Guest guest Posted June 5, 2007 Report Posted June 5, 2007 Dear Violet and All, i am really surprised that you were looking for the Divine Mother despite your Christian patriarchal background. Contrary to popular believe, most Hindus, Buddhists and Sikhs pay homage to the same despite the feminine presence entrenched in their traditions. But that is not the case of Judaism, Christianity and Islam where the Divine is always regarded/portrayed as masculine. So i am surprised that despite that serious handicap you were searching for the Holy Spirit which, despite the odds, you knew was feminine. So it is evident that over the millennia a male dominated society enforced a patriarchal deity. The Divine Feminine is only making Her presence known, again, in this Age of the Spirit. This is how i found Her: " Despite all this infamy and shameless decadence, Kash's father still adamantly refused to seek Him in any of His Houses of Worship. How could the Almighty Creator exist in these putrid pools of organized hypocrisy and institutionalized falsehood? Can't He be found anywhere else? Why does He force humans to seek Him only in these religious regimes professing His exclusive Grace? Which particular one, then, does He preside? What proof do the high priests of these Evening Empires have to convince the religious herd that only by exclusively praying and prostrating inside their sprawling religious ranches will God Almighty save them? How is it possible that he favored any religious regime that deny his other Messengers? No! this deity cannot be God Almighty! He has to be one of the lesser gods worshipped by existing religious tribes - a Hindu prabhu, a Jewish yahweh, a Christian god, an Islamic allah, a Buddhist buddha, a Sikh waheguru. And Kash's father would have to again continue the search for the Absolute Truth that would destroy all doubts, discrepancies, delusions, and darkness. In the end this spiritual song imploring the Almighty Creator to remove the veil of ignorance was sung again, and again, and again: O ek suki yaha lakoh mein. Oh, only one in a hundred thousand is in bliss. Ansoo hai croroh ankhoh mein. There are tears in tens of millions of eyes. Hum neh gin gin har takdir dekhi. I have counted and seen every fate for years, Ek hasta hai dush rote hai Only one laughs while ten are in tears. Kuch bhol Prabhu yeh kya Maya O! Speak Almighty God what is this Illusion, Tera khel samaj meh nah aya Your Divine Play is all confusion and delusion. For weeks the Almighty Creator was implored, amid a profusion of tears, to reveal the Truth. Again and again, and yet again He was beseeched to answer the meaning of life, creation, and this useless empty human existence. Above all, He was begged for the Truth that would destroy the falsehood that the religious regimes had deluded him and the rest of humanity. What was desired was the Absolute Truth of God Almighty, not the conflicting gods of various organized religions. Any god that could not explain and account for the other Messengers would not be God. Any yahweh that only cared for his kind would not be Yahweh. Any god that professed that salvation was available only in churches would not be God. Any allah that had only one messenger would not be Allah. Any prabhu that was found only in a single scripture would not be Prabhu. The plea for help was addressed directly to the one and only God Almighty and not to any gods of the organized religions. " Shri Adi Shakti: The Kingdom Of God, page 50 http://www.adishakti.org/introduction.htm To cut a long story short, i was told to join Shri Mataji. Over time i realized that She is the incarnation of the Divine Feminine, the later entrenched in all the holy scriptures. But how will the Divine Feminine triumph against all the odds stacked against Her? How will She overcome the male-dominated temples, synagogues, churches, mosques and gurdwaras? How will She convince their followers that the visible, creative power of God Almighty is the Divine Feminine? It is both simple and extremely effective - She is the bearer of the Last Judgment and Resurrection! She is the Comforter who announces the commencement of the Last Judgment. She is the Ruh who sets forth the Sure Signs of Al-Qiyamah. She is the Divine Mother (Adi Shakti or Holy Spirit) who gives the pure knowledge of liberation and eternal life. She is the Inner Guru who illumines and guides all souls bound for the Kingdom of God. She is the Divine Feminine on whom all liberated souls and messengers of God meditate in Heaven. She is the Self that must be realized. She is the omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscience aspect of God Almighty. Thus the deeply-divided male-dominated temples, synagogues, churches, mosques and gurdwaras have been made impotent almost overnight by Her. Just introspect and contemplate on the above paragraph and you will realize the sheer brilliance and effectiveness of the Divine Mother's incarnation in overcoming these institutions. She is the only medium through whom the eschatological promises and Sure Signs of the Bible and Qur'an is being fulfilled. She is the Adi Shakti who promises moksa and eternal life to all who meditate and merge with Her in their Sahasraras. She is the Aykaa Mayee who created Shri Brahman, Vishnu and Shiva. She is the Mother Kundalini who rises up to the Sahasrara and opens the Dsam Dwar. She is the Comforter promised by Jesus Christ to complete His teachings. She is the Ruh who triggers the Winds of Qiyamah. She is the Ruach, the Breath of God Almighty that those born of the Spirit feel on their hands and head upon second birth. She is the Divine Feminine - Adi Shakti, Shekinah, Ruach, Holy Spirit, Ruh, Tao, Prajnaparamita, Aykaa Mayee, Great Mother Spirit - one and the same for all traditions. Entrenched in all religions, She leaves no choice for those looking to their 'male gods' for salvation and liberation. The rival male- dominated temples, synagogues, churches, mosques and gurdwaras have been rendered barren. The Divine Feminine has revealed that you need not set foot in any of them to seek the Divine because the Temple/ Kingdom of God is within. You need not even walk a single step in any direction--nor worship any of their man-made images or rituals- -as She is within to comfort, guide and meditate with at all times. Then what is left for the bitterly divided religious institutions to offer now? Other than the security and collectivity of numbers, little else. That is why the male-dominated institutions are now barren and impotent. The sun is indeed setting on these evening empires. We are at the earliest hour of the Dawn of the Divine Feminine. We are witnessing the most sacred time in the history of this universe. Savor your priceless presence and blessings with the humility and serenity of Silence. We are all returning to our Eternal Home. Peace and Joy to all, jagbir , " Violet " <violet.tubb wrote: > > , " jagbir > singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > " As She has said, " You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you. " That is absolutely true Shri Mataji! May i for all eternity be prostrated and seeking refuge at Your Lotus Feet Mother! " > > Dear Jagbir and All, > > i also say " Mother, may we be at Your Lotus Feet for all eternity. There is no more blissful place! We are just so fortunate that Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi has come to introduce us to our individual Mother, who is within us. How else would be be sure? It is one thing to hear the voice of the Mother within; it is another thing to have the Christian Comforter confirm the presence of the individual Mother within, and introduce us to Her. > > i remember before i came to Sahaj, i read about the Divine Mother, and realised that there is a Divine Mother, as well as a Divine Father, but it had never been taught to me as such, in Christianity. The Christian teaching did not satisfy my soul, as did the esoteric teachings of the Hindus and Buddhists, etc. One day, when i was in contemplation and prayer, i asked the Mother (since i knew there is a Mother) to be with me, guide me, and so forth. i was very anguished and eager to get into connection with My Mother, i was pleading to Her to help me get out of the illusion of this world, and into the reality of the Spirit. After all my pleadings, i became very silent, and to my wonder, i heard this feminine voice from within, telling me that i was Her child, and that She would look after me!!! Wonder, amazement, tears, and overwhelming love filled me, and i held on to Her hand, to guide me. i knew i would be OK, in this world of greatest illusion, that i had found my Comforter!!! It was not long after that, that i saw Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's face in a poster, smiling at me, and the poster was just across the street on a bus stop, when i looked out my front door (where i was living at that time). i told my husband (ex-husband now) that i wanted to go and see this lady, but he would not let me go. A few years later, after the Divine had worked out a new marital relationship for me, where i could pursue deep spirituality, one day i went for a Free Meditation Class, on the Central Coast of N.S.W. It was Sahaja Yoga. i recognised the picture of " the Mother " i had seen, who had been described on the poster as " the greatest living Spiritual Teacher " , and whose photo had been on a poster, when i had looked out the front door! That is how i have come to Sahaja Yoga, and have never looked back, as She is in my heart, and Sahaja Yoga is with me, wherever i go; it is not confined to any particular place, but in the heart, in the temple within! i am just so grateful, is all i can say. > > And as we have more sisters joining us (and brothers too) but i am referring to Nicole and Gerlinde especially just now, i am overwhelmed with joy that our Forum Family Fellowship is growing, and that its spiritual vibrations, when we are as one family, will grow in love, and the love of Shri Mataji (which She has awakened within us) will spread to the whole world. People will know that we are of God, because of the love we have for one another. > > That is the kind of family that others will want to join also, where we are kind, loving, helpful, and growing spiritually together. > > So, Welcome Nicole and Gerlinde, as our New Moderators!!! > > love and best wishes to all, > > violet > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > We have appointed two new moderators for this forum - Nicole and > > Gerlinde. This will not only enable posts to be approved quickly > but > > also allow Violet and myself to be more free i.e., we will not need > > to check posts that often. i also believe that both Nicole and > > Gerlinde will enrich the forum and should be allowed to approve > their > > own posts immediately i.e., by being moderators. > > > > i also want to take this opportunity to thank Violet for all the > > time, effort and dedication corresponding with various seekers and > > answering emails etc. To be honest, it was me who requested her to > > take on this extra, time-consuming duty which she accepted with a > > smile. That enabled me to be more focused and energetic. Of course, > > all this help makes it easier to remain Silent ........... a key > > requirement for obtaining answers. > > > > Some members of this Forum Family (thanks Violet for coining this) > > have expressed