All Holy Scriptures uphold the Self as Spirit, for Self is God

[Guest guest]

Dear devotees of the Adi Shakti,

 

Namaste - i bow to the Self that resides in you!

 

So what can we make out of Jesus' claim that " Ye are gods " ? What has

it got to do with second birth (Kundalini awakening)? What is their

relationship with Shri Mataji's Self-realization? What is the Self

actually, and how is it realized? To answer these questions i have

quoted Brian Hodgkinson:

 

The Self as Spirit

 

Vedanta accepts this logical introduction to the enquiry into the

self. Self as subject should never be confused with any object.

Anything that the self observes cannot be self. Can anything positive

then be said of it? The Brihadaranyaka Upanishad has a great deal to

say about the self. For example:

 

`This Self is nearer than all else, dearer than son, dearer than

wealth, dearer than anything. If a man call anything dearer than

Self, say that he will lose what is dear, of certainty he will lose

it; for Self is God. Therefore one should worship Self as Love. Who

worships Self his love shall never perish … This Self is the Lord of

all beings; as spokes are knit together in the hub, all things, all

gods, all men, all lives, are bodies, are knit together in that Self. "

 

(pp. 121, 135)

 

`He wanted every form, for He wanted to show Himself; as a magician

He appears in many forms, He masters hundreds of thousands of powers.

He is those powers; those millions of powers. He is Spirit; without

antecedent, without precedent, without inside, without outside;

omnipresent, omniscient. Self is Spirit. That is revelation.'

 

(p. 136)

 

The connection between these two passages lies in the assertion that

self is spirit. Self is dear, self is to be worshipped, self is love,

because it is spirit. What can be observed is material. Things in

space, including human bodies, are material, made of gross elements;

things in the mind are subtle, made of finer material and observable

as imagined objects or thoughts, feelings and emotions; but the

witness of them all, of all materiality, is of a different order. It

is spirit. To know that spirit is revelation. To know that spirit is

not to know an object; it is to realize that one is spirit.

 

Brian Hodgkinson, The Essence of Vedanta,

Arcturus Publishing Ltd., Canada, pg. 42-3

 

All the Holy Scriptures - Torah, Bible, Qur'an, Upanishads, Vedas,

Puranas, Granth Sahib - uphold the Self as Spirit, the essence and

presence of the Divine in humans. That is why Jesus answered them in

the temple, " Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? " .

Self-realization is a slow process of confirming the same divinity

i.e., realizing the Divine within humans. No external images, rituals

or human contacts whatsoever are needed for this inner journey to

realize and meditate in the Kingdom of God within. The Self also

overcomes the deep divisions and sheer ignorance that ail all

religious and spiritual organizations, including Sahaja Yoga, for

Self is God. And when you maintain Silence on your Self you are

always in meditation, prayer and contact with God Almighty!

 

regards to all,

 

jagbir

 

 

Question: How does one discard all the (Sahaja Yoga) organization and

useless activites and seek her (Holy Spirit/Adi Shakti) only in the

Sahastrara (Kingdom of God)?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I am still unable to rid myself of catches and other chakra

problems despite years of daily footsoaking and treatments. What do I

do now?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I am far from a Sahaja Yoga collective. How do I continue

practicing Sahaja Yoga?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: My collective leader has told me to leave Sahaja Yoga due

to some personal problems. What do I do now?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: Despite being years in Sahaja Yoga I do not agree with what

our leaders are doing. I am thinking of leaving my collective. Can

you suggest something that will help me continue on my own?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I am a Muslim who absolutely am against worshipping of any

idol or image. How then is Sahaja Yoga and Shri Mataji compatible

with Islam?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: We are devout Christians who are very uncomfortable with

Hindu rituals, and see the same in Sahaja Yoga. Is there any way we

can do without such rituals?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: You loudly claim on your website that all religions and

holy scriptures preach the same message. I don't see such evidence.

What have you got to say?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I do not want to meditate on anything non-Christian but

agree that the Holy Spirit is feminine. How do I only worship the

Holy Spirit but not the Adi Shakti?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: My parents and husband are against worshipping Shri Mataji.

