RE : Alice letter

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My dear sister Nicole,

 

Jay Shri Mataji,

 

Thank you so much for your translation it is exactely

what I meant.

About your letter and all what you explained to me

about your seeking, My God I felt so tremendous

vibrations, it was like a meditation, thank you. What

you told me, your story, it's exactely what happened

to me,I could not accept neither admit that Lord

Christ was completely rejected from the Jewish

religion ( I am Jewish ). I did'nt know nothing about

" a Mother " , we only pray God The Father.... The

" Shekina " is hidden . It's only a few rabins who dare

say something !

And one lucky night ,(20years ago ) I dreamed of

Mother as I was in big urge of seeking God. I needed

Him so badely.Then She came with the Shri Chakra and a

rainbow in Her Hand telling me that's my gift for You,

I didn' even know what a Shri Chakra was, I tought it

was David Star designed in a different way ( by the

way I'm writing a book it's writen in french ) and the

title is " Flying for God ). I'll try to send to all

of you some parts of the book, everybody has to know

Shri Mataji's Love and protection

I have many, many things to share with all of you and

I'll do it with love and affection. I'm so surprised

of some reactions of yogis, having their children next

to Our Holy Mother.We are always next to Her even

hundred miles away...Of course like you and Jagbir I

also went through frustrations are some so called

yogis tried to make fun of some of " my visions "

saying <clean your Agnya>, but by " Her Grâce " I knew

that it had to do nothing with agnya, but blessings,

and we all receive them but we don't recognise them as

so , some times.At that time I also wanted to leave

the collectivity, and one (I think great yogi

Vajrapani told me < Sharmila please, NEVER mix Sahaja

Yoga and Sahaja Yogis > I think Mother talked to me

through his mouth !. Now they also see the vibrations

and understand the every day miracles. For some it

takes more time I don't know why. Anyway, Mother is

God and God Knows His children !

No you don't have to write in a Shakesperian way, but

when your Mother tong is french, you don't like tu use

unadecate words.

Thanks to you, to all of you.

With love ** Sharmila**

 

 

 

 

--- nicole_bougantouche

<nicole_bougantouche a écrit :

 

> Dear all, here is a letter Alice sent me. I

> translated it into English and gave my

> answer only in English.

>

> From now on i will refuse to answer in french,except

> if i can help someone to

> understand a quote of Shri Mataji, or translate a

> post from someone who does

> not know english at all, but i will always post the

> original version to avoid any

> misunderstanding.

>

> Writing in english is also difficult for me,but Shri

> Mataji asked us to learn it.

> After all we are not supposed to write in the

> Shakespeare style.

>

> Love

>

> Nicole

> *****************

>

> Dear Nicole,

>

> I didn't know you speak french also, then I would

> like

> you, please, to explain me what's going on in Sahaja

> Yoga ?

> What happens really ?, Why jagbir is so vehement

> (though is such a great

> soul), toward the other SY of WCASY, sometimes it

> makes me sad to see that

> as Mother is still alive, such things happen. It

> seems that jagbir thinks that the

> ancients yogis try to hide things to the others, , I

> should not react to what he

> says sometimes, but I am also an ancient yogini and

> be sure that so far we

> have done and still do what is possible to spread

> SY….

>

> He use to speak of Resurrection, but Realization is

> Resurrection itself !

> Sometimes I `d like to write a long message, but

> though Ispeak English since

> 40 yers, some words seem not to be appropriate so i

> refrain from writing.

>

> Tell him that nothing is hidden in SY, All is here…

> All that has been said to the

> ancient has been rigourously reported to the others.

> What happened with

> uncle Guido, I have heard that he was « super »

> violent with the children and

> even an anti-Sahaj website report that he had «

> affairs » with many yoginis. If

> it is true, is that a yogi behaviour, he who has

> been so cole to Shri Mataji

> ?????

>

> Jagbir says that Sir CP has been accepted as Lord

> Shiva's Incarnation. WE

> DO NOT HAVE HEARD ANYTHING LIKE THAT HERE, and if

> that was the cas

> and that a few Incarnations are there and that a few

> chosen people have the

> knowledge of it, what is the problem ? 2 or 3

> Incarnations always came

> together. In the islamic period, Lalla Fatima was

> Shri Mahalakhsmi Herself.

