Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Dear Jagbir, The way you have related Sri Nisargadatta's quotes in " I AM THAT " and the mystical knowledge given by Shri Mataji through your children - in your own words and with your comments included, is very helpful for the understanding of this mystical knowledge. i feel it would be spiritually beneficial if you could do more of these, which might help to dispel in SY minds and hearts, Yogi Mahajan et al's maya that the mystical knowledge Shri Mataji gave through the special personalities from Montreal, Canada, is possessed of evil. warmest regards, violet , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > Dear all, > > The postman just delivered the book " I AM THAT " by Sri Nisargadatta > Maharaj. Tuesday is indeed an auspicious day to receive spiritual > gifts. > > The hardcover reads: > > " a modern spiritual classic " > > I AM THAT > > Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > The real does not die, the unreal never lived. > > Once you know that death happens to the body and not to you, you just > watch your body falling off like a discarded garment. > > The real you is timeless and beyond birth and death. The body will > survive as long as it is needed. It is not important that it should > live long. (front cover) > > This collection of the timeless teaching of one of the greatest sages > of India, Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, regarded by many as a modern > spiritual classic, is a testament to the uniqueness of the seer's > life and work. I Am That (now in its ninth printing) continues to > draw new audiences and to enlighten anxious seekers for self- > realization. > > Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj was a teacher who did not propound any > ideology or religion but gently unwrapped the mystery of the self. > His message is simple, direct and yet sublime. > > I Am That preserves his dialogues with the followers who came from > around the world seeking guidance in destroying false identities. The > sage's sole concern was with human suffering and the ending of > suffering. IT was his mission to guide the individual o an > understanding of his true nature and the timelessness of being. He > taught that mind must recognize and penetrate its own state of being, > not being his or that, here or there, then or now, but just timeless > being. > > A simple man, Maharaj was a householder and petty store keeper in > Bombay where he lived, and died in 1981 at the age of 84. He had not > been educated formally but came to be respected and loved for his > insights into the crux of human pain and the extraordinary lucidity > of his direct discourse. Hundreds of diverse seekers traveled the > globe and sought him to in his unpretentious home to hear him. To all > of them he gave hope that beyond the real experience is not the mind, > but the self, the light in which everything appears, the awareness in > which everything happens. > > I Am That is a legacy from a unique teacher who helps the reader to a > clearer understanding of himself as he comes to Maharaj again and > again with the age-old questions, whence am I? Who am I and whither > am I? The listeners were never turned away from the humble abode of > Maharaj then and are not turned away now. (back cover) > > > So what is this real you? i remember asking Arwinder the same some > time ago, and wish to bring that to remembrance. i have realized that > we are part and parcel of the Self, and that I AM THAT. That is why > all that is required is to maintain Silence on Self, i.e., your own > Self as you are that. i am sure this great book will help all of us > realize that. Shri Mataji's Self-realization is not the shallow, > corrupted and ignorant form that is being officially taught i.e., the > Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion. And what has all those fanatical > rituals, endless treatments and absurd doctrines got to do with the > Self, and its realization? As i have said before, the SYSSR is but > the useless skin of the onion. Only fools will follow it. > > Jai Ganapathy, > > > jagbir > > ---------- > > Dear All, > > In the late afternoon two days ago on 9-27-2006 i took Arwinder, my > 16-year-old son, to the clinic as he had some skin rash. While > waiting for the doctor i decided to ask him about the spirit as he > had told me earlier that his visits into his Sahasrara were now > getting less. In other words, as he was maturing he was meeting Shri > Mataji less frequently. (Lalita also has been telling me the same > for some time now.) That is why i decided to ask him about the > spirit as i was having some difficulty understanding what it is to > be a spirit? Since Arwinder meets the Adi Shakti in the Sahasara in > his spirit form I expected facts based on firsthand experience: > > i) i asked him if you can cross and pass one hand through the other > or for example across the neck. He replied that you can, and even > pass through fellow spirit beings or any obstacle for the matter. > > ii) so if you can cross the hands and pass them through each other > how was it possible to sit on Shri Durga's tiger? Arwinder replied > that the spirit can assume any form to do any task. If the intention > of your spirit is to sit on a tiger you will – the spirit just does > that effortlessly. > > iii) is it possible to feel one's heartbeat? In the first place, > does one have a heart? Arwinder said a spirit has no heart or any > internal organ for the matter. > > iv) can the spirit assume any form? Arwinder confirmed that it can. > The spirit can experience anything it desires - an insect, tree, > animal, human being, mountain, ocean ......... even an entire planet > or galaxy. It