Guest guest Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 Dear 'pahana caveman', i see that you have sent to the moderators for approval, the '16th Message of the Mother': " pahana_caveman " <pahana_caveman Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:01 am Re: The 16th Message of the Mother!!! Pahana, i am very sorry to say that i cannot approve it, without first knowing where the message comes from, and through whom it is coming. We just cannot take any chances, and i am sure you must understand that fact. We just cannot jeopardise 'this happening'. i am not saying you are not a genuine person, and i am not saying that it is not a genuine message. You and the message are probably both genuine. However, there is a process in place, that we have to follow, to ensure that false personalities and false messages are not brought on the forum, by mistake. The process itself, helps to prevent that from happening. So i have forwarded the message to Igor for him to authenticate it, and when it is authenticated, perhaps we can make it the very next message to be put on the forum, after the 5th Message of the Mother, which is coming very soon, next day or so!!! So, please don't be put off, or disappointed OKAY. If the message is genuine (and i hope it is) it will probably be the very next one that Igor and i will collaborate to put on the forum. OKAY!!! best regards, violet P.S. Btw, could you possibly tell us your identity and where you got the message from. It would be nice to know. Thanks, violet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 Dear Violet, This is the same mad person who calls himself Shri Kalki. i have read his so-called 16th letter and it is so obvious that it is fake. This subject should not even have been brought on the forum as it confuses members. And if you check the end of Shri Kalki's letter you will see this: " Your Loving Mother! All My benedictions tem, who will do it! on October, 16 2007 " In other words, this letter is yet to be written six days from today! All his nonsense just makes no sense. regards, jagbir BTW, i have deleted this mad Kalki's emails. , " Violet " <violet.tubb wrote: > > > Dear 'pahana caveman', > > i see that you have sent to the moderators for approval, the '16th Message of the Mother': > > " pahana_caveman " <pahana_caveman > Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:01 am > Re: The 16th Message of the Mother!!! > > Pahana, i am very sorry to say that i cannot approve it, without first knowing where the message comes from, and through whom it is coming. We just cannot take any chances, and i am sure you must understand that fact. We just cannot jeopardise 'this happening'. i am not saying you are not a genuine person, and i am not saying that it is not a genuine message. You and the message are probably both genuine. However, there is a process in place, that we have to follow, to ensure that false personalities and false messages are not brought on the forum, by mistake. The process itself, helps to prevent that from happening. > > So i have forwarded the message to Igor for him to authenticate it, and when it is authenticated, perhaps we can make it the very next message to be put on the forum, after the 5th Message of the Mother, which is coming very soon, next day or so!!! > > So, please don't be put off, or disappointed OKAY. If the message is genuine (and i hope it is) it will probably be the very next one that Igor and i will collaborate to put on the forum. > > OKAY!!! > > best regards, > > violet > > P.S. Btw, could you possibly tell us your identity and where you got the message from. It would be nice to know. Thanks, violet. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 Dear Jagbir, Sorry about that. i seem to have missed the vital clues, indicating it was from a false person. regards, violet , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > Dear Violet, > > This is the same mad person who calls himself Shri Kalki. i have read > his so-called 16th letter and it is so obvious that it is fake. This > subject should not even have been brought on the forum as it confuses > members. And if you check the end of Shri Kalki's letter you will see > this: > > " Your Loving Mother! > All My benedictions tem, who will do it! > > on October, 16 2007 " > > > In other words, this letter is yet to be written six days from today! > All his nonsense just makes no sense. > > regards, > > jagbir > > BTW, i have deleted this mad Kalki's emails. > > > , " Violet " > <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear 'pahana caveman', > > > > i see that you have sent to the moderators for approval, the '16th > Message of the Mother': > > > > " pahana_caveman " <pahana_caveman@> > > Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:01 am > > Re: The 16th Message of the Mother!!! > > > > Pahana, i am very sorry to say that i cannot approve it, without > first knowing where the message comes from, and through whom it is > coming. We just cannot take any chances, and i am sure you must > understand that fact. We just cannot jeopardise 'this happening'. i > am not saying you are not a genuine person, and i am not saying that > it is not a genuine message. You and the message are probably both > genuine. However, there is a process in place, that we have to > follow, to ensure that false personalities and false messages are not > brought on the forum, by mistake. The process itself, helps to > prevent that from happening. > > > > So i have forwarded the message to Igor for him to authenticate it, > and when it is authenticated, perhaps we can make it the very next > message to be put on the forum, after the 5th Message of the Mother, > which is coming very soon, next day or so!!! > > > > So, please don't be put off, or disappointed OKAY. If the message > is genuine (and i hope it is) it will probably be the very next one > that Igor and i will collaborate to put on the forum. > > > > OKAY!!! > > > > best regards, > > > > violet > > > > P.S. Btw, could you possibly tell us your identity and where you > got the message from. It would be nice to know. Thanks, violet. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 Dear Violet, While meditating i realized that had you not replied to pahana_caveman this elaborate deception by Richard Embleton would not have been exposed. It is just by 'sheer luck' that Igor and company got the whole thing mixed up. But i know Shri Mataji has Her ways of exposing falsehood. i am happy you were instrumental in unwittingly exposing them, unpleasant and embarassing though the whole episode may have been. Violet, i take back my words and ask for forgiveness. Please accept them. Thank you. warmest regards, jagbir , " Violet " <violet.tubb wrote: > > Dear Jagbir, > > Sorry about that. i seem to have missed the vital clues, indicating > it was from a false person. > > regards, > > violet > > > > , " jagbir > singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > Dear Violet, > > > > This is the same mad person who calls himself Shri Kalki. i have > read > > his so-called 16th letter and it is so obvious that it is fake. > This > > subject should not even have been brought on the forum as it > confuses > > members. And if you check the end of Shri Kalki's letter you will > see > > this: > > > > " Your Loving Mother! > > All My benedictions tem, who will do it! > > > > on October, 16 2007 " > > > > > > In other words, this letter is yet to be written six days from > today! > > All his nonsense just makes no sense. > > > > regards, > > > > jagbir > > > > BTW, i have deleted this mad Kalki's emails. > > > > > > , " Violet " > > <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear 'pahana caveman', > > > > > > i see that you have sent to the moderators for approval, the > '16th > > Message of the Mother': > > > > > > " pahana_caveman " <pahana_caveman@> > > > Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:01 am > > > Re: The 16th Message of the Mother!!! > > > > > > Pahana, i am very sorry to say that i cannot approve it, without > > first knowing where the message comes from, and through whom it is > > coming. We just cannot take any chances, and i am sure you must > > understand that fact. We just cannot jeopardise 'this happening'. i > > am not saying you are not a genuine person, and i am not saying > that > > it is not a genuine message. You and the message are probably both > > genuine. However, there is a process in place, that we have to > > follow, to ensure that false personalities and false messages are > not > > brought on the forum, by mistake. The process itself, helps to > > prevent that from happening. > > > > > > So i have forwarded the message to Igor for him to authenticate > it, > > and when it is authenticated, perhaps we can make it the very next > > message to be put on the forum, after the 5th Message of the > Mother, > > which is coming very soon, next day or so!!! > > > > > > So, please don't be put off, or disappointed OKAY. If the message > > is genuine (and i hope it is) it will probably be the very next one > > that Igor and i will collaborate to put on the forum. > > > > > > OKAY!!! > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > violet > > > > > > P.S. Btw, could you possibly tell us your identity and where you > > got the message from. It would be nice to know. Thanks, violet. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 Dear Jagbir, i accept your apologies. As you know, i have been in the 'thick of it', corresponding with Igor. i give people the benefit of the doubt, unless i have evidence otherwise. With most people, deception is easily picked up. With rakshasas, it is not, as i understand that they have been in high spiritual estate before, but have fallen from that (like Lucifer, the 'angel of light' did) but from my understanding, they get to retain the spiritual knowledge they once had, and they can use it then, to deceive others, which they do. They do not like to lose the power of the spiritual position they once had. Jagbir, i am glad that this has been exposed. Innocence exposes everyone eventually. They are given fair treatment, relax, and let their guard down, and therefore 'slip up', just as you have rightly pointed out. It was only going to be a matter of time, if they were not telling the truth, and it has happened. i have received a further email, with the 'supposed 16th message of the mother' attached. Instead of coming from Igor, which has always happened before, and the only person from whom i have received these, this time it comes from Richard Embleton. So 'Igor' could be Richard Embleton, or a close associate. The email which i have received, which is appended, shows Richard Embleton's association with 'brother tiger'. This email should make clear that the 'would-be Shri Kalki' is connected with 'brother tiger' and that the 'messages of the mother' are not genuine messages. What to do now? So many of my messages have references to the these abovementioned personalities. i still wish to retain my own material that i have written on the forum, so will take some time to strip them of all unwanted references/quotes, and repost them. We will continue on, as the Mother leads us from our Sahasrara. warmest regards to all, violet [This is what Richard Embleton, friend of 'Brother Tiger' now writes]: valtam <valtam Thursday, 11 October 2007 6:00 AM violet.tubb <violet.tubb Tiger's 16th Message of Mother Violet Jai Shri Mataji This is Richard Embleto. My other address doesn't send nicely. I saw your first letter where you gave me the benefit of the doubt then sent another one with jagbir's judgement. Brother Tiger sent me that 16th message and I was the first to read it. (Attached) Shri Mataji showed Brother Tiger that I am the " LIGHT that powers Shri Mataji LIGHT. " Yes, My Spirit is the Father in this world...i am the Incarnation of Mahavishnu and you are all blackening My Name!! And Work!! Jagbir's subtle system has just been crushed by me. ask your Kundalini to show you his subtle body in your left hand, before and after I read his filthy response. I've