their gratitude and thanks that this forum has not > > only filled them with new knowledge but also enabled better > > comprehension of the old. i too am enriched, and at times amazed by > > the knowledge. Today i know that Jesus was dead serious about > > plucking out the evil eye for the sake of salvation when the final > > judgment is announced. It is not a figure of speech. All this new > > knowledge and its introspection only nourishes and grounds my roots > > of faith deeper. i know beyond all doubts that life is eternal, and > > that i will return to the Kingdom of God where all the incarnations > > and countless liberated souls live. So will all who strive with > mind, > > body and soul during this promised Blossom Time that the Comforter > > has proclaimed and explained. As She has said, " You cannot know the > > meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that > > created you. " That is absolutely true Shri Mataji! May i for all > > eternity be prostrated and seeking refuge at Your Lotus Feet > Mother! > > > > Peace and Joy to all, > > > > jagbir > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2007 Report Posted June 5, 2007 , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: " i am really surprised that you were looking for the Divine Mother despite your Christian patriarchal background. Contrary to popular believe, most Hindus, Buddhists and Sikhs pay homage to the same despite the feminine presence entrenched in their traditions. But that is not the case of Judaism, Christianity and Islam where the Divine is always regarded/portrayed as masculine. So i am surprised that despite that serious handicap you were searching for the Holy Spirit which, despite the odds, you knew was feminine. So it is evident that over the millennia a male dominated society enforced a patriarchal deity. The Divine Feminine is only making Her presence known, again, in this Age of the Spirit. " Dear Jagbir and All, To be honest, i took a chance on the Mother, because of what i had read and believed in non-Christian scriptures and literature. i took a step of faith in Her, even though i was not knowledgable about Her, as i am now through Sahaja Yoga. i did not know the connection between the Mother and the Holy Spirit at that time. That is why, when i heard the feminine voice within the Silence, i was quite taken aback!!! This is because, in Christianity i had been taught that Christ Jesus is both our Father and our Mother, so if i had heard a voice, it should have been a masculine voice, and not a feminine one! That's why the " feminine voice within " quite startled me, but i had never experienced such amazing love, the love of a Mother!!! i will never forget my first experience of Her. No matter what happened after that, i would and could turn to Her!!! Of course, i was very surprised to find Her. i had no frame of reference from the Christian teachings for Her though. It was a gnostic experience, for which i had no spiritual identity for Her, other than my spiritual Mother within. That much i admitted, it must be! That is also why, i have grasped firmly on to Shri Mataji's teaching of the " individual Mother Within " so strongly, because i had already met Her, though did not know about Her actual spiritual eschatology. This is because, in Christianity, Her existence and identity had been obscured almost completely. In Christianity, i was taught that when i pray to the Father, that i am actually praying to Christ Jesus. i was also taught that when i pray to the Holy Spirit, that i was in fact, praying to Christ Jesus. Then i would also pray to Christ Jesus Himself! So in Christianity, Christ Jesus is " All in All " ... God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit!!! Having all three identities in the one person, however, can make the Christian scriptures very confusing and illogical in places. An example is, if Christ Jesus is God the Father, as Christianity teaches, why does He bother to pray to Himself in the Lord's Prayer, when He says: " Our Father who art in heaven " ? i have never heard of God the Father praying to Himself! i have only heard of people praying to God, and not God praying to Himself! So, i had to work through this Christian maze of confusion, created by man. i soon learned that it was best just to follow Christ's instructions for a spiritual seeker, which is to " seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened. " It is a Gnostic teaching. If i remember correctly though, traditional institutionalised Christianity takes a dim view of Gnosticism, and yet Christ Jesus was the greatest Gnostic!!! You just have to study His teachings, to discover this fact. So, it can be quite comical, if you try to work this 'maze' out. When a person is a real spiritual seeker, he refuses to dispenses with intelligence and logic, because the Spirit Within is pure intelligence and pure logic, which are also spiritual qualities, that guide a person. This is inbuilt. If a person does not use his God-given intelligence and logic, he becomes spiritually foolish, instead of a wise person. i would love to know, where Christ Jesus ever expected a person to believe in Him 'blindly'. Instead, Christ always created faith in people, that connvinced and assured people, that what He was saying, was the Truth of God. They accepted Him. This was not a blind faith! If Christians really study the Scriptures, they will find that the real kind of faith is not a 'blind belief or faith' but a real faith, that is based upon the assurance and conviction that comes from an inner knowing (a.k.a. " gnosticism " ). This inner knowing comes from the " Spirit within " . It is not seen by others, but it convinces and assures a person, and as a result, they have faith in what they have been assured and convinced of. The Scriptures do describe " real faith " : " Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. " (Hebrews 11:1) So people must stop accepting confusion and illogical teachings blindly, which religious regimes have a tendancy, to enforce on people, as if they were a group of robots, rather than individual Spirits. All religious regimes seem to make up illogical spiritual teachings around the Incarnation's teachings, and then expect intelligent people to believe their devised teachings, without questioning. And now they expect Sahaja Yogis to believe the SYSSR, without questioning. It has therefore become another religious regime, that will also crumble. The only religious regime that will remain in the end, is the Kingdom of God Within. In this Kingdom of God, the Divine Feminine is now revealing the Truth, in the Silence Within and many are listening to Her. That is why it is also important to make known, that She is in all the Scriptures. Otherwise, how will people know this fact, which brings spiritual confidence. regards to all, violet > Dear Violet and All, > > i am really surprised that you were looking for the Divine Mother > despite your Christian patriarchal background. Contrary to popular > believe, most Hindus, Buddhists and Sikhs pay homage to the same > despite the feminine presence entrenched in their traditions. But > that is not the case of Judaism, Christianity and Islam where the > Divine is always regarded/portrayed as masculine. So i am surprised > that despite that serious handicap you were searching for the Holy > Spirit which, despite the odds, you knew was feminine. So it is > evident that over the millennia a male dominated society enforced a > patriarchal deity. The Divine Feminine is only making Her presence > known, again, in this Age of the Spirit. > > This is how i found Her: > > " Despite all this infamy and shameless decadence, Kash's father still > adamantly refused to seek Him in any of His Houses of Worship. How > could the Almighty Creator exist in these putrid pools of organized > hypocrisy and institutionalized falsehood? Can't He be found anywhere > else? Why does He force humans to seek Him only in these religious > regimes professing His exclusive Grace? Which particular one, then, > does He preside? What proof do the high priests of these Evening > Empires have to convince the religious herd that only by exclusively > praying and prostrating inside their sprawling religious ranches will > God Almighty save them? How is it possible that he favored any > religious regime that deny his other Messengers? > > No! this deity cannot be God Almighty! He has to be one of the lesser > gods worshipped by existing religious tribes - a Hindu prabhu, a > Jewish yahweh, a Christian god, an Islamic allah, a Buddhist buddha, > a Sikh waheguru. > > And Kash's father would have to again continue the search for the > Absolute Truth that would destroy all doubts, discrepancies, > delusions, and darkness. > > In the end this spiritual song imploring the Almighty Creator to > remove the veil of ignorance was sung again, and again, and again: > > O ek suki yaha lakoh mein. > Oh, only one in a hundred thousand is in bliss. > > Ansoo hai croroh ankhoh mein. > There are tears in tens of millions of eyes. > > Hum neh gin gin har takdir dekhi. > I have counted and seen every fate for years, > > Ek hasta hai dush rote hai > Only one laughs while ten are in tears. > > Kuch bhol Prabhu yeh kya Maya > O! Speak Almighty God what is this Illusion, > > Tera khel samaj meh nah aya > Your Divine Play is all confusion and delusion. > > For weeks the Almighty Creator was implored, amid a profusion of > tears, to reveal the Truth. Again and again, and yet again He was > beseeched to answer the meaning of life, creation, and this useless > empty human existence. Above all, He was begged for the Truth that > would destroy the falsehood that the religious regimes had deluded > him and the rest of humanity. > > What was desired was the Absolute Truth of God Almighty, not the > conflicting gods of various organized religions. Any god that could > not explain and account for the other Messengers would not be God. > Any yahweh that only cared for his kind would not be Yahweh. Any god > that professed that salvation was available only in churches would > not be God. Any allah that had only one messenger would not be Allah. > Any prabhu that was found only in a single scripture would not be > Prabhu. The plea for help was addressed directly to the one and only > God Almighty and not to any gods of the organized religions. " > > Shri Adi Shakti: The Kingdom Of God, page 50 > http://www.adishakti.org/introduction.htm > > To cut a long story short, i was told to join Shri Mataji. Over time > i realized that She is the incarnation of the Divine Feminine, the > later entrenched in all the holy scriptures. > > But how will the Divine Feminine triumph against all the odds stacked > against Her? How will She overcome the male-dominated temples, > synagogues, churches, mosques and gurdwaras? How will She convince > their followers that the visible, creative power of God Almighty is > the Divine Feminine? > > It is both simple and extremely effective - She is the bearer of the > Last Judgment and Resurrection! She is the Comforter who announces > the commencement of the Last Judgment. She is the Ruh who sets forth > the Sure Signs of Al-Qiyamah. She is the Divine Mother (Adi Shakti or > Holy Spirit) who gives the pure knowledge of liberation and eternal > life. She is the Inner Guru who illumines and guides all souls bound > for the Kingdom of God. She is the Divine Feminine on whom