How can I solve this serious family problem but still continue to

practice Sahaja Yoga without their knowledge?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I completely agree with your belief that if you have to

take a single step in any direction to seek the Divine you are going

the wrong way. How and why did you reach this incredible conclusion

only now despite spending so many years meditating, checking the

scriptures and listening to Shri Mataji's speeches?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: How can we spread Shri Mataji's message successfully? So

many have failed all these years and Sahaja Yoga is very slow. Most

of the seekers have never heard of Shri Mataji. Other than Her Divine

Message what can we teach new seekers that will attract them?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I do not want to follow any religious organization or yoga

teacher but still am interested in spirituality. You think that is

possible?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: My mother-in-law is totally against Shri Mataji and regards

Her as just another false guru. But I know Shri Mataji is the Adi

Shakti and want to continue. However, i do not want to antagonize my

mother-in-law. Any suggestions?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I am a Sikh. I am completely against any Hindu ritual or

worshipping of their idols and gods. Sikhism is completely against

such practices. But Sahaja Yoga is also so full of such rituals and

gods. What have you got to say, being a Sikh yourself?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I am getting somewhat ridiculed for my own spiritual

experiences regarding the crown chakra and the divine feminine.

People think I'm weird by emphasizing that the Devi is the true

nature of brahman and it is creating doubt about my path (despite my

own experiences). Should I continue with my meditations and ignore

them or try to explain to them? What do you suggest?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: There is so much information about yoga and meditation. I

am so confused and do not know which path to take. What then is the

truth? How do I attain it?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I have been in Sahaja Yoga for years but still do not know

what is Self-realization. Can you tell me in detail what you

understand by it?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I have been a SY for many years and some of us find shoe-

beating and some rituals quite absurd. You also are against them. How

then can we solve our subtle system problems without such treatments?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I am a Muslim living in Pakistan who want to practice

Sahaja Yoga. But there are no centers here. How can I continue?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: What will happen after Shri Mataji passes away? Will She

still be in the photograph? Where will the vibrations come from then?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I have just started meditating on Shri Mataji in the

Sahasrara but find it very difficult. Is there a better way?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I do not want to join Sahaja Yoga but believe in a number

of Shri Mataji's teachings. Can you help me?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I am an established SYogini who am concerned at the way the

organization is heading. However, I still want to spread Shri

Mataji's teachings. What do you suggest I tell others?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: I want to practice meditation but find it impossible to

stop the thoughts. I value you opinion. If you don't mind my asking,

but how do you do it?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: What is the shortest and surest route to realize God?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: Some religions claim that humans are divine in nature and

that liberation is from within. Can you tell me how all this is

realized in such a hectic and materialistic world?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: As a SY I am concerned that after Shri Mataji takes

Mahasamadhi there will great grief and sense of loss. How can I cope

with this eventuality and continue my faith and devotion? Do I

continue to meditate on Her photo even though She is not physically

present anymore?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: Jagbir, you are already telling us to discard Shri Mataji's

photo and meditate on Her is the Sahasrara. A number of SYs have been

offended by this and have left the forum. What makes you so sure you

are right?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: What is the most profound and deepest enlightenment you

have discovered after all these years, based on the teachings of Shri

Mataji? She also claims that all religions teach the same truth about

the spirit. How is that so given all the religious differences and

centuries-old rivalry?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: Hi, man-made religions, sects and denominations are wide

spread. So much misdeeds and divisions are committed and blood is

shed in the name of God and religion. Is there a way to make humans

realize that they are all worshipping the One and same Creator, no

matter how different religious have made God to be?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

 

 

Question: It seems that religions are all preaching about a God that

is to be found only in their organizations. Why then is it that the

Divine can only be realized through one’s own experience? What and

where is God then?

 

Answer: Silence on Self

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagbir (and All),

 

i have never read this fact, put into 'better words':

 

" All the Holy Scriptures - Torah, Bible, Qur'an, Upanishads, Vedas, Puranas,

Granth Sahib - uphold the Self as Spirit, the essence and presence of the Divine

in humans. That is why Jesus answered them in the temple, " Is it not written in

your law, I said, Ye are gods? " . Self-realization is a slow process of

confirming the same divinity i.e., realizing the Divine within humans. No

external images, rituals or human contacts whatsoever are needed for this inner

journey to realize and meditate in the Kingdom of God within. The Self also

overcomes the deep divisions and sheer ignorance that ail all religious and

spiritual organizations, including Sahaja Yoga, for Self is God. And when you

maintain Silence on your Self you are always in meditation, prayer and contact

with God Almighty! "

 

Just reading it, leaves one in such utter Silence and peace! The words have

simplicity and power! Thank you for this gift.

