What about the people who are good people, not seekers, but who have got realization?

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, preetibala vasthava

<preetu551 wrote:

>

> Dear brother

>

> I am a silent enjoyer of the posts but I must say that this

> forum has helped me so much getting to know about true meaning of

> sahaj yoga. Fortunately I live in a remote place where there is no

> collective. I have grown only with this forum's help and reading

> some sri mataji's books.

>

> I have got a query. Shall we try to give realization to as many

> as possible? When I give realization ( few friends), they get it.

> But it seems they had no idea of any divine union or anything like

> that. To talk about sri mataji's teachings is something which they

> find difficult to grasp. The same even if this website is

> introduced to them. I think still our job is not to judge but just

> do the job without any fear. Gerldin's (t)emplate is beautiful.

>

> Thanks again.

> preeti

>

 

Dear Preeti,

 

Thank you sister. i am indeed joyful that the forum and website has

not only nourished and sustained your seeking and deepened your

faith, but most importantly, made you understand much better what

Sahaja Yoga really is. That you are all alone and yet Her devotee

only drives home the point that the Truth of Shri Mataji's teachings

must be upheld at all times and under any circumstance ...........

without any human editing!

 

You queried at a most appropriate time with questions that i have

just introspected deeply a few weeks ago, and found answers. i

said " most appropriate time " because i have just overcome a really

difficult and hurtful event concerning a close family friend that

took place last month. It was very painful because i realized that

after all these years he was still denying Shri Mataji, forum and

websites by believing my children were possessed by evil spirits.

(That was the only way he could convince himself and his family not

to believe in Shri Mataji, even though on numerous occasions he felt

the Cool Breeze and the Mother Kundalini 'physically' moving and

stopping at his Center Heart or Anahat Chakra.)

 

So after much meditation and introspection i realized this:

 

i) do not waste time on people who deny Me (Adi Shakti) and My

Divine Message. There are billions who must be told the same truth.

Pay attention on them and focus on the websites;

 

ii) do not actively seek the company of non-believers in this

physical world. Your brothers and sisters here are those resurrecting

themselves and meditating on Me. Put your attention on them as I am

active in all their Sahasraras;

 

iii) do not be attached in any way to those who do not believe in

Me, and let them slowly drift away from your attention. They can even

be your own family members or best friends. Remain steadfast in your

faith as I was, am and forever will be your eternal Friend. I am with

you at all times, as I have been since time immemorial. We are and

will always be together at all times. Seek comfort, solace and

sanctuary in Me only!

 

 

Preeti, that is what i intend to do for the rest of my life. May you

too learn from what i have realized and want to put into practice.

And Violet too has posted at a most appropriate time with evidence

that my introspection and realization is genuine:

 

" You must have noticed that there are really very few true seekers in

this world. Seekers must also realise that they cannot be happy with

anything else but their Spirit, which is the test of a seeker. A non-

seeker can never understand a seeker.

 

It is very difficult to live with a man or woman who is not a seeker,

because you catch all the bad points, and you suffer. If the person

has ego, you catch it on your Agnya. Nothing happens to him. He is

very nicely off. He has his ego intact, and he is torturing you. But

it is better if the person is a seeker, because you can give him

realisation, and your vibratory awareness can be shared. But to be

with a non-seeker, can be a very difficult situation.

 

You cannot make fruit into flower. In your case, you have become the

fruit, but you must have a flower around, for it to become the fruit!

Those who are entangled with problems like 'my father', 'my mother',

'my brother' and 'my son', etc. should learn not to get entangled

with such problems.

 

Those who are not flowers, should be avoided, forgotten about, and

lost, because the more you try to improve them, the more entangled

you will become. They can never improve. I give everyone a big rope.

If they are not seekers, they they will never be seekers, and you

cannot inject seeking into them. They may become materially well-off,

but they can never become seekers, so just forget about them. You may

have to suffer because of them, for if they catch... you will suffer.

If they have a nabhi chakra catch, you are the one who will suffer.

