How come WCASY's Will is the complete opposite despite Sir C.P.'s claim?

February 2, 2008

Dear Violet and all,

>

> Anyone who says they are the Will of the Holy Spirit to you, is

> dishonest, adulterates the truth, lies, and is not pleasing the

> Devi that resides within them! ...

>

> WCASY as a group of SY's over the rank and file SY's have proved to

> be a group that is very lacking in spiritual integrity, which is

> why it is depressing for honest Sahaja Yogis to be under their

> organisational control. That's why some honest SY's have had no

> choice but to leave and work from outside Her Organisation, in

> order to give Her Identity, Mission, Message, and Evidence that

> will confirm Her Incarnation to the world-at-large. What i am

> saying does not mean i do not have Sahaj Love for the SYs who are

> members of WCASY. It's just that i expect each one of them to be

> honest and to prevent others from being dishonest also!

>

Sunday, June 18, 2006

Sir CP:

" The final authority is the World Council. Everything else emanates

from the World Council. Whatever decision is to be taken, the World

Council takes, because that is Her will. The Council represents Her

will. Alright? So there should be no confusion in future. That has

been decided. Thereafter, what happens where is a matter for the

World Council to decide. We have now to move forward, carry forward

the message and act on that basis. "

Never in history has any human dared claim to represent the will of

any prophet or incarnation. Sir C.P. has done just that by officially

bestowing the Will of Shri Mataji onto all WCASY members. For the

first time ever human ingenuity have dared claim the unspeakable.

That WCASY members actually feel honored by this insanity will

forever compel seekers to flee from the organization. Imagine

Christians finding out that SYs believe that WCASY members represent

the Will of the Holy Spirit? Or how about Muslims realizing that

WCASY is the Will of His Ruh? Or Sikhs required to follow WCASY

directives since those 31 members represent the Aykaa Mayee's Will?

And will any sane Hindu ever set foot in any SY collective if he or

she finds out that the Devi's Will is now in WCASY's possession?

And Violet, you wrote:

" WCASY as a group of SY's over the rank and file SY's have proved to

be a group that is very lacking in spiritual integrity, which is why

it is depressing for honest Sahaja Yogis to be under their

organisational control. " Excellent point Violet!

Shri Mataji's Will for more than three decades has been to be

truthful and upfront in public about a number of scriptural and

religious issues, the most important being that of the Last Judgment

and Resurrection. How come WCASY's Will is the complete opposite

despite Sir C.P.'s claim? Why are WCASY members still unable to

transplant Shri Mataji's Will into their own despite having it since

June 18, 2006? Why do most SYs find it easier to follow the dishonest

Will of WCASY instead of the fearless Will of Shri Mataji's?

WCASY will never recover from this unspeakable crime against the Devi.

They all greedily pounced on the poisoned pawn without any hesitation

or contemplation. And any good player knows that that is a fatal error

in an end-game. It will take time for such an unfathomable, egoistical

greed to sink into the hearts and minds of SYs.

soon it will be checkmate time folks,

jagbir

, " Violet "

<violet.tubb wrote:

>

> Dear Jagbir and All,

>

> Shri Mataji is (and has been) speaking again after 5 years of self-

imposed Silence. WCASY members made themselves 'the Adi Shakti's Will

to Sahaja Yogis' during those silent years. Not only have they done

that, but i think they might have done some things that they would

not have done, had they known She would again assume Her Will and

Desire in the organisation of Sahaja Yoga.

>

> Most Sahaja Yogis commenced surrendering their wills to the 'De-

facto Will of the Adi Shakti' (namely WCASY) - thus leaving their

self-mastery and spiritual integrity behind. Others found themselves

outside the organisation of Sahaja Yoga, working to bring to the

public awareness Her Identity, Mission, Message and the Evidence that

Shri Mataji gave to Confirm Her Incarnation - which WCASY through

their dishonesty refused to openly give to the world-at-large, in

spite of Shri Mataji repeatedly telling them to do so.

>

> The reins had been given to WCASY to steer the Sahaj Organisational

Ship in the right direction and to do the best they were capable of.

No accolades of " Well done thou good and faithful servant! " appear to

have been forthcoming from their efforts though. Instead, Shri Mataji

brings up issues of dishonesty, adulteration, lying and lack of

appeasing the Devi that resides within:

>

> a./ Dishonesty

>

> " So the first thing you have to do is never be a dishonest person

nor let others become [dishonest] or be dishonest. This is very

important and all of you should together make it possible. " (Shri

Mataji Nirmala Devi - Diwali Puja Talk - 2007)

>

> b./ Adulteration:

>

> " The milk is adulterated, ghee is adulterated. Where ever I see

everything is adulterated. All the people laugh at us, nobody

believes us. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Diwali Puja Talk - 2007)

>

> c./ Lying:

>

> " And second point is you don't have to tell any lies. What is the

need to tell any lies? You tell the truth! The person who will always

tell the truth, he will be a special [person] and if he is a Sahaja

Yogi then he will be magnificent. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Diwali

Puja Talk - 2007)

>

> d./ resultant lack of appeasing/pleasing the Devi that resides

within:

>

> " But on the day of Sankranti we should know that we should appease

the Devi residing within us and should know how to please the Devi. "

(Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Sakshat Sankranti Puja in Pratishthan -

17 January, 2008)

>

> The basic issue is about honesty. If there is honesty, then there

won't be dishonesty, adulteration, lying, or lack of pleasing the

Devi that resides within. Here is what Shri Mataji says about honesty:

>

> " So the first thing you have to do is never be a dishonest person

nor let others become or be dishonest. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi -

Diwali Puja Talk - 2007)

