Honesty demands WCASY dispenses with demonizing the children!

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagbir and All,

 

Shri Mataji is (and has been) speaking again after 5 years of self-imposed

Silence. WCASY members made themselves 'the Adi Shakti's Will to Sahaja Yogis'

during those silent years. Not only have they done that, but i think they might

have done some things that they would not have done, had they known She would

again assume Her Will and Desire in the organisation of Sahaja Yoga.

 

Most Sahaja Yogis commenced surrendering their wills to the 'De-facto Will of

the Adi Shakti' (namely WCASY) - thus leaving their self-mastery and spiritual

integrity behind. Others found themselves outside the organisation of Sahaja

Yoga, working to bring to the public awareness Her Identity, Mission, Message

and the Evidence that Shri Mataji gave to Confirm Her Incarnation - which WCASY

through their dishonesty refused to openly give to the world-at-large, in spite

of Shri Mataji repeatedly telling them to do so.

 

The reins had been given to WCASY to steer the Sahaj Organisational Ship in the

right direction and to do the best they were capable of. No accolades of " Well

done thou good and faithful servant! " appear to have been forthcoming from their

efforts though. Instead, Shri Mataji brings up issues of dishonesty,

adulteration, lying and lack of appeasing the Devi that resides within:

 

a./ Dishonesty

 

" So the first thing you have to do is never be a dishonest person nor let others

become [dishonest] or be dishonest. This is very important and all of you should

together make it possible. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Diwali Puja Talk - 2007)

 

 

b./ Adulteration:

 

" The milk is adulterated, ghee is adulterated. Where ever I see everything is

adulterated. All the people laugh at us, nobody believes us. " (Shri Mataji

Nirmala Devi - Diwali Puja Talk - 2007)

 

 

c./ Lying:

 

" And second point is you don't have to tell any lies. What is the need to tell

any lies? You tell the truth! The person who will always tell the truth, he will

be a special [person] and if he is a Sahaja Yogi then he will be magnificent. "

(Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Diwali Puja Talk - 2007)

 

 

d./ resultant lack of appeasing/pleasing the Devi that resides within:

 

" But on the day of Sankranti we should know that we should appease the Devi

residing within us and should know how to please the Devi. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala

Devi - Sakshat Sankranti Puja in Pratishthan - 17 January, 2008)

 

 

The basic issue is about honesty. If there is honesty, then there won't be

dishonesty, adulteration, lying, or lack of pleasing the Devi that resides

within. Here is what Shri Mataji says about honesty:

 

" So the first thing you have to do is never be a dishonest person nor let others

become or be dishonest. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Diwali Puja Talk - 2007)

 

So what does Shri Mataji say about honesty? She says that firstly a person must

be honest to begin with and then they must prevent others from being dishonest

or becoming dishonest. WCASY have been trying their utmost to shut down this

honest website and associated forum for a while now. WCASY have foresworn many

Sahaja Yogis off of http://www.adishakti.org/ saying that Jagbir is being unduly

critical. Jagbir has repeatedly stated that he is only trying to prevent Sahaja

Yogis from being dishonest or from becoming dishonest. i hope Sahaja Yogis will

finally realise the utmost importance of being honest, and not allowing others

to be dishonest or become dishonest. For the collective edification of Sahaja

Yogis, here are Her Words again:

 

" So the first thing you have to do is never be a dishonest person nor let others

become or be dishonest. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Diwali Puja Talk - 2007)

 

Honesty from WCASY demands that they do away with the demonization of the

children who have given Evidence to Confirm Shri Mataji's Incarnation. Will they

be up to that? It is up to them, if they will be up to that. But before they

deal with the issues of dishonesty, adulteration and lying, they will not be

able to appease or please the Devi that resides within!

 

i have read what you have written in answer to my question, Jagbir, and this is

why i am sure that when Shri Mataji spoke about the " Living Organisation of

Sahaja Yoga " that She did not mean the trappings of an external organisation of

Sahaja Yoga that can cut someone off from the Sahaja Yoga Newsletters for the

heinous spiritual crime of upholding the special personalities that She said

would give Evidence to Confirm Her Incarnation - in other words, for doing

nothing wrong (as happened to this writer!) The trappings of this dead

organisation (meaning the opposite of the " Living Organisation of Sahaja Yoga " )

still has the ghost of Yogi Mahajan in it, because others have taken on Yogi

Mahajan's Anti-Mystical Evidence stance, thereby trying to deny Shri Mataji the

evidence needed to Confirm Her Incarnation!

 

One could go further and say it has become a 'cultish factor', i.e. a Cult

Following of Yogi Mahajan by the leaders themselves, which they have filtered

through to rank and file SY's like, within the organisation called Sahaja Yoga.

The " Living Organisation of Sahaja Yoga " cannot of its own nature, accept

anything that goes against Shri Mataji's Identity, Mission, Message and Evidence

that Confirms Her Incarnation - can it?! That to me, is the difference between

the " Living " and the " dead " Organisation.

 

So you say Jagbir that Yogi Mahajan approached this mad Kalki fellow for advice

regarding Kash's mystical evidence - evidence that has confirmed Shri Mataji's

Incarnation. But surely YM being the right-hand-man of Shri Mataji in the

organisation, must first have consulted Her?! Did he disagree with Her at that

early stage too, and rather seek out the opinion of this mad Kalki fellow

instead?! Because if he could disagree with what Shri Mataji said in approval of

your book, Shri Adi Shakti: Kingdom of God, just prior to getting sacked from

Her organisation - he must have disapproved of Shri Mataji's approval right from

the beginning! Then he set out to demonize the children, and WCASY have followed

in his footsteps. Honesty demands that WCASY stop demonizing your children

unofficially and in private emails, and openly declare their non-approval of the

Evidence Shri Mataji gave to Confirm Her Incarnation. Why don't they do it

Jagbir? Why aren't they honest, and openly in a letter to you and to all of us,

declare that you are not a Sahaja Yogi and like Yogi Mahajan believed, they too

believe that your children are demon-possessed? You have asked them for a letter

to clarify one way or another, haven't you?

 

What was it with this Yogi Mahajan character anyway? What made him think he knew

better than Shri Mataji Herself? Was following in YM's footsteps why WCASY

members also usurped Her Will in the hearts and minds of Sahaja Yogis during Her

5 years of self-imposed Divine Silence? This is such a spiritually dishonest

thing that has happened in the organisation called Sahaja Yoga, that it goes

beyond spiritual comprehension - because the Adi Shakti/Holy Spirit's Will can

only ever manifest from within each Sahaja Yogi! It never manifests from without

the person!