This kind of a person is difficult to change, so do not waste your

energy. Christ said: " Do not cast your pearls before swine. " You

cannot force anyone to become a seeker. There are millions of seekers

in the world, so forget about such relationships. They may call

you 'mad', 'crazy' or some other thing, but they will realise one

thing... that you lead a much better life than they do. You are much

more peaceful, blissful, dharmic and sane, but they won't accept your

life. Play around with them, with the understanding that they cannot

change, however even if they change mentally, they cannot have the

urge of a seeker, because nothing is more important than 'seeking' to

the seeker! "

 

[in conclusion, these are the questions that Sahaja Yogis asked Shri

Mataji Nirmala Devi... and the answers that She gave]:

 

Question: What about the people who are good people, not seekers, but

who have got realisation, but don't seem to see the significance of

Sahaja Yoga?

 

Shri Mataji: " They will go out of circulation. Sahaja Yoga rejects

more than it accepts. It is a judgment going on. Such people will go

out of realisation. You can talk to them of realisation, give them

bandhans, etc. for they are the people in whom you could be

interested, but they are lost, otherwise. By example, butter is made

out of curd by churning. A little butter comes out, and the rest is

butter-milk. To separate it, a big lump of butter is put into the

butter-milk and when it is churned, all the butter collects around

that big lump and gathers into a large lump of butter. However, some

particles of butter are left behind. If they do not stick to the

larger lump of butter, they are thrown away with the butter-milk.

Those who do not come to Sahaja Yoga and are not 'up to the mark',

will be thrown out. It is a fact, but you should have 'nirpekshita'

(no attachment) to such people. "

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

" Subconscious, Supraconscious and our correct Foundations and Ideals "

Chelsham Road, London England - 24 May 1981

 

 

 

> jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote:

>

> " Sahaja Yoga unites the essence of all religions. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " Sahaja Yoga is different from the other Yogas because it begins

> with Self realisation instead of this being the unobtainable dream

> of a distant goal. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " Innately, within us, resides the Spirit which wants to enlighten

> you, to give peace, the bliss and the joy of our being. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " You are yourself and you must see yourself as your Self, as your

> Spirit. And Spirit is a Universal Being, is the innocence, is the

> virgin within you. This body is a palace and it is the House of

> God. Within it God kept the Infinite Flame. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " The greatest friend you have is the Divine Power which is looking

> after you and doing everything for you. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " It is God who rules, it is He who does, it is He who has created

> everything and it is He who enjoys everything. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " Atma is the reflection of Paramatma in our heart. This reflection

> is like the sun in water. Although reflection of the sun is in the

> water, he is away in the sky and not in the water. Similarly, Atma

> is as much as it is seen, it is beyond all that and not limited by

> it. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " The Atma (Spirit) resides inside this heart and after Sahaja Yoga

> its light spreads within us in seven layers. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected

> to the power that created you. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " Worry about yourself and see the good points of others. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " The representatives of Sada Shiva and Adi Shakti in us are the

> Atma and the Kundalini. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " Meditation, where you are connected to the All- pervading

> Divinity, is the starting point in Sahaja Yoga. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " When you try to seek the Knowledge you have to become the

> Knowledge. The light of Love is so sweet, so beautiful, so

> enamoring, so abounding. You can feel that Light within you which

> is of pure love, pure relationship and pure understanding. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " Kundalini is our Mother, we are Her only children and She has been

> with us through all our lives just waiting for the moment of

> fulfilment. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " It is the Divine love and grace of God which has made you a human

> being and it is His grace which is going to make you a supreme

> human being in Sahaja Yoga. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " Some are rich, some are poor, these are transitory things. Look

> into the heart within and enjoy that Love. With that Love you

> elevate and once more rise to greatness. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " We do not know our potential, our beauty, but once this connection

> with the mains is established you will be surprised at the results

> and the dynamism. Through our love we can absorb the defects of

> others and cleanse them. This is the power of Love. So far we have

> never used the power of Love. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " You cannot make your Kundalini pulsate with your mind. The Divine,

> if it has to do something, it must be extra-ordinary which human

> beings cannot do. To pulsate Kundalini is only possible for the

> Divine. It is a living force. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " A spiritual person is just innocent, just innocent. Whatever he

> talks or says comes through innocence. It just says what it knows

> and what it knows is the highest. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " God is infinite. You don't have to count His aspects. You want to

> enjoy Him. The wise simply eat the fruit, they do not count the

> leaves, roots and branches. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " It is very important to understand that without transformation you