>

> So what does Shri Mataji say about honesty? She says that firstly a

person must be honest to begin with and then they must prevent others

from being dishonest or becoming dishonest. WCASY have been trying

their utmost to shut down this honest website and associated forum

for a while now. WCASY have foresworn many Sahaja Yogis off of

http://www.adishakti.org/ saying that Jagbir is being unduly

critical. Jagbir has repeatedly stated that he is only trying to

prevent Sahaja Yogis from being dishonest or from becoming dishonest.

i hope Sahaja Yogis will finally realise the utmost importance of

being honest, and not allowing others to be dishonest or become

dishonest. For the collective edification of Sahaja Yogis, here are

Her Words again:

>

> " So the first thing you have to do is never be a dishonest person

nor let others become or be dishonest. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi -

Diwali Puja Talk - 2007)

>

> Honesty from WCASY demands that they do away with the demonization

of the children who have given Evidence to Confirm Shri Mataji's

Incarnation. Will they be up to that? It is up to them, if they will

be up to that. But before they deal with the issues of dishonesty,

adulteration and lying, they will not be able to appease or please

the Devi that resides within!

>

> i have read what you have written in answer to my question, Jagbir,

and this is why i am sure that when Shri Mataji spoke about

the " Living Organisation of Sahaja Yoga " that She did not mean the

trappings of an external organisation of Sahaja Yoga that can cut

someone off from the Sahaja Yoga Newsletters for the heinous

spiritual crime of upholding the special personalities that She said

would give Evidence to Confirm Her Incarnation - in other words, for

doing nothing wrong (as happened to this writer!) The trappings of

this dead organisation (meaning the opposite of the " Living

Organisation of Sahaja Yoga " ) still has the ghost of Yogi Mahajan in

it, because others have taken on Yogi Mahajan's Anti-Mystical

Evidence stance, thereby trying to deny Shri Mataji the evidence

needed to Confirm Her Incarnation!

>

> One could go further and say it has become a 'cultish factor', i.e.

a Cult Following of Yogi Mahajan by the leaders themselves, which

they have filtered through to rank and file SY's like, within the

organisation called Sahaja Yoga. The " Living Organisation of Sahaja

Yoga " cannot of its own nature, accept anything that goes against

Shri Mataji's Identity, Mission, Message and Evidence that Confirms

Her Incarnation - can it?! That to me, is the difference between

the " Living " and the " dead " Organisation.

>

> So you say Jagbir that Yogi Mahajan approached this mad Kalki

fellow for advice regarding Kash's mystical evidence - evidence that

has confirmed Shri Mataji's Incarnation. But surely YM being the

right-hand-man of Shri Mataji in the organisation, must first have

consulted Her?! Did he disagree with Her at that early stage too, and

rather seek out the opinion of this mad Kalki fellow instead?!

Because if he could disagree with what Shri Mataji said in approval

of your book, Shri Adi Shakti: Kingdom of God, just prior to getting

sacked from Her organisation - he must have disapproved of Shri

Mataji's approval right from the beginning! Then he set out to

demonize the children, and WCASY have followed in his footsteps.

Honesty demands that WCASY stop demonizing your children unofficially

and in private emails, and openly declare their non-approval of the

Evidence Shri Mataji gave to Confirm Her Incarnation. Why don't they

do it Jagbir? Why aren't they honest, and openly in a letter to you

and to all of us, declare that you are not a Sahaja Yogi and like

Yogi Mahajan believed, they too believe that your children are demon-

possessed? You have asked them for a letter to clarify one way or

another, haven't you?

>

> What was it with this Yogi Mahajan character anyway? What made him

think he knew better than Shri Mataji Herself? Was following in YM's

footsteps why WCASY members also usurped Her Will in the hearts and

minds of Sahaja Yogis during Her 5 years of self-imposed Divine

Silence? This is such a spiritually dishonest thing that has happened

in the organisation called Sahaja Yoga, that it goes beyond spiritual

comprehension - because the Adi Shakti/Holy Spirit's Will can only

ever manifest from within each Sahaja Yogi! It never manifests from

without the person!

>

> Anyone who says they are the Will of the Holy Spirit to you, is

dishonest, adulterates the truth, lies, and is not pleasing the Devi

that resides within them! It is therefore not surprising that there

is a notable lack of: " Well done thou good and faithful servant! "

from Shri Mataji to WCASY members - upon Her return from self-imposed

Silence. And what did Shri Mataji learn? She learned what WCASY will

do, when left to their own devices - a 'test run' you could say, for

when She has Her Mahasammadhi. She now knows what would have

happened, had She had Her Mahasammadhi, and She is setting the record

straight, in the minds and hearts of rank and file SY's who are under

WCASY - that they have to appease and please " who " ? They have to

appease and please the Devi that resides within!!!

>

> WCASY as a group of SY's over the rank and file SY's have proved to

be a group that is very lacking in spiritual integrity, which is why

it is depressing for honest Sahaja Yogis to be under their

organisational control. That's why some honest SY's have had no

choice but to leave and work from outside Her Organisation, in order

to give Her Identity, Mission, Message, and Evidence that will

confirm Her Incarnation to the world-at-large. What i am saying does

not mean i do not have Sahaj Love for the SYs who are members of

WCASY. It's just that i expect each one of them to be honest and to

prevent others from being dishonest also!

>

> i would like to respond to your answer, Jagbir:

>

> > Dear Violet and all,

> >

> > There have been a number of Kalki wannabes in Sahaja Yoga. This

> > particular Kalki came to Montreal from Toronto (and is not

Ishmael)

> > After returning back to Toronto he claimed that Kash was

> > responsible for his 'madness'. So how mad was he?

