How does one discard all the organization and useless activites and seek her only in the Sahasrara?

[Guest guest]

, " KYYAN " <v_koa

wrote:

 

> Dear all,

>

> I just want to say this is the first time i have read full messages

> from Tiger and it just blew my mind. The quote below of Jagbir's

> hit me extremely deeply as well, super deeply if that's correct

> english.

>

> The messages from Tiger really ring in tune with Shri Mataji's

> speehes on earth, as though its another one. All the things she

> says makes so much sense. I have always had this feeling the more i

> spent time in SY(almost 2 years now) that not only are her speeches

> of GREAT importance and very important to our ascent personally,

> (much more then any subtle system stuff, or collective puja's or

> realize tours etc) but also that the organization of SY are far

> removed from any of the the knowledge there in, less a video

> watched weekly, and its that very kowledge that is the essence of

> Shri Mataji...not the collectives, not the puja's, not the

> treatments, not the subtle system and not all the other activities

> that Sy's are into religiously. A friend of mine once said it seems

> like SY is turning into the Church. Reading Tiger's message brings

> home the realit of what SY is and should be and what one must focus

> his attention on from now on, his/her own ascent and giving those

> looking their connection and the truth of it all. Dare i go out on

> a limb and say, the rest seem to have become rituals and things

> done within an organization to be a good Sy.

>

> Seeking her in the sahastrara seems to make perfect sense, since

> all chakras are there, all dieties are there, and of course Shri

> Mataji is there. WHy bother having your attention on your other

> chakras, when you can access them through the place where Shri

> Mataju herself is at all times. Amazing.

>

> Question is, and iask it......how does one discard all the

> organization and useless activites and seek her only in the

> Sahastrara? I have no idea how that is done? any suggestion Jagbir

>

> Thank you

>

> Kyyan

>

> =====

> Moreover, Shri Mataji assures us that She will always find a way to

> communicate with us i.e., from the Sahasrara where She resides.

> Maybe some of us may have missed a subtle point: She will always

> find a way to communicate with us ............. and it is not going

> to be through WCASY, the SY leadership or organization!

>

> mighty oaks from little acorns grow,

>

> jagbir

>

 

 

 

Question: How does one discard all the organization and useless

activates and seek her only in the Sahastrara?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I am still unable to rid myself of catches and other chakra

problems despite years of daily footsoaking and treatments. What do I

do now?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I am far from a Sahaja Yoga collective. How do I continue

practicing Sahaja Yoga?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: My collective leader has told me to leave Sahaja Yoga due

to some personal problems. What do I do now?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: Despite being years in Sahaja Yoga I do not agree with what

our leaders are doing. I am thinking of leaving my collective. Can

you suggest something that will help me continue on my own?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I am a Muslim who absolutely am against worshipping of any

idol or image. How then is Sahaja Yoga and Shri Mataji compatible

with Islam?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: We are devout Christians who are very uncomfortable with

Hindu rituals, and see the same in Sahaja Yoga. Is there any way we

can do without such rituals?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: You loudly claim on your website that all religions and

holy scriptures preach the same message. I don't see such evidence.

What have you got to say?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I do not want to meditate on anything non-Christian but

agree that the Holy Spirit is feminine. How do I only worship the

Holy Spirit but not the Adi Shakti?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: My parents and husband are against worshipping Shri Mataji.

How can I solve this serious family problem but still continue to

practice Sahaja Yoga without their knowledge?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I completely agree with your belief that if you have to

take a single step in any direction to seek the Divine you are going

the wrong way. How and why did you reach this incredible conclusion

only now despite spending so many years meditating, checking the

scriptures and listening to Shri Mataji's speeches?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: How can we spread Shri Mataji's message successfully? So

many have failed all these years and Sahaja Yoga is very slow. Most

of the seekers have never heard of Shri Mataji. Other than Her Divine

Message what can we teach new seekers that will attract them?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I do not want to follow any religious organization or yoga

teacher but still am interested in spirituality. You think that is

possible?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: My mother-in-law is totally against Shri Mataji and regards

Her as just another false guru. But I know Shri Mataji is the Adi

Shakti and want to continue. However, i do not want to antagonize my

mother-in-law. Any suggestions?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I am a Sikh. I am completely against any Hindu ritual or

worshipping of their idols and gods. Sikhism is completely against

such practices. But Sahaja Yoga is also so full of such rituals and

gods. What have you got to say, being a Sikh yourself?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I am getting somewhat ridiculed for my own spiritual

experiences regarding the crown chakra and the divine feminine.

