On distinguishing the identity between Brahma and Brahman

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagbir,

 

i am not sure of the 'distinguishing identity' between Brahma and Brahman, and

was wondering if you could possibly clarify it. Here is a statement that says

that Brahma the Creator, is not to be confused with Brahman, the Transcendent

Supreme of the Upanishads:

 

" Brahma the Creator is not to be confused with Brahman, the Transcendent Supreme

of the Upanishads. "

 

[The quote comes from the " Hinduism Dictionary on Brahma " ]:

 

Hinduism Dictionary on Brahma - Brahma: (Sanskrit) The name of God in His aspect

of Creator. Saivites consider Brahma, Vishnu and Rudra to be three of five

aspects of Siva. Smartas group Brahma, Vishnu and Siva as a holy trinity in

which Siva is the destroyer.

 

Brahma the Creator is not to be confused with:

 

1) Brahman, the Transcendent Supreme of the Upanishads

 

2) Brahmana, Vedic texts

 

3) brahmana, the Hindu priest caste (also spelled brahmin)

 

http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Brahma/id/58654

 

 

Jagbir, i also have another question in relation to the word 'Brahma' that i

have come across. When Shri Mataji speaks of 'Brahma Chaitanya', i believe that

She is referring to the Divine Vibrations. We know these as coming from the Adi

Shakti, whether without or within us, so is that why She called it 'Brahma

Chaitanya' and not 'Brahman Chaitanya', given that Brahma the Creator is not to

be confused with Brahman, the Transcendent Supreme of the Upanishads?

 

So, in other words, perhaps what i am saying, is that the Adi Shakti is Brahma

the Creator, and Brahman, the Transcendent Supreme of the Upanishads is the

Witness, perhaps, who does not do the work of Creation? Here is the quote i am

referring to, where Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi uses the word 'Brahma Chaitanya'.

It's in relation to this Resurrection and Last Judgment Time, where the Brahma

Chaitanya has been activated in those whose Kundalini has awakened:

 

" And in this Krita Yuga where this Brahma Chaitanya is trying to expose and to

punish people for their past karmas, collectively also, country-wise also,

[this] will not even be able to touch you, because the light of the centre

[Hamsa Chakra; centre of discretion] is extremely powerful, and you will be

redeemed of all the fears of whatever you have done before. You’ll just be

beautiful, like lotuses which have come out of the mire, and you’ll emit

beautiful fragrance all around the world " . (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi – Hamsa

Chakra Puja Synopsis – Vancouver, Canada)

 

Thanks Jagbir. i hope my questions are not overly challenging, and that they

make sense. i just feel that the knowledge needs to be clarifed as best as

possible, so that we can all understand spiritual things a bit better.

 

warmest regards,

 

violet

[Guest guest]

,

" Violet " <violet.tubb wrote:

>

> Dear Jagbir,

>

> i am not sure of the 'distinguishing identity' between Brahma and

Brahman, and was wondering if you could possibly clarify it. Here is

a statement that says that Brahma the Creator, is not to be confused

with Brahman, the Transcendent Supreme of the Upanishads:

>

> " Brahma the Creator is not to be confused with Brahman, the

Transcendent Supreme of the Upanishads. "

>

> [The quote comes from the " Hinduism Dictionary on Brahma " ]:

>

> Hinduism Dictionary on Brahma - Brahma: (Sanskrit) The name of God

in His aspect of Creator. Saivites consider Brahma, Vishnu and Rudra

to be three of five aspects of Siva. Smartas group Brahma, Vishnu

and Siva as a holy trinity in which Siva is the destroyer.

>

> Brahma the Creator is not to be confused with:

>

> 1) Brahman, the Transcendent Supreme of the Upanishads

>

> 2) Brahmana, Vedic texts

>

> 3) brahmana, the Hindu priest caste (also spelled brahmin)

>

> http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Brahma/id/58654

>

>

> Jagbir, i also have another question in relation to the word

'Brahma' that i have come across. When Shri Mataji speaks of 'Brahma

Chaitanya', i believe that She is referring to the Divine

Vibrations. We know these as coming from the Adi Shakti, whether

without or within us, so is that why She called it 'Brahma

Chaitanya' and not 'Brahman Chaitanya', given that Brahma the

Creator is not to be confused with Brahman, the Transcendent Supreme

of the Upanishads?

>

> So, in other words, perhaps what i am saying, is that the Adi

Shakti is Brahma the Creator, and Brahman, the Transcendent Supreme

of the Upanishads is the Witness, perhaps, who does not do the work

of Creation? Here is the quote i am referring to, where Shri Mataji

Nirmala Devi uses the word 'Brahma Chaitanya'. It's in relation to

this Resurrection and Last Judgment Time, where the Brahma Chaitanya

has been activated in those whose Kundalini has awakened:

>

> " And in this Krita Yuga where this Brahma Chaitanya is trying to

expose and to punish people for their past karmas, collectively

also, country-wise also, [this] will not even be able to touch you,

because the light of the centre [Hamsa Chakra; centre of discretion]

is extremely powerful, and you will be redeemed of all the fears of

whatever you have done before. You'll just be beautiful, like

lotuses which have come out of the mire, and you'll emit beautiful

fragrance all around the world " . (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi – Hamsa

Chakra Puja Synopsis – Vancouver, Canada)

>

> Thanks Jagbir. i hope my questions are not overly challenging, and

that they make sense. i just feel that the knowledge needs to be

clarifed as best as possible, so that we can all understand

spiritual things a bit better.