 

Anyone who says they are the Will of the Holy Spirit to you, is dishonest,

adulterates the truth, lies, and is not pleasing the Devi that resides within

them! It is therefore not surprising that there is a notable lack of: " Well done

thou good and faithful servant! " from Shri Mataji to WCASY members - upon Her

return from self-imposed Silence. And what did Shri Mataji learn? She learned

what WCASY will do, when left to their own devices - a 'test run' you could say,

for when She has Her Mahasammadhi. She now knows what would have happened, had

She had Her Mahasammadhi, and She is setting the record straight, in the minds

and hearts of rank and file SY's who are under WCASY - that they have to appease

and please " who " ? They have to appease and please the Devi that resides

within!!!

 

WCASY as a group of SY's over the rank and file SY's have proved to be a group

that is very lacking in spiritual integrity, which is why it is depressing for

honest Sahaja Yogis to be under their organisational control. That's why some

honest SY's have had no choice but to leave and work from outside Her

Organisation, in order to give Her Identity, Mission, Message, and Evidence that

will confirm Her Incarnation to the world-at-large. What i am saying does not

mean i do not have Sahaj Love for the SYs who are members of WCASY. It's just

that i expect each one of them to be honest and to prevent others from being

dishonest also!

 

 

i would like to respond to your answer, Jagbir:

 

 

> Dear Violet and all,

>

> There have been a number of Kalki wannabes in Sahaja Yoga. This

> particular Kalki came to Montreal from Toronto (and is not Ishmael)

> After returning back to Toronto he claimed that Kash was

> responsible for his 'madness'. So how mad was he?

 

[i see. So there were a few Kalki wannabes! Every person is responsible for

their own self. But this 'Kalki wannabe' blamed a child for his madness! Like

you say, it just goes to show how completely irresponsible and made he actually

was to blame an innocent child for his own madness!]

 

 

> " One of them had just undergone the trauma of a failed business,

> financial losses, self-abuse and a divorce (and sought refuge in

> meditation.) Within days he believed himself to be `Shri Kalki',

> endowed with 'supreme powers' that would unleash worldwide

> destruction with his laser eyes, and begin Armageddon. He told that

> he had already meditated and 'talked' with Shri Mataji about

> cleansing the world. He then prepared a statement addressed to all

> Sahaja Yogis in North America. In it he declared he was Shri Kalki

> and gave a list of commands for the Sahaja Yogis to follow. He

> told Kash's father to fax copies of this letter to all centers.

> Being the incarnation of Shri Kalki, he would lead the Armageddon

> as Lord Jesus was about to appear over New York city any time.

> According to him the Bible had predicted that only 144,000 were

> to remain alive. He admitted it was a heartless task but he had to

> perform his duty! " ...

 

[He is definitely a crackpot! This reminds me of David Koresh and the control he

exercised over his followers! i can see that it is the same type of mad,

controlling personality, that Yogi Mahajan sought advice from!]

 

 

> However, this stranger began to get even stranger. The 'voices' in

> his head began to make him do crazy things — get down on all four

> limbs and bark like a dog, buy hundreds of Lotto 6/49 tickets, hand

> money to passersby, instantly analyze character, probe intentions,

> read minds, and other peculiarities. Nearly every human being he

> met was having a satanic stench, and he was having an extremely

> hard time keeping the little sanity he had. Evil was everywhere and

> he had nowhere to run!

 

[i remember Shri Mataji telling us about such a crazy person and yet YM sought

his advice instead of following Shri Mataji's advice, which was " most

spiritually undiscerning " of Yogi Mahajan! People do have a natural spiritual

faculty of discerning what a person might be thinking, or what his character

might be - but to do such as this 'mad Kalki' was doing, with his on-the-spot

character analysis, reading people's minds, and so forth, given from the voices

inside his head, is a clear case of possession. There is nowhere for such a

person to run and hide; they are tormented souls.]

 

 

> A few days later he came with about a dozen assorted secondhand

> books that the 'voices' had told were for Kash's father. He was

> taken to the basement and told to calm down. That only further

> agitated him. Suddenly he saw a protrusion in the ceiling, vaguely

> resembling a boat's hull, and exclaimed, " This is the ship with the

> Holy Grail. " That was the end of the witness state. Kash's father

> told him to stop hallucinating, and bluntly told him that all his

> visions were figments of his imagination. 'Shri Kalki' got very

> hurt, started crying and stomped away, muttering that no one

> believed him. He never came back again.

 

[it is unbelievable what you have had to endure, Jagbir. He was very definitely

hallucinating and having a childish temper tantrum to boot, when you would not

accept his hallucinations as genuine mystical experiences. He was certainly not

in control of his own faculties and behaviour. His mental and emotional

condition were very poorly.]

 

 

> Instead he went into deeper into his own nightmarish world. Just

> before going to India he was plotting to kill a priest because

> 'voices' within were pestering him to do so. He hung around the

> Saint Joseph's Oratory in Montreal, the largest shrine in the world

> dedicated to St. Joseph, to familiarize himself with the area, the

> movement of priests, and the escape route. A number of times he was > on the

verge of committing this heinous act, but for some reason was

> unable to carry out the order of the 'voices.' Had he done so the

> blame would have been clearly on Kash, his father, Sahaja Yoga and

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. The world media would have had a feeding

> frenzy and SHRI ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF GOD never seen the light

> of day.

 

> But for some reason he was just unable to carry out his crazy

> scheme. Some power of the Great ADI SHAKTI prevented him from

> lifting even a finger from carrying out his demented desire. "

>

> Shri Adi Shakti: The Kingdom Of God, page 111

 

[Jagbir, i have asked my husband Peter (R.N.) whether, when a person " hears many

voices in the head " , are they then diagnosed as schizophrenic? He said that if a

person is " hearing voices in the head " then they are diagnosed as schizophrenic.