 

Btw. could you possibly put this post into Holy Spirit/Shekinah, or even the

above excerpt. i am sure the Christians will appreciate it! That is, if you

don't mind.

 

Thanks!

 

violet

 

 

 

> Dear devotees of the Adi Shakti,

>

> Namaste - i bow to the Self that resides in you!

>

> So what can we make out of Jesus' claim that " Ye are gods " ? What

has

> it got to do with second birth (Kundalini awakening)? What is their

> relationship with Shri Mataji's Self-realization? What is the Self

> actually, and how is it realized? To answer these questions i have

> quoted Brian Hodgkinson:

>

> The Self as Spirit

>

> Vedanta accepts this logical introduction to the enquiry into the

> self. Self as subject should never be confused with any object.

> Anything that the self observes cannot be self. Can anything

positive

> then be said of it? The Brihadaranyaka Upanishad has a great deal

to

say about the self. For example:

>

> `This Self is nearer than all else, dearer than son, dearer than

> wealth, dearer than anything. If a man call anything dearer than

> Self, say that he will lose what is dear, of certainty he will lose

> it; for Self is God. Therefore one should worship Self as Love. Who

> worships Self his love shall never perish … This Self is the Lord

of

> all beings; as spokes are knit together in the hub, all things, all

> gods, all men, all lives, are bodies, are knit together in that

Self. "

>

> (pp. 121, 135)

>

> `He wanted every form, for He wanted to show Himself; as a magician

> He appears in many forms, He masters hundreds of thousands of

powers.

> He is those powers; those millions of powers. He is Spirit; without

> antecedent, without precedent, without inside, without outside;

> omnipresent, omniscient. Self is Spirit. That is revelation.'

>

> (p. 136)

>

> The connection between these two passages lies in the assertion

that

> self is spirit. Self is dear, self is to be worshipped, self is

love,

> because it is spirit. What can be observed is material. Things in

> space, including human bodies, are material, made of gross

elements;

> things in the mind are subtle, made of finer material and

observable

> as imagined objects or thoughts, feelings and emotions; but the

> witness of them all, of all materiality, is of a different order.

It

> is spirit. To know that spirit is revelation. To know that spirit

is

> not to know an object; it is to realize that one is spirit.

>

> Brian Hodgkinson, The Essence of Vedanta,

> Arcturus Publishing Ltd., Canada, pg. 42-3

>

> All the Holy Scriptures - Torah, Bible, Qur'an, Upanishads, Vedas,

> Puranas, Granth Sahib - uphold the Self as Spirit, the essence and

> presence of the Divine in humans. That is why Jesus answered them

in

> the temple, " Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? " .

> Self-realization is a slow process of confirming the same divinity

> i.e., realizing the Divine within humans. No external images,

rituals

> or human contacts whatsoever are needed for this inner journey to

> realize and meditate in the Kingdom of God within. The Self also

> overcomes the deep divisions and sheer ignorance that ail all

> religious and spiritual organizations, including Sahaja Yoga, for

> Self is God. And when you maintain Silence on your Self you are

> always in meditation, prayer and contact with God Almighty!

>

> regards to all,

>

> jagbir

>

>

> Question: How does one discard all the (Sahaja Yoga) organization

and

> useless activites and seek her (Holy Spirit/Adi Shakti) only in the

> Sahastrara (Kingdom of God)?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I am still unable to rid myself of catches and other

chakra

> problems despite years of daily footsoaking and treatments. What

do

I

> do now?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I am far from a Sahaja Yoga collective. How do I continue

> practicing Sahaja Yoga?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: My collective leader has told me to leave Sahaja Yoga due

> to some personal problems. What do I do now?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: Despite being years in Sahaja Yoga I do not agree with

what

> our leaders are doing. I am thinking of leaving my collective. Can

> you suggest something that will help me continue on my own?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I am a Muslim who absolutely am against worshipping of

any

> idol or image. How then is Sahaja Yoga and Shri Mataji compatible

> with Islam?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: We are devout Christians who are very uncomfortable with

> Hindu rituals, and see the same in Sahaja Yoga. Is there any way we

> can do without such rituals?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: You loudly claim on your website that all religions and

> holy scriptures preach the same message. I don't see such evidence.