> have no meaning. Whatever you are, do not identify yourselves with

> that, but whatever you want to be, try to be that. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " Spirit is the only thing that is at the center, and at the

> periphery if you look at things, they look as if they are separate

> and different. But if you can approach somehow into that state

> where your Spirit resides, you will be amazed to see that

> everything integrates, everything coordinates, and there is no

> difference. Say, in Mohammed Sahib, Dattatreya, Raja Janaka or

> Shirdi Sai Nath — there is no difference in their principle if you

> can just get your Spirit. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " Until you are able to understand the meaning of the " Self " , the

> physical body would remain imperfect and would be unable to verify

> the Truth. But once the physical instrument is connected with

> Truth, you are able to verify the Truth. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " When you become one with the Spirit all your problems will be

> solved. A realised person never talks in first person. He becomes

> separate from himself leaving aside his desires, his materialistic

> ideas. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " Meditation is nothing but the state of remaining in the constant

> company of the every-loving Bhagawati. "

>

> [bhagawati is the Primordial Mother — Adi Shakti, Holy Spirit or

> Ruh of Allah]

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " Sahaja Yoga is different from the other Yogas because it begins

> with Self realisation instead of this being the unobtainable dream

> of a distant goal. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " The essence of all religions is to find the eternal. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " In Sahaja Yoga, you have to understand one simple thing, that you

> are the Spirit and whatever is not the Spirit is not yourself. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " God has created man with his Shakti and man has to know Him, and

> recognize Him through Kundalini Awakening. Blossom Time has come

> and many ancient seekers are today getting their Self-Realisation. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " The object of Sahaja Yoga is basically to become and experience

> the spiritual Self. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " It's the culture of God, we are talking about, it's the culture of

> His kingdom where we give to others, enjoying, giving, doing for

> others, loving others, caring for others without any return. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " The only thing where you can really hide yourself is the love of

> God; where you can really get the great restful, blissful feeling

> of His complete protection. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " If in one lifetime you can achieve Self-Realisation and you reach

> the point of having begun to lose your habits, then in that very

> lifetime, it is possible for you to acquire that so called State.

> An established Sahaja Yogi is the one who becomes completely one

> with God and wins Him over. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " This is the Last Judgment. Remember, God will not bow before you.

> You have to accomplish Him in your own freedom. If you have not

> achieved Him it is not His fault nor is it of Sahaja Yoga. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

 

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Thank you so much for this elaborate explanation and quotes by mother. Infact I was waiting for your reply. I will take my own time to grasp every bit of it. Jai ma bhawani. jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote: , preetibala vasthava <preetu551 wrote:>> Dear brother> > I am a silent enjoyer of the posts but I must say that

this > forum has helped me so much getting to know about true meaning of > sahaj yoga. Fortunately I live in a remote place where there is no > collective. I have grown only with this forum's help and reading > some sri mataji's books. >> I have got a query. Shall we try to give realization to as many > as possible? When I give realization ( few friends), they get it. > But it seems they had no idea of any divine union or anything like > that. To talk about sri mataji's teachings is something which they > find difficult to grasp. The same even if this website is > introduced to them. I think still our job is not to judge but just > do the job without any fear. Gerldin's (t)emplate is beautiful.> > Thanks again.> preeti> Dear Preeti,Thank you sister. i am indeed joyful that the forum and website has not only nourished and sustained your seeking

and deepened your faith, but most importantly, made you understand much better what Sahaja Yoga really is. That you are all alone and yet Her devotee only drives home the point that the Truth of Shri Mataji's teachings must be upheld at all times and under any circumstance ........... without any human editing!You queried at a most appropriate time with questions that i have just introspected deeply a few weeks ago, and found answers. i said "most appropriate time" because i have just overcome a really difficult and hurtful event concerning a close family friend that took place last month. It was very painful because i realized that after all these years he was still denying Shri Mataji, forum and websites by believing my children were possessed by evil spirits. (That was the only way he could convince himself and his family not to believe in Shri Mataji, even though on numerous occasions he felt the Cool