all > liberated souls and messengers of God meditate in Heaven. She is the > Self that must be realized. She is the omnipotent, omnipresent and > omniscience aspect of God Almighty. > > Thus the deeply-divided male-dominated temples, synagogues, churches, > mosques and gurdwaras have been made impotent almost overnight by > Her. Just introspect and contemplate on the above paragraph and you > will realize the sheer brilliance and effectiveness of the Divine > Mother's incarnation in overcoming these institutions. She is the only > medium through whom the eschatological promises and Sure Signs of the > Bible and Qur'an is being fulfilled. She is the Adi Shakti who > promises moksa and eternal life to all who meditate and merge with > Her in their Sahasraras. She is the Aykaa Mayee who created Shri > Brahman, Vishnu and Shiva. She is the Mother Kundalini who rises up > to the Sahasrara and opens the Dsam Dwar. She is the Comforter > promised by Jesus Christ to complete His teachings. She is the Ruh > who triggers the Winds of Qiyamah. She is the Ruach, the Breath of > God Almighty that those born of the Spirit feel on their hands and > head upon second birth. She is the Divine Feminine - Adi Shakti, > Shekinah, Ruach, Holy Spirit, Ruh, Tao, Prajnaparamita, Aykaa Mayee, > Great Mother Spirit - one and the same for all traditions. > > Entrenched in all religions, She leaves no choice for those looking > to their 'male gods' for salvation and liberation. The rival male- > dominated temples, synagogues, churches, mosques and gurdwaras have > been rendered barren. The Divine Feminine has revealed that you need > not set foot in any of them to seek the Divine because the Temple/ > Kingdom of God is within. You need not even walk a single step > in any direction--nor worship any of their man-made images or rituals- > -as She is within to comfort, guide and meditate with at all times. > > Then what is left for the bitterly divided religious institutions to > offer now? Other than the security and collectivity of numbers, little > else. That is why the male-dominated institutions are now barren and > impotent. The sun is indeed setting on these evening empires. > > We are at the earliest hour of the Dawn of the Divine Feminine. We > are witnessing the most sacred time in the history of this universe. > Savor your priceless presence and blessings with the humility and > serenity of Silence. We are all returning to our Eternal Home. > > Peace and Joy to all, > > jagbir > > > > , " Violet " > <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > > > , " jagbir > > singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > " As She has said, " You cannot know the meaning of your life until > you are connected to the power that created you. " That is absolutely > true Shri Mataji! May i for all eternity be prostrated and seeking > refuge at Your Lotus Feet Mother! " > > > > Dear Jagbir and All, > > > > i also say " Mother, may we be at Your Lotus Feet for all eternity. > There is no more blissful place! We are just so fortunate that Shri > Mataji Nirmala Devi has come to introduce us to our individual > Mother, who is within us. How else would be be sure? It is one thing > to hear the voice of the Mother within; it is another thing to have > the Christian Comforter confirm the presence of the individual Mother > within, and introduce us to Her. > > > > i remember before i came to Sahaj, i read about the Divine Mother, > and realised that there is a Divine Mother, as well as a Divine > Father, but it had never been taught to me as such, in Christianity. > The Christian teaching did not satisfy my soul, as did the esoteric > teachings of the Hindus and Buddhists, etc. One day, when i was in > contemplation and prayer, i asked the Mother (since i knew there is a > Mother) to be with me, guide me, and so forth. i was very anguished > and eager to get into connection with My Mother, i was pleading to > Her to help me get out of the illusion of this world, and into the > reality of the Spirit. After all my pleadings, i became very silent, > and to my wonder, i heard this feminine voice from within, telling me > that i was Her child, and that She would look after me!!! Wonder, > amazement, tears, and overwhelming love filled me, and i held on to > Her hand, to guide me. i knew i would be OK, in this world of > greatest illusion, that i had found my Comforter!!! It was not long > after that, that i saw Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's face in a poster, > smiling at me, and the poster was just across the street on a bus > stop, when i looked out my front door (where i was living at that > time). i told my husband (ex-husband now) that i wanted to go and see > this lady, but he would not let me go. A few years later, after the > Divine had worked out a new marital relationship for me, where i > could pursue deep spirituality, one day i went for a Free Meditation > Class, on the Central Coast of N.S.W. It was Sahaja Yoga. i > recognised the picture of " the Mother " i had seen, who had been > described on the poster as " the greatest living Spiritual Teacher " , > and whose photo had been on a poster, when i had looked out the front > door! That is how i have come to Sahaja Yoga, and have never looked > back, as She is in my heart, and Sahaja Yoga is with me, wherever i > go; it is not confined to any particular place, but in the heart, in > the temple within! i am just so grateful, is all i can say. > > > > And as we have more sisters joining us (and brothers too) but i am > referring to Nicole and Gerlinde especially just now, i am > overwhelmed with joy that our Forum Family Fellowship is growing, and > that its spiritual vibrations, when we are as one family, will grow > in love, and the love of Shri Mataji (which She has awakened within > us) will spread to the whole world. People will know that we are of > God, because of the love we have for one another. > > > > That is the kind of family that others will want to join also, > where we are kind, loving, helpful, and growing spiritually together. > > > > So, Welcome Nicole and Gerlinde, as our New Moderators!!! > > > > love and best wishes to all, > > > > violet > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > We have appointed two new moderators for this forum - Nicole and > > > Gerlinde. This will not only enable posts to be approved quickly > > but > > > also allow Violet and myself to be more free i.e., we will not > need > > > to check posts that often. i also believe that both Nicole and > > > Gerlinde will enrich the forum and should be allowed to approve > > their > > > own posts immediately i.e., by being moderators. > > > > > > i also want to take this opportunity to thank Violet for all the > > > time, effort and dedication corresponding with various seekers and > > > answering emails etc. To be honest, it was me who requested her to > > > take on this extra, time-consuming duty which she accepted with a > > > smile. That enabled me to be more focused and energetic. Of > course, > > > all this help makes it easier to remain Silent ........... a key > > > requirement for obtaining answers. > > > > > > Some members of this Forum Family (thanks Violet for coining this) > > > have expressed their gratitude and thanks that this forum has not > > > only filled them with new knowledge but also enabled better > > > comprehension of the old. i too am enriched, and at times amazed > by > > > the knowledge. Today i know that Jesus was dead serious about > > > plucking out the evil eye for the sake of salvation when the final > > > judgment is announced. It is not a figure of speech. All this new > > > knowledge and its introspection only nourishes and grounds my > roots > > > of faith deeper. i know beyond all doubts that life is eternal, > and > > > that i will return to the Kingdom of God where all the > incarnations > > > and countless liberated souls live. So will all who strive with > > mind, > > > body and soul during this promised Blossom Time that the Comforter > > > has proclaimed and explained. As She has said, " You cannot know > the > > > meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that > > > created you. " That is absolutely true Shri Mataji! May i for all > > > eternity be prostrated and seeking refuge at Your Lotus Feet > > Mother! > > > > > > Peace and Joy to all, > > > > > > jagbir > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Posted June 6, 2007 Dear Violet, It is obvious that your gnostic experience is based on the Truth that is now the very foundation of your faith, as it is for me. After reading the rest of your post i realize how confusing it is to understand the Bible regarding the nature of God Almighty. To regard Jesus Christ as God, Son and Holy Spirit just makes no sense, all the more when Jesus Himself never claimed so. No wonder my son said the same when i asked him to take up Catholic classes. Now i understand the Christian religious mindset better. All these various religions have over the millennia produced 1001 mindsets that conflict and contradict each other, and yet Jews, Christians and Muslims claim to be the chosen ones to the exclusion of all others. It is such a depressing topic. warmest regards, jagbir , " Violet " <violet.tubb wrote: > > , " jagbir > singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > " i am really surprised that you were looking for the Divine Mother despite your Christian patriarchal background. Contrary to popular believe, most Hindus, Buddhists and Sikhs pay homage to the same despite the feminine presence entrenched in their traditions. But that is not the case of Judaism, Christianity and Islam where the Divine is always regarded/portrayed as masculine. So i am surprised that despite that serious handicap you were searching for the Holy Spirit which, despite the odds, you knew was feminine. So it is evident that over the millennia a male dominated society enforced a patriarchal deity. The Divine Feminine is only making Her presence known, again, in this Age of the Spirit. " > > Dear Jagbir and All, > > To be honest, i took a chance on the Mother, because of what i had read and believed in non-Christian scriptures and literature. i took a step of faith in Her, even though i was not knowledgable about Her, as i am now through Sahaja Yoga. i did not know the connection between the Mother and the Holy Spirit at that time. That is why, when i heard the feminine voice within the Silence, i was quite taken aback!!! This is because, in Christianity i had been taught that Christ Jesus is both our Father and our Mother, so if i had heard a voice, it should have been a masculine voice, and not a feminine one! That's why the " feminine voice within " quite startled me, but i had never experienced such amazing love, the love of a Mother!!! > > i will never forget my first experience of Her. No matter what happened after that, i would and could turn to Her!!! Of course, i was very surprised to find Her. i had no frame of reference from the Christian teachings for Her though. It was a gnostic experience, for which i had no spiritual identity for Her, other than my spiritual Mother within. That much i admitted, it must be! That is also why, i have grasped firmly on to Shri Mataji's teaching of the " individual Mother Within " so strongly, because i had already met Her, though did not know about Her actual spiritual eschatology. > > This is because, in