There is no doubt in my mind therefore, that given the " voices in the head "

urging this Kalki character to commit a murder, his hallucinations, his blaming

Kash for his own mental state, and his crying and temper tantrums, just because

you, Jagbir, would not do as he wanted you to do - that it clearly points to

schizophrenic behaviour. That YM approached such a mentally unstable character,

makes me inclined to believe that he deliberately sought a negative opinion from

the 'mad Kalki' to run with, rather than the positive mention by Shri Mataji of

yourself and your children - especially when you also say (further down) that:

 

" Yogi Mahajan was especially 'mad' - i was told a few years ago that he

disagreed with Shri Mataji over Her approval of the book, just before being

sacked. "

 

So have WCASY members in a sense gone 'spiritually mad' too, because like Yogi

Mahajan they have chosen to follow the negative opinion of the mentally unstable

Kalki? In this area at least, they seem now to be following their leader, Yogi

Mahajan's opinion rather than their true leader, Shri Mataji's repeated positive

mention of Jagbir's book, which is based on the mystical experiences She has

given, to confirm Her Incarnation. And Sahaja Yogis are following WCASY who are

following Yogi Mahajan who followed 'mad Kalki's' opinion! Unless rank and file

Sahaja Yogis become informed on this matter, through the website of

http://www.adishakti.org/ alone (for WCASY have deliberately wiped this mystical

knowledge from all SY eyes and ears!) - they will not be able to form their own

positive opinion, i.e. they won't even be able to make up their own minds, on

the evidence Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi gave through the " special children " that i

and a roomful of yogis heard Her talk about at Sydney Airport, in 1994! But

WCASY may fear and tremble, because Shri Mataji also prophesied that " you will

hear about them later " . If Shri Mataji says it, it will come true! The Sahaja

Yogis will hear about the children, despite all the hard work WCASY have done,

to prevent Sahaja Yogis from hearing about them! Just wait and see Her prophecy

She gave at Sydney Airport come true! WCASY will be found out in their deceit,

that terrible thing they have done, to follow a mad Kalki, a false leader (YM)

instead of following their Ever Loving Mother, Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, who

introduced them to their Individual Mother Within - but they have rather

followed a lie! This is why Shri Mataji has recently had to say to them all:

 

" But on the day of Sankranti we should know that we should appease the Devi

residing within us and should know how to please the Devi. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala

Devi - Sakshat Sankranti Puja in Pratishthan - 17 January, 2008)

 

If they want to please the Devi residing within, they cannot discount the

evidence She gave, to confirm Her Incarnation. Period!!!

 

In this process of demonization, the WCASY leadership have called Jagbir a

" non-SY " just to effectively " label " him that way, so that if any Sahaja Yogis

do hear about him or the children (despite their absolute Sahaj Media Control!)

- the SY's who will hear about them will hopefully (according to them) discount

Jagbir and his children's mystical experiences straight away, without first

using their own critical faculties of spiritual discernment! They tried to

discount Jagbir to me, calling him a " non-SY " . i did not fall for their untruth;

their deceit. i told them that " Jagbir is a Sahaja Yogi! How is he not a SY?

They could not answer me! They had no valid answer! If that is how they want to

be truthful, that is their choice, in the bed they have to lie in! i do not want

to lie in such an untruthful bed of deceit! i would rather always follow Shri

Mataji's quite recent advice of:

 

" So the first thing you have to do is never be a dishonest person nor let others

become [dishonest] or be dishonest. This is very important and all of you should

together make it possible. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Diwali Puja Talk - 2007)

 

What Shri Mataji said here, should be music to the ears of Sahaja Yogis, for it

gives permission to hold WCASY (SY leadership) accountable to the Truth! If SY's

don't do that, then i fear for the organisation of Sahaja Yoga, being an honest,

truthful organisation, with regard to what Shri Mataji has given! Positions of

leadership are not there - at the expense of truth! Positions of leadership in

the organisation of Sahaja Yoga, are not there for private ambitions of power,

money, prestige or fame. Are SY's and Sahaj Leaders willing to sacrifice these

on the altar of Truth for Her Identity, Mission, Message, and the Evidence She

has given to Confirm Her Incarnation? In the end, that is all that will matter -

i.e. " to please the Devi that resides within! " ]

 

 

> At that time this Kalki was also in Delhi as he wanted to learn

> Indian music. Yogi Mahajan approached him to learn more about

> Kash. And Kalki must have insisted that his madness was caused

> by that evil Kash. And Yogi Mahajan began a long campaign to rid

> the SY organization of a most dangerous negativity, and he had no

> shortage of rank and file SYs willing to do his bidding.

 

[so this is where it started! Yogi Mahajan, the famed world leader that many

Sahaja Yogis kow-towed to - approached the 'David Koresh' type character; this

'mad Kalki' - and WCASY is still following the advice of this 'mad Kalki' today

and continuing to demonize the children, who have given the Evidence to Confirm

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's Incarnation. Rank and file Sahaja Yogis really have

to wake up to this demonic infestation in the organisation of Sahaja Yoga and

demand that WCASY finally be truthful about this whole 'spiritually sordid'

mess!]

 

 

> For a few years i kept quiet as i was busy writing the book. i

> thought that Shri Mataji's praise and approval of the book would

> make them realize otherwise.

 

[As one would do! One would think that when Shri Mataji praised and approved a

book, that Sahaja Yogis would do likewise! How can it go the opposite way? i

just don't understand it!]

 

 

> But i was so wrong. The whole of North American was dead against

> the book. Yogi Mahajan was especially 'mad' - i was told a few years

> ago that he disagreed with Shri Mataji over Her approval of the

> book, just before being sacked.

 

[so North American Sahaja Yogis followed Yogi Mahajan's advice, rather than

following Shri Mataji's advice! The question therefore begs to be asked: " Were

the rank and file yogis of North America even told by the leaders, that Shri

Mataji had praised and approved the book? " Or did the leaders just tell the rank

and file SY's Yogi Mahajan's version - which if they did, would point to the

beginnings of a cult following of Yogi Mahajan!]

 

 

> The situation has not changed much today in North America. i still

> don't know why and which part of the book they disapprove. They are

> even willing to defy Shri Mataji's repeated approval and praise!

 

[i believe the situation is slowly but surely starting to change in North

America. i have evidence of yogi/s starting to ask questions of past and/or

present Sahaj Leaders, which they have a right to ask. i believe that honest

yogis are beginning to do what Shri Mataji asked that " together we do " , i.e. to

be honest to begin with, and then keep others honest, and not let others fall

into dishonesty:

 

" So the first thing you have to do is never be a dishonest person nor let others

become [dishonest] or be dishonest. This is very important and all of you should

together make it possible. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Diwali Puja Talk -

2007)]

 

 

> i am sure WCASY and NIPC would have legally shut www.adishakti.org

> down if it was in their power. They just cannot because Shri

> Mataji's permission was sought a few times, and She approved. (i

> remember WCASY member Manoj Kumar trying to shut down

> www.adishakti.org late 1999 claiming that i did not have WRITTEN

> PERMISSION to use Shri Mataji quotes!)

