WCASY should focus on 'spiritual property pursuits'

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, " jagbir

singh " <adishakti_org wrote:

 

i just want to expose the hypocrisy and impotence of WCASY who have

> started beating their chests and wielded their 'big stick' NIPC

> (Nirmal Intellectual Property Corporation) against

www.adishakti.org.

 

 

Dear All,

 

So what are WCASY with their 'big stick' NIPC (Nirmal Intellectual Property

Corporation) hoping to gain, by trying to claim not only the spiritual rights,

but also the exclusive legal rights, over what rightly belongs to all Her

children, and which was given to Her devotees especially, with the instruction

that they spread Her Message to All Nations?! What about Her devotees, whom She

said would spread Her Message from outside the organisation, if Her Message were

not given from inside the organisation?! Where do those stand, according to

WCASY and their Nirmal Intellectual Property Corporation? Are these also now to

be prevented from giving Her Message, because WCASY refused to do so first???!!!

 

Alternatively, do WCASY really believe that they have the power to suppress

Christ's Continuing Message of the Last Judgment and Resurrection, which Shri

Mataji Nirmala Devi has given? Do they think Shri Mataji is happy with their

continued limited descriptions of Sahaja Yoga, such as for example, Sahaja Yoga

being a " unique method of meditation " ? Perhaps brains are fatigued from all the

'intellectual property pursuits', when it would behoove their collective soul,

for the rest of their lives, to rather be involved in 'spiritual property

pursuits'. i am serious about this. Those who are pursuing Jagbir like ravaging

hounds, are in spiritual jeopardy. They better watch out, because the Devi goes

before Her devotees, Her ganas!

 

Their energy would be much better spent in contemplating their future spiritual

liberation. Their energy would also be much better spent in upgrading the tired

and worn-out refrain on their website to the public, that " Sahaja Yoga is a

unique method of meditation " . Sahaja Yoga is not a unique meditation! It is the

" Spontaneous Union with the Divine " ! WCASY have not even got these basic facts

right! How can people be attracted to Sahaja Yoga, when it is described as a

Meditation? If Sahaja Yoga is a Meditation, then Christianity, Buddhism,

Sikhism, Islam and others must be a Meditation also! But they don't describe

themselves that way! At least THEY realise that they are a proper religion, and

that Meditation is only one aspect of that. However WCASY do not realise the

same, with regards to Sahaja Yoga! They seem to want Sahaja Yoga to be a

Meditation, rather than a proper Vishwa Nirmala Dharma!

 

It's incomprehensible, which is why i would like to explore how WCASY on their

official website present Sahaja Yoga to a spiritually thirsty and hungry world.

Here it is:

 

" Sahaja Yoga is a unique method of meditation based on an experience called Self

Realization (Kundalini awakening) that can occur within each human being.

Through this process an inner transformation takes place by which one becomes

moral, united, integrated and balanced. One can actually feel the all pervading

divine power as a cool breeze, as described in all religions and spiritual

traditions of the world. This is the actualization of such transformation, which

is taking place now, worldwide, and has been proved and experienced by hundreds

of thousands in over 90 countries. It is entirely free of charge, as one cannot

pay for the experience of Divine Love. "

(http://www.sahajayoga.org/)

 

WCASY say: " Sahaja Yoga is a unique method of meditation. "

 

[sahaja Yoga is actually one's union with the Divine; not meditation per se. If

a person does not have their union with the Divine, they will not get the

meditational results.]

 

WCASY say Sahaja Yoga is: " based on an experience called Self Realisation

(Kundalini awakening) that can occur within each human being. "

 

['Sahaja Yoga' is " union with the Divine " . 'Kundalini Awakening' and

'Self-Realisation' are just different terms for the same experience. If you want

to put the three terms, involved in the same experience, in sequence, you could

say that firstly, the Kundalini awakens and arises in the person. Secondly, that

She then gives the person their Union with the Divine, their Sahaja Yoga.

Thirdly, that the person then starts to realise their Self, who they really

are!]

