Are you not pushing christianity?

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Friday, November 2, 2007 8:36:03 AM

Are you not pushing christianity?

 

Dear Jagbir,

 

as I am reading your last topics on telling the Americans how

Christianity fits into the religious part of SYM, it sounds to me you

are in that same boat with the Hinduism pushing sahaj yogi's.

 

How do you tell people about the main point of recieving your self

realization and what it will do for you without ever having to compare

it to any religion?

 

Why is there so much attention on getting people to stay in SYM once

they are self realized?

 

I am courious to know, when did the sahaj yogis start having puja's to

Shri Mataji? Didn't She only give lectures for the first 10 years?

 

Sincerely,

 

Xxxxxxxx

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, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

>

> adishakti_org

> Friday, November 2, 2007 8:36:03 AM

> Are you not pushing christianity?

>

> Dear Jagbir,

>

> as I am reading your last topics on telling the Americans how

> Christianity fits into the religious part of SYM, it sounds to me

> you are in that same boat with the Hinduism pushing sahaj yogi's.

>

 

i am not telling Americans how Christianity fits into the religious

part of SYM. Are you sure? If you mean am i explaining again and

again how all religions/holy scriptures fit into Sahaja Yoga? - YES!

 

> How do you tell people about the main point of receiving your self

> realization and what it will do for you without ever having to

> compare it to any religion?

>

 

You can easily do that by first deceiving yourself in order to

blissfully deceive honest religious folks without any conscience.

Since this is what SYs have been doing for decades the abysmal

failure of tens of thousands of public programs and overwhelming

rejection by hundreds of thousands of seekers over the years should

have cautioned you against asking such an absurd question. After all,

you have been in SY for umpteen years.

 

 

> Why is there so much attention on getting people to stay in SYM once

> they are self realized?

>

 

It took me more than a decade to realize my Self. It will easily take

new people ten times more to achieve the same with the official SYSSR.

So they need to stay in SY meditation that long by perhaps taking

another rebirth or two. They may opt to remain in great health and

become centenarians. (i am only trying to be helpful folks.)

 

But the most viable alternative would be to make them realize in 10

mins. what took me 10 years. That can be easily achieved by thoroughly

comprehending these Silence on Self topics.

 

http://www.adishakti.org/forum/silence_on_self_there_is_nothing_else_to_learn_re\

alize_or_meditate_on_7-11-2007.htm

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i really would not want them to follow/listen to all the mundane,

petty and shallow knowledge, rituals and external attention of the

official Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion.

 

 

> I am curious to know, when did the sahaj yogis start having puja's

> to Shri Mataji? Didn't She only give lectures for the first 10

> years?

>

 

i think it makes no difference when SYs started doing pujas to Shri

Mataji. The sad part is that after decades they are still lost in

external worship, probably permanently, of an incarnation. The Devi

(Divine Feminine) has this to say:

 

" If you are unable to meditate upon My Eternal and Supreme form, fix

your attention on My qualified form [sakalarupa], and this, is

infinitely changeable with time and circumstance, can be grasped by

the mind. Whatever form of Mine your mind is capable of grasping,

meditate upon that. O father, identify yourself with that, worship

it. But My niskala form, bare consciousness, pure and calm, freed

from all attributes, One only, Eternal and Supreme; that Supreme

Abode can only be obtained through knowledge [jnana] and with great

difficulty. "

 

Shri Devi to Himavat in Kurma Purana

(R. A. Sastry, Lalita-Sahasranama,

The Adyar Library and Research Centre, Madras, 1988, p 30.)

 

 

i said " sad " because their attention has not changed with time and

circumstance. But didn't She confirm that Her " niskala form, bare

consciousness, pure and calm, freed from all attributes ... can only

be obtained through knowledge [jnana] and with great difficulty " ?

 

regards,

 

jagbir