Breeze and the Mother Kundalini 'physically' moving and stopping at his Center Heart or Anahat Chakra.)So after much meditation and introspection i realized this:i) do not waste time on people who deny Me (Adi Shakti) and My Divine Message. There are billions who must be told the same truth. Pay attention on them and focus on the websites;ii) do not actively seek the company of non-believers in this physical world. Your brothers and sisters here are those resurrecting themselves and meditating on Me. Put your attention on them as I am active in all their Sahasraras;iii) do not be attached in any way to those who do not believe in Me, and let them slowly drift away from your attention. They can even be your own family members or best friends. Remain steadfast in your faith as I was, am and forever will be your eternal Friend. I am with you at all times, as I have been since time immemorial. We are and

will always be together at all times. Seek comfort, solace and sanctuary in Me only!Preeti, that is what i intend to do for the rest of my life. May you too learn from what i have realized and want to put into practice. And Violet too has posted at a most appropriate time with evidence that my introspection and realization is genuine:"You must have noticed that there are really very few true seekers in this world. Seekers must also realise that they cannot be happy with anything else but their Spirit, which is the test of a seeker. A non-seeker can never understand a seeker. It is very difficult to live with a man or woman who is not a seeker, because you catch all the bad points, and you suffer. If the person has ego, you catch it on your Agnya. Nothing happens to him. He is very nicely off. He has his ego intact, and he is torturing you. But it is better if the person is a seeker, because you can

give him realisation, and your vibratory awareness can be shared. But to be with a non-seeker, can be a very difficult situation.You cannot make fruit into flower. In your case, you have become the fruit, but you must have a flower around, for it to become the fruit! Those who are entangled with problems like 'my father', 'my mother', 'my brother' and 'my son', etc. should learn not to get entangled with such problems.Those who are not flowers, should be avoided, forgotten about, and lost, because the more you try to improve them, the more entangled you will become. They can never improve. I give everyone a big rope. If they are not seekers, they they will never be seekers, and you cannot inject seeking into them. They may become materially well-off, but they can never become seekers, so just forget about them. You may have to suffer because of them, for if they catch... you will suffer. If they have a

nabhi chakra catch, you are the one who will suffer. This kind of a person is difficult to change, so do not waste your energy. Christ said: "Do not cast your pearls before swine." You cannot force anyone to become a seeker. There are millions of seekers in the world, so forget about such relationships. They may call you 'mad', 'crazy' or some other thing, but they will realise one thing... that you lead a much better life than they do. You are much more peaceful, blissful, dharmic and sane, but they won't accept your life. Play around with them, with the understanding that they cannot change, however even if they change mentally, they cannot have the urge of a seeker, because nothing is more important than 'seeking' to the seeker!"[in conclusion, these are the questions that Sahaja Yogis asked Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi... and the answers that She gave]:Question: What about the people who are good people, not

seekers, but who have got realisation, but don't seem to see the significance of Sahaja Yoga?Shri Mataji: "They will go out of circulation. Sahaja Yoga rejects more than it accepts. It is a judgment going on. Such people will go out of realisation. You can talk to them of realisation, give them bandhans, etc. for they are the people in whom you could be interested, but they are lost, otherwise. By example, butter is made out of curd by churning. A little butter comes out, and the rest is butter-milk. To separate it, a big lump of butter is put into the butter-milk and when it is churned, all the butter collects around that big lump and gathers into a large lump of butter. However, some particles of butter are left behind. If they do not stick to the larger lump of butter, they are thrown away with the butter-milk. Those who do not come to Sahaja Yoga and are not 'up to the mark', will be thrown out. It is a

fact, but you should have 'nirpekshita' (no attachment) to such people."Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi"Subconscious, Supraconscious and our correct Foundations and Ideals" Chelsham Road, London England - 24 May 1981> jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote:> > "Sahaja Yoga unites the essence of all religions."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "Sahaja Yoga is different from the other Yogas because it begins > with Self realisation instead of this being the unobtainable dream > of a distant goal."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "Innately, within us, resides the Spirit which wants to enlighten > you, to give peace, the bliss and the joy of our being."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "You are yourself and you must see yourself as your Self, as your > Spirit. And Spirit is a Universal Being, is the innocence, is the