 

[They are just so power-mad that it is unbelievable. Do they think that the Adi

Shakti is so naive as to allow everything in the hands of the past 'scribes and

Pharisees' whom She says have incarnated at this time, and come into the

organisation of Sahaja Yoga? Do they really believe She is " that naive " ? Do they

not realise WHOM they are dealing with? It seems not! They obviously do not yet

comprehend that Shri Mataji has stated that She has Children outside of the

organisation of Sahaja Yoga, who " will give " Her Message from outside the

organisation, if it is not given from inside the organisation. That is already

happening. Her Last Judgment and Resurrection Message is not given from inside

the organisation, though i do believe this is also starting to happen now, but

it is not being done by WCASY leaders, who repeatedly, like robots, tell the

rank and file SY's that: " Just give self-realisation! " - as if the rank and file

are not capable of doing everything that Shri Mataji said they could, and

should, do. WCASY are into this thing of " allowing " . Well, if Shri Mataji says

SY's can and should do something, then it doesn't matter what the WCASY group

say, that is contrary to what Shri Mataji says! Do they think they know better

than the Devi? It seems so!]

 

 

> So you can see that the Adi Shakti took care of everything to

> ensure that the evidence will be presented. i had to write the book

> to prevent these negative forces within the SY organization from

> destroying Her Advent and Message to humanity. WCASY and NIPC are

> powerless because SHRI ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF GOD is personal,

> not collective intellectual property. Had that not been the case i

> can assure all that WCASY and NIPC would have shut the sites.

 

[Jagbir, that you " had to write the book to prevent these negative forces within

the SY organisation from destroying Her Advent and Message to humanity " is

becoming increasingly evident! You say that WCASY and NIPC are powerless,

because SHRI ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF GOD is personal, not collective

intellectual property! Can you perhaps explain in more detail so forum readers

can understand, how what you have written is " personal " and not " collective

intellectual property " ? Also, i know NIPC have litigated against you, but is it

possible how you came by this knowledge, that " WCASY and NIPC are powerless " to

shut down www.adishakti.org?]

 

 

> Then there is the case of Kash and Lalita's identities. i tried to

> delete them but the Devi, having anticipated that move,

> circumvented it by declaring to Kash that there were five days

> when She appeared to him in Her purest form. i subsequently

> realized that i had to state that truth as Christianity and Islam

> strictly demands that eschatological evidence. The Great News and

> Sure Signs of the Last Judgment and Al-Qiyamah had to be witnessed

> and delivered by these intermediaries between the Divine and

> humans, as has been the case for these strictly monotheistic

> religions.

 

[it is interesting Jagbir that it had not occurred to you previously about the

necessity for the Devi to fulfil the eschatological requirements of Christianity

and Islam. It must be because i have come from the Christian background, that i

realised this necessity right from the start, and which is also the reason why i

had kept in my mind and heart, the sayings of Shri Mataji at Sydney Airport in

1994, about the " special personalities " who would " give evidence " for Her

Incarnation. So there are more than one reason, why this evidence is sorely

needed. Here are some of the reasons:

 

Reasons why Mystical Evidence to Confirm Her Incarnation Was Needed:

 

a./ to confirm Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi is the Incarnation of the Adi Shakti

b./ to make sure Her continuing Message of Christ's Last Judgment and

Resurrection gets out to the world-at-large

c./ to fulfil the eschatological requirements of Christianity & Islam

d./ to give evidence of the Kingdom of God (Sahasrara)

 

Jagbir, if you can edit these points even better, or add to them, it would be

greatly appreciated.]

 

 

> Thus it was absolutely necessary for me to defend against all the

> negative forces trying to destroy Her advent and message. i do not

> know the nature of this negativity that has overwhelmed the SY

> organization since Yogi Mahajan's crusade. It is a very evil and

> powerful force that is trying to fight against the Divine. Many SYs

> have been unwittingly drawn into and used as pawns in this silent

> battle. Most won't believe what i am saying but time will tell.

 

[Jagbir, you have defended against all the negative forces trying to destroy Her

advent and message. As you say, negativity has overwhelmed the SY organization

through Yogi Mahajan's crusade. It is very definitely an " evil force that is

trying to fight against the Divine " - and as you say, " many SYs have been

unwittingly drawn into [it] and [been] used as pawns in this silent battle " ....

These negative forces within the organisation are going to extraordinary lengths

to destroy Her advent and message. We are going to extraordinary lengths to

protect Her advent and message! That is why we do so much explaining, so much

communication. That is why when Shri Mataji spoke about the " special

personalities " at Sydney Airport, that She said: " Don't worry about them for

now; you will hear about them later! " i believe that is beginning to happen

now.]

 

 

> But things will change for the better, if they are not already. i

> have been feeling for a few weeks that people are slowly becoming

> conscious of the Last Judgment and Resurrection. They are becoming

> confident and encouraged by the huge amount of articles and

> evidence presented at www.adishakti.org. We have done well despite

> all the negativity working against us.

 

[Things will definitely change for the better and i believe that is already

happening. i have also been feeling for a few weeks now " that people are slowly

becoming conscious of the Last Judgment and Resurrection " . The resource and

evidence presented at www.adishakti.org is amazing! Yes, we have done well

despite all the negativity working against us!]

 

 

> i assure all that the Devi and Her Divine Message to humanity will

> triumph. Look around the world and you will know why. It is only a

> matter of time.

 

[All that comes from Shri Mataji includes that which has come from within the

organisation [Her teaching] and what has come from outside of the organisation

[Her Mystical Evidence] - which many SYs are just finding out about! What Shri

Mataji has given has never been restricted to the organisers of Sahaja Yoga, but

it has been given to SYs inside and outside of the actual organisation itself!