Christianity, Her existence and identity had been obscured almost completely. In Christianity, i was taught that when i pray to the Father, that i am actually praying to Christ Jesus. i was also taught that when i pray to the Holy Spirit, that i was in fact, praying to Christ Jesus. Then i would also pray to Christ Jesus Himself! So in Christianity, Christ Jesus is " All in All " ... God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit!!! Having all three identities in the one person, however, can make the Christian scriptures very confusing and illogical in places. > > An example is, if Christ Jesus is God the Father, as Christianity teaches, why does He bother to pray to Himself in the Lord's Prayer, when He says: " Our Father who art in heaven " ? i have never heard of God the Father praying to Himself! i have only heard of people praying to God, and not God praying to Himself! So, i had to work through this Christian maze of confusion, created by man. i soon learned that it was best just to follow Christ's instructions for a spiritual seeker, which is to " seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened. " It is a Gnostic teaching. If i remember correctly though, traditional institutionalised Christianity takes a dim view of Gnosticism, and yet Christ Jesus was the greatest Gnostic!!! You just have to study His teachings, to discover this fact. > > So, it can be quite comical, if you try to work this 'maze' out. When a person is a real spiritual seeker, he refuses to dispenses with intelligence and logic, because the Spirit Within is pure intelligence and pure logic, which are also spiritual qualities, that guide a person. This is inbuilt. If a person does not use his God- given intelligence and logic, he becomes spiritually foolish, instead of a wise person. i would love to know, where Christ Jesus ever expected a person to believe in Him 'blindly'. Instead, Christ always created faith in people, that connvinced and assured people, that what He was saying, was the Truth of God. They accepted Him. This was not a blind faith! > > If Christians really study the Scriptures, they will find that the real kind of faith is not a 'blind belief or faith' but a real faith, that is based upon the assurance and conviction that comes from an inner knowing (a.k.a. " gnosticism " ). This inner knowing comes from the " Spirit within " . It is not seen by others, but it convinces and assures a person, and as a result, they have faith in what they have been assured and convinced of. The Scriptures do describe " real faith " : > > " Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. " (Hebrews 11:1) > > So people must stop accepting confusion and illogical teachings blindly, which religious regimes have a tendancy, to enforce on people, as if they were a group of robots, rather than individual Spirits. All religious regimes seem to make up illogical spiritual teachings around the Incarnation's teachings, and then expect intelligent people to believe their devised teachings, without questioning. And now they expect Sahaja Yogis to believe the SYSSR, without questioning. It has therefore become another religious regime, that will also crumble. The only religious regime that will remain in the end, is the Kingdom of God Within. In this Kingdom of God, the Divine Feminine is now revealing the Truth, in the Silence Within and many are listening to Her. That is why it is also important to make known, that She is in all the Scriptures. Otherwise, how will people know this fact, which brings spiritual confidence. > > regards to all, > > violet > > > > Dear Violet and All, > > > > i am really surprised that you were looking for the Divine Mother > > despite your Christian patriarchal background. Contrary to popular > > believe, most Hindus, Buddhists and Sikhs pay homage to the same > > despite the feminine presence entrenched in their traditions. But > > that is not the case of Judaism, Christianity and Islam where the > > Divine is always regarded/portrayed as masculine. So i am surprised > > that despite that serious handicap you were searching for the Holy > > Spirit which, despite the odds, you knew was feminine. So it is > > evident that over the millennia a male dominated society enforced a > > patriarchal deity. The Divine Feminine is only making Her presence > > known, again, in this Age of the Spirit. > > > > This is how i found Her: > > > > " Despite all this infamy and shameless decadence, Kash's father > still > > adamantly refused to seek Him in any of His Houses of Worship. How > > could the Almighty Creator exist in these putrid pools of organized > > hypocrisy and institutionalized falsehood? Can't He be found > anywhere > > else? Why does He force humans to seek Him only in these religious > > regimes professing His exclusive Grace? Which particular one, then, > > does He preside? What proof do the high priests of these Evening > > Empires have to convince the religious herd that only by > exclusively > > praying and prostrating inside their sprawling religious ranches > will > > God Almighty save them? How is it possible that he favored any > > religious regime that deny his other Messengers? > > > > No! this deity cannot be God Almighty! He has to be one of the > lesser > > gods worshipped by existing religious tribes - a Hindu prabhu, a > > Jewish yahweh, a Christian god, an Islamic allah, a Buddhist > buddha, > > a Sikh waheguru. > > > > And Kash's father would have to again continue the search for the > > Absolute Truth that would destroy all doubts, discrepancies, > > delusions, and darkness. > > > > In the end this spiritual song imploring the Almighty Creator to > > remove the veil of ignorance was sung again, and again, and again: > > > > O ek suki yaha lakoh mein. > > Oh, only one in a hundred thousand is in bliss. > > > > Ansoo hai croroh ankhoh mein. > > There are tears in tens of millions of eyes. > > > > Hum neh gin gin har takdir dekhi. > > I have counted and seen every fate for years, > > > > Ek hasta hai dush rote hai > > Only one laughs while ten are in tears. > > > > Kuch bhol Prabhu yeh kya Maya > > O! Speak Almighty God what is this Illusion, > > > > Tera khel samaj meh nah aya > > Your Divine Play is all confusion and delusion. > > > > For weeks the Almighty Creator was implored, amid a profusion of > > tears, to reveal the Truth. Again and again, and yet again He was > > beseeched to answer the meaning of life, creation, and this useless > > empty human existence. Above all, He was begged for the Truth that > > would destroy the falsehood that the religious regimes had deluded > > him and the rest of humanity. > > > > What was desired was the Absolute Truth of God Almighty, not the > > conflicting gods of various organized religions. Any god that could > > not explain and account for the other Messengers would not be God. > > Any yahweh that only cared for his kind would not be Yahweh. Any > god > > that professed that salvation was available only in churches would > > not be God. Any allah that had only one messenger would not be > Allah. > > Any prabhu that was found only in a single scripture would not be > > Prabhu. The plea for help was addressed directly to the one and > only > > God Almighty and not to any gods of the organized religions. " > > > > Shri Adi Shakti: The Kingdom Of God, page 50 > > http://www.adishakti.org/introduction.htm > > > > To cut a long story short, i was told to join Shri Mataji. Over > time > > i realized that She is the incarnation of the Divine Feminine, the > > later entrenched in all the holy scriptures. > > > > But how will the Divine Feminine triumph against all the odds > stacked > > against Her? How will She overcome the male-dominated temples, > > synagogues, churches, mosques and gurdwaras? How will She convince > > their followers that the visible, creative power of God Almighty is > > the Divine Feminine? > > > > It is both simple and extremely effective - She is the bearer of > the > > Last Judgment and Resurrection! She is the Comforter who announces > > the commencement of the Last Judgment. She is the Ruh who sets > forth > > the Sure Signs of Al-Qiyamah. She is the Divine Mother (Adi Shakti > or > > Holy Spirit) who gives the pure knowledge of liberation and eternal > > life. She is the Inner Guru who illumines and guides all souls > bound > > for the Kingdom of God. She is the Divine Feminine on whom all > > liberated souls and messengers of God meditate in Heaven. She is > the > > Self that must be realized. She is the omnipotent, omnipresent and > > omniscience aspect of God Almighty. > > > > Thus the deeply-divided male-dominated temples, synagogues, > churches, > > mosques and gurdwaras have been made impotent almost overnight by > > Her. Just introspect and contemplate on the above paragraph and you > > will realize the sheer brilliance and effectiveness of the Divine > > Mother's incarnation in overcoming these institutions. She is the > only > > medium through whom the eschatological promises and Sure Signs of > the > > Bible and Qur'an is being fulfilled. She is the Adi Shakti who > > promises moksa and eternal life to all who meditate and merge with > > Her in their Sahasraras. She is the Aykaa Mayee who created Shri > > Brahman, Vishnu and Shiva. She is the Mother Kundalini who rises > up > > to the Sahasrara and opens the Dsam Dwar. She is the Comforter > > promised by Jesus Christ to complete His teachings. She is the Ruh > > who triggers the Winds of Qiyamah. She is the Ruach, the Breath of > > God Almighty that those born of the Spirit feel on their hands and > > head upon second birth. She is the Divine Feminine - Adi Shakti, > > Shekinah, Ruach, Holy Spirit, Ruh, Tao, Prajnaparamita, Aykaa > Mayee, > > Great Mother Spirit - one and the same for all traditions. > > > > Entrenched in all religions, She leaves no choice for those looking > > to their 'male gods' for salvation and liberation. The rival male- > > dominated temples, synagogues, churches, mosques and gurdwaras have > > been rendered barren. The Divine Feminine has revealed that you > need > > not set foot in any of them to seek the Divine because the Temple/ > > Kingdom of God is within. You need not even walk a single step > > in any direction--nor worship any of their man-made images or > rituals- > > -as She is within to comfort, guide and meditate with at all times. > > > > Then what is left for the bitterly divided religious institutions > to > > offer now? Other than the security and collectivity of numbers, > little > > else. That is why the male-dominated institutions are now barren > and > > impotent. The sun is indeed setting on these evening empires. > > > > We are at the earliest hour of the Dawn of the Divine Feminine. We > > are witnessing the most sacred time in the history of this > universe. > > Savor your priceless presence and blessings with the humility and > > serenity of Silence. We are all returning to our Eternal Home. > > > > Peace and Joy to all, > > > > jagbir > > > > > > > > , " Violet " > > <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > > > > > , " jagbir > > > singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > > > " As She has said, " You cannot know the meaning of your life until > > you are connected to the power that created you. " That is > absolutely > > true Shri Mataji! May i for all eternity be prostrated and seeking > > refuge at Your Lotus Feet