 

WCASY say: " Through this process an inner transformation takes place by which

one becomes moral, united, integrated and balanced. "

 

[Can you call a relationship, in this instance the 'union with the Divine' a

process? It can be. However, the connecting line of love to the " Divine Within "

needs to be there first. Otherwise, no process will work, no matter how much

hard work is put into it. If the relationship with the Divine is not

established, if the love is not there, the process won't work. It is the same

with any relationship.]

 

WCASY say: " One can actually feel the all pervading divine power as a cool

breeze, as described in all religions and spiritual traditions of the world. "

 

[That is good. Why not go a bit further though, and actually quote some of those

scriptures, such as from the Bible, and Koran, regarding the Cool Breeze. Jagbir

has done much, much more. i am sure WCASY would do well, by using Jagbir as an

example of how to really clarify Shri Mataji's teachings, by actually quoting

Scripture... yes on the Official Website! Surely, that will not hurt, will it?!]

 

WCASY says: " This is the actualization of such transformation, which is taking

place now, worldwide, and has been proved and experienced by hundreds of

thousands in over 90 countries. "

 

[so where are the testimonies of the people who have experienced these

transformations. These testimonies should be right up front, so people can

believe what is being said! People are not so interested in the organisation

being proud that it has proved something, or that it operates in over 90

countries. They are more interested in what Sahaja Yoga might do for them. For

that, there needs a much more detailed approach, i would think. i am surprised

it is not here, at the front of the website. This spiel sounds too official,

really... like you want to add 'numbers' to an organisation. Where is the love?

That is what people really want!!!]

 

WCASY say: " It is entirely free of charge, as one cannot pay for the experience

of Divine Love. "

 

[i think most people know that you cannot pay for Divine Love. This sounds so

official, like an organisation that has lost its love for people, like an

organisation that has lost its 'personal touch'.]

 

In conclusion, there needs to be the spiritual fire, wind, air, earth, and ether

coming out of the realised ones, in other words, the spiritual vibrations! Read

Jagbir's website and learn WCASY, for you have a great deal to learn! But

firstly, you must stop torturing your fellow brothers and sisters! The

world-at-large cannot be attracted to Her Message through yourselves, when you

are torturing others. You have first to have your inner transformation, rather

than trying to dominate from outside! That is basic that you talk about, but

seem to fail to live up to!!! Another basic, is that you have to live what you

preach, otherwise people will not believe in what you say.

 

with love and concern,

 

violet

 

 

 

> Dear All,

>

> i just want to expose the hypocrisy and impotence of WCASY who have

> started beating their chests and wielded their 'big stick' NIPC

> (Nirmal Intellectual Property Corporation) against

www.adishakti.org.

>

> However i have just found out that despite all their war cries and

> threats of agression, they have been powerless to stop Dr. Larry

> Jensen from laughing all the way to his bank. i quote:

>

> " My good friend Shri Mataji, the founder of Sahaja Yoga, refers to

> Kundalini as the reflection of divine desire within us. She refers

> to the Holy Spirit of our Christian tradition as the Primordial

> Mother, sometimes also known as the Adi Shakti in the Indian

> tradition. " By crossing the fontanelle bone (the little fountain)

on

> top of our heads, the Kundalini actualizes self-realization, our

> second birth or baptism. … This is the very same wind of the Holy

> Ghost that Christ's disciples felt at Pentecost. Before this

> experience, the Kundalini is dormant, and so only virtual. Once it

> is awakened and self-realization is established in us, it enables

the

> breath of God to become reality. " ...

>

> This ground-breaking DVD can be found at www.LoveWithoutEnd.com (see

> Dr. Larry Jensen, DVDs). For more information about Dr. Jensen and

> the original Way of Jeshua, see:

>

> www.OriginalChurch.org.

>

>

> You may also mail a check to:

>

> POB 1455 Sedona, AZ 86336

>

> Make checks payable to Dr. Larry Jensen and don't forget to include

> your address and phone number on any written correspondence. " (end)

>

>

> The entire article by Dr. Larry Jensen is appended at the end of

this

> post. It insults my intelligence that WCASY and NIPC think they are

> the legal guardians of Shri Mataji's intellectual property and

owners

> of Her Will. But they can't even stop Dr. Larry Jensen from laughing

> all the way to his bank! Despite all their so-called 'powers' it is

> clear that these emperors have no clothes. Apparently only those

> empowering them are blind and brainwashed to think otherwise.

