But if you continue worshipping the physical Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi ...

[Guest guest]

>

> Dennis Choptiany, Markham, Canada: It can be argued that the most

> profound creation that humans have made is God. With it came the

> formation of a vast number of religions and their destructive

> divisions and conflicts. In your opinion, why do people have an

> apparent 'need' for religion and why have religions flourished even

> today when there is more and more evidence of the validity of

> agnostic and atheist views?

>

> Deepak Chopra: Religions have an appeal because human beings have

> the fear of mortality. All religions promise eternal life. In the

> absence of profound knowledge of the workings of the universe, we

> rely on so-called religious authority to answer the deepest

> questions of our existence: who am I, where did I come from, what's

> the meaning and purpose of existence, do I have a soul, what

> happens to me after I die, does God exist, and if God exists does

> God care about me personally.

>

> Unfortunately, religious ideology, dogma and belief systems are no

> longer congruent with what we know about the workings of the

> universe. They are inconsistent with our insights from modern

> cosmology, evolution, biology and the sciences. Hence, religious

> based on primitive belief (and unfortunately, all of them are based

> on primitive beliefs) have become quarrelsome, divisive and

> frequently idiotic.

>

> However, consciousness still remains a mystery. Is our

> consciousness an emergent property of our biology or is

> consciousness the ground of existence that differentiates itself

> and projects itself as reality? This is not a settled issue. The

> current atheists and agnostics, such as Richard Dawkins, for

> example, are espousing an old fashioned 19th century atheism. The

> god they attack can not be defended. My hope is that as science

> progresses and looks at the mystery of consciousness we will see

> the emergence of a new spirituality that is secular and scientific

> and still addresses our deepest longings and our most important

> existential dilemmas.

>

 

 

" Shakti is the hidden power that turns matter into life. She is the

divine spark, the flow of God's love.

 

Anyone who is connected with spirit has Shakti, which manifests in

five ways that the God Herself manifests. (For the sake of simplicity

I will use the word God and apply feminine pronouns whenever I have

the goddess Shakti in mind.) As described in the ancient Shiva

Sutras — " teaching about Shiva " — these are five powers:

 

Chitta Shakti: the awareness of God

Ananda Shakti: the bliss of God

Icha Shakti: the desire or intention to unite with God

Gyana Shakti: knowledge of God

Kriya Shakti: action directed toward God

 

If the voice of God spoke to you, Her powers would be conveyed in

simple, universal phrases:

 

Chitta Shakti: " I am. "

Ananda Shakti: " I am blissful. "

Icha Shakti: " I will " or " I intend. "

Gyana Shakti: " I know. "

Kriya Shakti: " I act. "

 

If a child came to me and asked, " How did God make me? " these five

things would be my answer, because this is how God made Herself, or

at least made Herself known to us, and at each stage of giving birth

a new exclamation of discovery emerged. First She experienced Herself

as existence ( " I am! " ), then creative joy ( " I am blissful! " ), pulsing

desire ( " I will! " ), cosmic mind ( " I know! " ), and finally the shaping

force that molds all things ( " I act!). Because none of these

except " I am " had ever existed before, each came as a revelation.

 

All of these qualities have universal application . . . These five

powers form a cascade, spilling like water from unmanifest spirit to

the material world. Tagore employed almost the same analogy when he

poetically asked, " Where is this fountain that throws out these

flowers in such a ceaseless outbreak of ecstasy? " In one beautiful

line he states the mystery precisely. What is the origin of the

infinite display of nature's abundance? The flowers are outside, but

the fountain is inside, in divine essence. To realize this you must

become that fountain; you must have the assurance that the flow of

life can gush through your being at full force. This state of

connection is supreme existence. When you join the cosmic dance, the

powers of God as creator-mother fully infuse you. " [1]

 

According to Wikipedia " It is said that Brahman cannot be known by

material means, that we cannot be made conscious of it, because

Brahman is our very consciousness. Brahman is also not restricted to

the usual dimensional perspectives of being, and thus enlightenment,

moksha, yoga, samadhi, nirvana, etc. do not merely mean to know

Brahman, but to realise one's 'brahman-hood', to actually realise

that one is and always was of Brahman nature. Indeed, closely related

to the Self concept of Brahman is the idea that it is synonymous with

jiva-atma, or individual souls, our atman (or soul) being readily

identifiable with the greater soul of Brahman. "

 

" Jesus said to them, Is it not written in your law, I said Ye are

gods? " (John 10: 34) Surely, " Ye are gods " is one of the strangest

statements recorded in the Bible. It is one of those verses that

Christians simply pass over time and time again because of its

peculiarity. They do not understand it, but are able to live with

that lack of understanding. God is also not restricted to the usual

dimensional perspectives of being, and thus second birth, born of the

Spirit, gnosis, etc. do not merely mean to know God, but to realise

one's 'god-hood', to actually realise that one is and always was of

god nature. Indeed, closely related to the Self concept of God is the

idea that it is synonymous with individual souls, our soul being

readily identifiable with the greater soul of God.

