What SM says about Christ's resurrection and cruelty of crucifixion

May 25, 2007

Dear All,

At the Easter Puja in Istanbul, Turkey on 19 April 1998, Shri Mataji Nirmala

Devi talked about Christ, the beauty of resurrection, the cruelty of

crucifixion, and what Christ achieved for humanity:

" Today, we are celebrating the resurrection of Christ. That is the greatest

Message of Christ's life; not the crucifixion. Anybody can be crucified and

killed, but this dead body of Christ was resurrected from death. " (Shri Mataji

Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April 1998)

[so, it was the resurrection that is of importance, as anyone can be crucified

and killed, which many were at that time. Shri Mataji interestingly tells that

with regard to Christ, " Death itself died " !!!]:

" Death itself died and He overcame [death]. It's a miracle for ordinary human

beings, but definitely not for Christ, because He was a divine person. He was

Shri Ganesha, He was Omkara Itself. So, He could walk on the water; gravity

would not affect Him, and also He got resurrected because death could not affect

Him. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April

1998)

[shri Mataji Nirmala Devi explains that Christ Jesus was a great Divine

personality that came, and that people should have recognised Him, but instead

they crucified Him]:

" Such a great divine personality, specially created for human beings that people

should recognise Him. But they did not recognise Him, they killed Him in a very

rude manner and even now, they think cross is a great thing because Christ died

on a cross. It's a very cruel idea of human beings to respect the cross. What

does it show? It shows that people liked all the cruelties done to Him,

symbolising cross as the one that represented His death and these atrocities,

the way He was tortured. So, it was a very sad time when He was crucified. "

(Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April 1998)

[shri Mataji talks about the joy of Christ's resurrection, and how Christ's

resurrection is symbolic for human beings, in that they also can be

resurrected]:

" But when He got resurrected it was the most joyous, most auspicious and most

beautiful time. The resurrection of Christ is very symbolic for Sahaja Yoga. If

Christ could be resurrected, then human beings can also be resurrected, because

He came as a human being with all powers and He created the path of resurrection

for us. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April

1998)

[Christians sometimes worship and idolize the pierced hands of Christ Jesus, and

other crucifixion details. This is a form of idolatry of the cruelty of the

crucifixion itself, and in a way, does not please Christ Jesus, because if He is

in us, and we are in Him, it is not a pleasing thing to be reminded of cruelties

inflicted on oneself; even if it is Christ Himself. It is much better to

contemplate on the fact that Christ Jesus pierced through the Agnya Chakra

(Christian " Narrow Gate " ) for us, so that we can ascend to the Kingdom of Heaven

(a.k.a. Hindu " Sahasrara " )]:

" This path of resurrection is the one that we have followed in Sahaja Yoga

[union with the Divine Within] but the greatest thing is the piercing of the

Agnya Chakra, which is described in all spiritual treaties or may be called as

the Scriptures that, that is the door which is golden, which is like a cover and

no one can pass through that, so constricted is this door of Agnya chakra ['the

Narrow Gate']. But Christ did cross that. His crossing has helped us today to

open your Agnya ['Narrow Gate']. Without opening the Agnya, you cannot go to the

Sahasrara [Kingdom of God] and this was done so easily in your case... only

because Christ could go through all that torture and all that brutality and

crossed over. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19

April 1998)

[shri Mataji says that we are indebted to Christ, for He was the first one who

told people that: " Ask, and it shall be given to you; seek, and you shall find;

knock and it shall be opened to you. " (Christ Jesus - Matthew 7:7} Christ also

said, that the Door or Gate, which one needs to knock at and go through, in

order to reach the Kingdom of Heaven, is the narrow one: " Enter by the Narrow

Gate, for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction. "

(Christ Jesus - Matthew 7:13) Shri Mataji has taught that the wide gate that

Christ talked about, has two paths, that lead to destruction. She says that the

left side of the wide gate leads to the subconscious realm, which is where all

that is past resides, and that the right side of the wide gate, leads to the

supraconscious realm, where all that is the future resides. She says that these

paths lead to a " dead end " , as far as our spiritual evolution is concerned. She

says that in order to evolve spiritually, and enter the Kingdom of Heaven, we

must take the Narrow Gate, where Christ resides, where we are " in the present " .