People think I'm weird by emphasizing that the Devi is the true

nature of brahman and it is creating doubt about my path (despite my

own experiences). Should I continue with my meditations and ignore

them or try to explain to them? What do you suggest?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: There is so much information about yoga and meditation. I

am so confused and do not know which path to take. What then is the

truth? How do I attain it?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I have been in Sahaja Yoga for years but still do not know

what is Self-realization. Can you tell me in detail what you

understand by it?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I have been a SY for many years and some of us find shoe-

beating and some rituals quite absurd. You also are against them. How

then can we solve our subtle system problems without such treatments?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I am a Muslim living in Pakistan who want to practice

Sahaja Yoga. But there are no centers here. How can I continue?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: What will happen after Shri Mataji passes away? Will She

still be in the photograph? Where will the vibrations come from then?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I have just started meditating on Shri Mataji in the

Sahasrara but find it very difficult. Is there a better way?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I do not want to join Sahaja Yoga but believe in a number

of Shri Mataji's teachings. Can you help me?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I am an established SYogini who am concerned at the way the

organization is heading. However, I still want to spread Shri

Mataji's teachings. What do you suggest I tell others?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I want to practice meditation but find it impossible to

stop the thoughts. I value you opinion. If you don't mind my asking,

but how do you do it?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: What is the shortest and surest route to realize God?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: Some religions claim that humans are divine in nature and

that liberation is from within. Can you tell me how all this is

realized in such a hectic and materialistic world?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: As a SY I am concerned that after Shri Mataji takes

Mahasamadhi there will great grief and sense of loss. How can I cope

with this eventuality and continue my faith and devotion? Do I

continue to meditate on Her photo even though She is not physically

present anymore?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: Jagbir, you are already telling us to discard Shri Mataji's

photo and meditate on Her is the Sahasrara. A number of SYs have been

offended by this and have left the forum. What makes you so sure you

are right?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: What is the most profound and deepest enlightenment you

have discovered after all these years, based on the teachings of Shri

Mataji? She also claims that all religions teach the same truth about

the spirit. How is that so given all the religious differences and

centuries-old rivalry?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: Hi, man-made religions, sects and denominations are wide

spread. So much misdeeds and divisions are committed and blood is

shed in the name of God and religion. Is there a way to make humans

realize that they are all worshipping the One and same Creator, no

matter how different religious have made God to be?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: It seems that religions are all preaching about a God that

is to be found only in their organizations. Why then is it that the

Divine can only be realized through one’s own experience? What and

where is God then?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

[Guest guest]

Hahahahahahahahahhhahahahahaaaa! Nice one Jagbir!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Question: How does one discard all the organization and useless

> activates and seek her only in the Sahastrara?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I am still unable to rid myself of catches and other chakra

> problems despite years of daily footsoaking and treatments. What do I

> do now?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I am far from a Sahaja Yoga collective. How do I continue

> practicing Sahaja Yoga?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: My collective leader has told me to leave Sahaja Yoga due

> to some personal problems. What do I do now?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: Despite being years in Sahaja Yoga I do not agree with what

> our leaders are doing. I am thinking of leaving my collective. Can

> you suggest something that will help me continue on my own?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I am a Muslim who absolutely am against worshipping of any

> idol or image. How then is Sahaja Yoga and Shri Mataji compatible

> with Islam?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: We are devout Christians who are very uncomfortable with

> Hindu rituals, and see the same in Sahaja Yoga. Is there any way we

> can do without such rituals?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: You loudly claim on your website that all religions and

> holy scriptures preach the same message. I don't see such evidence.

> What have you got to say?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I do not want to meditate on anything non-Christian but

> agree that the Holy Spirit is feminine. How do I only worship the

> Holy Spirit but not the Adi Shakti?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: My parents and husband are against worshipping Shri Mataji.

> How can I solve this serious family problem but still continue to

> practice Sahaja Yoga without their knowledge?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I completely agree with your belief that if you have to

> take a single step in any direction to seek the Divine you are going

> the wrong way. How and why did you reach this incredible conclusion

> only now despite spending so many years meditating, checking the

> scriptures and listening to Shri Mataji's speeches?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: How can we spread Shri Mataji's message successfully? So

> many have failed all these years and Sahaja Yoga is very slow. Most

> of the seekers have never heard of Shri Mataji. Other than Her Divine

> Message what can we teach new seekers that will attract them?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I do not want to follow any religious organization or yoga

> teacher but still am interested in spirituality. You think that is

> possible?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: My mother-in-law is totally against Shri Mataji and regards

> Her as just another false guru. But I know Shri Mataji is the Adi

> Shakti and want to continue. However, i do not want to antagonize my

> mother-in-law. Any suggestions?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I am a Sikh. I am completely against any Hindu ritual or

> worshipping of their idols and gods. Sikhism is completely against

> such practices. But Sahaja Yoga is also so full of such rituals and

> gods. What have you got to say, being a Sikh yourself?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I am getting somewhat ridiculed for my own spiritual

> experiences regarding the crown chakra and the divine feminine.

