Guest guest Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 " Kundalini will rise and She will cleanse you completely. Kundalini will rise and always cleanse the chakras " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi So why are the vast majority of SYs catching, and their chakras spoiled, again and again? Is it because they do not have the means/IQ/proper guidance to introspect the corruption of Her teachings and the corrupters who have invented the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion to replace Her Message and Vision? Are the 1001 cleansing innovations, the majority devised by SYs themselves, responsible for the catches? Maybe these SYs should introspect what Shri Mataji means by " Kundalini will rise and She will cleanse you completely " . Just want to emphasize _completely_. My question: Why invent/follow cleansing rituals when the Kundalini will always cleanse the chakras completely? jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 And for years i have been telling SYs that the Kundalini is far more powerful than the lemons and chillies. Even on www.adishakti.org i was sure of the Mother Kundalini clearing all catches and cleansing the subtle system just with mere attention: GENERAL ADVICE FROM SHRI MATAJI The most effective is to put attention on the affected chakra during meditation and allow the Mother Kundalini to heal. Remain in the thoughtless state while you work on the affected chakra http://adishakti.org/subtle_system/mooladhara_chakra.htm And today i have proof that Shri Mataji did say that the Kundalini clears and cleanses all chakras completely ....... always. i assure all that i am very confident that all that i have written over the years at the sites/forum cannot be contradicted or proven false. That is why i am not going to keep repeating as to why Jagbir does this or that: /message/7937 After the above post i decided that since i have drifted so far from the shore i will be wasting my time hollering the same answers over and over and over again. From that distance they will not hear my answers. So what is the point of me getting into a shouting match? BTW, most answers are already archived. i cannot and do not want to waste my time and attention any more just stating the already stated. There is just too much work to be done. regards to all, jagbir , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > " Kundalini will rise and She will cleanse you completely. Kundalini > will rise and always cleanse the chakras " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > So why are the vast majority of SYs catching, and their chakras spoiled, > again and again? Is it because they do not have the means/IQ/proper > guidance to introspect the corruption of Her teachings and the > corrupters who have invented the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion to > replace Her Message and Vision? Are the 1001 cleansing innovations, the > majority devised by SYs themselves, responsible for the catches? > > Maybe these SYs should introspect what Shri Mataji means by > " Kundalini will rise and She will cleanse you completely " . Just want > to emphasize _completely_. My question: Why invent/follow cleansing > rituals when the Kundalini will always cleanse the chakras completely? > > jagbir > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: " Why invent/follow cleansing rituals when the Kundalini will always cleanse the chakras completely? " Dear Jagbir and All, i believe it is people who are too lazy to introspect, who would rather invent/follow cleansing rituals, because it is the easy way out. Facing one's self, his ego and conditionings, is one of the hardest tasks in the world. A person really has to want to do that. Otherwise, it just doesn't happen. The Kundalini will have too hard a job to do, if the person does not do their work of introspection. She cannot sustain it by Herself, if the person does not cooperate fully in the task also. So, that is why i think that people invent/follow cleansing rituals. They are just not prepared to do the hard work, required to have Kundalini always cleansing the chakras completely. regards, violet > And for years i have been telling SYs that the Kundalini is far more > powerful than the lemons and chillies. Even on www.adishakti.org i > was sure of the Mother Kundalini clearing all catches and cleansing > the subtle system just with mere attention: > > GENERAL ADVICE FROM SHRI MATAJI > > The most effective is to put attention on the affected chakra during > meditation and allow the Mother Kundalini to heal. Remain in the > thoughtless state while you work on the affected chakra > > http://adishakti.org/subtle_system/mooladhara_chakra.htm > > And today i have proof that Shri Mataji did say that the Kundalini > clears and cleanses all chakras completely ....... always. > > i assure all that i am very confident that all that i have written > over the years at the sites/forum cannot be contradicted or proven > false. That is why i am not going to keep repeating as to why Jagbir > does this or that: > > /message/7937 > > After the above post i decided that since i have drifted so far > from the shore i will be wasting my time hollering the same answers > over and over and over again. From that distance they will not hear > my answers. So what is the point of me getting into a shouting match? > > BTW, most answers are already archived. i cannot and do not want to > waste my time and attention any more just stating the already stated. > There is just too much work to be done. > > regards to all, > > jagbir > > > , " jagbir singh " > <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > " Kundalini will rise and She will cleanse you completely. Kundalini > > will rise and always cleanse the chakras " > > > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > > > So why are the vast majority of SYs catching, and their chakras > spoiled, > > again and again? Is it because they do not have the means/IQ/ proper > > guidance to introspect the corruption of Her teachings and the > > corrupters who have invented the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion > to > > replace Her Message and Vision? Are the 1001 cleansing innovations, > the > > majority devised by SYs themselves, responsible for the catches? > > > > Maybe these SYs should introspect what Shri Mataji means by > > " Kundalini will rise and She will cleanse you completely " . Just want > > to emphasize _completely_. My question: Why invent/follow cleansing > > rituals when the Kundalini will always cleanse the chakras > completely? > > > > jagbir > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 > > So why are the vast majority of SYs catching, and their chakras > spoiled, again and again? Is it because they do not have the > means/IQ/proper guidance to introspect the corruption of Her > teachings and the corrupters who have invented the Sahaja Yoga > Subtle System Religion to replace Her Message and Vision? Are the > 1001 cleansing innovations, the majority devised by SYs themselves, > responsible for the catches? > Official Sahaja Yoga is a culture of catches and cures, whether at home, collective meditations or pujas. The life of subtle system SYs revolves around this culture - there are 1001 cleansing rituals for all sorts of diseases of the mind and body. There more they indulge in these rituals the more susceptible they are to ever more exotic catches ............. involving two or more chakras catching. What turns this mental mess into madness are the countless UPIs, badhas and all sorts of evil entities (negativity) attacking SYs day and night from every nook and cranny. But only when you start practising Silence on Self and begin introspecting and testing the esoteric knowledge and experience of merging with the Devi will this official Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion culture of catches and cures repulse you. The Devi within shields you from such avidya by making sure the Mother Kundalini cleanses your subtle system on a 24/7 basis. You will always be catch- free, with even the strongest catches disappearing within minutes. (Most subtle system SYs will find this hard to believe.) i keep saying that i am ever drifitng away from the stagnant subtle system shore. Only when you are completely free of all external rituals/images and meditating exclusively on the Devi within will you begin understanding and experiencing what i am trying to say. i am both appalled and humiliated by the shallowness and ignorance of SYs of the stagnant subtle system shore who want to emancipate the world with their comprehension of Self-realization. More than a decade ago i was embarrassed (by Sahaja Yoga subtle system cathes and rituals) to join the local collective and give Self- realization to the public. Today, after finally realizing on my own that Devi is my Self, i wish no seeker in future suffers the same fate and misfortune of wasted time, effort and faith. The main reason this Self-realization was possible is because i completely discarded the official Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion of 1001 external cleansing rituals. i also knew over the years that Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi is only the incarnation of the eternal Devi within. Both reasons contradict what is practised/believed by most SYs and myself. Yet another contradiction is the Mother Kundalini's inability to heal SYs, despite Shri Mataji's assurance that it will always cure at all times, and completely too. Thus, unlike myself, they need cleansing supplements on a daily basis for the rest of their lives. That being the case, it is obvious that the knowledge, comprehension and experience of Self-realization between SYs and myself must also be contradictory. Intropsect these contradictions and you will realize that something is wrong indeed .......... disturbingly wrong. regards to all, jagbir , " Violet " <violet.tubb wrote: > > , " jagbir > singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > " Why invent/follow cleansing rituals when the Kundalini will always > cleanse the chakras completely? " > > Dear Jagbir and All, > > i believe it is people who are too lazy to introspect, who would rather invent/follow cleansing rituals, because it is the easy way out. Facing one's self, his ego and conditionings, is one of the hardest tasks in the world. A person really has to want to do that. Otherwise, it just doesn't happen. The Kundalini will have too hard a job to do, if the person does not do their work of introspection. She cannot sustain it by Herself, if the person does not cooperate fully in the task also. So, that is why i think that people invent/follow cleansing rituals. They are just not prepared to do the hard work, required to have Kundalini always cleansing the chakras completely. > > regards, > > violet > > > > > And for years i have been telling SYs that the Kundalini is far more powerful than the lemons and chillies. Even on www.adishakti.org i was sure of the Mother Kundalini clearing all catches and cleansing the subtle system just with mere attention: > > > > GENERAL ADVICE FROM SHRI MATAJI > > > > The most effective is to put attention on the affected chakra during meditation and allow the Mother Kundalini to heal. Remain in the thoughtless state while you work on the affected chakra > > > > http://adishakti.org/subtle_system/mooladhara_chakra.htm > > > > And today i have proof that Shri Mataji did say that the Kundalini > > clears and cleanses all chakras completely ....... always. > > > > i assure all that i am very confident that all that i have written > > over the years at the sites/forum cannot be contradicted or proven > > false. That is why i am not going to keep repeating as to why Jagbir does this or that: > > > > /message/7937 > > > > After the above post i decided that since i have drifted so far > > from the shore i will be wasting my time hollering the same answers over and over and over again. From that distance they will not hear my answers. So what is the point of me getting into a shouting > match? > > > > BTW, most answers are already archived. i cannot and do not want to waste my time and attention any more just stating the already > stated. There is just too much work to be done. > > > > regards to all, > > > > jagbir > > > > > > , " jagbir singh " > > <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > > > " Kundalini will rise and She will cleanse you completely. > Kundalini will rise and always cleanse the chakras " > > > > > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > > > > > So why are the vast majority of SYs catching, and their chakras > > spoiled, again and again? Is it because they do not have the means/IQ/proper guidance to introspect the corruption of Her teachings and the corrupters who have invented the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion to replace Her Message and Vision? Are the 1001 cleansing innovations, the majority devised by SYs themselves, responsible for the catches? > > > > > > Maybe these SYs should introspect what Shri Mataji means by > > > " Kundalini will rise and She will cleanse you completely " . Just > want to emphasize _completely_. My question: Why invent/follow > cleansing rituals when the Kundalini will always cleanse the chakras > > completely? > > > > > > jagbir > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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