It is only when we are " in the present " in our consciousness, that we can evolve

spiritually. It is only when we are " in the present " with our Higher Self or

Spirit, that we can have our spiritual evolution that leads to spiritual

liberation. That is why we are indebted to Christ, as He opened this path of

spiritual evolution of human consciousness. Shri Mataji explains this]:

" How much we should be indebted to Him, I don't know a word that can express,

because He is the One who took the lead in telling people that: " You seek, you

seek and you'll find " and then He says that: " You have to come and bang at the

door. " This is exactly what has happened in your case; that you have risen up to

Agnya and then you have crossed beyond Agnya. This crossing of Agnya was not at

all difficult for Him, though by your own ideas of thinking and of the

conditionings of the futuristic planning and all that, it was a big, big crowd,

I should say... of very black clouds that were hovering on the Agnya. Thoughts

were overpowering, and you could not penetrate to this Agnya which was all

covered, but [through Sahaja Yoga] you have done it, and you have not even felt

how easily you have crossed through the Agnya Chakra! " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

- Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April 1998)

[shri Mataji Nirmala Devi says we should all be very thankful to Christ, for

opening the Agnya ( " Narrow Gate " ) for us. She says He broke through all the

black clouds that hovered at the Agnya]:

" First of all, we all should be very thankful to Christ for opening the Agnya

( " Narrow Gate " ) for you. For Him, all the tortures and all the brutality were

nothing because of His purpose of His life. The purpose of His Advent, His

incarnation, was to break [through] the Agnya Chakra. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala

Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April 1998)

[Which will also remind us, that Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, came to open the

Sahasrara of the humanity, so that we can become a higher spiritual race of

people. However, Shri Mataji finds it surprising, that in spite of Sahaja Yoga

(Union with the Divine Within) that Sahaja Yogis { " born of the Spirit persons " )

are still getting involved in the Agnya Chakra, even though the Agnya has been

opened out by Christ]:

" Today, you will find that even though your Agnya is opened out, and still

you'll be amazed that people get involved in the Agnya Chakra. In Sahaja Yoga,

people do get involved in Agnya Chakra. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja

- Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April 1998)

[shri Mataji Nirmala Devi says that we can introspect, thus avoiding the

pitfalls, of getting involved in the Agnya Chakra]:

" Now how do we see what happens to us? Through introspection! " (Shri Mataji

Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April 1998)

[shri Mataji then describes what happens once people come to Sahaja Yoga]:

" For example, once people come to Sahaja Yoga, they think they are in charge. In

charge of this, in charge of that, in charge of all the Sahaja Yogis. And they

start behaving in a manner which doesn't behoove a Sahaja Yogi. It doesn't. I

have seen them and I am amused the way they start trusting themselves and

showing off that they are very much in charge. This is nothing modern. This used

to be there with human beings, but if it was so, it was before Sahaja Yoga

[ " before one's Union with the Divine Within " ]. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi -

Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April 1998)

[shri Mataji explains that Sahaja Yoga is not as simple as it might appear to

be, but that there are a lot of temptations in Sahaja Yoga, which is of course

why introspection is greatly needed!]:

" Even now people get into the mood of dominating others, by saying that we are

in charge! Sahaja Yoga is not [as] simple as you think, because there are a lot

of temptations! " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19

April 1998)

[shri Mataji further states that positions of leadership are one of the many

temptations in Sahaja Yoga. She explains what happens with this temptation]:

" Supposing you make somebody a leader. Now, leader becomes some sort of in

charge, you see and he gets the drunkenness of power. When he is like that, he

starts dominating all the rest of the people and also starts showing off that he

is something very great and he has to dominate all the rest of the people. "

(Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April 1998)

[According to Shri Mataji, this drunkard of power, then creates an atmosphere of

fear, and says that it is Shri Mataji's idea]:

" Then he creates an atmosphere of fear. Firstly I have seen what happens with

them, is that they start saying falsely that: " Mother has told this, Mother has

said so. This is Mother's idea. I have nothing to do with that gentleman but he

goes on talking like that and people get very frightened. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala

Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April 1998)

[According to Shri Mataji, this drunkard of power, then says he will tell Mother

about people, and She will punish them]:

" Then also he can also frighten you by saying: " I will tell Mother. Mother will

listen to me and She'll punish you. " I'm sometimes very surprised at such people

because I have never said that I will punish somebody or I will take him out of

Sahaja Yoga. Nothing of the kind. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja -

Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April 1998)

[According to Shri Mataji, this drunkard of power thinks no end of himself]:

" So, this man who thinks no end of himself, he may be a leader, may not be a

leader, may be nothing in Sahaja Yoga and then he starts talking like this, in

such a funny manner that it doesn't look that the person is a Sahaja Yogi. "

(Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April 1998)

[According to Shri Mataji, this drunkard of power then describes himself as

something very great, as if he is the one who is chosen specially for rising

higher and higher]:

" Then he goes even further. He goes himself describing as something very great

as if he is the one who is chosen specially for the rrising higher and higher. "

(Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April 1998)

[shri Mataji is really amazed, how people can befool themselves like this. she

says that the first thing in Sahaj is humility, and if a person cannot be

humble, then they are not a Sahaja Yogi!]:

" When I hear about these things, I'm really amazed how can people befool

themselves all the time and behave in such a manner. First thing in Sahaja Yoga

is humility. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19

April 1998)

[shri Mataji states that if a person is not humble, then they cannot be a Sahaja

Yogi. She says that a person that orders others about, and talks in a manner, as

if they are Hitler, that this shows they have not achieved anything, as far as

Sahaja Yoga is concerned]:

" If you are not a humble person, you cannot be a Sahaja Yogi. The person who

orders about, the person who talks in a manner as if he is Hitler, any person

who tries to control and being in charge of the thing, all these capacities only

show that that person has achieved nothing in Sahaja Yoga. First thing is to

enjoy the humility. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey

- 19 April 1998)

[shri Mataji also states that these people will always sit in the first row, so

they can be sitting where they can see Her, and are all the while smiling. She

in fact knows that they are just show-offs, who think no end of themselves!]:

" I have seen people like this. They'll always sit in the first row. They will be

always sitting in a place where they just see Me, all the time there and just

smile. I know they are just show-offs. They think no end of themselves, and

that's why they are there, but they themselves are loosing, they themselves are

not very happy. That's why they try to do all these tricks and do all this kind

of domination. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19

April 1998)

[According to Shri Mataji, the people who are humble and simply honest with

themselves and others, are oppressed]:

" The other side of it is people who are humble, who are simple, who are honest

and who are really seeking the Truth are being oppressed by this gentleman. He

oppresses them, tries to show off, tries to make slaves out of others. " (Shri

Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April 1998)

[shri Mataji says that people have gone so far that a whole group of people,

would not even move an inch, without the permission of their leader. She says

they would actually become subservient to such an irrational personality!]:

" I have seen people have gone so far, that there was a group of people who just

would not move even an inch without the permission of their leader and they

would go all out to be subservient to such an irrational personality. " (Shri

Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April 1998)

[shri Mataji Nirmala Devi says that what people need is to be enveloped by love

and compassion]:

" First of all you know this is the love of Mother. Mother never dominates, She

cannot dominate because She is nothing but love. As soon as She sees the

problem, immediately She absorbs. She has to make deliberations, just a drama

sometimes to show that She is angry. But She cannot basically be angry with

anyone. It's the love which all the time, all the time is flowing and that love

envelops the Mother as well as you. That is how you people understand Sahaja

Yoga. What a human being needs is nothing but love and compassion. Love and

compassion of a very, very pure type. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja -

Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April 1998)

[shri Mataji cites Christ Jesus as an example of compassion, for us to follow]:

" Look at Christ. He pitied the people who crucified Him. He told His father, God

almighty, that: " Please forgive them, because they don't know what they are

doing. " He could see that the blindness of these people are doing wrong things

and God the Father would be very annoyed who is wrathful and may destroy them.