 

It is the same Self, the same omnipresent and omniscient Spirit of

God that is within all humans. There are different names given by

religious traditions for this same omnipresent and omniscient Divine

Feminine - Adi Shakti, Holy Spirit, Ruh, Tao, Aykaa Mayee or Lalita

Devi. Just choose one you are most comfortable with and meditate on

Her within. You do not need to have any image or perform any ritual

because Brahman is infinite, formless, pure consciousness ...........

and your Self too. i must repeat and emphasize that there must be

absolutely no external images to meditate on, or rituals performed to

initiate worship as Brahman/Divine Feminine is infinite, formless,

pure consciousness ............ and your consciousness too.

 

Thus if you continue worshipping the physical Shri Mataji Nirmala

Devi, notwithstanding that She is the incarnation of this same

omnipresent and omniscient Divine Feminine, you will not be able to

realize your Self. Brahman cannot be known by material means, that we

cannot be made conscious of it, because Brahman/God Almighty is our

very consciousness. This is the consciousness, attained without any

images or rituals, that will see the emergence of a new spirituality

that is secular and scientific and still addresses our deepest

longings and our most important existential dilemmas. So meditate on

the Divine Feminine within and slowly merge your individual

consciousness with this infinite Ocean of Cosmic Conciousness.

 

Jai Shri Ganapathy,

 

jagbir

 

 

[1] Deepak Chopra, The Path of Love

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagbir and all,what can i say for this quote,

may God bless you and thank for this knowlege

have a good day.

 

all my love....

Jay Shri Mataji

your brother isaac in cameroun

 

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

>

> >

> > Dennis Choptiany, Markham, Canada: It can be argued that the most

> > profound creation that humans have made is God. With it came the

> > formation of a vast number of religions and their destructive

> > divisions and conflicts. In your opinion, why do people have an

> > apparent 'need' for religion and why have religions flourished

even

> > today when there is more and more evidence of the validity of

> > agnostic and atheist views?

> >

> > Deepak Chopra: Religions have an appeal because human beings have

> > the fear of mortality. All religions promise eternal life. In the

> > absence of profound knowledge of the workings of the universe, we

> > rely on so-called religious authority to answer the deepest

> > questions of our existence: who am I, where did I come from,

what's

> > the meaning and purpose of existence, do I have a soul, what

> > happens to me after I die, does God exist, and if God exists does

> > God care about me personally.

> >

> > Unfortunately, religious ideology, dogma and belief systems are

no

> > longer congruent with what we know about the workings of the

> > universe. They are inconsistent with our insights from modern

> > cosmology, evolution, biology and the sciences. Hence, religious

> > based on primitive belief (and unfortunately, all of them are

based

> > on primitive beliefs) have become quarrelsome, divisive and

> > frequently idiotic.

> >

> > However, consciousness still remains a mystery. Is our

> > consciousness an emergent property of our biology or is

> > consciousness the ground of existence that differentiates itself

> > and projects itself as reality? This is not a settled issue. The

> > current atheists and agnostics, such as Richard Dawkins, for

> > example, are espousing an old fashioned 19th century atheism. The

> > god they attack can not be defended. My hope is that as science

> > progresses and looks at the mystery of consciousness we will see

> > the emergence of a new spirituality that is secular and

scientific

> > and still addresses our deepest longings and our most important

> > existential dilemmas.

> >

>

>

> " Shakti is the hidden power that turns matter into life. She is the

> divine spark, the flow of God's love.

>

> Anyone who is connected with spirit has Shakti, which manifests in

> five ways that the God Herself manifests. (For the sake of

simplicity

> I will use the word God and apply feminine pronouns whenever I have

> the goddess Shakti in mind.) As described in the ancient Shiva

> Sutras — " teaching about Shiva " — these are five powers:

>

> Chitta Shakti: the awareness of God

> Ananda Shakti: the bliss of God

> Icha Shakti: the desire or intention to unite with God

> Gyana Shakti: knowledge of God

> Kriya Shakti: action directed toward God

>

> If the voice of God spoke to you, Her powers would be conveyed in

> simple, universal phrases:

>

> Chitta Shakti: " I am. "

> Ananda Shakti: " I am blissful. "

> Icha Shakti: " I will " or " I intend. "

> Gyana Shakti: " I know. "

> Kriya Shakti: " I act. "

>

> If a child came to me and asked, " How did God make me? " these five

> things would be my answer, because this is how God made Herself, or

> at least made Herself known to us, and at each stage of giving

birth

> a new exclamation of discovery emerged. First She experienced

Herself

> as existence ( " I am! " ), then creative joy ( " I am blissful! " ),

pulsing

> desire ( " I will! " ), cosmic mind ( " I know! " ), and finally the

shaping

> force that molds all things ( " I act!). Because none of these

> except " I am " had ever existed before, each came as a revelation.

>

> All of these qualities have universal application . . . These five

> powers form a cascade, spilling like water from unmanifest spirit

to

> the material world. Tagore employed almost the same analogy when he

> poetically asked, " Where is this fountain that throws out these

> flowers in such a ceaseless outbreak of ecstasy? " In one beautiful

> line he states the mystery precisely. What is the origin of the

> infinite display of nature's abundance? The flowers are outside,

but

> the fountain is inside, in divine essence. To realize this you must

> become that fountain; you must have the assurance that the flow of

> life can gush through your being at full force. This state of

> connection is supreme existence. When you join the cosmic dance,

the

> powers of God as creator-mother fully infuse you. " [1]

>

> According to Wikipedia " It is said that Brahman cannot be known by

> material means, that we cannot be made conscious of it, because

> Brahman is our very consciousness. Brahman is also not restricted

to

> the usual dimensional perspectives of being, and thus

enlightenment,

> moksha, yoga, samadhi, nirvana, etc. do not merely mean to know

> Brahman, but to realise one's 'brahman-hood', to actually realise

> that one is and always was of Brahman nature. Indeed, closely

related

> to the Self concept of Brahman is the idea that it is synonymous

with

> jiva-atma, or individual souls, our atman (or soul) being readily

> identifiable with the greater soul of Brahman. "

>

> " Jesus said to them, Is it not written in your law, I said Ye are

> gods? " (John 10: 34) Surely, " Ye are gods " is one of the strangest

> statements recorded in the Bible. It is one of those verses that

> Christians simply pass over time and time again because of its

> peculiarity. They do not understand it, but are able to live with

> that lack of understanding. God is also not restricted to the usual

> dimensional perspectives of being, and thus second birth, born of

the

> Spirit, gnosis, etc. do not merely mean to know God, but to realise

> one's 'god-hood', to actually realise that one is and always was of

> god nature. Indeed, closely related to the Self concept of God is

the

> idea that it is synonymous with individual souls, our soul being

> readily identifiable with the greater soul of God.

>

> It is the same Self, the same omnipresent and omniscient Spirit of

> God that is within all humans. There are different names given by

> religious traditions for this same omnipresent and omniscient

Divine

> Feminine - Adi Shakti, Holy Spirit, Ruh, Tao, Aykaa Mayee or Lalita

> Devi. Just choose one you are most comfortable with and meditate on

> Her within. You do not need to have any image or perform any ritual

> because Brahman is infinite, formless, pure

consciousness ...........

> and your Self too. i must repeat and emphasize that there must be

> absolutely no external images to meditate on, or rituals performed

to

> initiate worship as Brahman/Divine Feminine is infinite, formless,

> pure consciousness ............ and your consciousness too.

>

> Thus if you continue worshipping the physical Shri Mataji Nirmala

> Devi, notwithstanding that She is the incarnation of this same

> omnipresent and omniscient Divine Feminine, you will not be able to

> realize your Self. Brahman cannot be known by material means, that

we

> cannot be made conscious of it, because Brahman/God Almighty is our

> very consciousness. This is the consciousness, attained without any

> images or rituals, that will see the emergence of a new

spirituality

> that is secular and scientific and still addresses our deepest

> longings and our most important existential dilemmas. So meditate

on

> the Divine Feminine within and slowly merge your individual

> consciousness with this infinite Ocean of Cosmic Conciousness.

>

> Jai Shri Ganapathy,

>

> jagbir

>

>

> [1] Deepak Chopra, The Path of Love

>