> virgin within you. This body is a palace and it is the House of > God. Within it God kept the Infinite Flame."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "The greatest friend you have is the Divine Power which is looking > after you and doing everything for you."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "It is God who rules, it is He who does, it is He who has created > everything and it is He who enjoys everything."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "Atma is the reflection of Paramatma in our heart. This reflection > is like the sun in water. Although reflection of the sun is in the > water, he is away in the sky and not in the water. Similarly, Atma > is as much as it is seen, it is beyond all that and not limited by > it."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "The Atma (Spirit) resides inside this heart and after Sahaja Yoga >

its light spreads within us in seven layers."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected > to the power that created you."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "Worry about yourself and see the good points of others."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "The representatives of Sada Shiva and Adi Shakti in us are the > Atma and the Kundalini."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "Meditation, where you are connected to the All- pervading > Divinity, is the starting point in Sahaja Yoga."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "When you try to seek the Knowledge you have to become the > Knowledge. The light of Love is so sweet, so beautiful, so > enamoring, so abounding. You can feel that Light within you which > is of pure love, pure relationship and pure

understanding."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "Kundalini is our Mother, we are Her only children and She has been > with us through all our lives just waiting for the moment of > fulfilment."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "It is the Divine love and grace of God which has made you a human > being and it is His grace which is going to make you a supreme > human being in Sahaja Yoga."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "Some are rich, some are poor, these are transitory things. Look > into the heart within and enjoy that Love. With that Love you > elevate and once more rise to greatness."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "We do not know our potential, our beauty, but once this connection > with the mains is established you will be surprised at the results > and the dynamism. Through our love we can absorb the

defects of > others and cleanse them. This is the power of Love. So far we have > never used the power of Love."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "You cannot make your Kundalini pulsate with your mind. The Divine, > if it has to do something, it must be extra-ordinary which human > beings cannot do. To pulsate Kundalini is only possible for the > Divine. It is a living force."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "A spiritual person is just innocent, just innocent. Whatever he > talks or says comes through innocence. It just says what it knows > and what it knows is the highest."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "God is infinite. You don't have to count His aspects. You want to > enjoy Him. The wise simply eat the fruit, they do not count the > leaves, roots and branches."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "It is

very important to understand that without transformation you > have no meaning. Whatever you are, do not identify yourselves with > that, but whatever you want to be, try to be that."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "Spirit is the only thing that is at the center, and at the > periphery if you look at things, they look as if they are separate > and different. But if you can approach somehow into that state > where your Spirit resides, you will be amazed to see that > everything integrates, everything coordinates, and there is no > difference. Say, in Mohammed Sahib, Dattatreya, Raja Janaka or > Shirdi Sai Nath — there is no difference in their principle if you > can just get your Spirit."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "Until you are able to understand the meaning of the "Self", the > physical body would remain imperfect and would be unable to verify

> the Truth. But once the physical instrument is connected with > Truth, you are able to verify the Truth."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "When you become one with the Spirit all your problems will be > solved. A realised person never talks in first person. He becomes > separate from himself leaving aside his desires, his materialistic > ideas."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "Meditation is nothing but the state of remaining in the constant > company of the every-loving Bhagawati."> > [bhagawati is the Primordial Mother — Adi Shakti, Holy Spirit or > Ruh of Allah]> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "Sahaja Yoga is different from the other Yogas because it begins > with Self realisation instead of this being the unobtainable dream > of a distant goal."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "The

essence of all religions is to find the eternal."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "In Sahaja Yoga, you have to understand one simple thing, that you > are the Spirit and whatever is not the Spirit is not yourself."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "God has created man with his Shakti and man has to know Him, and > recognize Him through Kundalini Awakening. Blossom Time has come > and many ancient seekers are today getting their Self-Realisation."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "The object of Sahaja Yoga is basically to become and experience > the spiritual Self."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "It's the culture of God, we are talking about, it's the culture of > His kingdom where we give to others, enjoying, giving, doing for > others, loving others, caring for others without any return."> > Shri Mataji

Nirmala Devi> > "The only thing where you can really hide yourself is the love of > God; where you can really get the great restful, blissful feeling > of His complete protection."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "If in one lifetime you can achieve Self-Realisation and you reach > the point of having begun to lose your habits, then in that very > lifetime, it is possible for you to acquire that so called State. > An established Sahaja Yogi is the one who becomes completely one > with God and wins Him over."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > "This is the Last Judgment. Remember, God will not bow before you. > You have to accomplish Him in your own freedom. If you have not > achieved Him it is not His fault nor is it of Sahaja Yoga."> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi> > > > > > >

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, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

>

> So after much meditation and introspection i realized this:

>

> i) do not waste time on people who deny Me (Adi Shakti) and My

> Divine Message. There are billions who must be told the same truth.

