Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 to: jagbir <s.jagbir, violet ubb <violetubb, date: Nov 8, 2007 8:13 AM subject: Choosing a new leader through vibrations......... Dear Jagbir, dear Violet, I just wanted to share this incredible story ,,, Last summer the question of choosing a new leader [was] raised in the french collective ( i don't know if it was on Shri Mataji s request or not). So the current leader made a preselection of 24 " popables " . He wrote their names on 24 pieces of paper and asked the collective to designate through vibrations the happy new leader. The vibrations were not very good, but one piece of paper emitted really awful vibrations. So the less bad piece of paper was picked up and the new leader was elected. But Magid, the current leader said that he wanted to know the " poor-guy-with-the-so-awful-vibrations " . And he picked up the hot piece of paper. At his great consternation, HIS NAME was written on the paper. So he took a ride straight away to Cabella where he begged for an audience with Sir CP. He asked him if he had to leave Sahaja Yoga, etc, etc.... Sir CP assured him and told him that he should stay. So as a result the french did not change their leader, they have a guy with awful vibrations, and everybody is happy....... With Love (and laughs) Xxxxxxxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > to: jagbir <s.jagbir, > violet ubb <violetubb, > date: Nov 8, 2007 8:13 AM > subject: Choosing a new leader through vibrations......... > > Dear Jagbir, dear Violet, > > I just wanted to share this incredible story ,,, > > Last summer the question of choosing a new leader [was] raised in > the french collective ( i don't know if it was on Shri Mataji s > request or not). So the current leader made a preselection of > 24 " popables " . He wrote their names on 24 pieces of paper and asked > the collective to designate through vibrations the happy new leader. > > The vibrations were not very good, but one piece of paper emitted > really awful vibrations. So the less bad piece of paper was picked > up and the new leader was elected. But Magid, the current leader > said that he wanted to know the " poor-guy-with-the-so-awful- > vibrations " . And he picked up the hot piece of paper. At his great > consternation, HIS NAME was written on the paper. > > So he took a ride straight away to Cabella where he begged for an > audience with Sir CP. He asked him if he had to leave Sahaja Yoga, > etc, etc.... > > Sir CP assured him and told him that he should stay. > > So as a result the french did not change their leader, they have a > guy with awful vibrations, and everybody is happy....... > > With Love (and laughs) > > Xxxxxxxxx > i just want to explain why i had to congratulate Majid Golpour, Sir CP and WCASY. Some folks may be left wondering why should the very people 'chosen' to protect the sacred cow of Sahaja Yoga be congratulated for collectively violating it. It is just like hugging a priest for violating a child (i think i am getting carried away). Well, Majid lost the 'democratic' elections hands down. i had to put democratic in '' as picking 24 candidates on his own is more like guided democracy at best. Thus those not in his (or Sir CP or WCASY) favor have no chance. But instead of accepting defeat Majid went all the way to Cabella and faked his misfortune, the misfortune of being singled out by the Paramchaitanya as a most horrible person. Remembering Shri Mataji's warning that the Paramchaitanya has its own way of throwing SYs out, he wanted Sir CP to save him from his most unfortunate fate er, i mean most unfortunate fake. Feinting utter remorse and inconsolable grief at such a catastrophic loss of salvation, he groveled and prostrated at Sir Shiva's Feet. Then, spread-eagle and begging for mercy, he wailed in utter anguish. Sir Shiva watched the entire spectacle in utter bemusement. In all his illustrious career he had never witnessed a better way to bribe and corrupt the soul. So with all the powers invested (and invented) in him by WCASY, the highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, Sir Shiva overruled the Paramchaitanya with a disdain flick of his left hand and tossed its sacred verdict into the garbage bin. Lifting the lucky Majid from the floor Sir Shiva held him in his bosom and consoled a broken man. After a few minutes of having his ego massaged Majid was rejuvenated, a miraculously healed man all ready to return to France in triumph. All members of WCASY sighed a huge relief and held a havan in Sir Shiva's honor. They were all profoundly grateful that he had saved their kind, Majid's horrible vibrations and election loss the least of their conscience .... er, i mean concern. After all, how could they have explained yet another loss of a Will-holder? And what if Majid's fiasco had set a precedent ................ and many of them losing out in worldwide elections? Alan Wherry was the most furious of all. " What was this idiot (Majid) think he was going to accomplish by holding elections? " (He has since asked John Noyce to draft a proposal that will forbid free elections to replace WCASY members.) But we now know that Majid, a WCASY member, has one of the worst vibrations in France. Obviously the Paramchaitanya confirms without a shadow of doubt that he is not fit to be a leader. We also know that Sir Shiva has veto powers over the Paramchaitanya. We also know that WCASY empowers Sir Shiva to have veto powers over the Paramchaitanya. So Majid, Sir Shiva and WCASY give two hoots to what SYs may think about vibrations. i thus can't help but congratulate all of them for presenting me this most wonderful gift of corruption, corruption of a most fundamental teaching of Shri Mataji, the heart and soul of Sahaja Yoga. But this is just the calm before the storm of Mahasamadhi. Unfortunately, the worst is yet to come folks. i mean unfortunately for Majid, Sir Shiva and WCASY and all who support their corruption of truth and Shri Mataji's teachings. So just bear and witness it! regards to all, jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote: to: jagbir <s.jagbir@>, violet ubb <violetubb@>, date: Nov 8, 2007 8:13 AM subject: Choosing a new leader through vibrations......... Dear Jagbir, dear Violet, I just wanted to share this incredible story ,,, Last summer the question of choosing a new leader [was] raised in the french collective ( i don't know if it was on Shri Mataji s request or not). So the current leader made a preselection of 24 " popables " . He wrote their names on 24 pieces of paper and asked the collective to designate through vibrations the happy new leader. The vibrations were not very good, but one piece of paper emitted really awful vibrations. So the less bad piece of paper was picked up and the new leader was elected. But Magid, the current leader said that he wanted to know the " poor-guy-with-the-so-awful-vibrations " . And he picked up the hot piece of paper. At his great consternation, HIS NAME was written on the paper. So he took a ride straight away to Cabella where he begged for an audience with Sir CP. He asked him if he had to leave Sahaja Yoga, etc, etc.... Sir CP assured him and told him that he should stay. So as a result the french did not change their leader, they have a guy with awful vibrations, and everybody is happy....... With Love (and laughs) Xxxxxxxxx i just want to explain why i had to congratulate Majid Golpour, Sir CP and WCASY. Some folks may be left wondering why should the very people 'chosen' to protect the sacred cow of Sahaja Yoga be congratulated for collectively violating it. It is just like hugging a priest for violating a child (i think i am getting carried away). Well, Majid lost the 'democratic' elections hands down. i had to put democratic in '' as picking 24 candidates on his own is more like guided democracy at best. Thus those not in his (or Sir CP or WCASY) favor have no chance. But instead of accepting defeat Majid went all the way to Cabella and faked his misfortune, the misfortune of being singled out by the Paramchaitanya as a most horrible person. Remembering Shri Mataji's warning that the Paramchaitanya has its own way of throwing SYs out, he wanted Sir CP to save him from his most unfortunate fate er, i mean most unfortunate fake. Feinting utter remorse and inconsolable grief at such a catastrophic loss of salvation, he groveled and prostrated at Sir Shiva's Feet. Then, spread-eagle and begging for mercy, he wailed in utter anguish. Sir Shiva watched the entire spectacle in utter bemusement. In all his illustrious career he had never witnessed a better way to bribe and corrupt the soul. So with all the powers invested (and invented) in him by WCASY, the highest authority in Sahaja Yoga, Sir Shiva overruled the Paramchaitanya with a disdain flick of his left hand and tossed its sacred verdict into the garbage bin. Lifting the lucky Majid from the floor Sir Shiva held him in his bosom and consoled a broken man. After a few minutes of having his ego massaged Majid was rejuvenated, a miraculously healed man all ready to return to France in triumph. All members of WCASY sighed a huge relief and held a havan in Sir Shiva's honor. They were all profoundly grateful that he had saved their kind, Majid's horrible vibrations and election loss the least of their conscience .... er, i mean concern. After all, how could they have explained yet another loss of a Will-holder? And what if Majid's fiasco had set a precedent ................ and many of them losing out in worldwide elections? Alan Wherry was the most furious of all. " What was this idiot (Majid) think he was going to accomplish by holding elections? " (He has since asked John Noyce to draft a proposal that will forbid free elections to replace WCASY members.) But we now know that Majid, a WCASY member, has one of the worst vibrations in France. Obviously the Paramchaitanya confirms without a shadow of doubt that he is not fit to be a leader. We also know that Sir Shiva has veto powers over the Paramchaitanya. We also know that WCASY empowers Sir Shiva to have veto powers over the Paramchaitanya. So Majid, Sir Shiva and WCASY give two hoots to what SYs may think about vibrations. i thus can't help but congratulate all of them for presenting me this most wonderful gift of corruption, corruption of a most fundamental teaching of Shri Mataji, the heart and soul of Sahaja Yoga. But this is just the calm before the storm of Mahasamadhi. Unfortunately, the worst is yet to come folks. i mean unfortunately for Majid, Sir Shiva and WCASY and all who support their corruption of truth and Shri Mataji's teachings. So just bear and witness it! regards to all, jagbir Dear Jagbir, Dear Xxxxxxxxx, and All, But this has got to be evidence, that just like Shri Mataji told us in the mid-1990's, the same 'Pharisees and scribes' that were there at Jesus's incarnation, have all come back and are here at Shri Mataji's incarnation.... in Sahaja Yoga! Otherwise, how can we credit what is happening to the organisation, when Majid Golpour, Sir CP and WCASY just don't give two hoots about vibrations or about Paramchaitanya! i would like to give some anecdotal evidence in regards to that fact, also: When we had moved to the new area of Clifton Springs, which is only twenty-five minute's drive from Geelong City, and one-and-a-half-hour's drive from Melbourne, and with only one car between hubby and i, and with yogis in Melbourne being far away, i had to depend upon the Paramchaitanya to help me work things out, especially with regard to a public venue in which to have SY Meditation Programs. So, i asked the Paramchaitanya (which means the " vibrations that surround us " ) to work things out, as i wanted to do the work that Shri Mataji asked us to do, i.e., teach about Sahaja Yoga! The next day or so, i saw an ad in the local newspaper, and they were asking for a Meditation Teacher in the Local Arts Centre which is only ten minute's drive away from our home! i took it up straight away, and saw the Paramchaitanya's 'working out' of my desire to do Her work! When i had previously spoken to the leader in Melbourne, about 'possible venues' and he had wanted me to do them in Geelong, i had considered that possibility. However, when this other venue miraculously came up, that was just perfect under my circumstances, i saw the guidance of the Paramchaitanya in it. i joyfully explained to the leader, how the Paramchaitanya had wonderfully worked things out! However, he showed that he was not very happy along with myself being happy. He just shrugged his shoulders and looked skeptically askance at myself. i don't think he really liked that the Paramchaitanya had worked things out differently from the way he had wanted it to work out. i have therefore had to observe that the Paramchaitanya (which are the Divine vibrations that surround us) are getting in the way of the leaders, and they don't like it because it interferes with the way they want to run things. Yes, the simple problem is that the Paramchaitanya just gets in their way, LOL! And what is even worse, is when people won't listen to them because they say that 'the Paramchaitanya has worked things out'. Of course, the Paramchaitanya is just fine, as long as it doesn't work things out differently from the way " they " want things to work out! In other words, they believe that the Paramchaitanya should become subservient to them, instead of vice versa! My, my such egos! But the Paramchaitanya works for the priesthood of all Sahaja Yogis in the Kingdom of God within, and not for the priesthood of a few to have an earthly Sahaj Kingdom without! Real Sahaja Yogis just do not need priests and scribes to be their intermediators between them and God, because real Sahaja Yogis are " In Union with the Divine Within " . The priestly positions have therefore been made redundant through the Grace of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, but some 'hopeful priestly types', like WCASY et al, who also claim to be 'Defacto Wills' of the Adi Shakti/Holy Spirit, just 'don't quite get it'! They still 'don't get it' that their priestly reigns are up! And they can't hide their 'slip-ups' either, because they are all being recorded for posterity, so posterity can see how they acted. This is the time of mass awakening, not priestly domination. So, we will see if the majority of Sahaja Yogis finally wake up to the priestly hypocrisy in Sahaja Yoga, once the Mahasammadhi happens. In conclusion, i can only repeat the importance of what Jagbir has stated: " So Majid, Sir Shiva and WCASY give two hoots to what SYs may think about vibrations. i thus can't help but congratulate all of them for presenting me this most wonderful gift of corruption, corruption of a most fundamental teaching of Shri Mataji, the heart and soul of Sahaja Yoga. But this is just the calm before the storm of Mahasamadhi. Unfortunately, the worst is yet to come folks. i mean unfortunately for Majid, Sir Shiva and WCASY and all who support their corruption of truth and Shri Mataji's teachings. So just bear and witness it! " regards to all, violet Pharisaism Exposed Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples, saying: " The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the chair of Moses; therefore all that they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds; for they say things, and do not do them. And they tie up heavy loads, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves are unwilling to move them with so much as a finger. But they do all their deeds to be noticed by men; for they broaden their phylacteries, and lengthen the tassels of their garments. And they love the place of honor at banquets, and the chief seats in the synagogues, and respectful greetings in the market places, and being called by men, Rabbi [Teacher]. But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers. And do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. And do not be called leaders; for One is your Leader, that is, Christ. But the greatest among you shall be your servant. And whoever exalts himself shall be humbled; and whoever humbles himself shall be exalted. " (Words of Christ Jesus - Matthew 23:1-12) Seven Woes But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shut off the kingdom of heaven from men; for you do not enter in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in. Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites because you devour widows' houses, even while for a pretense you make long prayers; therefore you shall receive greater condemnation. Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you travel about on sea and land to make one proselyte; and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves. Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier provisions of the law; justice and mercy and faithfulness; but these are the things you should have done without neglecting the others. You blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel! Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypoocrites! For you clean the outside of the cup and of the dish, but inside they are full of robbery and self-indulgence. You blind Pharisee, first clean the inside of the cup and of the dish, so that the outside of it may become clean also. Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which on the outside appear beautiful, but inside they are full of dead men's bones and all uncleanness. Even so you too outwardly appear righteous to men, but inwardly you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness. Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the righteous, and say, 'If we had been living in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partners with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.' Consequently you bear witness against yourselves, that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. (Words of Jesus Christ - Matthew 23:1-31) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > So Majid, Sir Shiva and WCASY give two hoots to what SYs may think > about vibrations. i thus can't help but congratulate all of them for > presenting me this most wonderful gift of corruption, corruption of a most fundamental teaching of Shri Mataji, the heart and soul of > Sahaja Yoga. But this is just the calm before the storm of > Mahasamadhi. Unfortunately, the worst is yet to come folks. i mean > unfortunately for Majid, Sir Shiva and WCASY and all who support > their corruption of truth and Shri Mataji's teachings. So just bear > and witness it! > jagbir singh Saturday, August 4, 2007 9:47:42 AM " I have met many SY's who lives are full of hardships caused by their own thinking which they think they have no control over because Shri Mataji has said not to think. I witness verbal abuse amongst couples and collectives from the very first day of my first program. I can see this power struggle going on with leaders and council people over their collectives. I witness daily a confusion that people have over what Shri Mataji has said and what She really meant by what She said. This list could go on and on and on.... All of this stuff has caused the SY's not to grow deeper in their relationship with their own spirit. This saddens me to witness day after day. " Xxxxxx (4 years in Sahaja Yoga) Jagbir Singh Aug 6, 2007 4:38 AM " The growth rate of SY is not as fast and dynamic as it should be. But it will be. Alex got it right when he said on AS that the Yogi's just make play about meditation and stress relief and that they avoid telling people the truth from the start. Occasionally there is a mind, body show or yoga show where a number of people get realisation, but at your normal meeting it is about 1 or 2 new people a week.... There are quite number of SY who do not attend many functions at present. The new leadership councils came, especially in England, with great expectations, only to become worse than the leaders that they replaced. I believe that Sri Ma has given them a long rope and the desire for power and control within the SY membership must be drawn out and exposed. It is the intellectuals who are running the councils and it these people that are frightened of AS. Many of the leaders fear for SY being seen as a cult. It is. Anyone who truly recognise Sri Mataji would embrace AS and direct everyone they meet to the site. There are many things that need to be addressed in SY if many many people are to come through it's doors. The racism that has gone on in within SY in England would shame any organisation let alone SY. But I often say these are challenges for the genuine to overcome, another opportunity to love! " Yyyyyyyy - (>20 years in Sahaja Yoga) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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