can contract into the smallest size or expand into the > largest. But he clarified that one is always conscious of being the > spirit. In other words, while experiencing being an ocean you are > always conscious that you are still a spirit. Thus from a ocean you > can easily become an entire galaxy, but at all times ever conscious > of being a spirit. This consciousness of being spirit is always > there. > > v) so what is the spirit form at all times? What are you when you > walk or sit? Arwinder said being the spirit and walking is like > experiencing the wind. He said as a human it is really difficult to > explain/understand this experience as there is nothing similar to > it. The wind is the best he can come up with as the form of spirit > is not solid. > > vi) do you sit in front of the Adi Shakti at all times when you meet > Her in the Sahasrara? He replied that there are times when She is > not there but that does not mean anything as She is always present > in Her invisible form and knows when you are meditating. All you > need to do is meditate, whether She is before you or not. The point > he was trying to make is that meditation should not be confined to > Her actual presence in the Sahasrara because She is everywhere, > within and without! Everything is Shakti. > > > Later the same evening i had a deep meditation that was full of > vibrations and bliss. This continued into yesterday (and today too). > There is something about the knowledge that brought forth this state > of mind. > > But I had forgotten to ask Arwinder one question – did he actually > experience being a tree or insect? > > Yesterday, as i went with him to get his contact lenses, i asked if > he actually experienced being a tree or mountain, since he was so > sure. He replied he never had experienced being a tree or mountain. > Naturally I asked, " So how do you know? " Arwinder replied that the > Adi Shakti had given and explained this knowledge to him. Then did > he ask Her to explain about the spirit? Arwinder replied that he > never asked but the Divine Mother explained about the spirit on Her > own accord. In fact She had over the years enlightened him about a > number of spiritual issues. > > i asked why he did not tell about spirit before? Arwinder replied he > was never asked. Neither did he offer to spill out the remaining > knowledge the Adi Shakti had given him. (The only time he did so was > more than a decade ago when on August 9, 1995 he declared that he > meditates with the Adi Shakti, and explained his experiences in > detail. He was five.) Maybe that knowledge will be revealed as and > when necessary and i have no desire to extract it yet. The Shakti has > Her own way of making that happen. > > Now i know why over the past two days i am having deep meditations > that are full of bliss and vibrations. It is because the knowledge > of " spirit " is coming directly from the eternal Shri Lalita Devi who > resides in all Sahasraras. It is knowledge that the Divine Mother > wants humans to know. Aham Brahma Asmi (I am Brahman) and Tat Twam > Asi (That Thou Art) makes more sense now. i now want to be Silent > for a few days to savour this Divine Nectar from Brahman Herself. > > Jai Shri Ganapathi, > > > jagbir > > > ------------------------------ > > Mahavakyas, or Great Sayings, of the Upanishads > Prepared by Jayaram Srinivasan > > Prajnanam Brahma - Consciousness is Brahman > > (Aitareya Upanishad 3.3, of Rg Veda) > > > Ayam Atma Brahma - This Self is Brahman > > (Mandukya Upanishad 1.2, of Atharva Veda) > > > Tat Tvam Asi - Thou art that > > (Chandogya Upanishad 6.8.7, of Sama Veda, Kaivalya Upanishad) > > > Aham Brahmasmi - I am Brahman > > (Brhadaranyaka Upanishad 1.4.10, of Yajur Veda, Mahanarayana > Upanishad) > > > ------------------------------ > > Prajnanam Brahma - Consciousness is Brahman > > (Aitareya Upanishad 3.3, of Rg Veda) > > Other Translations: Brahman is pure consciousness; Brahman is > knowing; Brahman is intelligence > > In the sentence, `Prajnanam Brahma' or Consciousness is Brahman, a > definition of Reality is given. The best definition of Brahman > would be to give expression to its supra-essential essence, and not > to describe it with reference to accidental attributes, such as > creatorship etc. That which is ultimately responsible for all our > sensory activities, as seeing, hearing, etc., is Consciousness. > Though Consciousness does not directly see or hear, it is impossible > to have these sensory operations without it. Hence it should be > considered as the final meaning of our mental and physical > activities. Brahman is that which is Absolute, fills all space, is > complete in itself, to which there is no second, and which is > continuously present in everything, from the creator down to the > lowest of matter. It, being everywhere, is also in each and every > individual. This is the meaning of Prajnanam Brahma occurring in > the Aitareya Upanishad.** > > > ------------------------------ > > Ayam Atma Brahma - This Self is Brahman > > (Mandukya Upanishad 1.2, of Atharva Veda) > > Other Translations: Brahman is this Self; This Self is Brahma > > The Mahavakya, `Ayam Atma Brahma' or `This Self is Brahman,' occurs > in the Mandukya Upanishad. `Ayam' means `this,' and here `thisness' > refers to the self-luminous and non-mediate nature of the Self, > which is internal to everything, from the Ahamkara or ego down to > the physical body. This Self is Brahman, which is the substance out > of which all things are really made. That which is everywhere, is > also within us, and what is within us is everywhere. This is > called `Brahman,' because it is plenum, fills all space, expands > into all existence, and is vast beyond all measure of perception or > knowledge. On account of self-luminosity, non-relativity and > universality, Atman and Brahman are the same. This identification > of the Self with Absolute is not any act of bringing together two > differing natures, but is an affirmation that absoluteness or > universality includes everything, and there is nothing outside it.