> What have you got to say?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I do not want to meditate on anything non-Christian but

> agree that the Holy Spirit is feminine. How do I only worship the

> Holy Spirit but not the Adi Shakti?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: My parents and husband are against worshipping Shri

Mataji.

> How can I solve this serious family problem but still continue to

> practice Sahaja Yoga without their knowledge?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I completely agree with your belief that if you have to

> take a single step in any direction to seek the Divine you are

going

> the wrong way. How and why did you reach this incredible conclusion

> only now despite spending so many years meditating, checking the

> scriptures and listening to Shri Mataji's speeches?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: How can we spread Shri Mataji's message successfully? So

> many have failed all these years and Sahaja Yoga is very slow. Most

> of the seekers have never heard of Shri Mataji. Other than Her

Divine

> Message what can we teach new seekers that will attract them?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I do not want to follow any religious organization or

yoga

> teacher but still am interested in spirituality. You think that is

> possible?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: My mother-in-law is totally against Shri Mataji and

regards

> Her as just another false guru. But I know Shri Mataji is the Adi

> Shakti and want to continue. However, i do not want to antagonize

my

> mother-in-law. Any suggestions?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I am a Sikh. I am completely against any Hindu ritual or

> worshipping of their idols and gods. Sikhism is completely against

> such practices. But Sahaja Yoga is also so full of such rituals and

> gods. What have you got to say, being a Sikh yourself?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I am getting somewhat ridiculed for my own spiritual

> experiences regarding the crown chakra and the divine feminine.

> People think I'm weird by emphasizing that the Devi is the true

> nature of brahman and it is creating doubt about my path (despite

my

> own experiences). Should I continue with my meditations and ignore

> them or try to explain to them? What do you suggest?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: There is so much information about yoga and meditation. I

> am so confused and do not know which path to take. What then is the

> truth? How do I attain it?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I have been in Sahaja Yoga for years but still do not

know

> what is Self-realization. Can you tell me in detail what you

> understand by it?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I have been a SY for many years and some of us find shoe-

> beating and some rituals quite absurd. You also are against them.

How

> then can we solve our subtle system problems without such

treatments?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I am a Muslim living in Pakistan who want to practice

> Sahaja Yoga. But there are no centers here. How can I continue?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: What will happen after Shri Mataji passes away? Will She

> still be in the photograph? Where will the vibrations come from

then?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I have just started meditating on Shri Mataji in the

> Sahasrara but find it very difficult. Is there a better way?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I do not want to join Sahaja Yoga but believe in a number

> of Shri Mataji's teachings. Can you help me?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I am an established SYogini who am concerned at the way

the

> organization is heading. However, I still want to spread Shri

> Mataji's teachings. What do you suggest I tell others?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: I want to practice meditation but find it impossible to

> stop the thoughts. I value you opinion. If you don't mind my

asking,

> but how do you do it?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: What is the shortest and surest route to realize God?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: Some religions claim that humans are divine in nature and

> that liberation is from within. Can you tell me how all this is

> realized in such a hectic and materialistic world?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: As a SY I am concerned that after Shri Mataji takes

> Mahasamadhi there will great grief and sense of loss. How can I

cope

> with this eventuality and continue my faith and devotion? Do I

> continue to meditate on Her photo even though She is not physically

> present anymore?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: Jagbir, you are already telling us to discard Shri

Mataji's

> photo and meditate on Her is the Sahasrara. A number of SYs have

been

> offended by this and have left the forum. What makes you so sure

you

> are right?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: What is the most profound and deepest enlightenment you

> have discovered after all these years, based on the teachings of

Shri

> Mataji? She also claims that all religions teach the same truth

about

> the spirit. How is that so given all the religious differences and

> centuries-old rivalry?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: Hi, man-made religions, sects and denominations are wide

> spread. So much misdeeds and divisions are committed and blood is

> shed in the name of God and religion. Is there a way to make humans

> realize that they are all worshipping the One and same Creator, no

> matter how different religious have made God to be?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>

>

> Question: It seems that religions are all preaching about a God

that

> is to be found only in their organizations. Why then is it that the

> Divine can only be realized through one's own experience? What and

> where is God then?

>

> Answer: Silence on Self

>