Shri Mataji asked us to learn it. After all we are not supposed to write in the Shakespeare style. Love Nicole ***************** Dear Nicole, I didn't know you speak french also, then I would like you, please, to explain me what's going on in Sahaja Yoga ? What happens really ?, Why jagbir is so vehement (though is such a great soul), toward the other SY of WCASY, sometimes it makes me sad to see that as Mother is still alive, such things happen. It seems that jagbir thinks that the ancients yogis try to hide things to the others, , I should not react to what he says sometimes, but I am also an ancient yogini and be sure that so far we have done and still do what is possible to spread SY…. He use to speak of Resurrection, but Realization is Resurrection itself ! Sometimes I `d like to write a long message, but though Ispeak English since 40 yers, some words seem not to be appropriate so i refrain from writing. Tell him that nothing is hidden in SY, All is here… All that has been said to the ancient has been rigourously reported to the others. What happened with uncle Guido, I have heard that he was « super » violent with the children and even an anti-Sahaj website report that he had « affairs » with many yoginis. If it is true, is that a yogi behaviour, he who has been so cole to Shri Mataji ????? Jagbir says that Sir CP has been accepted as Lord Shiva's Incarnation. WE DO NOT HAVE HEARD ANYTHING LIKE THAT HERE, and if that was the cas and that a few Incarnations are there and that a few chosen people have the knowledge of it, what is the problem ? 2 or 3 Incarnations always came together. In the islamic period, Lalla Fatima was Shri Mahalakhsmi Herself. Brahmadeva, the Propher Ali, Shri mahomet, Adi Guru Dattatreya, Lalla Khadija, Shri Mahakali, so why the husband and the daughters of Mother should not be also Incarnations ? But whatever it is, our Incarnation, in this period, the Principal Incarnation is Shri Adi Shakti, our Divine Mother et it is Her who makes us twiceborn. Shri Jesus came along with His Mother, Mahalakshmi and Lord Rama came with Lord Hanumana who is Shri Ganesha ???? Jagbir refers sometimes to fals gugus websites, he should not, we all know that the world is stuffed with false gurus, he sould not soil his site that way…. Sometimes Jagbir quotes one or another swami…. We should only quote Shri Adi Shakti, as it is Her whom he defends Body and Soul, so who cares of the others ? it could disturb the new comers (because Jagbir's site is famous) and if they were so « swami » they should be at the feet of Shri Mataji, just like us. Thank you in advance to convey this message to him With affection , Jay ! My answer, in English only : Dear Sharmila, I would like to thank you for your message. I will try to answer your letter. I do it in English, although it is not my mother tongue, but reading is easier than writing. First i will explain you in which circumstances i chosed to join the forum. After 10 years in SY, i was asking me crucial questions such as why new comers sytematically run away after a few weeks in SY. As you know we come from different backgrouds and the reasons for joining SY are very different from an individual to another. In my case, i have been searching from my very childhood. I was born a christian. At the age of ten, the church refused me to get the confirmation because my parents had not attended all the meetings (for very good reasons) so at that early age i told myself that i would never return in such a weird organization. As an adolescent i started to live in a parallel world, haunted by goddesses that i used to draw, I had a good friend also who used to write fantasy stories with goddesses. I felt very different and somehow rejected. As a young adult i started praying a « Mother », not Mary, but a Glorious, Powerful Goddess. One day i was so sad that i sat on the ground and shouted : Mother i know you exist, so please manifest Yourself, because this world is mad . Believe me or not, but 3 days later, i had the opportunity to join SY. I won't tell you here the exact circumstances, because it is not the purpose of this letter. My experience was « TREMENDOUS » any time i attended the collective meditations i felt drops flowing on my face from my Sahasrara. Doubt could not have place in my experience, because i knew that it was the ultimate goal of my life. Then i attended to public programs, i gave realization to many many seekers. But when they joined the collective EVERYTHING was made to disgust them to come again. I won't tell you what i've been perosnnally through (you should get rid of your cats, you should quit your studies, your friends, family, and so on….) Never mind because my only Reference was Mother and i was established. But for new comers, they came with an open