Jesus Christ: The works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these

January 8, 2008

Dear Violet and all,

Let us examine a crucial prophecy, proclaimed by the Savior two

millennia ago, that is central to Shri Mataji's advent and teachings:

" Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I

do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because

I go to the Father. (John 14:12) "

Jesus clearly prophesies that in future those who believe in Him will

not only do what He has done, but greater works. So they will do what

Jesus has done. In other words they will preach and proclaim all He did:

" Like his forerunner John the Baptist, Jesus preached that men must

repent of their sins (Luke 13:3-5), that is, men must acknowledge

God's judgment against their sinfulness and seek his forgiveness and

cleansing. He taught that men should seek the will of God and his

kingdom, rather than any earthly kingdom or temporal goal (Matthew

6). He insisted that men should love not only their neighbors but

even their enemies (Matthew 5:44).

Above all, Jesus taught that God loves men so much he had sent his

only son, Jesus himself, to become incarnate as a man (John 1:1, 14)

in order to die in their place, so that they might not perish

eternally but might receive eternal life (John 3:16; Matthew 20:28).

For a man to receive eternal life he must be ''born again " (John 3:3)

by committing his life to Jesus (John 1:12; cf. Revelation 3:20)...

Unlike the other spiritual leaders we are examining, Jesus came out

of a monotheistic culture. The concept of " gods " in polytheistic

religions is quite anthropomorphic; there is no sharp difference in

kind between men and such gods. [25] In Jewish monotheism the

distinction between God as transcendent and infinite and man as

finite is almost absolute.

It is therefore altogether remarkable that Jesus claimed to be one

with the Father (John 10:30), a blasphemy for which the Jews wished

to stone him (John 10:31, 33: John 5:17-18). This claim to be one

with God was expressed in Jesus' claims to be free from sin (John

8:46), to be the only way to the Father (John 14:6), to have

authority to forgive sins (Matthew 9:5-6) and to have the right to

demand complete loyalty (Luke 14:26). He accepted worship (John

20:28; Matthew 28:9; Luke 24:52; contrast the refusal to accept any

adoration by Peter, Acts 3:12; 10:25-26; and by Barnabas and Paul,

Acts 14:14-15) and believed he deserved equal honor with God the

Father (John 5:23). Jesus dared to address God as Abba, an intimate

Aramaic term for " father, " which none of the rabbis used. As Joachim

Jeremias has noted, " …this Abba implies the claim of a unique

revelation and a unique authority. " [26] [end]

But Jesus also claims that these believers will do even more than Him;

" The works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these " .

So what is the " greater works than these he will do " ? It is obvious

that they will also be able to do what the Comforter can do, namely

give second birth (awaken the kundalini i.e., give Self-realization)!

(So it is indeed true, as Shri Mataji has said, that Jesus did not

give Self-realization to anyone. And neither did others like Prophet

Muhammad, Shri Krishna or Rama.)

Now second birth is a very deep and mystical subject that involves

what Jesus calls the 'living waters'.

" So he (Jesus) came to a town in Samaria called Sychar, near the plot

of ground Jacob had given to his son Joseph. Jacob’s well was there,

and Jesus, tired as he was from the journey, sat down by the well. It

was abut the sixth hour. When a Samaritan woman came to draw water,

Jesus said to her, “Will you give me a drink?” (His disciples had

gone into the town to buy food.) The Samaritan woman said to

him, “You are a Jew and I am a Samaritan woman. How can you ask me

for a drink?” (For Jews do not associate with Samaritans.) Jesus

answered her, “If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks

you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you

living water.” “Sir,” the woman said, “you have nothing to draw with

and the well is deep. Where can you get this living water? Are you

greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well and drank from it

himself, as did also his sons and his flocks and herds?” Jesus

answered “Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, but

whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the

water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to

eternal life.” " [John 4:1-14]

Till today Christian continue to associate the 'living waters' with

both baptism and the daily consumption of H2O, as has been the case

for more than 2,000 years:

" Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well and

drank from it himself, as did also his sons and his flocks and herds? "