Sahaja Yogis need to realise this, for how else is Her Message going to get out

there, except to also take it to the world-at-large! Sahaja Yoga is a

spontaneous thing. You can't organise God. Even though there are organisers who

think they can! Let these Words of Shri Mataji set this record straight, once

and for all, that you just cannot " organise God " !:

 

" This Paul was nothing but an organiser, I think, a person who was bureaucratic,

I should say. But he was not only bureaucratic, he was also a man who wanted to

have a big position. So he told a lie, that he went down to Damascus, and on his

way, on his way he saw a big cross. According to Sahaja Yoga, all such signs are

the sign of supraconscious. It’s not of the Spirit. And then he came back and he

started his own research and sort of things like that, and he’s written a lot of

things, but throughout, if you read, you’ll find that he was not a Sahaja Yogi,

he was just an organiser, he was a bureaucratic personality who was writing how

we should administer, how we should have people who are different types of

people, how should we manage them. So he is management department, he was the

management department for the Christians. So the Christians also became

extremely very secretarial type like, you see, everything has a time, you must

come like this, you must sit like this, just talk like this. And also the

nations which are supposed to be Christians are observing all that in a very

official manner. It is not understood why are they so much official. Just the

opposite what Christ did, is to break the Agnya, they built up this. " (Shri

Mataji Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April, 1998)

 

 

" One has to know that you cannot pay for God's love, you cannot pay for it, you

cannot organise it, it is something that God has given you already, that is

within you. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Lecture at University of NSW - Sydney,

Australia - 23 March, 1981)

 

regards to all,

 

violet

 

 

 

, " jagbir

singh " <adishakti_org wrote:

>

> >

> > [Jagbir i have a question]:

> >

> > Is this 'Shri Kalki' that you say Yogi Mahajan approached re your

> > children, the same 'Shri Kalki' that innundates our forum?

> >

>

> Dear Violet and all,

>

> There have been a number of Kalki wannabes in Sahaja Yoga. This

> particular Kalki came to Montreal from Toronto (and is not Ishmael)

> After returning back to Toronto he claimed that Kash was

responsible

> for his 'madness'. So how mad was he?

>

> " One of them had just undergone the trauma of a failed business,

> financial losses, self-abuse and a divorce (and sought refuge in

> meditation.) Within days he believed himself to be `Shri Kalki',

> endowed with 'supreme powers' that would unleash worldwide

> destruction with his laser eyes, and begin Armageddon. He told that

> he had already meditated and 'talked' with Shri Mataji about

> cleansing the world. He then prepared a statement addressed to all

> Sahaja Yogis in North America. In it he declared he was `Shri

Kalki'

> and gave a list of commands for the Sahaja Yogis to follow. He told

> Kash's father to fax copies of this letter to all centers. Being

the

> incarnation of Shri Kalki, he would lead the Armageddon as Lord

Jesus

> was about to appear over New York city any time. According to him

the

> Bible had predicted that only 144,000 were to remain alive. He

> admitted it was a heartless task but he had to perform his duty!...

>

> However, this stranger began to get even stranger. The 'voices' in

> his head began to make him do crazy things — get down on all four

> limbs and bark like a dog, buy hundreds of Lotto 6/49 tickets, hand

> money to passersby, instantly analyze character, probe intentions,

> read minds, and other peculiarities. Nearly every human being he

met

> was having a satanic stench, and he was having an extremely hard

time

> keeping the little sanity he had. Evil was everywhere and he had

> nowhere to run!

>

> A few days later he came with about a dozen assorted secondhand

books

> that the 'voices' had told were for Kash's father. He was taken to

> the basement and told to calm down. That only further agitated him.

> Suddenly he saw a protrusion in the ceiling, vaguely resembling a

> boat's hull, and exclaimed, " This is the ship with the Holy Grail. "

>

> That was the end of the witness state. Kash's father told him to

stop

> hallucinating, and bluntly told him that all his visions were

> figments of his imagination. 'Shri Kalki' got very hurt, started

> crying and stomped away, muttering that no one believed him. He

never

> came back again.

>

> Instead he went into deeper into his own nightmarish world. Just

> before going to India he was plotting to kill a priest

> because 'voices' within were pestering him to do so. He hung around

> the Saint Joseph's Oratory in Montreal, the largest shrine in the

> world dedicated to St. Joseph, to familiarize himself with the

area,

> the movement of priests, and the escape route. A number of times he

> was on the verge of committing this heinous act, but for some

reason

> was unable to carry out the order of the 'voices.' Had he done so

the

> blame would have been clearly on Kash, his father, Sahaja Yoga and

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. The world media would have had a feeding

> frenzy and SHRI ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF GOD never seen the light

> of day.

>

> But for some reason he was just unable to carry out his crazy

scheme.

> Some power of the Great ADI SHAKTI prevented him from lifting even

a

> finger from carrying out his demented desire. "

>

> Shri Adi Shakti: The Kingdom Of God, page 111

>

>

> At that time this Kalki was also in Delhi as he wanted to learn

Indian

> music. Yogi Mahajan approached him to learn more about Kash. And

> Kalki must have insisted that his madness was caused by that evil

> Kash. And Yogi Mahajan began a long campaign to rid the SY

> organization of a most dangerous negativity, and he had no shortage

> of rank and file SYs willing to do his bidding.

>

> For a few years i kept quiet as i was busy writing the book. i

> thought that Shri Mataji's praise and approval of the book would

make

> them realize otherwise.

>

> But i was so wrong. The whole of North American was dead against

the

> book. Yogi Mahajan was especially 'mad' - i was told a few years ago

> that he disagreed with Shri Mataji over Her approval of the book,

> just before being sacked.

>

> The situation has not changed much today in North America. i still

> don't know why and which part of the book they disapprove. They are

> even willing to defy Shri Mataji's repeated approval and praise! i

am

> sure WCASY and NIPC would have legally shut www.adishakti.org down

if

> it was in their power. They just cannot because Shri Mataji's

> permission was sought a few times, and She approved. (i remember

> WCASY member Manoj Kumar trying to shut down www.adishakti.org late

> 1999 by claiming that i did not have WRITTEN PERMISSION to use Shri

> Mataji quotes!)

>

> So you can see that the Adi Shakti took care of everything to

ensure

> that the evidence will be presented. i had to write the book to

> prevent these negative forces within the SY organization from

> destroying Her Advent and Message to humanity. WCASY and NIPC are

> powerless because SHRI ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF GOD is personal,

> not collective intellectual property. Had that not been the case i

> can assure all that WCASY and NIPC would have shut the sites.

>

> Then there is the case of Kash and Lalita's identities. i tried to

> delete them but the Devi, having anticipated that move,

circumvented

> it by declaring to Kash that there were five days when She appeared

> to him in Her purest from. i subsequently realized that i had to

> state that truth as Christianity and Islam strictly demands that

> eschatological evidence. The Great News and Sure Signs of the Last

> Judgment and Al-Qiyamah had to be witnessed and delivered by these

> intermediaries between the Divine and humans, as has been the case

> for these strictly monotheistic religions.

