Re eliminating delusionary posts on the subject of Kalki

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagbir and moderators,

 

i propose that with the discretion of the moderators, we do not approve any

posts with the words 'Shri Kalki', 'Kalki', 'Rider on a White Horse' or

'Shamballa' in them, if there is even the slightest doubt or suspicion that it

might be Ishmael or his group of followers - whatever their latest fake I.d. or

name may be! 99.99999% of yogis never discuss or describe Shri Kalki in personal

terms like this group do, so it is a big giveaway as to their identity! Shri

Mataji Nirmala Devi only ever taught about Shri Kalki in terms of a collective

spiritual happening. She never ever taught about it as an individual spiritual

happening, as this group that have broken off from the organisation of Sahaja

Yoga, are doing. We might not have a lot of information on Shri Kalki but what

we do have, should i feel, not be tainted in the minds of forum members by any

association whatsoever with Ishmael's spiritual fantasies. What do you say?

 

violet

 

 

, " jagbir

singh " <adishakti_org wrote:

>

> Hi Kumud and all,

>

> The impression i am getting is that you are quite unbalanced and

have

> some serious mental problems. You do not seem sane enough even to

> answer simple questions.

>

> And if " this time is different " and is the new way you guys are

> spreading Sahaja Yoga in " Calcutta , Chhatisgarh , Orissa and other

> parts where every day SY programme is going on " i have bad news for

> you - few seekers will want to become SYs like you. i have stopped

> wondering why SY is not spreading a long time ago, thanks to SYSSR

> freaks like you:

>

> " , " yogikumud "

> <yogikumud@> wrote:

>

> Please guide.

> How to solve financial problems in real life with SY help.

> How to cure problems of Left Swadhisthan catch.

> Constant hot or presence of something in and around right ear and

hot

> on back agnya is there? What does this mean? please comment.

> I also often get catch with left heart and have a sinking feeling

for

> long. What to do?

> Some SY say my home is possessed and some occult practices are going

> on there to harm us ?

> Recently elder brother died of Heart attack and I dreamt of some

> person warning me it my time to die now ? what does this mean.

> I am not afraid being in SY but always have a left sinking heart.

>

> Please enlighten. "

>

>

> So please go and join the official divinesahajayoga forum where

they

> can shoe-beat the insanity out of you ............. or schedule a

> marathon matka treatment to bring sanity back.

>

> And while you are there please update us on this promising, cutting-

> edge SY enlightenment and research that may became the rave in

future.

> Imagine what it will do for the fortunes of SY if animal-lovers all

> over the world just get a whiff of it. i heard the experiments are

> almost complete and our hyper-excited WCASY leaders are waiting

with

> abated breath, and are already stepping on one another's toes to be

> the first to make the grand announcment:

>

> -----------------------------

>

> Another beautiful article forward from " toni "

> <toni on animals

>

> Cats ....Bats and Spiders.......

>

> Namaste !

>

>

>

> Collected Insights about

>

> " cats and vibrations "

>

> Lisa from Kathmandu told me that cats can absorb Spirits. This is

> all. Some will do it, but some won't like it.

>

> *******

>

>

> cats are said to lie down and sleep on places with " bad vibrations "

> inside the house, they can absorb these " bad-ies " and when they go

> out in the garden Mother Earth is going to purify the cat again.

>

> *******

>

>

> When we were living at Shudy Camps we had a house cat for the mice.

>

> Mother one day asked us to move her dining room to the hallway and

> the cat ran into and under mothers chair.

>

> The yogi's there ran around and tried to catch the cat and mother

> told them to stop because actually the cat wanted to go there

because

> of the vibrations.

>

> Mother named the cat Narashima and also told us a few things about

> their evolution.

>

> Evolutionally they are at a dead end and that is why the cat is

> attracted to all types of vibrations bad or good.

>

> Mother also said that the reason why the cats come and sit in our

> laps is because they feel the bad vibrations and suck them up.