But Jesus is clearly referring to a spring of water within the

believer that will well up to eternal life i.e., slowly evolve the

human into the eternal spirit. Jesus is talking about the evolution

of the homo sapiens into homo spiritus, one that will take place over

the span of natural life. This is nothing but genuine kundalini

awakening (self-realization) culminating with the 'living waters'

issuing forth from the crown of the head. Shri Mataji describes Her

own experience:

" As soon as the Sahasrara was opened, the whole atmosphere was

filled with tremendous chaitanya [vibrations] and there was

tremendous light in the sky, with the whole thing coming on earth

with the tremendous force of a torrential rain or waterfall, that I

became stupefied and unaware! The happening was so tremendous and

unexpected, that I was stunned and became totally silent at the

grandeur of it!!! I saw the primordial Kundalini rising like a big,

silent, furnace that had a burning appearance, as when you heat up

metal and it has many colors. In the same way, the Kundalini showed

up as a tunnel-like furnace, such as you can see in the plants where

they burn coal to make electricity. And the Kundalini stretched out

like a telescope and out came the deities, one after another: shoot!

shoot! shoot! Just like that! And the deities came and sat on their

golden seats, and lifted the whole of the head into the shape of a

dome and opened it. And then this torrential rain completely drenched

Me! " [end]

According to Shri Mataji anyone seeking Self-realization from Her

will be endowed with the same powers to give second birth to others.

Without question that fulfils Jesus prophesy that " the works that I

do, he will do also; and greater works than these " . All those

surrendering to the Divine Call to participate in the Last Judgment

will have the power to do greater work than even Jesus. And what can

be more empowering than having the means to trigger the second birth

in humans that culminates in " a spring of water welling up to eternal

life " ? Maybe it would become clearer if this question is asked: “What

can be more empowering than being bestowed the power and gift of

evolution?”

regards to all,

jagbir

http://www.irr.org/yamauchi.html

[25] Cf. Edwin Yamauchi, " Anthropomorphism in Ancient Religions, "

Bibliotheca Sacra, CXXV (1968), 29-44.

[26] Joachim Jeremias, The Central Message of the New Testament

(1965), pp. 29ff.

Note: David Hawkins in his latest book, I: Reality and Subjectivity, uses the

term Homo spiritus to describe the evolutionary shift in consciousness, which is

now occurring. He writes, " The appearance in humanity of the realization of God

as the ultimate Reality, substrate, and source of Existence and Creation marked

the beginning of the emergence of a new, evolutionary branch of mankind called

Homo spiritus. The term Homo spiritus refers to the awakened man who has bridged

the evolutionary leap from physical to spiritual, from form to nonform, and from

linear to nonlinear. The awakened man realizes that it is consciousness itself,

which constitutes the core of the evolutionary tree in all its seemingly

stratified and evermore complex expressions as the evolution of life. Thus, life

transforms from the relatively unconscious linear to the fully conscious

nonlinear, and Creation reveals itself to be the ongoing unfolding of the

Unmanifest becoming Manifest. The capacity to reach the condition or state

classically called Enlightenment represents the fulfillment of the potential of

consciousness in its evolutionary progression. "

Dr. David R. Hawkins, M.D., Ph.D.

Dr. Hawkins is an internationally renowned psychiatrist, physician, researcher,

and pioneer in the fields of consciousness research and spirituality. He writes

and teaches from the unique perspective of an experienced clinician, scientist,

and mystic and is devoted to the spiritual evolution of mankind.

, " Violet " <violet.tubb

wrote:>>

Dear Jagbir,

i thought that Christ had given people their Self-realisation, since He told the

woman at the well, that He had " living water " that He would give to Her, if She

wanted it. However, i have just read Shri Mataji saying that He did not give

people their Self-realisation, which comes as a great surprise to me, as i had

been under the perception that He had given people their Self-realisation!:

" Even the disciples of Christ or even Mohammed Sahib's disciples, anyone, did

they do it? Did they have any understanding of Kundalini? Did they have any love

for others that they should give them Realisation? There were some Sufis, they

never gave Realisation to anyone, there were so many saints who never gave

Realisation to anybody. Mohammed Sahib never gave Realisation to anybody, Gautam

Buddha never gave Realisation to anybody, think of it! Christ never gave

Realisation to anybody, anybody! Krishna did not do it, Rama did not do it,

nobody, but you can do it!! You can do it and you know everything about

Kundalini. It's a very big thing because you are children of the Adi Shakti. You

are here and your Mother is here. It's a very, very fortunate thing for Me that

you are here. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Sahasrara Day Puja Address - Le

Raincy, France - 5 May 1982)

[That is why, at last, i know why Christ said the following - it was because the

opening of the last centre in the Great Primordial Being, which is the last work

of the Divine, had not been accomplished as yet!]:

" Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will

do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father.

(John 14:12)

[Christ clearly associated these 'greater works' to happen in connection with

the arising of the Kundalini energy within human beings]:

" I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that S/He may be

with you forever; that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive,

because it does not see Her or know Her, but you know Her because S/He abides

with you, and will be in you! " (John 14:16-17)

[He says He would ask the Father to give us this Helper, and this Helper has

come and enabled the Primordial Kundalini to arise, coming with such tremendous

force on the earth!]:

" As soon as the Sahasrara was opened, the whole atmosphere was filled with

tremendous chaitanya [vibrations] and there was tremendous light in the sky,

with the whole thing coming on earth with the tremendous force of a torrential

rain or waterfall, that I became stupefied and unaware! The happening was so

tremendous and unexpected, that I was stunned and became totally silent at the

grandeur of it!!! I saw the primordial Kundalini rising like a big, silent,

furnace that had a burning appearance, as when you heat up metal and it has many

colors. In the same way, the Kundalini showed up as a tunnel-like furnace, such

as you can see in the plants where they burn coal to make electricity. And the

Kundalini stretched out like a telescope and out came the deities, one after

another: shoot! shoot! shoot! Just like that! And the deities came and sat on

their golden seats, and lifted the whole of the head into the shape of a dome

and opened it. And then this torrential rain completely drenched Me! I started

seeing all that and got lost in the joy. It was like an artist seeing his own

creation, and I felt the joy of great fulfillment. After coming out of this

beautiful experience, I looked around and saw that human beings were so

[spiritually] blind, and I became absolutely silent and desired that I should

get their cups filled with nectar, rather than the stones that were there. "

((Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Sahasrara Day Puja Address - Le Raincy, France - 5

May 1982)

[shri Mataji describes this event as the greatest event of all the spiritual

happenings of the universe!]:

" It is a great day for all of us, the seekers, that the last work of the Divine,

of the opening the last centre in the great primordial being, was done on the

5th of May 1970. It is the greatest event of all the spiritual happenings of the

universe. It was done with very great care and great adjustments. It is not in

the limits of human understanding, how things are worked out in the heavens. It

is your fortune and God's love, that has worked out this wondrous miracle.

Without this happening, there could not have been the possibility of giving mass

realization to people. One could have done it for one or two persons here and

there, but to have given such a mass awakening would not have been possible. "

(Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Sahasrara Day Puja Address - Le Raincy, France - 5

May 1982)

[Christ had opened the second last centre of Agnya (Narrow Gate), and Shri

Mataji Nirmala Devi has opened the last centre of Sahasrara (Kingdom of God).

Now it is up to us to do the " greater works " that Christ said we would do! Shri

Mataji says that we must know about Sahaja Yoga, talk about Sahaja Yoga and

spread Sahaja Yoga, which is about 'Union with the Divine' that people can have

through Self-realisation! It is about them Realizing who they are!]:

" There must be some reason why you are here. Like in the beginning, Sahaja Yogis

used to ask Me: " Mother, was I this last life? Was I Shivaji in the last life? "

I said: " What's the use? " You might have been anything, but what you are today

is much higher, try to understand! You might be, say, Napoleon, you might be,

say, one of the kings or may be, or may be the queen from somewhere, so what?

What did they do? Did they raise anybody's Kundalini? Did they have any power?

Even the disciples of Christ or even Mohammed Sahib's disciples, anyone, did