Mother! " > > > > > > Dear Jagbir and All, > > > > > > i also say " Mother, may we be at Your Lotus Feet for all > eternity. > > There is no more blissful place! We are just so fortunate that Shri > > Mataji Nirmala Devi has come to introduce us to our individual > > Mother, who is within us. How else would be be sure? It is one > thing > > to hear the voice of the Mother within; it is another thing to have > > the Christian Comforter confirm the presence of the individual > Mother > > within, and introduce us to Her. > > > > > > i remember before i came to Sahaj, i read about the Divine > Mother, > > and realised that there is a Divine Mother, as well as a Divine > > Father, but it had never been taught to me as such, in > Christianity. > > The Christian teaching did not satisfy my soul, as did the esoteric > > teachings of the Hindus and Buddhists, etc. One day, when i was in > > contemplation and prayer, i asked the Mother (since i knew there > is a > > Mother) to be with me, guide me, and so forth. i was very anguished > > and eager to get into connection with My Mother, i was pleading to > > Her to help me get out of the illusion of this world, and into the > > reality of the Spirit. After all my pleadings, i became very > silent, > > and to my wonder, i heard this feminine voice from within, telling > me > > that i was Her child, and that She would look after me!!! Wonder, > > amazement, tears, and overwhelming love filled me, and i held on to > > Her hand, to guide me. i knew i would be OK, in this world of > > greatest illusion, that i had found my Comforter!!! It was not long > > after that, that i saw Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's face in a poster, > > smiling at me, and the poster was just across the street on a bus > > stop, when i looked out my front door (where i was living at that > > time). i told my husband (ex-husband now) that i wanted to go and > see > > this lady, but he would not let me go. A few years later, after the > > Divine had worked out a new marital relationship for me, where i > > could pursue deep spirituality, one day i went for a Free > Meditation > > Class, on the Central Coast of N.S.W. It was Sahaja Yoga. i > > recognised the picture of " the Mother " i had seen, who had been > > described on the poster as " the greatest living Spiritual Teacher " , > > and whose photo had been on a poster, when i had looked out the > front > > door! That is how i have come to Sahaja Yoga, and have never looked > > back, as She is in my heart, and Sahaja Yoga is with me, wherever i > > go; it is not confined to any particular place, but in the heart, > in > > the temple within! i am just so grateful, is all i can say. > > > > > > And as we have more sisters joining us (and brothers too) but i > am > > referring to Nicole and Gerlinde especially just now, i am > > overwhelmed with joy that our Forum Family Fellowship is growing, > and > > that its spiritual vibrations, when we are as one family, will grow > > in love, and the love of Shri Mataji (which She has awakened within > > us) will spread to the whole world. People will know that we are of > > God, because of the love we have for one another. > > > > > > That is the kind of family that others will want to join also, > > where we are kind, loving, helpful, and growing spiritually > together. > > > > > > So, Welcome Nicole and Gerlinde, as our New Moderators!!! > > > > > > love and best wishes to all, > > > > > > violet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > We have appointed two new moderators for this forum - Nicole > and > > > > Gerlinde. This will not only enable posts to be approved > quickly > > > but > > > > also allow Violet and myself to be more free i.e., we will not > > need > > > > to check posts that often. i also believe that both Nicole and > > > > Gerlinde will enrich the forum and should be allowed to approve > > > their > > > > own posts immediately i.e., by being moderators. > > > > > > > > i also want to take this opportunity to thank Violet for all > the > > > > time, effort and dedication corresponding with various seekers > and > > > > answering emails etc. To be honest, it was me who requested > her to > > > > take on this extra, time-consuming duty which she accepted > with a > > > > smile. That enabled me to be more focused and energetic. Of > > course, > > > > all this help makes it easier to remain Silent ........... a > key > > > > requirement for obtaining answers. > > > > > > > > Some members of this Forum Family (thanks Violet for coining > this) > > > > have expressed their gratitude and thanks that this forum has > not > > > > only filled them with new knowledge but also enabled better > > > > comprehension of the old. i too am enriched, and at times > amazed > > by > > > > the knowledge. Today i know that Jesus was dead serious about > > > > plucking out the evil eye for the sake of salvation when the > final > > > > judgment is announced. It is not a figure of speech. All this > new > > > > knowledge and its introspection only nourishes and grounds my > > roots > > > > of faith deeper. i know beyond all doubts that life is eternal, > > and > > > > that i will return to the Kingdom of God where all the > > incarnations > > > > and countless liberated souls live. So will all who strive with > > > mind, > > > > body and soul during this promised Blossom Time that the > Comforter > > > > has proclaimed and explained. As She has said, " You cannot know > > the > > > > meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that > > > > created you. " That is absolutely true Shri Mataji! May i for > all > > > > eternity be prostrated and seeking refuge at Your Lotus Feet > > > Mother! > > > > > > > > Peace and Joy to all, > > > > > > > > jagbir > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Posted June 7, 2007 , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: " After reading the rest of your post i realize how confusing it is to understand the Bible regarding the nature of God Almighty. To regard Jesus Christ as God, Son and Holy Spirit just makes no sense, all the more when Jesus Himself never claimed so. " Dear Jagbir (and All), This is true. However, by applying Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's teachings, i have been able to make sense out of the Bible, in a way that no Christian minister can, because of the indoctrination and wrong interpretation of Scripture that he is under, and which tradition he is expected to maintain, to keep his job. The odds are stacked up, therefore. But i hope 'open-minded' Christians, who just want the Truth, will read the HSS site, and finally get it, and then they will be able to see it in their own Bibles. They will realise then, that there is God the Father, God the Mother (the Holy Spirit), and God the Son. That would give me much joy! It just has to happen! The Absolute Truth that unites Spirits, has to come out! When it does, it will transform the world, because people will refuse to be subjected to lesser gods, and instead " become the Spirit " ! i agree Jagbir, that these Christian topics are quite depressing, but i guess it does show though, that there is still a way to go, to enlighten people's minds with Absolute Truth, instead of untruths or half-truths. warmest regards, violet > Dear Violet, > > It is obvious that your gnostic experience is based on the Truth that > is now the very foundation of your faith, as it is for me. After > reading the rest of your post i realize how confusing it is to > understand the Bible regarding the nature of God Almighty. To regard > Jesus Christ as God, Son and Holy Spirit just makes no sense, all the > more when Jesus Himself never claimed so. No wonder my son said the > same when i asked him to take up Catholic classes. Now i understand > the Christian religious mindset better. All these various religions > have over the millennia produced 1001 mindsets that conflict and > contradict each other, and yet Jews, Christians and Muslims claim to > be the chosen ones to the exclusion of all others. It is such a > depressing topic. > > warmest regards, > > jagbir > > > , " Violet " > <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > > > , " jagbir > > singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > " i am really surprised that you were looking for the Divine Mother > despite your Christian patriarchal background. Contrary to popular > believe, most Hindus, Buddhists and Sikhs pay homage to the same > despite the feminine presence entrenched in their traditions. But > that is not the case of Judaism, Christianity and Islam where the > Divine is always regarded/portrayed as masculine. So i am surprised > that despite that serious handicap you were searching for the Holy > Spirit which, despite the odds, you knew was feminine. So it is > evident that over the millennia a male dominated society enforced a > patriarchal deity. The Divine Feminine is only making Her presence > known, again, in this Age of the Spirit. " > > > > Dear Jagbir and All, > > > > To be honest, i took a chance on the Mother, because of what i had > read and believed in non-Christian scriptures and literature. i took > a step of faith in Her, even though i was not knowledgable about Her, > as i am now through Sahaja Yoga. i did not know the connection > between the Mother and the Holy Spirit at that time. That is why, > when i heard the feminine voice within the Silence, i was quite taken > aback!!! This is because, in Christianity i had been taught that > Christ Jesus is both our Father and our Mother, so if i had heard a > voice, it should have been a masculine voice, and not a feminine one! > That's why the " feminine voice within " quite startled me, but i had > never experienced such amazing love, the love of a Mother!!! > > > > i will never forget my first experience of Her. No matter what > happened after that, i would and could turn to Her!!! Of course, i > was very surprised to find Her. i had no frame of reference from the > Christian teachings for Her though. It was a gnostic experience, for > which i had no spiritual identity for Her, other than my spiritual > Mother within. That much i admitted, it must be! That is also why, i > have grasped firmly on to Shri Mataji's teaching of the " individual > Mother Within " so strongly, because i had already met Her, though did > not know about Her actual spiritual eschatology. > > > > This is because, in Christianity, Her existence and identity had > been obscured almost completely. In Christianity, i was taught that > when i pray to the Father, that i am actually praying to Christ > Jesus. i was also taught that when i pray to the Holy Spirit, that i > was in fact, praying to Christ Jesus. Then i would also pray to > Christ Jesus Himself! So in Christianity, Christ Jesus is " All in > All " ... God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit!!! > Having all three identities in the one person, however, can make the > Christian scriptures very confusing and illogical in places. > > > > An example is, if Christ Jesus is God the Father, as Christianity > teaches, why does He bother to pray to Himself in the Lord's Prayer, > when He says: " Our Father who art in heaven " ? i have never heard of > God the Father praying to Himself! i have only heard of people > praying to God, and not God praying to Himself! So, i had to work > through this Christian maze of confusion, created by man. i soon > learned