So, this is what He has done with a very compassionate feeling without thinking

about it, just automatically He felt that: " These people are doing all this to

Me and I don't know what will happen to them. " So, He prayed to God, to Father:

" Please forgive, please forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing,

they are blind, so please do not punish them. " What compassion, what love! I

mean, think of it; do we do that in our life if somebody harms us, troubles us?

Do we ask Father to forgive those who do not know what they are doing? That

should be the level of Sahaja Yoga. And it will work out very well if you ask

for forgiveness, God will look after them, He'll transform them, He'll bring

them to their senses. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul,

Turkey - 19 April 1998)

[shri Mataji says that the messages of Christ are full of love, and pure

compassion. She cites the example of Mary-Magdalena]:

" The messages of Christ are full of love, compassion, pure compassion. How He

tried to protect Mary-Magdalena is an example of that, who was leading a sinful

life and for a saint He had nothing to do, He had nothing to do with her. But

when He saw she being stoned by people, He stood against them [for[ her. He took

a stone in His own hand and He says: " Alright those who have not committed any

wrong deed or have not committed any sin, can take this stone and hit Me " . And

nobody came forward, because they had to face themselves. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala

Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April 1998)

[shri Mataji says that there is a kind of cruel joy, when people are dominating

others, which She does not understand]:

" When we are dominating others, then a kind of a cruel joy is there, some sort

of a joy that I don't understand Myself. But people have, they show off, that:

" We have achieved this joy, we have achieved this great power. " (Shri Mataji

Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April 1998)

[shri Mataji explains that there has been this cruel joy with all the great

emperors and also with the despotic rulers, however She states that there is not

place for this in Sahaja Yoga]:

" It has happened for centuries with all the great emperors and also despotic

rulers. But with Sahaja Yogis it should be the other way round. They have to

rule the world with peace and love. They don't have to show off by any chance. "

(Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April 1998)

[shri Mataji Nirmala Devi states that Sahaja Yoga will spread much faster, when

the world is given only love and affection. She says that torturing others,

troubling others, as already described, is actually very abnormal behaviour,

that has to be returned to normalcy!]:

" This is how Sahaja Yoga will spread much, much faster. What does the world

need? Just think of it. It needs only love and affection. Those people who are

yet lost in the ignorance about life and are still busy troubling others,

torturing others, going against the collectivity will have to return to

normalcy. It's very abnormal behaviour sometimes and you just don't understand

why they behave like mad people. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja -

Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April 1998)

[shri Mataji states that it is very difficult to tell such people, that they are

mad, and that it is also very difficult to be in their presence. She says this

goes on with so many Sahaja Yogis]:

" It is very difficult also to tell such people that you are mad. And also it is

difficult to be with such a person who is so mad with some sort of a power. It

goes on like that with so many Sahaja Yogis, I have seen who start thinking they

have lots of powers, they think they can do whatever they like, they can talk to

anyone and they can confuse anyone. But in Sahaja Yoga, you don't have to

confuse. You have to clearly express your love. But that doesn't mean any kind

of particular gesture for a particular happening, but it is just an inner

oneness with each other. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul,

Turkey - 19 April 1998)

[However, when Shri Mataji sees Sahaja Yogis understanding each other, so loving

with each other, and beautifully enjoying the love of other people, She says

that She is absolutely overjoyed to see that. She says that the most enjoyable

thing, is the love we give to others, and not that we are there to receive, as

such, but to give love. She says that perhaps, the way we express ourselves is

also an art, in that we come to understand, how to please others and make them

happy]:

" Sometimes I find Sahaja Yogis so much understanding each other, so much loving

each other, so beautifully enjoying the love of other people. When I see that, I

feel very, very happy, absolutely overjoyed that what I wanted, these people

should enjoy is that. And you'll be amazed the most enjoyable thing is the love

that you give to others. You may not receive, but when you give love to others,

then it is the most enjoyable thing. But the way you express yourself is also an

art I think, to understand how to please others, how to make them happy. " (Shri

Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April 1998)

(Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April 1998)

May 27, 2007

please don't use any kind of shortcuts to write Her name. It's not a sort of modern culture. Others do it with names of popes, as well. It seems to be a genuine modern trend. Of course it's not important. Don't believe in sahaja yoga. HANG ON TO ME (Shri Mataji)

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