>

> Thus it was absolutely necessary for me to defend against all the

> negative forces trying to destroy Her advent and message. i do not

> know the nature of this negativity that has overwhelmed the SY

> organization since Yogi Mahajan's crusade. It is a very evil and

>; powerful force that is trying to fight against the Divine. Many SYs

> have been unwittingly drawn into and used as pawns in this silent

> battle. Most won't believe what i am saying but time will tell.

>

> But things will change for the better, if they are not already. i

> have been feeling for a few weeks that people are slowly becoming

> conscious of the Last Judgment and Resurrection. They are becoming

> confident and encouraged by the huge amount of articles and

evidence

> presented at www.adishakti.org. We have done well despite all the

> negativity working against us. i assure all that the Devi and Her

> Divine Message to humanity will triumph. Look around the world and

> you will know why. It is only a matter of time.

>

> regards to all,

>

> jagbir

>

>

>

> , " Violet "

> <violet.tubb@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jagbir and All,

> >

> > All that Shri Mataji said and gave needs to circulate through the

> whole Body of Sahaja Yoga. Shri Mataji has given that not all Her

> children are strictly inside the organisation of Sahaja Yoga. Some

of

> Her children are outside of Her organisation - a case in point

being

>; the " ;special personalities " She talked about in 1994, whom She said

> would give evidence to support Her Incarnation from outside of the

> organisation of Sahaja Yoga:

> >

> >

> http://adishakti.org/forum/

shri_mataji_told_of_a_great_blessing_to_man

> kind_10-04-2006.htm

> >

> > Then there is the other occasion at Sydney Airport in the 1990's

> when She said that there would be " ;those who would give Her Message

> from outside the organisation if Her Message were not given from

> inside the organisation " . I and a room full of yogis were present

> when She said this. At that time, i had no idea why these things

were

> said by Her. A decade or so later, i now understand why She said

> these things.

> >

> > i know now that She was informing us, that Her Identity, Mission,

> Message and Evidence to Confirm Her Incarnation - Her Advent, in

> other words, would not be confined within the boundaries of any

> external organisation (that counts membership numbers), but would

be

> part and parcel of a Living Organisation of Sahaja Yoga, which

> includes Sahaja Yogis inside the organisation called Sahaja Yoga,

and

> also includes Sahaja Yogis who would be doing Her Work, outside of

> the organisation called Sahaja Yoga.

> >

> > An organisation usually has restrictions, but a Living

Organisation

> cannot have restrictions like an organisation does. I am talking

> about real spiritual liberty to follow one's Spirit, rather than

> making a cult following out of a particular leader. As a Mother,

Shri

> Mataji never tried to make a cult following out of Herself. She

> always pointed seekers to their individual Mother Within, that She

> said She incarnated, to introduce us too. Her Words as recent as 17

> January, 2008 still point to that Individual Mother Within!:

> >

> > " But on the day of Sankranti we should know that we should

appease

> the Devi residing within us and should know how to please the Devi.

> (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Sakshat Sankranti Puja in Pratishthan -

> 17 January, 2008)

> >

> > Christians call the 'Individual Mother Within' the Holy Spirit.

> Lesser spiritual leaders than our Mother have often failed in true

> spiritual leadership qualities, making Her children follow them,

> resulting in a cult following of a leader. Shri Mataji says though,

> that we must " appease the Devi residing within! After all, She

spent

> so many pujas, so that we can meet that Devi that resides within!

> >

> > Sahaja Yogis cannot just simply and smugly (or snuggly!) settle

> themselves inside the confines of Her organisation and think that

> Shri Mataji also has to confine Herself in the same way! Shri

Mataji

> has embodied us in the Living Organisation of Sahaja Yoga. For

> example, i may have left Her organisation called Sahaja Yoga, but i

> have never left Her Living Organisation of Sahaja Yoga! What is the

> difference? In an organisation you can be taken off a membership

list

> and be ex-communicated from the Sahaja Yoga Newsletter for doing

> nothing wrong, but in the Living Organisation of Sahaja Yoga, there

> is no membership and as long as you please the Devi that resides

> within, you are a part and parcel of that Living Organisation!

> >

> > i hope this comforts Sahaja Yogis who may be feeling that the

> organisation called Sahaja Yoga is not all it was made out to be.

> They may therefore be quite disappointed. They may have

difficulties

> when there are contradictions between what Shri Mataji gave and

what

> is actually happening. i hope these person are heartened, knowing

> that Shri Mataji talked about a " Living Organisation of Sahaja

Yoga "

> where there is truth, honesty, and sincerity. My hope is that with

> the help of the Sahaja Yogis from outside the organisation, the

> Sahaja Yogis inside the organisation will be able to take stock and

> change things so that the organisaton of Sahaja Yoga will become

all

> it has promised Shri Mataji to be! Shri Mataji said that we are all

> past masters who have returned at this special time. A lot of

Sahaja

> Yogis have their Self-realisation connection, but still don't have

> the full confidence to express their Self-Mastery. Sahaja Yogis

from

> without the organisation want to use their unique freedom from

> organisational restrictions, to help Sahaja Yogis gain confidence

in

> their Self-Mastery, and transform the organisation from within, so

> that it will be what Shri Mataji dearly wanted it to be. And

besides

> we need just such an earthly organisation to help spiritually

>;;; emancipate humanity-at-large!

> >

> > If you remember i wrote about how Christian ministers call their

> whole congregation 'Christians', though not everyone who is called

a

> Christian is necessarily a sincere, honest follower of Christ.

> Likewise, Shri Mataji addresses all attendees as 'Sahaja Yogis' but

> that does not mean they are all sincere, honest Sahaja Yogis. It

> depends upon what is in the person's heart. Just being recorded on

an

> organisation's membership list does not make them a Sahaja Yogi.

The

> true recording as to whether a Sahaja Yogi is a sincere, honest,

> truthful yogi or not, is recorded by their own Kundalini that has

> been awakened. Just because someone attends the organisation of

> Sahaja Yoga does not therefore guarantee that they are sincere,

> honest, and truthful yogis. They may only be 'skin-deep' Sahaja

> Yogis, in other words, not " deep " yogis, just like there are

shallow

> and deep Christians, who attend the Christian religion.