given him extra chances, but now he's finninshed. You might be next, so wake up! The only reason I'mm giving you another chance is because you wrote such a nice first letter... Also, once you have verified the 16th message, and realise that only a trusted person would be sent this message by Tiger within hours of it having been received from Shri Mataji in his Sahasrara, then you can write and try and set things straight. Your life is in your hands, but I won't wait too long, Violet Regards Richard valtam pahana_caveman http://www.drivehq.com/folder/p1239432/03122203.aspx Dear 'pahana caveman', i see that you have sent to the moderators for approval, the '16th Message of the Mother': " pahana_caveman " <pahana_caveman@ .co. uk> Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:01 am Re: The 16th Message of the Mother!!! Pahana, i am very sorry to say that i cannot approve it, without first knowing where the message comes from, and through whom it is coming. We just cannot take any chances, and i am sure you must understand that fact. We just cannot jeopardise 'this happening'. i am not saying you are not a genuine person, and i am not saying that it is not a genuine message. You and the message are probably both genuine. However, there is a process in place, that we have to follow, to ensure that false personalities and false messages are not brought on the forum, by mistake. The process itself, helps to prevent that from happening. So i have forwarded the message to Igor for him to authenticate it, and when it is authenticated, perhaps we can make it the very next message to be put on the forum, after the 5th Message of the Mother, which is coming very soon, next day or so!!! So, please don't be put off, or disappointed OKAY. If the message is genuine (and i hope it is) it will probably be the very next one that Igor and i will collaborate to put on the forum. OKAY!!! best regards, violet P.S. Btw, could you possibly tell us your identity and where you got the message from. It would be nice to know. Thanks, violet. Dear Jagbir, Sorry about that. i seem to have missed the vital clues, indicating it was from a false person. regards, violet ---------- South Africas premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za For super low premiums, click here http://www.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm -- Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1063 - Release 11/10/2007 9:11 AM , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > Dear Violet, > > While meditating i realized that had you not replied to pahana_caveman > this elaborate deception by Richard Embleton would not have been > exposed. It is just by 'sheer luck' that Igor and company got the > whole thing mixed up. > > But i know Shri Mataji has Her ways of exposing falsehood. i am happy > you were instrumental in unwittingly exposing them, unpleasant and > embarassing though the whole episode may have been. Violet, i take > back my words and ask for forgiveness. Please accept them. Thank you. > > warmest regards, > > jagbir > > > , " Violet " > <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > > > Dear Jagbir, > > > > Sorry about that. i seem to have missed the vital clues, indicating > > it was from a false person. > > > > regards, > > > > violet > > > > > > > > , " jagbir > > singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Violet, > > > > > > This is the same mad person who calls himself Shri Kalki. i have > > read > > > his so-called 16th letter and it is so obvious that it is fake. > > This > > > subject should not even have been brought on the forum as it > > confuses > > > members. And if you check the end of Shri Kalki's letter you will > > see > > > this: > > > > > > " Your Loving Mother! > > > All My benedictions tem, who will do it! > > > > > > on October, 16 2007 " > > > > > > > > > In other words, this letter is yet to be written six days from > > today! > > > All his nonsense just makes no sense. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > jagbir > > > > > > BTW, i have deleted this mad Kalki's emails. > > > > > > > > > , " Violet " > > > <violet.tubb@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear 'pahana caveman', > > > > > > > > i see that you have sent to the moderators for approval, the > > '16th > > > Message of the Mother': > > > > > > > > " pahana_caveman " <pahana_caveman@> > > > > Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:01 am > > > > Re: The 16th Message of the Mother!!! > > > > > > > > Pahana, i am very sorry to say that i cannot approve it, without > > > first knowing where the message comes from, and through whom it is > > > coming. We just cannot take any chances, and i am sure you must > > > understand that fact. We just cannot jeopardise 'this happening'. > i > > > am not saying you are not a genuine person, and i am not saying > > that > > > it is not a genuine message. You and the message are probably both > > > genuine. However, there is a process in place, that we have to > > > follow, to ensure that false personalities and false messages are > > not > > > brought on the forum, by mistake. The process itself, helps to > > > prevent that from happening. > > > > > > > > So i have forwarded the message to Igor for him to authenticate > > it, > > > and when it is authenticated, perhaps we can make it the very next > > > message to be put on the forum, after the 5th Message of the > > Mother, > > > which is coming very soon, next day or so!!! > > > > > > > > So, please don't be put off, or disappointed OKAY. If the > message > > > is genuine (and i hope it is) it will probably be the very next > one > > > that Igor and i will collaborate to put on the forum. > > > > > > > > OKAY!!! > > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > > > violet > > > > > > > > P.S. Btw, could you possibly tell us your identity and where you > > > got the message from. It would be nice to know. Thanks, violet. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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