>

> [i see. So there were a few Kalki wannabes! Every person is

responsible for their own self. But this 'Kalki wannabe' blamed a

child for his madness! Like you say, it just goes to show how

completely irresponsible and made he actually was to blame an

innocent child for his own madness!]

>

> > " One of them had just undergone the trauma of a failed business,

> > financial losses, self-abuse and a divorce (and sought refuge in

> > meditation.) Within days he believed himself to be `Shri Kalki',

> > endowed with 'supreme powers' that would unleash worldwide

> > destruction with his laser eyes, and begin Armageddon. He told

that

> > he had already meditated and 'talked' with Shri Mataji about

> > cleansing the world. He then prepared a statement addressed to all

> > Sahaja Yogis in North America. In it he declared he was Shri Kalki

> > and gave a list of commands for the Sahaja Yogis to follow. He

> > told Kash's father to fax copies of this letter to all centers.

> > Being the incarnation of Shri Kalki, he would lead the Armageddon

> > as Lord Jesus was about to appear over New York city any time.

> > According to him the Bible had predicted that only 144,000 were

> > to remain alive. He admitted it was a heartless task but he had to

> > perform his duty! " ...

>

> [He is definitely a crackpot! This reminds me of David Koresh and

the control he exercised over his followers! i can see that it is the

same type of mad, controlling personality, that Yogi Mahajan sought

advice from!]

>

> > However, this stranger began to get even stranger. The 'voices' in

> > his head began to make him do crazy things — get down on all four

> > limbs and bark like a dog, buy hundreds of Lotto 6/49 tickets,

hand

> > money to passersby, instantly analyze character, probe intentions,

> > read minds, and other peculiarities. Nearly every human being he

> > met was having a satanic stench, and he was having an extremely

> > hard time keeping the little sanity he had. Evil was everywhere

and

> > he had nowhere to run!

>

> [i remember Shri Mataji telling us about such a crazy person and

yet YM sought his advice instead of following Shri Mataji's advice,

which was " most spiritually undiscerning " of Yogi Mahajan! People do

have a natural spiritual faculty of discerning what a person might be

thinking, or what his character might be - but to do such as

this 'mad Kalki' was doing, with his on-the-spot character analysis,

reading people's minds, and so forth, given from the voices inside

his head, is a clear case of possession. There is nowhere for such a

person to run and hide; they are tormented souls.]

>

> > A few days later he came with about a dozen assorted secondhand

> > books that the 'voices' had told were for Kash's father. He was

> > taken to the basement and told to calm down. That only further

> > agitated him. Suddenly he saw a protrusion in the ceiling, vaguely

> > resembling a boat's hull, and exclaimed, " This is the ship with

the

> > Holy Grail. " That was the end of the witness state. Kash's father

> > told him to stop hallucinating, and bluntly told him that all his

> > visions were figments of his imagination. 'Shri Kalki' got very

> > hurt, started crying and stomped away, muttering that no one

> > believed him. He never came back again.

>

> [it is unbelievable what you have had to endure, Jagbir. He was

very definitely hallucinating and having a childish temper tantrum to

boot, when you would not accept his hallucinations as genuine

mystical experiences. He was certainly not in control of his own

faculties and behaviour. His mental and emotional condition were very

poorly.]

>

> > Instead he went into deeper into his own nightmarish world. Just

> > before going to India he was plotting to kill a priest because

> > 'voices' within were pestering him to do so. He hung around the

> > Saint Joseph's Oratory in Montreal, the largest shrine in the

world

> > dedicated to St. Joseph, to familiarize himself with the area, the

> > movement of priests, and the escape route. A number of times he

was > on the verge of committing this heinous act, but for some

reason was

> > unable to carry out the order of the 'voices.' Had he done so the

> > blame would have been clearly on Kash, his father, Sahaja Yoga and

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. The world media would have had a feeding

> > frenzy and SHRI ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF GOD never seen the

light

> > of day.

>

> > But for some reason he was just unable to carry out his crazy

> > scheme. Some power of the Great ADI SHAKTI prevented him from

> > lifting even a finger from carrying out his demented desire. "

> >

> > Shri Adi Shakti: The Kingdom Of God, page 111

>

> [Jagbir, i have asked my husband Peter (R.N.) whether, when a

person " hears many voices in the head " , are they then diagnosed as

schizophrenic? He said that if a person is " hearing voices in the

head " then they are diagnosed as schizophrenic. There is no doubt in

my mind therefore, that given the " voices in the head " urging this

Kalki character to commit a murder, his hallucinations, his blaming

Kash for his own mental state, and his crying and temper tantrums,

just because you, Jagbir, would not do as he wanted you to do - that

it clearly points to schizophrenic behaviour. That YM approached such

a mentally unstable character, makes me inclined to believe that he

deliberately sought a negative opinion from the 'mad Kalki' to run

with, rather than the positive mention by Shri Mataji of yourself and

your children - especially when you also say (further down) that:

>

> " Yogi Mahajan was especially 'mad' - i was told a few years ago

that he disagreed with Shri Mataji over Her approval of the book,

just before being sacked. "