> Pay attention on them and focus on the websites;

>

> ii) do not actively seek the company of non-believers in this

> physical world. Your brothers and sisters here are those

> resurrecting themselves and meditating on Me. Put your attention on

> them as I am active in all their Sahasraras;

>

> iii) do not be attached in any way to those who do not believe in

> Me, and let them slowly drift away from your attention. They can

> even be your own family members or best friends. Remain steadfast

> in your faith as I was, am and forever will be your eternal Friend.

> I am with you at all times, as I have been since time immemorial.

> We are and will always be together at all times. Seek comfort,

> solace and sanctuary in Me only!

>

 

Jesus said, " Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your

pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and

turn and tear you to pieces. " Matthew 7:6

 

" Of course, these words of Jesus are allegorical. I doubt that any

were literally casting pearls before swine. The meaning is pretty

simple to figure out; " Do not persist in offering what is sacred or

of value to those who have no appreciation for it, because your gift

will not only become contaminated and be despised, your generous

efforts could also be rebuffed and perhaps even openly attacked. "

The " dogs " and " swine " here stand for the unappreciative and worldly;

unappreciative and uncaring men and women who belittle the value of

what is offered to them. " (www.bible.ca)

 

 

>

> , preetibala vasthava

> <preetu551@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear brother

> >

> > I am a silent enjoyer of the posts but I must say that this

> > forum has helped me so much getting to know about true meaning of

> > sahaj yoga. Fortunately I live in a remote place where there is no

> > collective. I have grown only with this forum's help and reading

> > some sri mataji's books.

> >

> > I have got a query. Shall we try to give realization to as many

> > as possible? When I give realization ( few friends), they get it.

> > But it seems they had no idea of any divine union or anything like

> > that. To talk about sri mataji's teachings is something which they

> > find difficult to grasp. The same even if this website is

> > introduced to them. I think still our job is not to judge but just

> > do the job without any fear. Gerldin's (t)emplate is beautiful.

> >

> > Thanks again.

> > preeti

> >

>

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

>

> Dear Preeti,

>

> Thank you sister. i am indeed joyful that the forum and website has

> not only nourished and sustained your seeking and deepened your

> faith, but most importantly, made you understand much better what

> Sahaja Yoga really is. That you are all alone and yet Her devotee

> only drives home the point that the Truth of Shri Mataji's teachings

> must be upheld at all times and under any circumstance ...........

> without any human editing!

>

> You queried at a most appropriate time with questions that i have

> just introspected deeply a few weeks ago, and found answers. i

> said " most appropriate time " because i have just overcome a really

> difficult and hurtful event concerning a close family friend that

> took place last month. It was very painful because i realized that

> after all these years he was still denying Shri Mataji, forum and

> websites by believing my children were possessed by evil spirits.

> (That was the only way he could convince himself and his family not

> to believe in Shri Mataji, even though on numerous occasions he felt

> the Cool Breeze and the Mother Kundalini 'physically' moving and

> stopping at his Center Heart or Anahat Chakra.)

>

> So after much meditation and introspection i realized this:

>

> i) do not waste time on people who deny Me (Adi Shakti) and My

> Divine Message. There are billions who must be told the same truth.

> Pay attention on them and focus on the websites;

>

> ii) do not actively seek the company of non-believers in this

> physical world. Your brothers and sisters here are those

resurrecting

> themselves and meditating on Me. Put your attention on them as I am

> active in all their Sahasraras;

>

> iii) do not be attached in any way to those who do not believe in

> Me, and let them slowly drift away from your attention. They can

even

> be your own family members or best friends. Remain steadfast in your

> faith as I was, am and forever will be your eternal Friend. I am

with

> you at all times, as I have been since time immemorial. We are and

> will always be together at all times. Seek comfort, solace and

> sanctuary in Me only!

>

>

> Preeti, that is what i intend to do for the rest of my life. May you

> too learn from what i have realized and want to put into practice.