mind, an open heart and at the beginning everyone was kind, but after sometime they were illtreated, and finally left the collective. I can't tell you all the nonsense i heard while i was there, and finally i came to the conclusion that if they wanted to ruin SY they would not act in an other way. I've left SY since 2000. The Goddess, the Immense Shri Adi Shakti, Shri Nirmala Devi Mataji did not leave me. I found the forum thanks to a yogini who told me about it. And here i am…. Excuse me for this long introduction, but i would like you to seize whom you are dealing with, and then come tou your own conclusions. I will here only give you first hand informations, and i will avoid dealing with rumors. When i was in the collective i had plenty of time to watch how a « happy few » were sharing the power, how they put pressure on weak and poor SY in order to make them their obligees. I witness how they ruined marriages, or better how they organize marriages (including mine) in the name of Shri Mataji. I can tell you also that at each Puja we organized i was devoted to clean the toilets or peel the onions, but never mind, i made it with JOY and dignity, and i have been rewarded in a considerable way. I heard them talking about things that the « others » the small people should not hear about… i can describe you how they were fighting during Pujas because they wanted their child to be at Shri Mataji's. Regarding public programs, only few of them were allowed to speak. Most of the time, they use to speak and speak without coming to the Point, which is the Realization. People were systematically put on the mental state by their endless speach and when it came to giving Realization, the half of the hall had left, and the other half would leave after a few weeks of « collective regime» experience. Regarding Guido, i can not provide you any answer, both my children went to Rome and during all this period no one complained. but i can assure you that having affairs with yoginis, i would say more precisely, forcing young indian girls to sleep happened amongst « great yogis » who are still in place and are so (physically) close to Shri Mataji. And i do not hold those informations from anti-SY websites that i refuse categorically to read, as they are false gurus. Regarding Incarnations, what is the use for a God to incarnate as Shri Adi Shakti Herself incarnated with ALL HER POWERS. You are an ancient yogini Sharmila, you know that we do celebrate Pujas to Shri Mataji of course but also for Shri Ganesha, Shri Shiva, etc… Shri Shiva NEVER incarnates, and when we say the mantras, we say « …… Shri Shiva SAKSHAT, Shri Adi Shakti Mataji, Shri Nirmala Devi, …… » which means that we pay hommage to Shri Shiva in the person, the Incarnation of Shri Mataji. How many time did She claim that She is the Adi Shakti, with all the Powers ….. Dear Sharmila, Resurrection is actually a crucial point now, because we the SY of the world have to explain to all the followers of all the religions that getting the Realization is the Resurrection. But having the Realization does not mean that you have your ticket for the Kingdom of God. No, it is only the first step. Shri Mataji said many times that we should not take it for granted. Realization allows you to integrate all the powers Shri Mataji bestowed on us. If having the Realization is effortless, it doesn't mean that our task is over. We have to go deeper, higher and meet Shri Adi Shakti in the Sahasrara, and only There (in the Sahasrara) ou will be allowed to say that you met HER , because Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi in Her physical form is Shri Maha Maya. That is why, after a long period , Shri Mataji broke the Silence, the Easter Day and that She spoke…. Of Resurrection. I noticed also that the SY use to consider themselves as the chosen ones, of course that is the truth, but our existence is meant to try to save the others, not to enjoy our « special status » and show off in fine embroided saris, fancy cars, big houses, etc.. We do not have the right to abandon all the seekers of the truth, even if their poor dicretion lead them to follow rakhshasas, we have to save them, because SHRI Mataji asked us to do it, and if we fail in this mission, who will succeed ? She has sacrified Her Life for us, to make us ready, it is our Duty. Every mean is the right one if you feel it. So now Sharmila you have reached an important crossroad : one way leads to a sinking ship, the other one to Freedom .You have to go deep in your Soul and find the Truth. This being done, you will have to follow your own way in full confidence. I hope to meet you soon in the Kingdom of God Sincerely yours Nicole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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