> >

> > i am hoping that a bridge will be created to close the gap

between

> Sahaja Yogis inside the organisation of Sahaja Yoga, and Sahaja

Yogis

> who are working for Shri Mataji as She predicted, from outside of

the

> organisation. If the Living Organisation of Sahaja Yoga can work

>; together, and ignore the spike in the system that was initially

> forged by Yogi Mahajan then i do believe that Her Message would

more

> speedily go out from Montreal, Canada as She predicted. Here is

> Jagbir's description of that " spike in the system " :

> >

> > " But today i can truly see the breadth and scope of the subtle,

>; silent conspiracy against Shri Mataji, initiated by ex-world leader

> Yogi Mahajan in the mid-1990s, against those giving evidence of Her

> incarnation. i quote:

> >

> > " He Is A Child Of Darkness

> >;

> > The sad saga continued as the latent negativity crossed the seas

to

> continued its destructive path.

> >

> > At this time Kash and his brother Shahwinder were enrolled at the

> International Sahaja Public School in Dharamsala, India. When Kash

> and Shahwinder reached New Delhi, India, they were in for a shock.

> The school authorities told them to go back because they could not

> find their names in the registration book, and that they did not

> realize they were educated in French (even though they were fluent

in

> English)! Those in charge insisted that Kash and his brother must

> return home, as if they had just taken a three-wheeler from nearby

> Janak Puri and rudely requested registration. Even the Canadian

> leader Jay Chudasama and SY Steve Gulati were unable to remove this

> petty problem. The school authorities were determined to send them

> back and demanded they return home!

> >

> > Their father had to make frantic calls to Delhi and Poona and

> begged that they be allowed to stay. He was so relieved when they

> were given a one-month extension.

> >

> > Then, a few days later, realizing that they could not possibly

> switch from French to English, study new subjects and pass the

> required exam within a month, the Truth had to be told to secure

> their stay for a few years. He sent fifty pages of Shri Adi Shakti:

> Kingdom Of God as evidence to one of the SY world leader, Yogi

> Mahajan, and Mrs. Chitnavis (the principal) explaining that

something

> phenomenal had happened: a young SY child had confirmed that the

> Golden Goddess does reside in the Sahasrara.

> >

> > At this time 'Shri Kalki' was also in India, and approached by SY

> Mahajan. Kash was the topic of discussion. 'Shri Kalki', who was

sure

> that Kash was possessed by the same demons that tormented him,

> probably did not have much kind words. Evil spirits had possessed

> this 'child of darkness' and given him the visionary powers. This

> child was dangerous to Sahaja Yoga and had to be dealt with

quickly.

> The fact that he was now inside the compound of the Adi Shakti's

> school, mingling with the children of realized souls, only made

> matters worse. [bREAK QUOTE]

> >

> > [Jagbir i have a question]:

> >

> > Is this 'Shri Kalki' that you say Yogi Mahajan approached re your

> children, the same 'Shri Kalki' that innundates our forum? If that

is

> the case, it is unbelievable that they still support this crazy

'Shri

> Kalki's' advice to YM, instead of accepting the Evidence that Shri

> Mataji said would confirm Her Incarnation! The evidence to confirm

> Her Incarnation, is obviously the Jewel in the Crown, otherwise the

> Adi Shakti's Adversary would not be working so hard to demonize

that

> evidence, which means that Sahaja Yogis really have to wake up and

> see what is happening right in front of their noses!

> >

> >

> > [RESUME QUOTE]:

> >

> > The father humbly asked that Kash be given protection, guidance

and

> sanctuary until Her book was published, as the school atmosphere in

> Montreal was harsh and against spiritual development.

> >

> > But SY Mahajan vaguely explained to him over the phone what he

> thought about the whole episode, as reflected in his opinion in The

> Ascent, and believed by most Sahaja Yogis. Kash was dabbling in

> darkness and deserved no special attention or protection — or even

be

> exorcised of the 'demons' that 'possessed' him.

> >

> > Kash's father was not convinced by SY Mahajan's brief evasive

> explanation as it contradicted his (Mahajan's) own conviction

> that " Only those who go deep in the source discover the Golden

> Goddess that resides within. Her touch enlightens and enthralls the

> total being. It is indeed the miracle of miracles. This miracle

> resides in every being. The wise pursue it, the scriptures speak of

> it, and the saints glory in its praise. " (Yogi Mahajan, The Ascent,

> Motilal Banarsidass Publishers, Delhi, 1997 p. 4.)

> >

> > Then he (Yogi Mahajan) was told that his (Kash) younger 5-year-

old

> brother, Arwinder, was also experiencing and confirming the same

> Reality. Yogi Mahajan offered no explanation. On the contrary, he

> rejected one of the greatest spiritual enlightenment in the history

> of humankind as the work of evil spirits and refused to listen to

any

> further explanation!

> >

> > Their stunned father could hardly believe the utter disregard and

> spiritual arrogance displayed by those empowered to make decisions.

> Fifty pages of proof was treated as trash! Desperate pleas for help

> found no compassion! [bREAK QUOTE]

> >

> >

> > [Dear Sahaja Yogis who are in the organisation of Sahaja Yoga

> especially - this is why you need to have compassion for Jagbir and

> his children, and realise that any criticisms from Jagbir about the

> organisation of Sahaja Yoga are directly related to the wrong

> direction that Sahaja Yoga took, when Yogi Mahajan approached this

> false 'Shri Kalki' for his advice re the children, whom Shri Mataji

> said in 1994, would give Evidence to Confirm Her Incarnation - and

> ran with that. In fact, Shri Mataji has since revealed that

> these " special personalities " are special because they are angels

who

> have incarnated as human beings and Shri Mataji has also revealed,

> that it is unprecedented, that two angels have ever incarnated into

> one household! We have seen this 'Shri Kalki' on this forum, and he

> is an absolutely crazy fellow. It is the case of a crazy fellow

> calling the " angels " of Shri Mataji as " possessed of evil " ! There

is

> your spiritual fight between the forces of Light and darkness,

right

> within Her own organisation of Sahaja Yoga! But the forces of Light

> will win in the end. The question is, will Sahaja Yogis be found to

> be on the Light's side (supporting Her angels) or will they be

found

> to be on the dark's side (supporting the dark one's schemes) and

> therefore continuing to demonize the very angels that have given

the

> Evidence to Confirm Her Incarnation?!]