>

> But as i keep repeating, time is on Her side .......... and mine

too.

> All we need is the patience and perseverence to endure all till the

> camel dies from the thirst of truth. i assure you that it will die!

>

> regards to all,

>

> jagbir

>

>

> -------------

>

> " How Deepak Chopra got into trouble with Sahaja Yoga "

>

> Dear Chandra,

>

> i recall the shoe-beating session quite well because so many types

of

> baddies were beaten by SYs. Before each baddie was punished his or

> her crime(s) were read out loud and clear. So as a honored juror of

> such an esteemed kangaroo court (and i don't mean Australia) i had

to

> quickly judge the seriousness of the crime and calculate the number

> of shoebeats with my size 12 shoes as fit punishment. i remember

> whacking the daylights out of corrupt lawyers, politicians, doctors,

> dentists, IRS (Internal Revenue Service) and, of course, false

gurus.

>

> (But before we come to Deepak Chopra) i subsequently asked SYs the

> reason for shoebeating when there are better alternatives. Why

> shoebeat a man beating his disobedient dog when it is more effective

> to approach and reprimand him? i always believed shoebeating was a

> primitive club for those unable to understand more subtle ways like

> being thoughtless or paying attention or surrendering entire problem

> to Her. Now we have evidence that Shri Mataji's original aim was for

> certain SYs to shoebeat their own egos, another corruption of Her

> teachings that over the years degenerated into a collective court to

> try and judge the guilty. i said " guilty " because all brought before

> this collective court ARE GUILTY. It is only the punishment that

> needs to be meted out by the judge, jury and executioner.

>

> So when it came to Deepak Chopra's turn he was read, in abstentia, a

> list of his crimes. The SYogini was quite angry that he had copied

SY

> techniques and was regularly seen laughing all the way to his bank.

> This SYogini was so pissed that she and other SYs were making plans

> to petition Shri Mataji that this intellectual bandit was robbing

Her

> in broad daylight. Since Shri Mataji was not aware despite being the

> Adi Shakti, these SYs were going to draw up a list of items stolen

> from Sahaja Yoga. They wanted to enlighten Shri Mataji of such an

> infamous thief of truth, as well as remind that She is seriously

> lacking vigilance. There were no specifics Chandra, just a vague

> accusation that Deepak Chopra was not only robbing Sahaja Yoga of

> intellectual property but souls as well, souls which could be better

> served and saved by subtle system SYs.

>

> But i refused to shoebeat because it was such a ridiculous

accusation.

> i admire Deepak Chopra for his academic background, his field of

> expertise, clarity of communication and impeccable as well as

> exquisitely precise English. He can easily qualify as the Queen's

> Council for spiritual law and defend the Divine. Only fools will

> accuse him of stealing spiritual property. But then who am i to

> challenge their wisdom and vibrations?

>

> regards,

>

> jagbir

>

> >

> , " jagbir singh "

> <adishakti_org@> wrote:

> > >

> > > " Contrary to what SYs may think as ignorance, i am aware of this

> > > Chopra controversy. That was when i attended the Shri Adi Shakti

> > > Puja, June 18 - 20, 1999 at Canajoharie, New York.

> > >

> > > i remember the collective shoe-beating session which was

followed

> > > by me till it came to Chopra. The SYogini explained that Shri

> > > Mataji was told about how Chopra was copying Sahaja Yoga and its

> > > techniques.

> > >

> > > i found it difficult to comprehend exactly how Chopra had done

so

> > > because i used to browse so many books at stores in my search

for

> > > Truth. i never found any resemblance to Sahaja Yoga. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> > , " my2 pai " <my2pai@>

> wrote:

> >

> > In introductory talks, Shri Mataji used to talk about the gap

> > between two thoughts where exists thoughtless awareness,

nirvichara.

> > This is really quite an ancient idea. Note this quotation from the

> > Jnana Vasishtha: " Between two thoughts there is an interval of no

> > thought. That interval is the Self, the Atman. It is pure

Awareness

> > only. " (The Maharshi, Jul/Aug 1991,

> > http://arunachala.org/newsletters/web-pages/)

> > >

> >

> > Dear Jagbir,

> >

> > I would like to pick up on your puzzlement over how Deepak Chopra

> has copied Sahaja Yoga and its techniques. Have you ever asked the

> Sahaja Yogis who had spread the allegation to specify exactly how

and

> in what way Deepak Chopra had infringed SY copyrights, as it were?