>

> So have WCASY members in a sense gone 'spiritually mad' too,

because like Yogi Mahajan they have chosen to follow the negative

opinion of the mentally unstable Kalki? In this area at least, they

seem now to be following their leader, Yogi Mahajan's opinion rather

than their true leader, Shri Mataji's repeated positive mention of

Jagbir's book, which is based on the mystical experiences She has

given, to confirm Her Incarnation. And Sahaja Yogis are following

WCASY who are following Yogi Mahajan who followed 'mad Kalki's'

opinion! Unless rank and file Sahaja Yogis become informed on this

matter, through the website of http://www.adishakti.org/ alone (for

WCASY have deliberately wiped this mystical knowledge from all SY

eyes and ears!) - they will not be able to form their own positive

opinion, i.e. they won't even be able to make up their own minds, on

the evidence Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi gave through the " special

children " that i and a roomful of yogis heard Her talk about at

Sydney Airport, in 1994! But WCASY may fear and tremble, because Shri

Mataji also prophesied that " you will hear about them later " . If Shri

Mataji says it, it will come true! The Sahaja Yogis will hear about

the children, despite all the hard work WCASY have done, to prevent

Sahaja Yogis from hearing about them! Just wait and see Her prophecy

She gave at Sydney Airport come true! WCASY will be found out in

their deceit, that terrible thing they have done, to follow a mad

Kalki, a false leader (YM) instead of following their Ever Loving

Mother, Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, who introduced them to their

Individual Mother Within - but they have rather followed a lie! This

is why Shri Mataji has recently had to say to them all:

>

> " But on the day of Sankranti we should know that we should appease

the Devi residing within us and should know how to please the Devi. "

(Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Sakshat Sankranti Puja in Pratishthan -

17 January, 2008)

>

> If they want to please the Devi residing within, they cannot

discount the evidence She gave, to confirm Her Incarnation. Period!!!

>

> In this process of demonization, the WCASY leadership have called

Jagbir a " non-SY " just to effectively " label " him that way, so that

if any Sahaja Yogis do hear about him or the children (despite their

absolute Sahaj Media Control!) - the SY's who will hear about them

will hopefully (according to them) discount Jagbir and his children's

mystical experiences straight away, without first using their own

critical faculties of spiritual discernment! They tried to discount

Jagbir to me, calling him a " non-SY " . i did not fall for their

untruth; their deceit. i told them that " Jagbir is a Sahaja Yogi! How

is he not a SY? They could not answer me! They had no valid answer!

If that is how they want to be truthful, that is their choice, in the

bed they have to lie in! i do not want to lie in such an untruthful

bed of deceit! i would rather always follow Shri Mataji's quite

recent advice of:

>

> " So the first thing you have to do is never be a dishonest person

nor let others become [dishonest] or be dishonest. This is very

important and all of you should together make it possible. " (Shri

Mataji Nirmala Devi - Diwali Puja Talk - 2007)

>

> What Shri Mataji said here, should be music to the ears of Sahaja

Yogis, for it gives permission to hold WCASY (SY leadership)

accountable to the Truth! If SY's don't do that, then i fear for the

organisation of Sahaja Yoga, being an honest, truthful organisation,

with regard to what Shri Mataji has given! Positions of leadership

are not there - at the expense of truth! Positions of leadership in

the organisation of Sahaja Yoga, are not there for private ambitions

of power, money, prestige or fame. Are SY's and Sahaj Leaders willing

to sacrifice these on the altar of Truth for Her Identity, Mission,

Message, and the Evidence She has given to Confirm Her Incarnation?

In the end, that is all that will matter - i.e. " to please the Devi

that resides within! " ]

>

> > At that time this Kalki was also in Delhi as he wanted to learn

> > Indian music. Yogi Mahajan approached him to learn more about

> > Kash. And Kalki must have insisted that his madness was caused

> > by that evil Kash. And Yogi Mahajan began a long campaign to rid

> > the SY organization of a most dangerous negativity, and he had no

> > shortage of rank and file SYs willing to do his bidding.

>

> [so this is where it started! Yogi Mahajan, the famed world leader

that many Sahaja Yogis kow-towed to - approached the 'David Koresh'

type character; this 'mad Kalki' - and WCASY is still following the

advice of this 'mad Kalki' today and continuing to demonize the

children, who have given the Evidence to Confirm Shri Mataji Nirmala

Devi's Incarnation. Rank and file Sahaja Yogis really have to wake up

to this demonic infestation in the organisation of Sahaja Yoga and

demand that WCASY finally be truthful about this whole 'spiritually

sordid' mess!]

>

> > For a few years i kept quiet as i was busy writing the book. i

> > thought that Shri Mataji's praise and approval of the book would

> > make them realize otherwise.

>

> [As one would do! One would think that when Shri Mataji praised and

approved a book, that Sahaja Yogis would do likewise! How can it go

the opposite way? i just don't understand it!]

>

> > But i was so wrong. The whole of North American was dead against

> > the book. Yogi Mahajan was especially 'mad' - i was told a few

years

> > ago that he disagreed with Shri Mataji over Her approval of the

> > book, just before being sacked.

>

> [so North American Sahaja Yogis followed Yogi Mahajan's advice,

rather than following Shri Mataji's advice! The question therefore

begs to be asked: " Were the rank and file yogis of North America even

told by the leaders, that Shri Mataji had praised and approved the

book? " Or did the leaders just tell the rank and file SY's Yogi

Mahajan's version - which if they did, would point to the beginnings

of a cult following of Yogi Mahajan!]

>

> > The situation has not changed much today in North America. i still

> > don't know why and which part of the book they disapprove. They

are

> > even willing to defy Shri Mataji's repeated approval and praise!

>

> [i believe the situation is slowly but surely starting to change in

North America. i have evidence of yogi/s starting to ask questions of

past and/or present Sahaj Leaders, which they have a right to ask. i

believe that honest yogis are beginning to do what Shri Mataji asked

that " together we do " , i.e. to be honest to begin with, and then keep

others honest, and not let others fall into dishonesty:

>

> " So the first thing you have to do is never be a dishonest person

nor let others become [dishonest] or be dishonest. This is very

important and all of you should together make it possible. " (Shri

Mataji Nirmala Devi - Diwali Puja Talk - 2007)]

>

> > i am sure WCASY and NIPC would have legally shut www.adishakti.org

> > down if it was in their power. They just cannot because Shri

> > Mataji's permission was sought a few times, and She approved. (i

> > remember WCASY member Manoj Kumar trying to shut down

> > www.adishakti.org late 1999 claiming that i did not have WRITTEN

> > PERMISSION to use Shri Mataji quotes!)