> People think I'm weird by emphasizing that the Devi is the true

> nature of brahman and it is creating doubt about my path (despite my

> own experiences). Should I continue with my meditations and ignore

> them or try to explain to them? What do you suggest?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: There is so much information about yoga and meditation. I

> am so confused and do not know which path to take. What then is the

> truth? How do I attain it?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I have been in Sahaja Yoga for years but still do not know

> what is Self-realization. Can you tell me in detail what you

> understand by it?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I have been a SY for many years and some of us find shoe-

> beating and some rituals quite absurd. You also are against them. How

> then can we solve our subtle system problems without such treatments?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I am a Muslim living in Pakistan who want to practice

> Sahaja Yoga. But there are no centers here. How can I continue?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: What will happen after Shri Mataji passes away? Will She

> still be in the photograph? Where will the vibrations come from then?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I have just started meditating on Shri Mataji in the

> Sahasrara but find it very difficult. Is there a better way?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I do not want to join Sahaja Yoga but believe in a number

> of Shri Mataji's teachings. Can you help me?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I am an established SYogini who am concerned at the way the

> organization is heading. However, I still want to spread Shri

> Mataji's teachings. What do you suggest I tell others?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I want to practice meditation but find it impossible to

> stop the thoughts. I value you opinion. If you don't mind my asking,

> but how do you do it?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: What is the shortest and surest route to realize God?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: Some religions claim that humans are divine in nature and

> that liberation is from within. Can you tell me how all this is

> realized in such a hectic and materialistic world?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: As a SY I am concerned that after Shri Mataji takes

> Mahasamadhi there will great grief and sense of loss. How can I cope

> with this eventuality and continue my faith and devotion? Do I

> continue to meditate on Her photo even though She is not physically

> present anymore?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: Jagbir, you are already telling us to discard Shri Mataji's

> photo and meditate on Her is the Sahasrara. A number of SYs have been

> offended by this and have left the forum. What makes you so sure you

> are right?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: What is the most profound and deepest enlightenment you

> have discovered after all these years, based on the teachings of Shri

> Mataji? She also claims that all religions teach the same truth about

> the spirit. How is that so given all the religious differences and

> centuries-old rivalry?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: Hi, man-made religions, sects and denominations are wide

> spread. So much misdeeds and divisions are committed and blood is

> shed in the name of God and religion. Is there a way to make humans

> realize that they are all worshipping the One and same Creator, no

> matter how different religious have made God to be?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: It seems that religions are all preaching about a God that

> is to be found only in their organizations. Why then is it that the

> Divine can only be realized through one's own experience? What and

> where is God then?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Adam,

 

That was a nice hearty laugh, Adam! [LOL!] i agree! 'That was a nice One

Jagbir!' It shows that in essence the Divine is within, and all answers

ultimately come from within! NOT FROM WITHOUT!!!

 

violet

 

 

,

" adam332412 " <lunduner1 wrote:

>

> Hahahahahahahahahhhahahahahaaaa! Nice one Jagbir!

>

> Question: How does one discard all the organization and useless

> > activates and seek her only in the Sahastrara?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: I am still unable to rid myself of catches and other

chakra

> > problems despite years of daily footsoaking and treatments. What

do I

> > do now?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: I am far from a Sahaja Yoga collective. How do I

continue

> > practicing Sahaja Yoga?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: My collective leader has told me to leave Sahaja Yoga

due

> > to some personal problems. What do I do now?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: Despite being years in Sahaja Yoga I do not agree with

what

> > our leaders are doing. I am thinking of leaving my collective.

Can

> > you suggest something that will help me continue on my own?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: I am a Muslim who absolutely am against worshipping of

any

> > idol or image. How then is Sahaja Yoga and Shri Mataji compatible

> > with Islam?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: We are devout Christians who are very uncomfortable

with

> > Hindu rituals, and see the same in Sahaja Yoga. Is there any way

we

> > can do without such rituals?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: You loudly claim on your website that all religions and

> > holy scriptures preach the same message. I don't see such

evidence.