> Even if you have done that, my bet is that nobody was able to give

> you a satisfactory answer although everybody would tell you that

> Deepak Chopra is a baddie who has cheated Sahaja Yoga by copying

SY's

> copyrighted techniques. In other words Sahaja Yogis regard Deepak

> Chopra as a crook based on the vague notion that he has plagiarized

> > Sahaja Yoga even though nobody can say exactly how. Although we

> Sahaja Yogis regard ourselves as " enlightened " people it is indeed

> ironical that we can tolerate and even participate in this kind of

> calumny and slander.

> >

> > I shall now cut to the chase, so to speak. Deepak Chopra published

> several motivational books in the nineties, probably the same ones

> you used to browse in the stores. In one of the books he introduced

a

> system of meditation which he called " mindfullness. " He explained

> this type of meditation by referring to the gap between two thoughts

> where one experiences thoughtless awareness. His system of

meditation

> teaches the meditator to expand this area of thoughtless awareness.

> Sounds familiar? Of course this is also what Sahaja Yoga teaches.

But

> this hardly makes Deepak Chopra a copycat. As I quoted in my

previous

> post, no. 8219, and extracted above, this idea of the gap between

two

> thoughts is ancient scriptural knowledge. But no matter. The cry

went

> out: Deepak Chopra was copying Sahaja Yoga and its techniques!

> >

> > There is every likelihood that Deepak Chopra had never heard of

> Sahaja Yoga much less copied its techniques. If anyone approaches

him

> to tell him about his purported plagiarism he would probably respond

> with a LOL (laughing out loud). If he is in a less amiable mood

there

> is a wide selection of more rude and insulting Internet

abbreviations

> for him to choose from. The joke is really on us Sahaja Yogis. If we

> practise Sahaja Yoga like ignoramuses, totally unaware and unmindful

> of our scriptural antecedents this is the kind of morass we will

fall

> into, a folly of our own making. What we need is real awareness and

> indeed, mindfullness. Coming to think of it, many of our Sahaja

Yogis

> could well benefit from Deepak Chopra's mindfullness meditation.

LOL.

> >

> > Chandra

> >

>

>

> Kundalini: Passion of the Holy Spirit

> By Dr. Larry Jensen Ph.D., MBA, D.D.

>

> What is expressed here cannot be truly understood. It is beyond the

> realm of the analytical, sequential, thinking mind! Fortunately,

> through the motivation I hope to inspire in this article, it can be

> directly experienced, and only then known.

>

> In 1980, I was already acknowledged as one of the leading innovators

> and creators in the field of human potential. My celebrated,

cutting-

> edge work was achieving exciting results with individuals, small

> select groups, and with very large audiences. Yet nothing could

> prepare me for what was about to happen when one evening " the

ceiling

> opened up, the floor caved in, and the winds of Heaven blew in! " My

> life was flooded with a transformational energy that I would not

> fully assimilate for nine months. From that moment on, my life and

> work would never be the same. This was my Kundalini, Holy Spirit,

> awakening. In the future, my service to others would be from the

> inside out as a connection point of Holy Spirit into the world. My

> work exploded into a new dimension and my abilities to facilitate

> growth and transformation were dramatically magnified. However, I

do

> not take personal credit for this. This is the work of Kundalini, a

> spiritual passion of the Holy Spirit that ignites higher evolution

> and enlightenment.

>

> This is your birthright also, to be awakened to the higher essence

> within. This is the energy of the spontaneous spiritual emergence.

> It is the ultimate passion, where body and soul are united as divine

> creative energy. This is the passion which changes everything.

>

> In the West we have been conditioned to believe that Holy Spirit is

> the serene background to our active lives, which we find within our

> hearts and within our quiet moments of prayer and meditation.

> However, if we look at the traditions of spirituality and wisdom

from

> other parts of the world, and even the Gnostic beliefs of early

> Christians, we will find a very different story. In these

> traditions, Holy Spirit is anything but passive. It is the very

fire

> that ignites Divine Revelation.