>

> [They are just so power-mad that it is unbelievable. Do they think

that the Adi Shakti is so naive as to allow everything in the hands

of the past 'scribes and Pharisees' whom She says have incarnated at

this time, and come into the organisation of Sahaja Yoga? Do they

really believe She is " that naive " ? Do they not realise WHOM they are

dealing with? It seems not! They obviously do not yet comprehend that

Shri Mataji has stated that She has Children outside of the

organisation of Sahaja Yoga, who " will give " Her Message from outside

the organisation, if it is not given from inside the organisation.

That is already happening. Her Last Judgment and Resurrection Message

is not given from inside the organisation, though i do believe this

is also starting to happen now, but it is not being done by WCASY

leaders, who repeatedly, like robots, tell the rank and file SY's

that: " Just give self-realisation! " - as if the rank and file are not

capable of doing everything that Shri Mataji said they could, and

should, do. WCASY are into this thing of " allowing " . Well, if Shri

Mataji says SY's can and should do something, then it doesn't matter

what the WCASY group say, that is contrary to what Shri Mataji says!

Do they think they know better than the Devi? It seems so!]

>

> > So you can see that the Adi Shakti took care of everything to

> > ensure that the evidence will be presented. i had to write the

book

> > to prevent these negative forces within the SY organization from

> > destroying Her Advent and Message to humanity. WCASY and NIPC are

> > powerless because SHRI ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF GOD is personal,

> > not collective intellectual property. Had that not been the case i

> > can assure all that WCASY and NIPC would have shut the sites.

>

> [Jagbir, that you " had to write the book to prevent these negative

forces within the SY organisation from destroying Her Advent and

Message to humanity " is becoming increasingly evident! You say that

WCASY and NIPC are powerless, because SHRI ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF

GOD is personal, not collective intellectual property! Can you

perhaps explain in more detail so forum readers can understand, how

what you have written is " personal " and not " collective intellectual

property " ? Also, i know NIPC have litigated against you, but is it

possible how you came by this knowledge, that " WCASY and NIPC are

powerless " to shut down www.adishakti.org?]

>

> > Then there is the case of Kash and Lalita's identities. i tried to

> > delete them but the Devi, having anticipated that move,

> > circumvented it by declaring to Kash that there were five days

> > when She appeared to him in Her purest form. i subsequently

> > realized that i had to state that truth as Christianity and Islam

> > strictly demands that eschatological evidence. The Great News and

> > Sure Signs of the Last Judgment and Al-Qiyamah had to be witnessed

> > and delivered by these intermediaries between the Divine and

> > humans, as has been the case for these strictly monotheistic

> > religions.

>

> [it is interesting Jagbir that it had not occurred to you

previously about the necessity for the Devi to fulfil the

eschatological requirements of Christianity and Islam. It must be

because i have come from the Christian background, that i realised

this necessity right from the start, and which is also the reason why

i had kept in my mind and heart, the sayings of Shri Mataji at Sydney

Airport in 1994, about the " special personalities " who would " give

evidence " for Her Incarnation. So there are more than one reason, why

this evidence is sorely needed. Here are some of the reasons:

>

> Reasons why Mystical Evidence to Confirm Her Incarnation Was Needed:

>

> a./ to confirm Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi is the Incarnation of the

Adi Shakti

> b./ to make sure Her continuing Message of Christ's Last Judgment

and Resurrection gets out to the world-at-large

> c./ to fulfil the eschatological requirements of Christianity &

Islam

> d./ to give evidence of the Kingdom of God (Sahasrara)

>

> Jagbir, if you can edit these points even better, or add to them,

it would be greatly appreciated.]

>

> > Thus it was absolutely necessary for me to defend against all the

> > negative forces trying to destroy Her advent and message. i do not

> > know the nature of this negativity that has overwhelmed the SY

> > organization since Yogi Mahajan's crusade. It is a very evil and

> > powerful force that is trying to fight against the Divine. Many

SYs

> > have been unwittingly drawn into and used as pawns in this silent

> > battle. Most won't believe what i am saying but time will tell.

>

> [Jagbir, you have defended against all the negative forces trying

to destroy Her advent and message. As you say, negativity has

overwhelmed the SY organization through Yogi Mahajan's crusade. It is

very definitely an " evil force that is trying to fight against the

Divine " - and as you say, " many SYs have been unwittingly drawn into

[it] and [been] used as pawns in this silent battle " .... These

negative forces within the organisation are going to extraordinary

lengths to destroy Her advent and message. We are going to

extraordinary lengths to protect Her advent and message! That is why

we do so much explaining, so much communication. That is why when

Shri Mataji spoke about the " special personalities " at Sydney

Airport, that She said: " Don't worry about them for now; you will

hear about them later! " i believe that is beginning to happen now.]

>

> > But things will change for the better, if they are not already. i

> > have been feeling for a few weeks that people are slowly becoming

> > conscious of the Last Judgment and Resurrection. They are becoming

> > confident and encouraged by the huge amount of articles and

> > evidence presented at www.adishakti.org. We have done well despite

> > all the negativity working against us.

>

> [Things will definitely change for the better and i believe that is

already happening. i have also been feeling for a few weeks now " that

people are slowly becoming conscious of the Last Judgment and

Resurrection " . The resource and evidence presented at

www.adishakti.org is amazing! Yes, we have done well despite all the

negativity working against us!]