that it was best just to follow Christ's instructions for a > spiritual seeker, which is to " seek and you will find; knock and the > door will be opened. " It is a Gnostic teaching. If i remember > correctly though, traditional institutionalised Christianity takes a > dim view of Gnosticism, and yet Christ Jesus was the greatest > Gnostic!!! You just have to study His teachings, to discover this > fact. > > > > So, it can be quite comical, if you try to work this 'maze' out. > When a person is a real spiritual seeker, he refuses to dispenses > with intelligence and logic, because the Spirit Within is pure > intelligence and pure logic, which are also spiritual qualities, that > guide a person. This is inbuilt. If a person does not use his God- > given intelligence and logic, he becomes spiritually foolish, instead > of a wise person. i would love to know, where Christ Jesus ever > expected a person to believe in Him 'blindly'. Instead, Christ always > created faith in people, that connvinced and assured people, that > what He was saying, was the Truth of God. They accepted Him. This was > not a blind faith! > > > > If Christians really study the Scriptures, they will find that the > real kind of faith is not a 'blind belief or faith' but a real faith, > that is based upon the assurance and conviction that comes from an > inner knowing (a.k.a. " gnosticism " ). This inner knowing comes from > the " Spirit within " . It is not seen by others, but it convinces and > assures a person, and as a result, they have faith in what they have > been assured and convinced of. The Scriptures do describe " real > faith " : > > > > " Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of > things not seen. " (Hebrews 11:1) > > > > So people must stop accepting confusion and illogical teachings > blindly, which religious regimes have a tendancy, to enforce on > people, as if they were a group of robots, rather than individual > Spirits. All religious regimes seem to make up illogical spiritual > teachings around the Incarnation's teachings, and then expect > intelligent people to believe their devised teachings, without > questioning. And now they expect Sahaja Yogis to believe the SYSSR, > without questioning. It has therefore become another religious > regime, that will also crumble. The only religious regime that will > remain in the end, is the Kingdom of God Within. In this Kingdom of > God, the Divine Feminine is now revealing the Truth, in the Silence > Within and many are listening to Her. That is why it is also > important to make known, that She is in all the Scriptures. > Otherwise, how will people know this fact, which brings spiritual > confidence. > > > > regards to all, > > > > violet > > > > > > > Dear Violet and All, > > > > > > i am really surprised that you were looking for the Divine Mother > > > despite your Christian patriarchal background. Contrary to popular > > > believe, most Hindus, Buddhists and Sikhs pay homage to the same > > > despite the feminine presence entrenched in their traditions. But > > > that is not the case of Judaism, Christianity and Islam where the > > > Divine is always regarded/portrayed as masculine. So i am > surprised > > > that despite that serious handicap you were searching for the Holy > > > Spirit which, despite the odds, you knew was feminine. So it is > > > evident that over the millennia a male dominated society enforced > a > > > patriarchal deity. The Divine Feminine is only making Her presence > > > known, again, in this Age of the Spirit. > > > > > > This is how i found Her: > > > > > > " Despite all this infamy and shameless decadence, Kash's father > > still > > > adamantly refused to seek Him in any of His Houses of Worship. How > > > could the Almighty Creator exist in these putrid pools of > organized > > > hypocrisy and institutionalized falsehood? Can't He be found > > anywhere > > > else? Why does He force humans to seek Him only in these religious > > > regimes professing His exclusive Grace? Which particular one, > then, > > > does He preside? What proof do the high priests of these Evening > > > Empires have to convince the religious herd that only by > > exclusively > > > praying and prostrating inside their sprawling religious ranches > > will > > > God Almighty save them? How is it possible that he favored any > > > religious regime that deny his other Messengers? > > > > > > No! this deity cannot be God Almighty! He has to be one of the > > lesser > > > gods worshipped by existing religious tribes - a Hindu prabhu, a > > > Jewish yahweh, a Christian god, an Islamic allah, a Buddhist > > buddha, > > > a Sikh waheguru. > > > > > > And Kash's father would have to again continue the search for the > > > Absolute Truth that would destroy all doubts, discrepancies, > > > delusions, and darkness. > > > > > > In the end this spiritual song imploring the Almighty Creator to > > > remove the veil of ignorance was sung again, and again, and again: > > > > > > O ek suki yaha lakoh mein. > > > Oh, only one in a hundred thousand is in bliss. > > > > > > Ansoo hai croroh ankhoh mein. > > > There are tears in tens of millions of eyes. > > > > > > Hum neh gin gin har takdir dekhi. > > > I have counted and seen every fate for years, > > > > > > Ek hasta hai dush rote hai > > > Only one laughs while ten are in tears. > > > > > > Kuch bhol Prabhu yeh kya Maya > > > O! Speak Almighty God what is this Illusion, > > > > > > Tera khel samaj meh nah aya > > > Your Divine Play is all confusion and delusion. > > > > > > For weeks the Almighty Creator was implored, amid a profusion of > > > tears, to reveal the Truth. Again and again, and yet again He was > > > beseeched to answer the meaning of life, creation, and this > useless > > > empty human existence. Above all, He was begged for the Truth that > > > would destroy the falsehood that the religious regimes had deluded > > > him and the rest of humanity. > > > > > > What was desired was the Absolute Truth of God Almighty, not the > > > conflicting gods of various organized religions. Any god that > could > > > not explain and account for the other Messengers would not be God. > > > Any yahweh that only cared for his kind would not be Yahweh. Any > > god > > > that professed that salvation was available only in churches would > > > not be God. Any allah that had only one messenger would not be > > Allah. > > > Any prabhu that was found only in a single scripture would not be > > > Prabhu. The plea for help was addressed directly to the one and > > only > > > God Almighty and not to any gods of the organized religions. " > > > > > > Shri Adi Shakti: The Kingdom Of God, page 50 > > > http://www.adishakti.org/introduction.htm > > > > > > To cut a long story short, i was told to join Shri Mataji. Over > > time > > > i realized that She is the incarnation of the Divine Feminine, the > > > later entrenched in all the holy scriptures. > > > > > > But how will the Divine Feminine triumph against all the odds > > stacked > > > against Her? How will She overcome the male-dominated temples, > > > synagogues, churches, mosques and gurdwaras? How will She convince > > > their followers that the visible, creative power of God Almighty > is > > > the Divine Feminine? > > > > > > It is both simple and extremely effective - She is the bearer of > > the > > > Last Judgment and Resurrection! She is the Comforter who announces > > > the commencement of the Last Judgment. She is the Ruh who sets > > forth > > > the Sure Signs of Al-Qiyamah. She is the Divine Mother (Adi Shakti > > or > > > Holy Spirit) who gives the pure knowledge of liberation and > eternal > > > life. She is the Inner Guru who illumines and guides all souls > > bound > > > for the Kingdom of God. She is the Divine Feminine on whom all > > > liberated souls and messengers of God meditate in Heaven. She is > > the > > > Self that must be realized. She is the omnipotent, omnipresent and > > > omniscience aspect of God Almighty. > > > > > > Thus the deeply-divided male-dominated temples, synagogues, > > churches, > > > mosques and gurdwaras have been made impotent almost overnight by > > > Her. Just introspect and contemplate on the above paragraph and > you > > > will realize the sheer brilliance and effectiveness of the Divine > > > Mother's incarnation in overcoming these institutions. She is the > > only > > > medium through whom the eschatological promises and Sure Signs of > > the > > > Bible and Qur'an is being fulfilled. She is the Adi Shakti who > > > promises moksa and eternal life to all who meditate and merge with > > > Her in their Sahasraras. She is the Aykaa Mayee who created Shri > > > Brahman, Vishnu and Shiva. She is the Mother Kundalini who rises > > up > > > to the Sahasrara and opens the Dsam Dwar. She is the Comforter > > > promised by Jesus Christ to complete His teachings. She is the Ruh > > > who triggers the Winds of Qiyamah. She is the Ruach, the Breath of > > > God Almighty that those born of the Spirit feel on their hands and > > > head upon second birth. She is the Divine Feminine - Adi Shakti, > > > Shekinah, Ruach, Holy Spirit, Ruh, Tao, Prajnaparamita, Aykaa > > Mayee, > > > Great Mother Spirit - one and the same for all traditions. > > > > > > Entrenched in all religions, She leaves no choice for those > looking > > > to their 'male gods' for salvation and liberation. The rival male- > > > dominated temples, synagogues, churches, mosques and gurdwaras > have > > > been rendered barren. The Divine Feminine has revealed that you > > need > > > not set foot in any of them to seek the Divine because the Temple/ > > > Kingdom of God is within. You need not even walk a single step > > > in any direction--nor worship any of their man-made images or > > rituals- > > > -as She is within to comfort, guide and meditate with at all > times. > > > > > > Then what is left for the bitterly divided religious institutions > > to > > > offer now? Other than the security and collectivity of numbers, > > little > > > else. That is why the male-dominated institutions are now barren > > and > > > impotent. The sun is indeed setting on these evening empires. > > > > > > We are at the earliest hour of the Dawn of the Divine Feminine. We > > > are witnessing the most sacred time in the history of this > > universe. > > > Savor your priceless presence and blessings with the humility and > > > serenity of Silence. We are all returning to our Eternal Home. > > > > > > Peace and Joy to all, > > > > > > jagbir > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Violet " > > > <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > > > > > > > , " jagbir > > > > singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > > > > > " As She has said, " You cannot know the meaning of your life > until > > > you are connected to the power that created you. " That is > > absolutely > > > true Shri Mataji! May i for all eternity be prostrated and seeking > > > refuge at Your Lotus Feet Mother! " > > > > > > > > Dear Jagbir and All, > > > > > > > > i also say " Mother, may we be at Your Lotus Feet for all > > eternity. > > > There is no more blissful place! We are just so fortunate that > Shri > > > Mataji Nirmala Devi has come to introduce us to our individual > > > Mother, who is within us. How else would be be sure? It is one > > thing > > > to hear the voice of the Mother within; it is another thing to > have > > > the Christian Comforter confirm