>

> In the words of Jeshua (Jesus Christ, Jesus was never his name

during

> his life): " These things I have spoken to you, while I am still with

> you. But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send

> in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your

> remembrance all that I have said to you. " John 14:25-26

>

> The spiritual practices of early Christian Gnostics were more like

> Eastern traditions than Western Christianity as we know it

> today. " Gnostic " is Greek for " knower " and it is " Gnosis " (or

> knowledge), they were seeking. Unlike the blind faith demanded by

> most Churches today, 'Gnosis' means direct, mystical experience of

> the Divine, which blossoms through individual spiritual evolution

> into self-realization. This cannot be found intellectually or

within

> the confines of dogma. The experience of Gnosis is trans-rational

> and non-intellectual.

>

> From the Nag Hammadi Library, in the Book of Thomas, Jeshua tells

> us " For whoever does not know self, does not know anything, but

> whoever knows self, already has acquired knowledge about the depth

of

> the universe. " Compare this with a tract from the Upanishads, the

> ancient Indian metaphysical treatise on self-realization: " It is not

> by argument that the Self is known... Distinguish the Self from the

> body and mind. The Self, the atman, the highest refuge of all,

> pervades the universe and dwells in the hearts of all. Those who

are

> instructed in the Self and who practice constant meditation attain

> that changeless and Self-effulgent atman (Spirit/Self). Do thou

> likewise, for bliss eternal lies before you... "

>

> In another secret Gnostic text, Jeshua promises us spiritual

> fulfillment " I shall give you what no eye has seen, what no ear has

> heard, what no hand has touched and what has never arisen in the

> human mind. " This description is not unlike the Upanishadic

> experience " The Self is devoid of birth and death, it neither grows

> old nor decays, and the accidents of life do not affect it. The

Self

> transcends space and time; what is great is not too great for it to

> comprehend and what is small is not too small to escape its

> attention. It is the Self of All. "

>

> The Gnostic " Gospels " say there is in everyone a divine power

> existing in a latent condition. This, the root of the universe, is

> one power divided above and below, generating itself, making itself

> grow, seeking itself, finding itself, being mother of itself, father

> of itself, sister of itself, spouse of itself, and daughter of

> itself. That infinite power exists in two modes: one actual, the

> other potential. " The Kingdom of God is within you. " (Luke 17:21).

>

> What Jeshua called Holy Spirit, is known as Kundalini in India.

> Kundalini has been universally recognized as the conveyer of Divine

> Activation. Other traditions, by other names, have also

acknowledged

> its power. The Greeks referred to this energy as " Pneuma, " Islam

> speaks of " Rh, " and in Jewish mysticism it was known as " Shekkina. "

> Long before that, the Sumerians worshipped the Mother Goddess

Inanna,

> who gives spiritual birth and the sacred breath. Several thousand

> years ago, " Chaitanya " and " The Self, " literally translated

> as " divine vibrations " according to Sahaja Yoga. Knowledge of these

> divine vibrations is very ancient; it has merely been distorted or

> lost over the ages.

>

> My good friend Shri Mataji, the founder of Sahaja Yoga, refers to

> Kundalini as the reflection of divine desire within us. She refers

> to the Holy Spirit of our Christian tradition as the Primordial

> Mother, sometimes also known as the Adi Shakti in the Indian

> tradition. " By crossing the fontanelle bone (the little fountain)

on

> top of our heads, the Kundalini actualizes self-realization, our

> second birth or baptism. … This is the very same wind of the Holy

> Ghost that Christ's disciples felt at Pentecost. Before this

> experience, the Kundalini is dormant, and so only virtual. Once it

> is awakened and self-realization is established in us, it enables

the

> breath of God to become reality. "

>

> Traditionally, the knowledge of this energy has been a closely

> guarded secret, revealed by Spiritual Masters to only a few close

and

> select initiates. It tends to be spoken of in veiled symbolic

> language, if it is spoken of at all. Buddha spoke of the " middle

> path " to achieve nirvana as he described the central channel

> (sushumna) through which this Essence ascends. Later Buddhist

> masters considered that the existence of the path of liberation

> within a human being was the greatest secret which was only to be

> transmitted to a few " deserving " disciples.