> Brahmadeva, the Propher Ali, Shri mahomet, Adi Guru

> Dattatreya, Lalla

> Khadija, Shri Mahakali, so why the husband and the

> daughters of Mother

> should not be also Incarnations ?

>

> But whatever it is, our Incarnation, in this period,

> the Principal Incarnation is

> Shri Adi Shakti, our Divine Mother et it is Her who

> makes us twiceborn. Shri

> Jesus came along with His Mother, Mahalakshmi and

> Lord Rama came with

> Lord Hanumana who is Shri Ganesha ????

>

> Jagbir refers sometimes to fals gugus websites, he

> should not, we all know

> that the world is stuffed with false gurus, he sould

> not soil his site that way….

> Sometimes Jagbir quotes one or another swami…. We

> should only quote Shri

> Adi Shakti, as it is Her whom he defends Body and

> Soul, so who cares of the

> others ? it could disturb the new comers (because

> Jagbir's site is famous) and

> if they were so « swami » they should be at the feet

> of Shri Mataji, just like us.

>

> Thank you in advance to convey this message to him

>

> With affection , Jay !

>

> My answer, in English only :

>

> Dear Sharmila,

>

> I would like to thank you for your message. I will

> try to answer your letter. I do it

> in English, although it is not my mother tongue, but

> reading is easier than

> writing.

>

> First i will explain you in which circumstances i

> chosed to join the forum. After

> 10 years in SY, i was asking me crucial questions

> such as why new comers

> sytematically run away after a few weeks in SY.

>

> As you know we come from different backgrouds and

> the reasons for joining

> SY are very different from an individual to another.

>

>

> In my case, i have been searching from my very

> childhood. I was born a

> christian. At the age of ten, the church refused me

> to get the confirmation

> because my parents had not attended all the meetings

> (for very good

> reasons) so at that early age i told myself that i

> would never return in such a

> weird organization.

>

> As an adolescent i started to live in a parallel

> world, haunted by goddesses

> that i used to draw, I had a good friend also who

> used to write fantasy stories

> with goddesses. I felt very different and somehow

> rejected.

>

> As a young adult i started praying a « Mother », not

> Mary, but a Glorious,

> Powerful Goddess. One day i was so sad that i sat on

> the ground and shouted

> : Mother i know you exist, so please manifest

> Yourself, because this world is

> mad .

>

> Believe me or not, but 3 days later, i had the

> opportunity to join SY. I won't tell

> you here the exact circumstances, because it is not

> the purpose of this letter.

> My experience was « TREMENDOUS » any time i attended

> the collective

> meditations i felt drops flowing on my face from my

> Sahasrara.

>

> Doubt could not have place in my experience, because

> i knew that it was the

> ultimate goal of my life.

> Then i attended to public programs, i gave

> realization to many many seekers.

> But when they joined the collective EVERYTHING was

> made to disgust them

> to come again.

>

> I won't tell you what i've been perosnnally through

> (you should get rid of your

> cats, you should quit your studies, your friends,

> family, and so on….) Never

> mind because my only Reference was Mother and i was

> established.

>

> But for new comers, they came with an open mind, an

> open heart and at the

> beginning everyone was kind, but after sometime they

> were illtreated, and

> finally left the collective.

>

> I can't tell you all the nonsense i heard while i

> was there, and finally i came to

> the conclusion that if they wanted to ruin SY they

> would not act in an other

> way.

>

> I've left SY since 2000. The Goddess, the Immense

> Shri Adi Shakti, Shri

> Nirmala Devi Mataji did not leave me.

>

> I found the forum thanks to a yogini who told me

> about it. And here i am….

>

> Excuse me for this long introduction, but i would

> like you to seize whom you

> are dealing with, and then come tou your own

> conclusions.

>

> I will here only give you first hand informations,

> and i will avoid dealing with

> rumors.

>

> When i was in the collective i had plenty of time to

> watch

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