the presence of the individual > > Mother > > > within, and introduce us to Her. > > > > > > > > i remember before i came to Sahaj, i read about the Divine > > Mother, > > > and realised that there is a Divine Mother, as well as a Divine > > > Father, but it had never been taught to me as such, in > > Christianity. > > > The Christian teaching did not satisfy my soul, as did the > esoteric > > > teachings of the Hindus and Buddhists, etc. One day, when i was in > > > contemplation and prayer, i asked the Mother (since i knew there > > is a > > > Mother) to be with me, guide me, and so forth. i was very > anguished > > > and eager to get into connection with My Mother, i was pleading to > > > Her to help me get out of the illusion of this world, and into the > > > reality of the Spirit. After all my pleadings, i became very > > silent, > > > and to my wonder, i heard this feminine voice from within, telling > > me > > > that i was Her child, and that She would look after me!!! Wonder, > > > amazement, tears, and overwhelming love filled me, and i held on > to > > > Her hand, to guide me. i knew i would be OK, in this world of > > > greatest illusion, that i had found my Comforter!!! It was not > long > > > after that, that i saw Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's face in a > poster, > > > smiling at me, and the poster was just across the street on a bus > > > stop, when i looked out my front door (where i was living at that > > > time). i told my husband (ex-husband now) that i wanted to go and > > see > > > this lady, but he would not let me go. A few years later, after > the > > > Divine had worked out a new marital relationship for me, where i > > > could pursue deep spirituality, one day i went for a Free > > Meditation > > > Class, on the Central Coast of N.S.W. It was Sahaja Yoga. i > > > recognised the picture of " the Mother " i had seen, who had been > > > described on the poster as " the greatest living Spiritual > Teacher " , > > > and whose photo had been on a poster, when i had looked out the > > front > > > door! That is how i have come to Sahaja Yoga, and have never > looked > > > back, as She is in my heart, and Sahaja Yoga is with me, wherever > i > > > go; it is not confined to any particular place, but in the heart, > > in > > > the temple within! i am just so grateful, is all i can say. > > > > > > > > And as we have more sisters joining us (and brothers too) but i > > am > > > referring to Nicole and Gerlinde especially just now, i am > > > overwhelmed with joy that our Forum Family Fellowship is growing, > > and > > > that its spiritual vibrations, when we are as one family, will > grow > > > in love, and the love of Shri Mataji (which She has awakened > within > > > us) will spread to the whole world. People will know that we are > of > > > God, because of the love we have for one another. > > > > > > > > That is the kind of family that others will want to join also, > > > where we are kind, loving, helpful, and growing spiritually > > together. > > > > > > > > So, Welcome Nicole and Gerlinde, as our New Moderators!!! > > > > > > > > love and best wishes to all, > > > > > > > > violet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > We have appointed two new moderators for this forum - Nicole > > and > > > > > Gerlinde. This will not only enable posts to be approved > > quickly > > > > but > > > > > also allow Violet and myself to be more free i.e., we will not > > > need > > > > > to check posts that often. i also believe that both Nicole and > > > > > Gerlinde will enrich the forum and should be allowed to > approve > > > > their > > > > > own posts immediately i.e., by being moderators. > > > > > > > > > > i also want to take this opportunity to thank Violet for all > > the > > > > > time, effort and dedication corresponding with various seekers > > and > > > > > answering emails etc. To be honest, it was me who requested > > her to > > > > > take on this extra, time-consuming duty which she accepted > > with a > > > > > smile. That enabled me to be more focused and energetic. Of > > > course, > > > > > all this help makes it easier to remain Silent ........... a > > key > > > > > requirement for obtaining answers. > > > > > > > > > > Some members of this Forum Family (thanks Violet for coining > > this) > > > > > have expressed their gratitude and thanks that this forum has > > not > > > > > only filled them with new knowledge but also enabled better > > > > > comprehension of the old. i too am enriched, and at times > > amazed > > > by > > > > > the knowledge. Today i know that Jesus was dead serious about > > > > > plucking out the evil eye for the sake of salvation when the > > final > > > > > judgment is announced. It is not a figure of speech. All this > > new > > > > > knowledge and its introspection only nourishes and grounds my > > > roots > > > > > of faith deeper. i know beyond all doubts that life is > eternal, > > > and > > > > > that i will return to the Kingdom of God where all the > > > incarnations > > > > > and countless liberated souls live. So will all who strive > with > > > > mind, > > > > > body and soul during this promised Blossom Time that the > > Comforter > > > > > has proclaimed and explained. As She has said, " You cannot > know > > > the > > > > > meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that > > > > > created you. " That is absolutely true Shri Mataji! May i for > > all > > > > > eternity be prostrated and seeking refuge at Your Lotus Feet > > > > Mother! > > > > > > > > > > Peace and Joy to all, > > > > > > > > > > jagbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Posted June 7, 2007 Dear Violet, You said that " i agree Jagbir, that these Christian topics are quite depressing, but i guess it does show though, that there is still a way to go, to enlighten people's minds with Absolute Truth, instead of untruths or half-truths. " Now members of this forum may realize why i had to completely hand over the http://holyspirit-shekinah.org site to you. Again i have to remind that it is a crucial task that will help make those with a Christian background better understand the Bible. Their present mindset retards spiritual growth because the three-in-one is a false and utterly confusing indoctrination. It is a depressing topic too because hundreds of millions are incapable of overcoming it ......... except by ignorance, blind faith, leaving, turning to other religions or atheism. But Jesus Christ plays a pivotal part in the Divine Feminine's descend on Earth and Her Divine Message to humanity. So are those who are going to explain, expand and enlighten all that. As i said before, we are at the earliest hour at the Dawn of the Divine Feminine. warmest regards, jagbir , " Violet " <violet.tubb wrote: > > " After reading the rest of your post i realize how confusing it is to understand the Bible regarding the nature of God Almighty. To regard Jesus Christ as God, Son and Holy Spirit just makes no sense, all the more when Jesus Himself never claimed so. " > > Dear Jagbir (and All), > > This is true. However, by applying Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's teachings, i have been able to make sense out of the Bible, in a way that no Christian minister can, because of the indoctrination and wrong interpretation of Scripture that he is under, and which tradition he is expected to maintain, to keep his job. The odds are stacked up, therefore. But i hope 'open-minded' Christians, who just want the Truth, will read the HSS site, and finally get it, and then they will be able to see it in their own Bibles. They will realise then, that there is God the Father, God the Mother (the Holy Spirit), and God the Son. That would give me much joy! It just has to happen! The Absolute Truth that unites Spirits, has to come out! When it does, it will transform the world, because people will refuse to be subjected to lesser gods, and instead " become the Spirit " ! i agree Jagbir, that these Christian topics are quite depressing, but i guess it does show though, that there is still a way to go, to enlighten people's minds with Absolute Truth, instead of untruths or half- truths. > > warmest regards, > > violet > > > > , " jagbir > singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > Dear Violet, > > > > It is obvious that your gnostic experience is based on the Truth > that > > is now the very foundation of your faith, as it is for me. After > > reading the rest of your post i realize how confusing it is to > > understand the Bible regarding the nature of God Almighty. To > regard > > Jesus Christ as God, Son and Holy Spirit just makes no sense, all > the > > more when Jesus Himself never claimed so. No wonder my son said the > > same when i asked him to take up Catholic classes. Now i understand > > the Christian religious mindset better. All these various religions > > have over the millennia produced 1001 mindsets that conflict and > > contradict each other, and yet Jews, Christians and Muslims claim > to > > be the chosen ones to the exclusion of all others. It is such a > > depressing topic. > > > > warmest regards, > > > > jagbir > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Posted June 7, 2007 Dear Friends, It is truly an unforgettable moment when a person realises that the Divine Energy is actually much more than the religious and man-made concepts which have tried to contain and confine it for so long. It has been present in all the religions in various ways; and mystics from all paths have had some awareness of it. We can see the Forms that have been given it, and more than this, there is the realisation that it is endlessly Formless. The power of belief is such that matter can be affected...and beliefs can be manifested. Love, Semira , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > Dear Violet and All, > > i am really surprised that you were looking for the Divine Mother > despite your Christian patriarchal background. Contrary to popular > believe, most Hindus, Buddhists and Sikhs pay homage to the same > despite the feminine presence entrenched in their traditions. But > that is not the case of Judaism, Christianity and Islam where the > Divine is always regarded/portrayed as masculine. So i am surprised > that despite that serious handicap you were searching for the Holy > Spirit which, despite the odds, you knew was feminine. So it is > evident that over the millennia a male dominated society enforced a > patriarchal deity. The Divine Feminine is only making Her presence > known, again, in this Age of the Spirit. > > This is how i found Her: > > " Despite all this infamy and shameless decadence, Kash's father still > adamantly refused to seek Him in any of His Houses of Worship. How > could the Almighty Creator exist in these putrid pools of organized > hypocrisy and institutionalized falsehood? Can't He be found anywhere > else? Why does He force humans to seek Him only in these religious > regimes professing His exclusive Grace? Which particular one, then, > does He preside? What proof do the high priests of these Evening > Empires have to convince the religious herd that only by exclusively > praying and prostrating inside their sprawling religious ranches will > God Almighty save them? How is it possible that he favored any > religious regime that deny his other Messengers? > > No! this deity cannot be God Almighty! He has to be one of the lesser > gods