** > > > ------------------------------ > > Tat Tvam Asi - Thou art that > > (Chandogya Upanishad 6.8.7, of Sama Veda, Kaivalya Upanishad) > > Other Translations: That is how you are; That art thou > > In the Chandogya Upanishad occurs the Mahavakya, `Tat Tvam Asi' > or `That thou art.' Sage Uddalaka mentions this nine times, while > instructing his disciple Svetaketu in the nature of Reality. That > which is one alone without a second, without name and form, and > which existed before creation, as well as after creation, as pure > Existence alone, is what is referred to as Tat or That, in this > sentence. The term Tvam stands for that which is in the innermost > recesses of the student or the aspirant, but which is transcendent > to the intellect, mind, senses, etc., and is the real 'I' of the > student addressed in the teaching. The union of Tat and Tvam is by > the term Asi or are. That Reality is remote is a misconception, > which is removed by the instruction that it is within one's own > self. The erroneous notion that the Self is limited is dispelled by > the instruction that it is the same as Reality.** > > > ------------------------------ > > Aham Brahmasmi - I am Brahman. > > (Brhadaranyaka Upanishad 1.4.10, of Yajur Veda, Mahanarayana > Upanishad) > > In the sentence, `Aham Brahmasmi,' or I am Brahman, the `I' is that > which is the One Witnessing Consciousness, standing apart form even > the intellect, different from the ego-principle, and shining through > every act of thinking, feeling, etc. This Witness-Consciousness, > being the same in all, is universal, and cannot be distinguished > from Brahman, which is the Absolute. Hence the essential `I' which > is full, super-rational and resplendent, should be the same as > Brahman. This is not the identification of the limited > individual `I' with Brahman, but it is the Universal Substratum of > individuality that is asserted to be what it is. The copula `am' > does not signify any empirical relation between two entities, but > affirms the non-duality of essence. This dictum is from the > Brhadaranyaka Upanishad.** > > > ** Excerpted from: Swami Krishnananda, The Philosophy of the > Panchadasi, " Chapter V: Discrimination of the Mahavakyas, " The > Divine Life Society, Sivananda Ashram, Rishikesh, India. > > http://www.jayarams.com/dharma/mahavakyas.html > > ------------------------------ > > AHAM BRAHMA ASMI > > Aham Brahma asmi or " I am the Brahman " is one of the corner piller > of the hindu Philosophy. > > A crude transilation would be " I am the world " (or I am the creator > of the world " ), As there is no world (My world) with out me, I am > the one who creates my world, the good the bd, the relations in it, > the happiness in it the sorrow in it, so I am the god of my world. > > Max Muller makes it more explicit when he says: If people conceive > God as a kind of Jupiter, or even as a Jehovah, then the idea can > only be considered blasphemous… But after the Deity had been freed > from its mythological character, the human mind, whether in India or > elsewhere, had once realised the fact, that God was all in all, that > there could be nothing besides God, that there could be one Infinite > only, not two, the conclusion that the human soul also belonged to > God was inevitable. > > > TAT TWAM ASI > > Tat Tvam Asi, a sanskrit sentence, translating variously to " Thou > art that " , " That thou art " , or " You are that " , is one of the four > Mahâvâkyas (Grand Pronouncements) in Hinduism. It originally occurs > in the Chandogya Upanishad. It first occurs in Chandogya 6.8.7, in > the dialogue between Uddâlaka and his son Úvetaketu; it appears at > the end of a section, and is repeated at the end of the subsequent > sections as a refrain. It is generally taken to mean that your soul > or consciousness is wholly or partially the Ultimate Reality. That > is to say, even before the creation of the universe, a unitary, > divine consciousness existed, and that this consciousness is > identical to your deepest self. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Dear Violet and all, i will definitely do so as and when suitable. All of us are going to benefit, and that includes myself. Future seekers will greatly advance spiritually in a much shorter time with all the wealth of mystical knowledge based on genuine experiences that helps understand the esoteric secrets/parables/facts of the scriptures. regards to all, jagbir , " Violet " <violet.tubb wrote: > > Dear Jagbir, > > The way you have related Sri Nisargadatta's quotes in " I AM THAT " and the mystical knowledge given by Shri Mataji through your children - in your own words and with your comments included, is very helpful for the understanding of this mystical knowledge. i feel it would be spiritually beneficial if you could do more of these, which might help to dispel in SY minds and hearts, Yogi Mahajan et al's maya that the mystical knowledge Shri Mataji gave through the special personalities from Montreal, Canada, is possessed of evil. > > warmest regards, > > violet > > > > , " jagbir > singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > The postman just delivered the book " I AM THAT " by Sri Nisargadatta > > Maharaj. Tuesday is indeed an auspicious day to receive spiritual > > gifts. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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