>

> > i assure all that the Devi and Her Divine Message to humanity will

> > triumph. Look around the world and you will know why. It is only a

> > matter of time.

>

> [All that comes from Shri Mataji includes that which has come from

within the organisation [Her teaching] and what has come from outside

of the organisation [Her Mystical Evidence] - which many SYs are just

finding out about! What Shri Mataji has given has never been

restricted to the organisers of Sahaja Yoga, but it has been given to

SYs inside and outside of the actual organisation itself! Sahaja

Yogis need to realise this, for how else is Her Message going to get

out there, except to also take it to the world-at-large! Sahaja Yoga

is a spontaneous thing. You can't organise God. Even though there are

organisers who think they can! Let these Words of Shri Mataji set

this record straight, once and for all, that you just

cannot " organise God " !:

>

> " This Paul was nothing but an organiser, I think, a person who was

bureaucratic, I should say. But he was not only bureaucratic, he was

also a man who wanted to have a big position. So he told a lie, that

he went down to Damascus, and on his way, on his way he saw a big

cross. According to Sahaja Yoga, all such signs are the sign of

supraconscious. It's not of the Spirit. And then he came back and he

started his own research and sort of things like that, and he's

written a lot of things, but throughout, if you read, you'll find

that he was not a Sahaja Yogi, he was just an organiser, he was a

bureaucratic personality who was writing how we should administer,

how we should have people who are different types of people, how

should we manage them. So he is management department, he was the

management department for the Christians. So the Christians also

became extremely very secretarial type like, you see, everything has

a time, you must come like this, you must sit like this, just talk

like this. And also the nations which are supposed to be Christians

are observing all that in a very official manner. It is not

understood why are they so much official. Just the opposite what

Christ did, is to break the Agnya, they built up this. " (Shri Mataji

Nirmala Devi - Easter Puja - Istanbul, Turkey - 19 April, 1998)

>

> " One has to know that you cannot pay for God's love, you cannot pay

for it, you cannot organise it, it is something that God has given

you already, that is within you. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Lecture

at University of NSW - Sydney, Australia - 23 March, 1981)

>

> regards to all,

>

> violet

>

> , " jagbir

> singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > [Jagbir i have a question]:

> > >

> > > Is this 'Shri Kalki' that you say Yogi Mahajan approached re

your

> > > children, the same 'Shri Kalki' that innundates our forum?

> > >

> >

> > Dear Violet and all,

> >

> > There have been a number of Kalki wannabes in Sahaja Yoga. This

> > particular Kalki came to Montreal from Toronto (and is not

Ishmael)

> > After returning back to Toronto he claimed that Kash was

> responsible

> > for his 'madness'. So how mad was he?

> >

> > " One of them had just undergone the trauma of a failed business,

> > financial losses, self-abuse and a divorce (and sought refuge in

> > meditation.) Within days he believed himself to be `Shri Kalki',

> > endowed with 'supreme powers' that would unleash worldwide

> > destruction with his laser eyes, and begin Armageddon. He told

that

> > he had already meditated and 'talked' with Shri Mataji about

> > cleansing the world. He then prepared a statement addressed to all

> > Sahaja Yogis in North America. In it he declared he was `Shri

> Kalki'

> > and gave a list of commands for the Sahaja Yogis to follow. He

told

> > Kash's father to fax copies of this letter to all centers. Being

> the

> > incarnation of Shri Kalki, he would lead the Armageddon as Lord

> Jesus

> > was about to appear over New York city any time. According to him

> the

> > Bible had predicted that only 144,000 were to remain alive. He

> > admitted it was a heartless task but he had to perform his

duty!...

> >

> > However, this stranger began to get even stranger. The 'voices' in

> > his head began to make him do crazy things — get down on all four

> > limbs and bark like a dog, buy hundreds of Lotto 6/49 tickets,

hand

> > money to passersby, instantly analyze character, probe intentions,

> > read minds, and other peculiarities. Nearly every human being he

> met

> > was having a satanic stench, and he was having an extremely hard

> time

> > keeping the little sanity he had. Evil was everywhere and he had

> > nowhere to run!

> >

> > A few days later he came with about a dozen assorted secondhand

> books

> > that the 'voices' had told were for Kash's father. He was taken to

> > the basement and told to calm down. That only further agitated

him.

> > Suddenly he saw a protrusion in the ceiling, vaguely resembling a

> > boat's hull, and exclaimed, " This is the ship with the Holy

Grail. "

> >

> > That was the end of the witness state. Kash's father told him to

> stop

> > hallucinating, and bluntly told him that all his visions were

> > figments of his imagination. 'Shri Kalki' got very hurt, started

> > crying and stomped away, muttering that no one believed him. He

> never

> > came back again.

> >

> > Instead he went into deeper into his own nightmarish world. Just

> > before going to India he was plotting to kill a priest

> > because 'voices' within were pestering him to do so. He hung

around

> > the Saint Joseph's Oratory in Montreal, the largest shrine in the

> > world dedicated to St. Joseph, to familiarize himself with the

> area,

> > the movement of priests, and the escape route. A number of times

he

> > was on the verge of committing this heinous act, but for some

> reason

> > was unable to carry out the order of the 'voices.' Had he done so

> the

> > blame would have been clearly on Kash, his father, Sahaja Yoga and

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. The world media would have had a feeding

> > frenzy and SHRI ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF GOD never seen the

light

> > of day.

> >

> > But for some reason he was just unable to carry out his crazy

> scheme.