> > What have you got to say?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: I do not want to meditate on anything non-Christian but

> > agree that the Holy Spirit is feminine. How do I only worship the

> > Holy Spirit but not the Adi Shakti?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: My parents and husband are against worshipping Shri

Mataji.

> > How can I solve this serious family problem but still continue to

> > practice Sahaja Yoga without their knowledge?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: I completely agree with your belief that if you have to

> > take a single step in any direction to seek the Divine you are

going

> > the wrong way. How and why did you reach this incredible

conclusion

> > only now despite spending so many years meditating, checking the

> > scriptures and listening to Shri Mataji's speeches?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: How can we spread Shri Mataji's message successfully?

So

> > many have failed all these years and Sahaja Yoga is very slow.

Most

> > of the seekers have never heard of Shri Mataji. Other than Her

Divine

> > Message what can we teach new seekers that will attract them?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: I do not want to follow any religious organization or

yoga

> > teacher but still am interested in spirituality. You think that

is

> > possible?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: My mother-in-law is totally against Shri Mataji and

regards

> > Her as just another false guru. But I know Shri Mataji is the Adi

> > Shakti and want to continue. However, i do not want to

antagonize my

> > mother-in-law. Any suggestions?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: I am a Sikh. I am completely against any Hindu ritual

or

> > worshipping of their idols and gods. Sikhism is completely

against

> > such practices. But Sahaja Yoga is also so full of such rituals

and

> > gods. What have you got to say, being a Sikh yourself?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: I am getting somewhat ridiculed for my own spiritual

> > experiences regarding the crown chakra and the divine feminine.

> > People think I'm weird by emphasizing that the Devi is the true

> > nature of brahman and it is creating doubt about my path

(despite my

> > own experiences). Should I continue with my meditations and

ignore

> > them or try to explain to them? What do you suggest?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: There is so much information about yoga and

meditation. I

> > am so confused and do not know which path to take. What then is

the

> > truth? How do I attain it?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: I have been in Sahaja Yoga for years but still do not

know

> > what is Self-realization. Can you tell me in detail what you

> > understand by it?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: I have been a SY for many years and some of us find

shoe-

> > beating and some rituals quite absurd. You also are against

them. How

> > then can we solve our subtle system problems without such

treatments?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: I am a Muslim living in Pakistan who want to practice

> > Sahaja Yoga. But there are no centers here. How can I continue?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: What will happen after Shri Mataji passes away? Will

She

> > still be in the photograph? Where will the vibrations come from

then?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: I have just started meditating on Shri Mataji in the

> > Sahasrara but find it very difficult. Is there a better way?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: I do not want to join Sahaja Yoga but believe in a

number

> > of Shri Mataji's teachings. Can you help me?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: I am an established SYogini who am concerned at the

way the

> > organization is heading. However, I still want to spread Shri

> > Mataji's teachings. What do you suggest I tell others?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: I want to practice meditation but find it impossible to

> > stop the thoughts. I value you opinion. If you don't mind my

asking,

> > but how do you do it?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: What is the shortest and surest route to realize God?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: Some religions claim that humans are divine in nature

and

> > that liberation is from within. Can you tell me how all this is

> > realized in such a hectic and materialistic world?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: As a SY I am concerned that after Shri Mataji takes

> > Mahasamadhi there will great grief and sense of loss. How can I

cope

> > with this eventuality and continue my faith and devotion? Do I

> > continue to meditate on Her photo even though She is not

physically

> > present anymore?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: Jagbir, you are already telling us to discard Shri

Mataji's

> > photo and meditate on Her is the Sahasrara. A number of SYs have

been

> > offended by this and have left the forum. What makes you so sure

you

> > are right?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: What is the most profound and deepest enlightenment you

> > have discovered after all these years, based on the teachings of

Shri

> > Mataji? She also claims that all religions teach the same truth

about

> > the spirit. How is that so given all the religious differences

and

> > centuries-old rivalry?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: Hi, man-made religions, sects and denominations are

wide

> > spread. So much misdeeds and divisions are committed and blood is

> > shed in the name of God and religion. Is there a way to make

humans

> > realize that they are all worshipping the One and same Creator,

no

> > matter how different religious have made God to be?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

> >

> > Question: It seems that religions are all preaching about a God

that

> > is to be found only in their organizations. Why then is it that

the

> > Divine can only be realized through one's own experience? What

and

> > where is God then?

> >

> > Answer: Silence on Self

> >

>