>

> *******

>

>

> Cats are not bhoots, I only heard that about the following animals:

>

> wasps (Aggressive Nazi bhoots), spiders (are able to even absorb

left

> side negativity from their surrounding), mosquitos and probably

quite

> a few other insects...

>

> Truth is, that cats and dogs both can see bhoots but their reaction

> is usually different. Dogs bark and get rid of the bhoots where

cats

> may welcome them. An average stray cat carries one or more of those

> filthy creatures usually.

>

> I tested that myself (Don't try it at home :-) ) by feeling and

> trying to give vibrations to street cats. They would turn very

> aggressive and bite/scratch me. Dogs usually always enjoy

vibrations

> and have a very deep sense for a person with gravity.

>

> Nevertheless a cat living in a Sahaj environment will not do so and

> on the contrary enjoy vibrations. Our cat for example stretches out

> in the meditation room paws up (!) when we meditate. The dog I took

> care of before in an ashram did the same.

>

> Finally we should not forget the high impact on the pets by their

> owner's behaviour / state. If the human is crazy, mostly his

animals

> will be, too :-)

>

>

> *******

>

>

> Here is a small story which happened in Graz, a city in Austria,

> during Shri Mataji's first visit to Graz, I believe in 1986 or 1987.

>

> Prelude:

>

> We too by then had heard about bhootish cats and had even learnt to

> distinguish between different categories. When we gave a bandhan to

a

> cat and the cat continued purring without any other reaction we

knew

> the cat was OK. But sometimes cats reacted quite violently to our

> bandhans, with all tail hair at and disappearing with loud shrieks,

> then we knew we had encountered a cat which was possessed.

>

> The story:

>

> We lived in a very nice ashram in the outskirts of the city, right

> next to a forest. Since we had moved there a small young kitten

> visited us almost daily, and she loved to have a small bowl of milk

> and then fall asleep right in front of the picture of Shri Mataji's

> feet in the meditation room.

>

> We enjoyed these visits and got used to them, considering the

little

> cat as a legitimate member of our ashram.

>

> Then Shri Mataji's visit was announced! In preparation of Her visit

> we turned the whole house upside down and soon we had forgotten

about

> the cat.

>

> When Shri Mataji finally arrived and was standing in the entrance

> during the welcome aarti, the cat turned up and went straight to

the

> feet of Shri Adi Shakti! I noticed it and tried as much as I could

to

> lure the cat away from there, so as to not to disturb the

> auspiciousness of the aarti.

>

> Shri Mataji noticed my attempts, as well as the cat at Her feet,

and

> smilingly said: " Just let her, she knows where to get the coolest

> vibrations from! "

>

> This closed the discussion about cats for me.

>

>

>

> PS: About giving realization to animals: While some animals are

> definitely very receptive for vibrations (just remember Shri

Mataji's

> dogs in Cabella!), I still believe it is much more important for us

> to remember the billions of humans who still haven't had a chance

to

> hear about the advent of Shri Mataji and Sahaja Yoga.

>

> --------------------------------

>

>

> Yes, only highly evolved SYs souls practising the awesome SYSSR can

> reach such states of enlightenment. Yogikumund has his work cut out

> for him to reach those levels. And myself, having only reached 2%

of

> enlightenment, should not even consider to be the dirty salt of

their

> daily foot-soaked feet.

>

> regards to all,

>

>

> jagbir

>

>

> , " Kumud Sharma "

> <yogikumud@> wrote:

> >

> > *Truth is like gold. Its shine is inherent in its purity.

Similarly

> the

> > truth

> > that Sahajayoga is Adishakti's love to know her love and

ultimately

> melt in

> > Her ocean of love. Kumud is none but a part and parcel of

> Adishakti. Kumud

> > as a SY, is Jagbir and Violet, anyone's son, daughter and ALSO

> Ishmael /

> > Rahim / Ram /John but nothing which is out side SY in any manner.

> Similarly

> > you brothers and sisters are one in Her divinity with all of us.