> And Violet too has posted at a most appropriate time with evidence

> that my introspection and realization is genuine:

>

> " You must have noticed that there are really very few true seekers

in

> this world. Seekers must also realise that they cannot be happy with

> anything else but their Spirit, which is the test of a seeker. A

non-

> seeker can never understand a seeker.

>

> It is very difficult to live with a man or woman who is not a

seeker,

> because you catch all the bad points, and you suffer. If the person

> has ego, you catch it on your Agnya. Nothing happens to him. He is

> very nicely off. He has his ego intact, and he is torturing you. But

> it is better if the person is a seeker, because you can give him

> realisation, and your vibratory awareness can be shared. But to be

> with a non-seeker, can be a very difficult situation.

>

> You cannot make fruit into flower. In your case, you have become the

> fruit, but you must have a flower around, for it to become the

fruit!

> Those who are entangled with problems like 'my father', 'my mother',

> 'my brother' and 'my son', etc. should learn not to get entangled

> with such problems.

>

> Those who are not flowers, should be avoided, forgotten about, and

> lost, because the more you try to improve them, the more entangled

> you will become. They can never improve. I give everyone a big rope.

> If they are not seekers, they they will never be seekers, and you

> cannot inject seeking into them. They may become materially well-

off,

> but they can never become seekers, so just forget about them. You

may

> have to suffer because of them, for if they catch... you will

suffer.

> If they have a nabhi chakra catch, you are the one who will suffer.

> This kind of a person is difficult to change, so do not waste your

> energy. Christ said: " Do not cast your pearls before swine. " You

> cannot force anyone to become a seeker. There are millions of

seekers

> in the world, so forget about such relationships. They may call

> you 'mad', 'crazy' or some other thing, but they will realise one

> thing... that you lead a much better life than they do. You are much

> more peaceful, blissful, dharmic and sane, but they won't accept

your

> life. Play around with them, with the understanding that they cannot

> change, however even if they change mentally, they cannot have the

> urge of a seeker, because nothing is more important than 'seeking'

to

> the seeker! "

>

> [in conclusion, these are the questions that Sahaja Yogis asked Shri

> Mataji Nirmala Devi... and the answers that She gave]:

>

> Question: What about the people who are good people, not seekers,

but

> who have got realisation, but don't seem to see the significance of

> Sahaja Yoga?

>

> Shri Mataji: " They will go out of circulation. Sahaja Yoga rejects

> more than it accepts. It is a judgment going on. Such people will go

> out of realisation. You can talk to them of realisation, give them

> bandhans, etc. for they are the people in whom you could be

> interested, but they are lost, otherwise. By example, butter is made

> out of curd by churning. A little butter comes out, and the rest is

> butter-milk. To separate it, a big lump of butter is put into the

> butter-milk and when it is churned, all the butter collects around

> that big lump and gathers into a large lump of butter. However, some

> particles of butter are left behind. If they do not stick to the

> larger lump of butter, they are thrown away with the butter-milk.

> Those who do not come to Sahaja Yoga and are not 'up to the mark',

> will be thrown out. It is a fact, but you should have 'nirpekshita'

> (no attachment) to such people. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> " Subconscious, Supraconscious and our correct Foundations and

Ideals "

> Chelsham Road, London England - 24 May 1981

>

>

>

> > jagbir singh <adishakti_org@> wrote:

> >

> > " Sahaja Yoga unites the essence of all religions. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " Sahaja Yoga is different from the other Yogas because it begins

> > with Self realisation instead of this being the unobtainable dream

> > of a distant goal. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " Innately, within us, resides the Spirit which wants to enlighten

> > you, to give peace, the bliss and the joy of our being. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " You are yourself and you must see yourself as your Self, as your

> > Spirit. And Spirit is a Universal Being, is the innocence, is the

> > virgin within you. This body is a palace and it is the House of

> > God. Within it God kept the Infinite Flame. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " The greatest friend you have is the Divine Power which is looking

> > after you and doing everything for you. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " It is God who rules, it is He who does, it is He who has created

> > everything and it is He who enjoys everything. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " Atma is the reflection of Paramatma in our heart. This reflection

> > is like the sun in water. Although reflection of the sun is in the

> > water, he is away in the sky and not in the water. Similarly, Atma

> > is as much as it is seen, it is beyond all that and not limited by

> > it. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " The Atma (Spirit) resides inside this heart and after Sahaja Yoga