> > Some power of the Great ADI SHAKTI prevented him from lifting even

> a

> > finger from carrying out his demented desire. "

> >

> > Shri Adi Shakti: The Kingdom Of God, page 111

> >

> > At that time this Kalki was also in Delhi as he wanted to learn

> Indian

> > music. Yogi Mahajan approached him to learn more about Kash. And

> > Kalki must have insisted that his madness was caused by that evil

> > Kash. And Yogi Mahajan began a long campaign to rid the SY

> > organization of a most dangerous negativity, and he had no

shortage

> > of rank and file SYs willing to do his bidding.

> >

> > For a few years i kept quiet as i was busy writing the book. i

> > thought that Shri Mataji's praise and approval of the book would

> make

> > them realize otherwise.

> >

> > But i was so wrong. The whole of North American was dead against

> the

> > book. Yogi Mahajan was especially 'mad' - i was told a few years

ago

> > that he disagreed with Shri Mataji over Her approval of the book,

> > just before being sacked.

> >

> > The situation has not changed much today in North America. i still

> > don't know why and which part of the book they disapprove. They

are

> > even willing to defy Shri Mataji's repeated approval and praise! i

> am

> > sure WCASY and NIPC would have legally shut www.adishakti.org down

> if

> > it was in their power. They just cannot because Shri Mataji's

> > permission was sought a few times, and She approved. (i remember

> > WCASY member Manoj Kumar trying to shut down www.adishakti.org

late

> > 1999 by claiming that i did not have WRITTEN PERMISSION to use

Shri

> > Mataji quotes!)

> >

> > So you can see that the Adi Shakti took care of everything to

> ensure

> > that the evidence will be presented. i had to write the book to

> > prevent these negative forces within the SY organization from

> > destroying Her Advent and Message to humanity. WCASY and NIPC are

> > powerless because SHRI ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF GOD is personal,

> > not collective intellectual property. Had that not been the case i

> > can assure all that WCASY and NIPC would have shut the sites.

> >

> > Then there is the case of Kash and Lalita's identities. i tried to

> > delete them but the Devi, having anticipated that move,

> circumvented

> > it by declaring to Kash that there were five days when She

appeared

> > to him in Her purest from. i subsequently realized that i had to

> > state that truth as Christianity and Islam strictly demands that

> > eschatological evidence. The Great News and Sure Signs of the Last

> > Judgment and Al-Qiyamah had to be witnessed and delivered by these

> > intermediaries between the Divine and humans, as has been the case

> > for these strictly monotheistic religions.

> >

> > Thus it was absolutely necessary for me to defend against all the

> > negative forces trying to destroy Her advent and message. i do not

> > know the nature of this negativity that has overwhelmed the SY

> > organization since Yogi Mahajan's crusade. It is a very evil and

> >; powerful force that is trying to fight against the Divine. Many

SYs

> > have been unwittingly drawn into and used as pawns in this silent

> > battle. Most won't believe what i am saying but time will tell.

> >

> > But things will change for the better, if they are not already. i

> > have been feeling for a few weeks that people are slowly becoming

> > conscious of the Last Judgment and Resurrection. They are becoming

> > confident and encouraged by the huge amount of articles and

> evidence

> > presented at www.adishakti.org. We have done well despite all the

> > negativity working against us. i assure all that the Devi and Her

> > Divine Message to humanity will triumph. Look around the world and

> > you will know why. It is only a matter of time.

> >

> > regards to all,

> >

> > jagbir

> >

> > , " Violet "

> > <violet.tubb@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Jagbir and All,

> > >

> > > All that Shri Mataji said and gave needs to circulate through

the

> > whole Body of Sahaja Yoga. Shri Mataji has given that not all Her

> > children are strictly inside the organisation of Sahaja Yoga. Some

> of

> > Her children are outside of Her organisation - a case in point

> being

> >; the " ;special personalities " She talked about in 1994, whom She

said

> > would give evidence to support Her Incarnation from outside of the

> > organisation of Sahaja Yoga:

> > >

> > http://adishakti.org/forum/

> shri_mataji_told_of_a_great_blessing_to_man

> > kind_10-04-2006.htm

> > >

> > > Then there is the other occasion at Sydney Airport in the 1990's

> > when She said that there would be " ;those who would give Her

Message

> > from outside the organisation if Her Message were not given from

> > inside the organisation " . I and a room full of yogis were present

> > when She said this. At that time, i had no idea why these things

> were

> > said by Her. A decade or so later, i now understand why She said

> > these things.

> > >

> > > i know now that She was informing us, that Her Identity,

Mission,

> > Message and Evidence to Confirm Her Incarnation - Her Advent, in

> > other words, would not be confined within the boundaries of any

> > external organisation (that counts membership numbers), but would

> be

> > part and parcel of a Living Organisation of Sahaja Yoga, which

> > includes Sahaja Yogis inside the organisation called Sahaja Yoga,

> and

> > also includes Sahaja Yogis who would be doing Her Work, outside of

> > the organisation called Sahaja Yoga.

> > >

> > > An organisation usually has restrictions, but a Living

> Organisation

> > cannot have restrictions like an organisation does. I am talking

> > about real spiritual liberty to follow one's Spirit, rather than

> > making a cult following out of a particular leader. As a Mother,

> Shri

> > Mataji never tried to make a cult following out of Herself. She

> > always pointed seekers to their individual Mother Within, that She

> > said She incarnated, to introduce us too. Her Words as recent as

17

> > January, 2008 still point to that Individual Mother Within!:

> > >

> > > " But on the day of Sankranti we should know that we should

> appease

> > the Devi residing within us and should know how to please the

Devi.

> > (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Sakshat Sankranti Puja in

Pratishthan -

> > 17 January, 2008)

> > >

> > > Christians call the 'Individual Mother Within' the Holy Spirit.