worshipped by existing religious tribes - a Hindu prabhu, a > Jewish yahweh, a Christian god, an Islamic allah, a Buddhist buddha, > a Sikh waheguru. > > And Kash's father would have to again continue the search for the > Absolute Truth that would destroy all doubts, discrepancies, > delusions, and darkness. > > In the end this spiritual song imploring the Almighty Creator to > remove the veil of ignorance was sung again, and again, and again: > > O ek suki yaha lakoh mein. > Oh, only one in a hundred thousand is in bliss. > > Ansoo hai croroh ankhoh mein. > There are tears in tens of millions of eyes. > > Hum neh gin gin har takdir dekhi. > I have counted and seen every fate for years, > > Ek hasta hai dush rote hai > Only one laughs while ten are in tears. > > Kuch bhol Prabhu yeh kya Maya > O! Speak Almighty God what is this Illusion, > > Tera khel samaj meh nah aya > Your Divine Play is all confusion and delusion. > > For weeks the Almighty Creator was implored, amid a profusion of > tears, to reveal the Truth. Again and again, and yet again He was > beseeched to answer the meaning of life, creation, and this useless > empty human existence. Above all, He was begged for the Truth that > would destroy the falsehood that the religious regimes had deluded > him and the rest of humanity. > > What was desired was the Absolute Truth of God Almighty, not the > conflicting gods of various organized religions. Any god that could > not explain and account for the other Messengers would not be God. > Any yahweh that only cared for his kind would not be Yahweh. Any god > that professed that salvation was available only in churches would > not be God. Any allah that had only one messenger would not be Allah. > Any prabhu that was found only in a single scripture would not be > Prabhu. The plea for help was addressed directly to the one and only > God Almighty and not to any gods of the organized religions. " > > Shri Adi Shakti: The Kingdom Of God, page 50 > http://www.adishakti.org/introduction.htm > > To cut a long story short, i was told to join Shri Mataji. Over time > i realized that She is the incarnation of the Divine Feminine, the > later entrenched in all the holy scriptures. > > But how will the Divine Feminine triumph against all the odds stacked > against Her? How will She overcome the male-dominated temples, > synagogues, churches, mosques and gurdwaras? How will She convince > their followers that the visible, creative power of God Almighty is > the Divine Feminine? > > It is both simple and extremely effective - She is the bearer of the > Last Judgment and Resurrection! She is the Comforter who announces > the commencement of the Last Judgment. She is the Ruh who sets forth > the Sure Signs of Al-Qiyamah. She is the Divine Mother (Adi Shakti or > Holy Spirit) who gives the pure knowledge of liberation and eternal > life. She is the Inner Guru who illumines and guides all souls bound > for the Kingdom of God. She is the Divine Feminine on whom all > liberated souls and messengers of God meditate in Heaven. She is the > Self that must be realized. She is the omnipotent, omnipresent and > omniscience aspect of God Almighty. > > Thus the deeply-divided male-dominated temples, synagogues, churches, > mosques and gurdwaras have been made impotent almost overnight by > Her. Just introspect and contemplate on the above paragraph and you > will realize the sheer brilliance and effectiveness of the Divine > Mother's incarnation in overcoming these institutions. She is the only > medium through whom the eschatological promises and Sure Signs of the > Bible and Qur'an is being fulfilled. She is the Adi Shakti who > promises moksa and eternal life to all who meditate and merge with > Her in their Sahasraras. She is the Aykaa Mayee who created Shri > Brahman, Vishnu and Shiva. She is the Mother Kundalini who rises up > to the Sahasrara and opens the Dsam Dwar. She is the Comforter > promised by Jesus Christ to complete His teachings. She is the Ruh > who triggers the Winds of Qiyamah. She is the Ruach, the Breath of > God Almighty that those born of the Spirit feel on their hands and > head upon second birth. She is the Divine Feminine - Adi Shakti, > Shekinah, Ruach, Holy Spirit, Ruh, Tao, Prajnaparamita, Aykaa Mayee, > Great Mother Spirit - one and the same for all traditions. > > Entrenched in all religions, She leaves no choice for those looking > to their 'male gods' for salvation and liberation. The rival male- > dominated temples, synagogues, churches, mosques and gurdwaras have > been rendered barren. The Divine Feminine has revealed that you need > not set foot in any of them to seek the Divine because the Temple/ > Kingdom of God is within. You need not even walk a single step > in any direction--nor worship any of their man-made images or rituals- > -as She is within to comfort, guide and meditate with at all times. > > Then what is left for the bitterly divided religious institutions to > offer now? Other than the security and collectivity of numbers, little > else. That is why the male-dominated institutions are now barren and > impotent. The sun is indeed setting on these evening empires. > > We are at the earliest hour of the Dawn of the Divine Feminine. We > are witnessing the most sacred time in the history of this universe. > Savor your priceless presence and blessings with the humility and > serenity of Silence. We are all returning to our Eternal Home. > > Peace and Joy to all, > > jagbir > > > > , " Violet " > <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > > > , " jagbir > > singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > " As She has said, " You cannot know the meaning of your life until > you are connected to the power that created you. " That is absolutely > true Shri Mataji! May i for all eternity be prostrated and seeking > refuge at Your Lotus Feet Mother! " > > > > Dear Jagbir and All, > > > > i also say " Mother, may we be at Your Lotus Feet for all eternity. > There is no more blissful place! We are just so fortunate that Shri > Mataji Nirmala Devi has come to introduce us to our individual > Mother, who is within us. How else would be be sure? It is one thing > to hear the voice of the Mother within; it is another thing to have > the Christian Comforter confirm the presence of the individual Mother > within, and introduce us to Her. > > > > i remember before i came to Sahaj, i read about the Divine Mother, > and realised that there is a Divine Mother, as well as a Divine > Father, but it had never been taught to me as such, in Christianity. > The Christian teaching did not satisfy my soul, as did the esoteric > teachings of the Hindus and Buddhists, etc. One day, when i was in > contemplation and prayer, i asked the Mother (since i knew there is a > Mother) to be with me, guide me, and so forth. i was very anguished > and eager to get into connection with My Mother, i was pleading to > Her to help me get out of the illusion of this world, and into the > reality of the Spirit. After all my pleadings, i became very silent, > and to my wonder, i heard this feminine voice from within, telling me > that i was Her child, and that She would look after me!!! Wonder, > amazement, tears, and overwhelming love filled me, and i held on to > Her hand, to guide me. i knew i would be OK, in this world of > greatest illusion, that i had found my Comforter!!! It was not long > after that, that i saw Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's face in a poster, > smiling at me, and the poster was just across the street on a bus > stop, when i looked out my front door (where i was living at that > time). i told my husband (ex-husband now) that i wanted to go and see > this lady, but he would not let me go. A few years later, after the > Divine had worked out a new marital relationship for me, where i > could pursue deep spirituality, one day i went for a Free Meditation > Class, on the Central Coast of N.S.W. It was Sahaja Yoga. i > recognised the picture of " the Mother " i had seen, who had been > described on the poster as " the greatest living Spiritual Teacher " , > and whose photo had been on a poster, when i had looked out the front > door! That is how i have come to Sahaja Yoga, and have never looked > back, as She is in my heart, and Sahaja Yoga is with me, wherever i > go; it is not confined to any particular place, but in the heart, in > the temple within! i am just so grateful, is all i can say. > > > > And as we have more sisters joining us (and brothers too) but i am > referring to Nicole and Gerlinde especially just now, i am > overwhelmed with joy that our Forum Family Fellowship is growing, and > that its spiritual vibrations, when we are as one family, will grow > in love, and the love of Shri Mataji (which She has awakened within > us) will spread to the whole world. People will know that we are of > God, because of the love we have for one another. > > > > That is the kind of family that others will want to join also, > where we are kind, loving, helpful, and growing spiritually together. > > > > So, Welcome Nicole and Gerlinde, as our New Moderators!!! > > > > love and best wishes to all, > > > > violet > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > We have appointed two new moderators for this forum - Nicole and > > > Gerlinde. This will not only enable posts to be approved quickly > > but > > > also allow Violet and myself to be more free i.e., we will not > need > > > to check posts that often. i also believe that both Nicole and > > > Gerlinde will enrich the forum and should be allowed to approve > > their > > > own posts immediately i.e., by being moderators. > > > > > > i also want to take this opportunity to thank Violet for all the > > > time, effort and dedication corresponding with various seekers and > > > answering emails etc. To be honest, it was me who requested her to > > > take on this extra, time-consuming duty which she accepted with a > > > smile. That enabled me to be more focused and energetic. Of > course, > > > all this help makes it easier to remain Silent ........... a key > > > requirement for obtaining answers. > > > > > > Some members of this Forum Family (thanks Violet for coining this) > > > have expressed their gratitude and thanks that this forum has not > > > only filled them with new knowledge but also enabled better > > > comprehension of the old. i too am enriched, and at times amazed > by > > > the knowledge. Today i know that Jesus was dead serious about > > > plucking out the evil eye for the sake of salvation when the final > > > judgment is announced. It is not a figure of speech. All this new > > > knowledge and its introspection only nourishes and grounds my > roots > > > of faith deeper. i know beyond all doubts that life is eternal, > and > > > that i will return to the Kingdom of God where all the > incarnations > > > and countless liberated souls live. So will all who strive with > > mind, > > > body and soul during this promised Blossom Time that the Comforter > > > has proclaimed and explained. As She has said, " You cannot know > the > > > meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that > > > created you. " That is absolutely true Shri Mataji! May i for all > > > eternity be prostrated and seeking refuge at Your Lotus Feet > > Mother! > > > > > > Peace and Joy to all, > > > > > > jagbir > > > > > > Quote
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