> > its light spreads within us in seven layers. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected

> > to the power that created you. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " Worry about yourself and see the good points of others. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " The representatives of Sada Shiva and Adi Shakti in us are the

> > Atma and the Kundalini. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " Meditation, where you are connected to the All- pervading

> > Divinity, is the starting point in Sahaja Yoga. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " When you try to seek the Knowledge you have to become the

> > Knowledge. The light of Love is so sweet, so beautiful, so

> > enamoring, so abounding. You can feel that Light within you which

> > is of pure love, pure relationship and pure understanding. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " Kundalini is our Mother, we are Her only children and She has

been

> > with us through all our lives just waiting for the moment of

> > fulfilment. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " It is the Divine love and grace of God which has made you a human

> > being and it is His grace which is going to make you a supreme

> > human being in Sahaja Yoga. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " Some are rich, some are poor, these are transitory things. Look

> > into the heart within and enjoy that Love. With that Love you

> > elevate and once more rise to greatness. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " We do not know our potential, our beauty, but once this

connection

> > with the mains is established you will be surprised at the results

> > and the dynamism. Through our love we can absorb the defects of

> > others and cleanse them. This is the power of Love. So far we have

> > never used the power of Love. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " You cannot make your Kundalini pulsate with your mind. The

Divine,

> > if it has to do something, it must be extra-ordinary which human

> > beings cannot do. To pulsate Kundalini is only possible for the

> > Divine. It is a living force. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " A spiritual person is just innocent, just innocent. Whatever he

> > talks or says comes through innocence. It just says what it knows

> > and what it knows is the highest. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " God is infinite. You don't have to count His aspects. You want to

> > enjoy Him. The wise simply eat the fruit, they do not count the

> > leaves, roots and branches. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " It is very important to understand that without transformation

you

> > have no meaning. Whatever you are, do not identify yourselves with

> > that, but whatever you want to be, try to be that. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " Spirit is the only thing that is at the center, and at the

> > periphery if you look at things, they look as if they are separate

> > and different. But if you can approach somehow into that state

> > where your Spirit resides, you will be amazed to see that

> > everything integrates, everything coordinates, and there is no

> > difference. Say, in Mohammed Sahib, Dattatreya, Raja Janaka or

> > Shirdi Sai Nath — there is no difference in their principle if you

> > can just get your Spirit. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " Until you are able to understand the meaning of the " Self " , the

> > physical body would remain imperfect and would be unable to verify

> > the Truth. But once the physical instrument is connected with

> > Truth, you are able to verify the Truth. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " When you become one with the Spirit all your problems will be

> > solved. A realised person never talks in first person. He becomes

> > separate from himself leaving aside his desires, his materialistic

> > ideas. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " Meditation is nothing but the state of remaining in the constant

> > company of the every-loving Bhagawati. "

> >

> > [bhagawati is the Primordial Mother — Adi Shakti, Holy Spirit or

> > Ruh of Allah]

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " Sahaja Yoga is different from the other Yogas because it begins

> > with Self realisation instead of this being the unobtainable dream

> > of a distant goal. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " The essence of all religions is to find the eternal. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " In Sahaja Yoga, you have to understand one simple thing, that you

> > are the Spirit and whatever is not the Spirit is not yourself. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " God has created man with his Shakti and man has to know Him, and

> > recognize Him through Kundalini Awakening. Blossom Time has come

> > and many ancient seekers are today getting their Self-

Realisation. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " The object of Sahaja Yoga is basically to become and experience

> > the spiritual Self. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " It's the culture of God, we are talking about, it's the culture

of

> > His kingdom where we give to others, enjoying, giving, doing for

> > others, loving others, caring for others without any return. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " The only thing where you can really hide yourself is the love of

> > God; where you can really get the great restful, blissful feeling

> > of His complete protection. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " If in one lifetime you can achieve Self-Realisation and you reach

> > the point of having begun to lose your habits, then in that very

> > lifetime, it is possible for you to acquire that so called State.

> > An established Sahaja Yogi is the one who becomes completely one

> > with God and wins Him over. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " This is the Last Judgment. Remember, God will not bow before you.

> > You have to accomplish Him in your own freedom. If you have not

> > achieved Him it is not His fault nor is it of Sahaja Yoga. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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