>

> warmest regards,

>

> violet

 

 

Dear Jagbir (and All),

 

i have just found out a quote from Shri Mataji where She says this about Brahma

Chaitanya:

 

" It's all Brahma Chaitanya, which itself in itself creates and sees its own play

and enjoys itself. An analogy can be given like the sea creates the waves and

then sees the waves and enjoys them. So when we are ignorant, with our ego

covered, every wave thinks that, " I'm something great! " . But when they dissolve

in the sea, you can feel it. The vibrations are called... in Sanskrit language,

and that... that vibrations we call it, or pulsation, is what you call as Brahma

Chaitanya. So we have to become one with that and allow it to work it out for

us, everything. So supposing something fails -- if you work out something,

something fails - so we should know it's working something for our good. So you

never will be frustrated and you will see the play of Brahma Chaitanya. " (Shri

Mataji Nirmala Devi - Puja Talk - Bogota, Colombia - 26 June 1989)

 

In another quote, it said that the Brahma Chaitanya is the " activated

all-pervading power " :

 

" So, now a new age has started which is called the Age of Aquarius, (Kumbha)

meaning the pitcher carrier of spiritual holy water that is the work of

Kundalini. The activity of the Kundalini is like the sap of the tree that rises

and nourishes all parts of the tree and does not get stuck at one flower

(centre). Moreover these are special times. This is the resurrection time. The

Last Judgement is done by the Kundalini. On the fingertips one can feel oneself

and can judge oneself. Moreover the all-pervading power has become very

activated, so the Kali Yuga (Modern times) is passing into Krita Yuga of Brahma

Chaitanya (activated all-pervading power). This is helping the en-masse

enlightenment and self realisation. After this will be Satya Yuga (Age of

Truth). We have to take advantage of this activity of the Brahma Chaitanya by

all the time being corrected with the all-pervading power and achieving our

realisation and establishing it. (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - first small English

book - Chapter 2)

 

violet

[Guest guest]

, " Violet "

<violet.tubb wrote:

>

> ,

> " Violet " <violet.tubb@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jagbir,

> >

> > i am not sure of the 'distinguishing identity' between Brahma and

> Brahman, and was wondering if you could possibly clarify it. Here is

> a statement that says that Brahma the Creator, is not to be confused

> with Brahman, the Transcendent Supreme of the Upanishads:

> >

> > " Brahma the Creator is not to be confused with Brahman, the

> Transcendent Supreme of the Upanishads. "

> >

> > [The quote comes from the " Hinduism Dictionary on Brahma " ]:

> >

> > Hinduism Dictionary on Brahma - Brahma: (Sanskrit) The name of God

> in His aspect of Creator. Saivites consider Brahma, Vishnu and Rudra

> to be three of five aspects of Siva. Smartas group Brahma, Vishnu

> and Siva as a holy trinity in which Siva is the destroyer.

> >

> > Brahma the Creator is not to be confused with:

> >

> > 1) Brahman, the Transcendent Supreme of the Upanishads

> >

> > 2) Brahmana, Vedic texts

> >

> > 3) brahmana, the Hindu priest caste (also spelled brahmin)

> >

> > http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Brahma/id/58654

> >

> >

> > Jagbir, i also have another question in relation to the word

> 'Brahma' that i have come across. When Shri Mataji speaks of 'Brahma

> Chaitanya', i believe that She is referring to the Divine

> Vibrations. We know these as coming from the Adi Shakti, whether

> without or within us, so is that why She called it 'Brahma

> Chaitanya' and not 'Brahman Chaitanya', given that Brahma the

> Creator is not to be confused with Brahman, the Transcendent Supreme

> of the Upanishads?

> >

> > So, in other words, perhaps what i am saying, is that the Adi

> Shakti is Brahma the Creator, and Brahman, the Transcendent Supreme

> of the Upanishads is the Witness, perhaps, who does not do the work

> of Creation? Here is the quote i am referring to, where Shri Mataji

> Nirmala Devi uses the word 'Brahma Chaitanya'. It's in relation to

> this Resurrection and Last Judgment Time, where the Brahma Chaitanya

> has been activated in those whose Kundalini has awakened:

> >

> > " And in this Krita Yuga where this Brahma Chaitanya is trying to

> expose and to punish people for their past karmas, collectively

> also, country-wise also, [this] will not even be able to touch you,

> because the light of the centre [Hamsa Chakra; centre of discretion]

> is extremely powerful, and you will be redeemed of all the fears of

> whatever you have done before. You'll just be beautiful, like

> lotuses which have come out of the mire, and you'll emit beautiful

> fragrance all around the world " . (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi – Hamsa

> Chakra Puja Synopsis – Vancouver, Canada)

> >

> > Thanks Jagbir. i hope my questions are not overly challenging, and

> that they make sense. i just feel that the knowledge needs to be

> clarifed as best as possible, so that we can all understand

> spiritual things a bit better.