>

> Kundalini is actually a power within and available to everyone. I am

> often asked " does it always require a God-conscious, enlightened

> Master to activate and initiate Kundalini " ? My answer is

> always " no. " However, it helps immensely. Just as the phenomenon of

> spontaneous combustion occurs (although rarely) in the physical

> world, Kundalini activation may also occur spontaneously (although

> even more rarely). Imagine yourself as a candle. Would you hope

> that somehow you would light yourself? Or would you work with

> another unlit candle to light yourself? Or would you go to a lit

> candle and let the spark of the lit candle ignite you?

>

> The predicament of most human beings is to identify with lower mind-

> consciousness, which is trapped in matter. Fortunately, there are

> greater dimensions of consciousness yet to be revealed! Through

> intense prayer, meditation, and unconditional love, these buried

> sparks of human consciousness can be fanned into a blazing fire and

> liberated from their imprisonment in the darkness of ignorance.

Both

> personal and collective consciousness can be raised until it rests

in

> the crown from whence the experiencer attains ecstatic visions and

> realizes his own divine nature.

>

> The transformation from matter and darkness, to spirit and light, is

> universally acknowledged as the task of Kundalini, the Divine

> Consciousness or Essence within us. The strength of the inner

energy

> of wholeness - the " Whole-E Spirit " is what allows us to expand

> infinitely so that we can see the whole universe within ourselves.

> Then, we no longer remain a limited, bound creature as we achieve

> total union with Universal Consciousness, to stand self reliant,

> unshakeable, and inviolate in the innocence of our integrity.

>

> The " Inner Whole-E Spirit " is there to nourish, to heal, to look

> after; and, to give an individual a higher and deeper individuality.

> The manifested power of Kundalini, Holy Spirit, is absolute purity,

> auspiciousness, self respect, pure love, detachment, concern for

> others; and, enlightened attention giving infinite joy and peace to

> an individual (and through that individual, to the world.)

>

> Although we can engage in appropriate practices for its cultivation,

> the awakening of Kundalini is something we cannot preconceive. It

is

> a gift of Divine Essence caressing and awakening the great love and

> inner power in which we were created. We discover it through

> acceptance of the greater spiritual power within ourselves as we

> reach for radical honesty - emotionally, socially, and spiritually.

>

> Dr. Larry Jensen, Ph.D., M.B.A., D.D.

> Dr. Jensen is the Archbishop of Spiritis Church (the original Church

> founded by Christ and his Apostles.)

> Dr. Jensen has been a moving force in many of the major spiritual

and

> psychological programs. He was the co-creator and co-founder of

> Lifespring (over a million graduates world-wide). He is a past

> president of SAGE Seminars and Alpha Dynamics Institute, and was

> chief consultant to Mind Dynamics. He was a consultant to Jose

Silva

> of Silva Mind Control and Werner Erhard of EST. Dr. Jensen

developed

> the Psychogenesis® Process and is the creator and founder of ASSET®

> (Awareness, Sensitivity, Spiritual Enlightenment, and

> Transformation) - the most advanced psychological and spiritual

> growth seminar known.

>

>

> His latest contribution is " The Holy Spirit, Kundalini Activation

and

> Initiation (two-disc DVD) Program, " in which the viewer is offered

an

> actual experience of Kundalini awakening. Kundalini, known in the

> West as Holy Spirit, operates unconsciously until awakened through

> Initiation, activating the process of spiritual growth and

> enlightenment; and, advancing personal evolution dramatically. This

> ground-breaking DVD can be found at www.LoveWithoutEnd.com (see Dr.

> Larry Jensen, DVDs). For more information about Dr. Jensen and the

> original Way of Jeshua, see:

>

> www.OriginalChurch.org.

>

>

>

> You may also mail a check to:

>

> POB 1455 Sedona, AZ 86336

>

> Make checks payable to Dr. Larry Jensen and don't forget to include

> your address and phone number on any written correspondence.

>

>

> Kundalini

>

> Passion of the Holy Spirit

>

> By Dr. Larry Jensen Ph.D., MBA, D.D.

>

> http://www.larryjensen.com/Kundalini_HolySpirit.htm

>