No

> matter

> > we are where in this world.In SY or outside SY. What is the best

> > part of all of us is we have been given realisation by Her. We

are

> bound

> > silently from inside by every word spoken by H.H. and not any one

> else so

> > far meditation and spreading of SY message is

> > concerned so long it is not in opposition

> > There cannot be distinction between one and other but vibratory

> awareness

> > and knowledge

> > of codification of vibrations. Adishakti is in Her physical form

> with full

> > sense is working out

> > herself by divine way. Shri GANESH is always every where with all

> of us. So

> > how any question

> > can arise as regard to SY and SYS. May be temporarily anyone of

us

> can

> > become wayward due

> > to illusion created by Mahamaya and get involve in 'I', 'MY'

> and 'Mine' but

> > include 'our' and 'ourselves'.Please please remember our Mother's

> vision

> > rest of our talking and thinking about anything and anyone else is

> > immaterial. Our purpose is to evolve from human being to what our

> > Mother has visioned.

> > Once 'DIVINE' manifests in us we maintain what Jagbirji has

> said 'SILENCE ON

> > SELF' is only answer to all questions.

> > When we speak of glory of our Mother's deeds and miracles from

> beginning to

> > now it helps us to

> > understand Her true Mahamaya self.

> > P.S: You both are elders and good SY. Please clean your this

> brother with

> > your vibratory awareness.

> >

> > With love

> > Kumud Sharma

> > *

> > On Jan 22, 2008 3:07 AM, Violet <violet.tubb@> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > Appended is a wonderful Blake quote that someone sent me, and i

> thought i

> > > would make it 'Quote for the Day'!

> > >

> > > violet

> > >

> > > " He who will not defend Truth, may be compelled to

> > > Defend a lie, that he may be snared and caught and taken "

> > >

> > > - William Blake

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Excellent idea Violet. Enforce it right away. - jagbir

 

, " Violet "

<violet.tubb wrote:

>

> Dear Jagbir and moderators,

>

> i propose that with the discretion of the moderators, we do not

approve any posts with the words 'Shri Kalki', 'Kalki', 'Rider on a

White Horse' or 'Shamballa' in them, if there is even the slightest

doubt or suspicion that it might be Ishmael or his group of

followers - whatever their latest fake I.d. or name may be! 99.99999%

of yogis never discuss or describe Shri Kalki in personal terms like

this group do, so it is a big giveaway as to their identity! Shri

Mataji Nirmala Devi only ever taught about Shri Kalki in terms of a

collective spiritual happening. She never ever taught about it as an

individual spiritual happening, as this group that have broken off

from the organisation of Sahaja Yoga, are doing. We might not have a

lot of information on Shri Kalki but what we do have, should i feel,

not be tainted in the minds of forum members by any association

whatsoever with Ishmael's spiritual fantasies. What do you say?

>

> violet

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagbir,

 

Done! Gerlinde has already emailed me privately to say she agrees, and i am sure

Nicole will also agree, with no problems.

 

violet

 

 

, " jagbir

singh " <adishakti_org wrote:

>

> Excellent idea Violet. Enforce it right away. - jagbir

>

> , " Violet "

> <violet.tubb@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jagbir and moderators,

> >

> > i propose that with the discretion of the moderators, we do not

> approve any posts with the words 'Shri Kalki', 'Kalki', 'Rider on a

> White Horse' or 'Shamballa' in them, if there is even the slightest

> doubt or suspicion that it might be Ishmael or his group of

> followers - whatever their latest fake I.d. or name may be!

99.99999%

> of yogis never discuss or describe Shri Kalki in personal terms

like

> this group do, so it is a big giveaway as to their identity! Shri

> Mataji Nirmala Devi only ever taught about Shri Kalki in terms of a

> collective spiritual happening. She never ever taught about it as

an

> individual spiritual happening, as this group that have broken off

> from the organisation of Sahaja Yoga, are doing. We might not have

a

> lot of information on Shri Kalki but what we do have, should i

feel,

> not be tainted in the minds of forum members by any association

> whatsoever with Ishmael's spiritual fantasies. What do you say?

> >

> > violet

> >

>