> >

> > warmest regards,

> >

> > violet

>

>

> Dear Jagbir (and All),

>

> i have just found out a quote from Shri Mataji where She says this

about Brahma Chaitanya:

>

> " It's all Brahma Chaitanya, which itself in itself creates and sees

its own play and enjoys itself. An analogy can be given like the sea

creates the waves and then sees the waves and enjoys them. So when we

are ignorant, with our ego covered, every wave thinks that, " I'm

something great! " . But when they dissolve in the sea, you can feel

it. The vibrations are called... in Sanskrit language, and that...

that vibrations we call it, or pulsation, is what you call as Brahma

Chaitanya. So we have to become one with that and allow it to work it

out for us, everything. So supposing something fails -- if you work

out something, something fails - so we should know it's working

something for our good. So you never will be frustrated and you will

see the play of Brahma Chaitanya. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Puja

Talk - Bogota, Colombia - 26 June 1989)

>

> In another quote, it said that the Brahma Chaitanya is

the " activated all-pervading power " :

>

> " So, now a new age has started which is called the Age of Aquarius,

(Kumbha) meaning the pitcher carrier of spiritual holy water that is

the work of Kundalini. The activity of the Kundalini is like the sap

of the tree that rises and nourishes all parts of the tree and does

not get stuck at one flower (centre). Moreover these are special

times. This is the resurrection time. The Last Judgement is done by

the Kundalini. On the fingertips one can feel oneself and can judge

oneself. Moreover the all-pervading power has become very activated,

so the Kali Yuga (Modern times) is passing into Krita Yuga of Brahma

Chaitanya (activated all-pervading power). This is helping the en-

masse enlightenment and self realisation. After this will be Satya

Yuga (Age of Truth). We have to take advantage of this activity of

the Brahma Chaitanya by all the time being corrected with the all-

pervading power and achieving our realisation and establishing it.

(Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - first small English book - Chapter 2)

>

> violet

>

 

 

 

 

" Brahma is the first god in the Hindu triumvirate, or trimurti. He is

regarded as the senior god and his job was creation. He should not be

mistaken with Brahman, who is the supreme God of all. "

 

Who is Brahma, BBC

 

 

" I am the Brahm-Chaitanya. The Brahm-Chaitanya is the Adi Shakti. And

Sadashiva is also in My heart. But since I am so much humanized it is

not so easy to find it out. If you tell this to modern human beings

they will not understand. It can only be told to Sahaja Yogis because

they will understand. To bear this Truth is so difficult . . . To

bear the fact that I encompass all the incarnations is too difficult

to bear. "

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

Shiva Puja, Bombay, India — February 26, 1987

 

(The Adi Shakti is thus Brahma [Creator], Brahm-Chaitanya [activated

all-pervading power], and the creative aspect of Brahman [the source

or the totality of all other divinities and phenomenon in the

universe.]

 

 

" Reality and Truth are not products of rational or linear thinking.

They are derived from absolute wisdom as it manifests itself

spontaneously, coming from the Light of the Spirit. Prior to

Realization one may or may not agree, but the Truth is that the

Spirit is the reflection of Gof Almighty in our heart. Only after

Self-Realization, and only then, is there a direct experience of the

Spirit. It then manifests its Powers in the human personality, and

it's Light enlightens the consciousness of a new awareness. The

Divine intelligence of the Spirit radiates on all sides. It does not

have a linear movement like rational thinking. It is not partial,

tendentious, or manipulative, but simply like the rays of the sun. It

enlightens every area of darkness and ignorance. The Power of glowing

Reality radiates from the Spirit on all sides, and penetrates into

the deepest questions and problems. The Power of the Spirit is

unlimited and it continues every area, even the most difficult and

obscure. There is no question of it reaching a point where it must

recoil and lead the mind into confusion and error, as the linear

consciousness inevitably does. On the contrary, it enlightens

wherever one's attention goes, and one sees reality with complete

clarity in a balanced and tangible way. This is because reality is

what it is. Unlike the limited ego, the Spirit neither wishes nor

needs to manipulate any idea to fit in with rational projections, to

meet the demands of an argument or of some mental construction. The

trouble is Truth cannot compromise. It stands on its foundations of

deep, pure Love....

 

If one introspects, and says with humility of heart: " I do not yet

know the Truth, but I have to find it " , then, in time, this humility

may be rewarded and one may achieve one's ascent. If this happens,

the person's attention comes into the centre, neither on the left,

nor on the right. That is, neither dominated by his conditionings

from the past nor the orientations of his ambitious ego. Now such a

person is very well suited for Self-Realization, by which he will

know the Truth in its absolute form. "

 

Shri Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi