Yet there She stands: Shri Adi Shakti: The Kingdom of God!!!

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Dear Jagbir and All,

 

i proffer that SY Money must be being used to back up John Noyce's threat to sue

Wikipedia. Surely, SY Money must also be being used to back up John Noyce's

actions of continually deleting links to http://www.adishakti.org/ But let

me explain. i am no solicitor, and have no wish to be either - however all the

money which has originally come from Sahaja Yogis, or from Shri Mataji Herself -

will have been designated to different areas, so that there is money for legal

matters too. But the point i am making is, that ORIGINALLY this money has come

from either Shri Mataji or from Sahaja Yogis - that's the point!

 

This coming out of John Noyce 'with all guns shooting' [threat of legal action]

would not have been necessary if WCASY had not changed Shri Mataji Nirmala

Devi's " Sahaja Yoga " into their own narrow belief system of the " Sahaja Yoga

Subtle System Religion " , which is really a " narrow off-shoot " of " ALL " that Our

Mother gave.

 

It can be seen now, that WCASY et al are having the time of their lives, trying

to legally protect their own devised " Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion "

(SYSSR), which has edited out Christ's continuing Message of the Last Judgment

and Resurrection (in those terms). Yet while all this drama is happening, and in

spite of all their efforts to stymie Her Identity, Mission and Message, it

stands in full glory, for all posterity!

 

Yes, it stands on its own two feet! It is able to withstand all attacks, even

WCASY & Co.'s attacks, to shut it down. John Noyce's attempts to completely

sever it from all links to Sahaja Yoga at Wikipedia, through the use of his

'multiple I.D.'s' - is just a drop in the bucket - for there She stands, " Shri

Adi Shakti: The Kingdom of God " :

 

http://www.adishakti.org/

 

 

May Shri Adi Shakti - the Kingdom of God, reign in our hearts. She is the Holy

Spirit Within, who has come, and comes to All who want Her, at this season of

Christ, called " Christ-mas " .

 

Love and Joy to all,

 

violet

 

 

 

, " jagbir

singh " <adishakti_org wrote:

>

> >

> > Protected

> > I have protected this article due to the edit warring. Guy

(Help!)

> > 18:42, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

> >

> > it should be noted that this 'impartial' Admin protected the page

> > only after the negative material was reinserted by Simon D M.

Looks

> > like legal action against Wikipedia will be needed. What say

> > others? Sahajhist 21:46, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

> >

> > Retrieved from

> " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

Talk:International_Sahaja_Public_School "

> >

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> Sahajhist (talk • contribs • block logauto;confirmed socks

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> Sock tags

> Why are you deleting the sock tags from the user pages? It's

standard

> practice to label them. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 16:52, 12 December 2007

> (UTC)

>

> these user ids are not being used, are they Mark? Sahajhist 21:28,

12

> December 2007 (UTC)

>

> No legal threats

> Your recent edits could give editors of Wikipedia the impression

that

> you may consider legal or other " off-wiki " action against them, or

> against Wikipedia itself. Please note that this is strictly

> prohibited under Wikipedia's policies on legal threats and

civility.

> Users who make such threats may be blocked. If you have a genuine

> dispute with the Community or its members, please use dispute

> resolution. (Please remove the threat of legal action made in this

> edit:[1].) ·:· Will Beback ·:· 21:59, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

>

> you can block me if you like Mark, but other meditation

practitioners

> will take my place. If pages are going to be permanently edit

> protected then legal action is very definately an option, and any

> bullying by yourself would be duly noted, most probably under your

> real name. Sahajhist 22:16, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

>

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> Request reason: " Mark A York this is your life! We can be civil to

> each other within Wikipedia or legalistic outside. Your choice

buddy. "

>

>

> ------------------------------

>

> Decline reason: " WP:LEGAL is quite clear. Withdraw the legal

threats

> or stay indefinitely blocked. — BLACKKITE 07:39, 13 December 2007

> (UTC) "

>

> lawyers are being briefed. Sahajhist 08:05, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

> Please email unblock-en-l if you would like to

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> -------------------------

>

> Dear Violet and All,

>

> i checked to follow up on John Noyce's Wikipedia deception and, to

my

> surprise, the thread has been deleted. i have thus realized that we

> have been very lucky indeed to catch John Noyce red-handed. (i use

> " we " because Violet was the one who first alerted me to John Noyce

> and Sfacets editing out http://www.adishakti.org from Wikipedia.)

>

> In the first place, you must join just as the comments are posted.

> Then there is a narrow timeframe to copy them as John Noyce deletes

> the incriminating evidence almost immediately. Indeed we have been

so

> fortunate to have nabbed him. Something just made me check

Wikipedia

> in the nick of time.

>

> i have also found out something about Wikipedia's Checkuser:

>

> " Checkuser

> Wikipedia operates a process known as Checkuser to identify some

sock

> puppets in certain cases. Where it is unclear whether or not sock

> puppetry is in progress, server log information can be consulted.

To

> comply with Wikimedia Foundation privacy policy, this is limited

to a

> handful of users with checkuser privilege and only done in serious

> cases, with reasonable cause, to check if user A is the same as

user

> B based upon some evidence. "

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry

>

> Having access to Checkuser is something like obtaining a search

> warrant from a judge. You are only granted if solid evidence of

> suspected criminal activity is presented. So in John Noyce's case

it

> was a slam dunk as Will Beback had a thick dossier on JN's past

use of

> multiple IDs, a fact that is well-known among those SYs

unfortunate to

> work with him. (Remember sahaja-yoga-

> response/

> John Noyce?)

>

> >

> > Will the organisation ever recover from this deception? i don't

> > know for sure. Can integrity yet come out from the younger

> > generation, in spite of this 'early deception'? Hasn't everyone's

> > hands already been 'thoroughly tied'? i remember a Sahaja Yogini

> > telling me that Shri Mataji told her in about the 80's, in

> > reference to administration, that: " they will tie everything up! "

> >

>

> Violet, all your fears will come true if you remain silent. But

here

> we are not only exposing the bare butts of these deceitful, WCASY-

> approved candidates but spanking them sore too. However, it is the

> evidence gathered and archived that will turn the tide in future. i

> am very sure that Shri Mataji will triumph despite the John Noyces,

> Alan Wherrys and Yogi Mahajans within the organization.

>

> It is without question that the turning point and force will come

> from outside the organization. One day we will all witness the

birth

> of an organization based on the true, transparent teachings and

> Divine Message of Shri Mataji. So do not empower the present

deceitful

> SYSSR organization in any way. It will only delay the onset of the

> Blossom Time that Shri Mataji has so tirelessly campaigned for more

> than three decades. How much time does our 84-year-old Divine

Mother

> still have to see that Dawn of Truth?

>

> >

> > Shri Mataji said a couple of months ago that if SYM doesn't work

in

> > America then the whole world will be lost.

> >

>

> Not only will Sahaja Yoga Meditation not work in America, or

anywhere

> else for the matter, as long as we have deceitful people running

the

> organization. Whether it is the false advertisments of the present

> Sahaja Yoga organization or the fake IDs of John Noyce, they

confirm

> a deceitful collective mindset.

>

> Main Entry: de·ceit·ful

> : having a tendency or disposition to deceive:

> a: not honest <a deceitful child>

> b: deceptive, misleading <deceitful advertising>

>

> Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

>

> regards to all,

>

> jagbir

>

>

> , " Violet "

> <violet.tubb@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jagbir and self-realised Souls,

> >

> > Incredible! And this is the very same deceit that is backed by

> WCASY. It is also the very same deceit that has been used to

prevent

> Sahaja Yogis in the organisation, from giving Her Identity,

Mission,

> and Message of the Last Judgment and Resurrection to the world!

> Surely, they didn't think they had immunity from exposure, just

> because they were very clever, not to mention, deceitful with it!

> >

> > As you have mentioned, Jagbir, we have known about the multiple

> I.D.'s of John Noyce for some time now, but just could not prove

it.

> But now, thanks to Wikipedia, they have exposed this deception

> through the use of CheckUser, and i agree that since this is the

> case, John Noyce is impudent to expect you to apologize to him! i

> doubt that he will ever apologize to you though, because i don't

> think he has that kind of a conscience. It seems he can do anything

> in the 'name of WCASY'! Still, i am speechless, that the whole

> organisation of Sahaja Yoga has been 'so overcome' through the

> manipulation into positions of power, by 'administratively

deceptive'

> people, claiming to be Sahaja Yogis - but their heart is far from

it!

> >

> > Will the organisation ever recover from this deception? i don't

> know for sure. Can integrity yet come out from the younger

> generation, in spite of this 'early deception'? Hasn't everyone's

> hands already been 'thoroughly tied'? i remember a Sahaja Yogini

> telling me that Shri Mataji told her in about the 80's, in

reference

> to administration, that: " they will tie everything up! "

> >

> > So what's left now, that they have " tied everything up? " Where

has

> the integrity of the organisation gone? Of course, this is a

> shameful 'eyesore' in the organisation, yet it is only by exposure

> that the pus in the wound can be healed - except that we are

talking

> about a spiritual organisation here! Every organisation needs

> honesty, but a spiritual organisation has by its very nature, to be

> based on honesty, on integrity! If a spiritual organisation is not

> based on honesty, on integrity, what is left of its " spiritual "

part?!

> >

> > regards to all,

> >

> > violet

> >

>