> >

> >

> > [RESUME QUOTE]:

> >

> > Two stranded sons of the Great MahaDevi soon found that there was

> no shelter from the fast approaching storm! " ;

> >

> > Shri Adi Shakti: Kingdom Of God, pg. 114

> >

> > Yogi Mahajan succeeded in his plot to demonize and lay false

> charges against the children in order to expel them against Shri

> Mataji's wishes. Then he set about influencing leaders and those

able

> to inflict maximum damage. Since he was the undisputed power broker

> in Sahaja Yoga his false accusations and ignorance were most

welcome

> and willingly spread since most SYs too believed likewise.

> >

> > Despite Shri Mataji expelling him a few years ago WCASY members

> like Alan Wherry, Viktor Bondar and others have continued where

Yogi

> Mahajan left. And they have henchmen like John Noyce and Ed

Saugstad

> to poison and turn SYs against the websites and forum of those

giving

> evidence of Her incarnation. The ghost of Yogi Mahajan still walks

> the corridors of Sahaja Yoga till today and continues to frighten

> SYs. Let me remind them that the Truth of Her incarnation will

> outlast each and every one of them. There is no way WCASY and SYSSR

> will survive, as it is coming clear in Vancouver, Montreal,

Toronto,

> New York, London, Hamburg and other SY centers.

> >

> > the camel will die from the thirst of the Truth being declared,

> >

> > jagbir

> >

> >

> http://adishakti.org/forum/

in_june_1994_pramilas_son_SY_harsh_mehra_to

> ok_these_faxes_to_london_UK_12-22-2006.htm

> >

> >

> > [sahaja Yogis might feel that Jagbir is being harsh when he says

> that:

> >

> > " There is no way WCASY and SYSSR will survive, as it is coming

> clear in Vancouver, Montreal, Toronto, New York, London, Hamburg

and

> other SY centers. "

> >

> > i remember that Shri Mataji said that Her Message will go out

from

> Canada to the rest of the world! i feel this can only successfully

> happen when there is a Living Organisation of Sahaja Yoga. This

means

> that there needs to be a Unity among all Sahaja Yogis - those from

> within the organisation of Sahaja Yoga, and those doing Her Work

from

> outside the organisation as She said may happen, and which has

> happened! To achieve that, everyone needs to try to come to an

> understanding so that they can work together. It is not

unforeseeable

> that we can all work together. That is what a Living Organization

of

> Sahaja Yoga is capable of. i know it! Please believe it too!

> >

> > In conclusion, i give my Sahaj Love to all my brothers and

sisters,

> wherever you may be. May we truly be united, against all odds,

> against all negative forces that work against that Unity! Appended

is

> an important Message given by our Ever-Loving Divine Mother, given

on

> 17 January, 2008. Enjoy!

> >

> > love from violet

> >

> >

> > Sakshat Sankranti Puja in Pratishthan

> >

> > Shri Mataji expressed the desire to have a Puja today and in a

> short time preparations were done and a few Sahaja yogis and Sahaja

> yoginis were invited for the same. After the customary Puja

ceremony

> ended with the Aarti all present were pleasantly surprised when Sir

> C.P. asked Shri Mataji if She wished to speak.

> >

> > Shri Mataji spoke on the microphone and announced that today is

> Sankranti. She said that Sankranti meant the happening of something

> new. That with the awakening of the Kundalini within us we have

> become new.

> >

> > But on the day of Sankranti we should know that we should appease

> the Devi residing within us and should know how to please the Devi.

> Referring to the customary ritual of Makar Sankranti when we give

Til

> & Gud sweets (sweets made of Jaggery and sesame seeds) to others

She

> said that this is for spreading love amongst ourselves.

> >

> > She said we should thank the Sun a lot. Because of the Sun's

grace

> so many things happen.

> >

> > Today everyone should Namaskar the Sun. The Sun's energy,

knowledge

> & light should come within us.

> >

> > Mother further said that we are all awakened. We have chaitanya

> flowing within us. Now we should use this Chaitanaya.

> >

> > Bring energy within yourself and bring peace within yourself and

> tell the world that within us only is this energy and that we

should

> get it. From your qualities and from your truthfulness you should

> increase this and grow this.

> >

> > Today's occasion is special because of the Sun's special grace on

> us. For this there should be thankfulness. You have got a lot and

you

> should be getting more and will be getting more. This should be

> increased.

> >

> > Shri Mataji said that we have done a lot of Puja to Her and She

> wondered that by doing such Puja what we desired of Her.

> >

> > She said that She desired that we become good Sahaja yogis and

show

> the right path to thousands of people and teach them goodness and

for

> ourselves She said that we should experience the energy that is

> flowing within us.

> >

> > Shri Mother said that She was very joyful on seeing all of us and

> smilingly asked whether now She may go and then laughed and so did

> the Sahaja yogis and Sahaja Yoginis present there. Everyone stood

up

> and clapped. Shri Mataji asked for the prasad to be given to

everyone

> and then departed from the Hall.

> >

> > (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Sakshat Sankranti Puja in Pratishthan

-

> 17 January, 2008)

> >

> >

> >

> > , " jagbir

> > singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Violet and all,

> > >

> > > i will definitely do so as and when suitable. All of us are

going

> > to

> > > benefit, and that includes myself. Future seekers will greatly

> > > advance spiritually in a much shorter time with all the wealth

of

> > > mystical knowledge based on genuine experiences that helps

> > understand

> > > the esoteric secrets/parables/facts of the scriptures.

> > >

> > > regards to all,

> > >

> > > jagbir

> > >

> > > , " Violet "

> > > <violet.tubb@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Jagbir,

> > > >

> > > > The way you have related Sri Nisargadatta's quotes in " I AM

> > THAT "

> > > and the mystical knowledge given by Shri Mataji through your

> > > children - in your own words and with your comments included, is

> > very

> > > helpful for the understanding of this mystical knowledge. i feel

> > it

> > > would be spiritually beneficial if you could do more of these,

> > which

> > > might help to dispel in SY minds and hearts, Yogi Mahajan et

al's

> > > maya that the mystical knowledge Shri Mataji gave through the

> > special

> > > personalities from Montreal, Canada, is possessed of evil.

> > > >

> > > > warmest regards,

> > > >

> > > > violet

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " jagbir

> > > > singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear all,

> > > > >

> > > > >; The postman just delivered the book " I AM THAT " by Sri

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > Maharaj. Tuesday is indeed an auspicious day to receive

> > spiritual

> > > > > gifts.

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