> > Lesser spiritual leaders than our Mother have often failed in true

> > spiritual leadership qualities, making Her children follow them,

> > resulting in a cult following of a leader. Shri Mataji says

though,

> > that we must " appease the Devi residing within! After all, She

> spent

> > so many pujas, so that we can meet that Devi that resides within!

> > >

> > > Sahaja Yogis cannot just simply and smugly (or snuggly!) settle

> > themselves inside the confines of Her organisation and think that

> > Shri Mataji also has to confine Herself in the same way! Shri

> Mataji

> > has embodied us in the Living Organisation of Sahaja Yoga. For

> > example, i may have left Her organisation called Sahaja Yoga, but

i

> > have never left Her Living Organisation of Sahaja Yoga! What is

the

> > difference? In an organisation you can be taken off a membership

> list

> > and be ex-communicated from the Sahaja Yoga Newsletter for doing

> > nothing wrong, but in the Living Organisation of Sahaja Yoga,

there

> > is no membership and as long as you please the Devi that resides

> > within, you are a part and parcel of that Living Organisation!

> > >

> > > i hope this comforts Sahaja Yogis who may be feeling that the

> > organisation called Sahaja Yoga is not all it was made out to be.

> > They may therefore be quite disappointed. They may have

> difficulties

> > when there are contradictions between what Shri Mataji gave and

> what

> > is actually happening. i hope these person are heartened, knowing

> > that Shri Mataji talked about a " Living Organisation of Sahaja

> Yoga "

> > where there is truth, honesty, and sincerity. My hope is that with

> > the help of the Sahaja Yogis from outside the organisation, the

> > Sahaja Yogis inside the organisation will be able to take stock

and

> > change things so that the organisaton of Sahaja Yoga will become

> all

> > it has promised Shri Mataji to be! Shri Mataji said that we are

all

> > past masters who have returned at this special time. A lot of

> Sahaja

> > Yogis have their Self-realisation connection, but still don't have

> > the full confidence to express their Self-Mastery. Sahaja Yogis

> from

> > without the organisation want to use their unique freedom from

> > organisational restrictions, to help Sahaja Yogis gain confidence

> in

> > their Self-Mastery, and transform the organisation from within, so

> > that it will be what Shri Mataji dearly wanted it to be. And

> besides

> > we need just such an earthly organisation to help spiritually

> >;;; emancipate humanity-at-large!

> > >

> > > If you remember i wrote about how Christian ministers call their

> > whole congregation 'Christians', though not everyone who is called

> a

> > Christian is necessarily a sincere, honest follower of Christ.

> > Likewise, Shri Mataji addresses all attendees as 'Sahaja Yogis'

but

> > that does not mean they are all sincere, honest Sahaja Yogis. It

> > depends upon what is in the person's heart. Just being recorded on

> an

> > organisation's membership list does not make them a Sahaja Yogi.

> The

> > true recording as to whether a Sahaja Yogi is a sincere, honest,

> > truthful yogi or not, is recorded by their own Kundalini that has

> > been awakened. Just because someone attends the organisation of

> > Sahaja Yoga does not therefore guarantee that they are sincere,

> > honest, and truthful yogis. They may only be 'skin-deep' Sahaja

> > Yogis, in other words, not " deep " yogis, just like there are

> shallow

> > and deep Christians, who attend the Christian religion.

> > >

> > > i am hoping that a bridge will be created to close the gap

> between

> > Sahaja Yogis inside the organisation of Sahaja Yoga, and Sahaja

> Yogis

> > who are working for Shri Mataji as She predicted, from outside of

> the

> > organisation. If the Living Organisation of Sahaja Yoga can work

> >; together, and ignore the spike in the system that was initially

> > forged by Yogi Mahajan then i do believe that Her Message would

> more

> > speedily go out from Montreal, Canada as She predicted. Here is

> > Jagbir's description of that " spike in the system " :

> > >

> > > " But today i can truly see the breadth and scope of the subtle,

> >; silent conspiracy against Shri Mataji, initiated by ex-world

leader

> > Yogi Mahajan in the mid-1990s, against those giving evidence of

Her

> > incarnation. i quote:

> > >

> > > " He Is A Child Of Darkness

> > >;

> > > The sad saga continued as the latent negativity crossed the seas

> to

> > continued its destructive path.

> > >

> > > At this time Kash and his brother Shahwinder were enrolled at

the

> > International Sahaja Public School in Dharamsala, India. When Kash

> > and Shahwinder reached New Delhi, India, they were in for a shock.

> > The school authorities told them to go back because they could not

> > find their names in the registration book, and that they did not

> > realize they were educated in French (even though they were fluent

> in

> > English)! Those in charge insisted that Kash and his brother must

> > return home, as if they had just taken a three-wheeler from nearby

> > Janak Puri and rudely requested registration. Even the Canadian

> > leader Jay Chudasama and SY Steve Gulati were unable to remove

this

> > petty problem. The school authorities were determined to send them

> > back and demanded they return home!

> > >

> > > Their father had to make frantic calls to Delhi and Poona and

> > begged that they be allowed to stay. He was so relieved when they

> > were given a one-month extension.

> > >

> > > Then, a few days later, realizing that they could not possibly

> > switch from French to English, study new subjects and pass the

> > required exam within a month, the Truth had to be told to secure

> > their stay for a few years. He sent fifty pages of Shri Adi

Shakti:

> > Kingdom Of God as evidence to one of the SY world leader, Yogi

> > Mahajan, and Mrs. Chitnavis (the principal) explaining that

> something

> > phenomenal had happened: a young SY child had confirmed that the

> > Golden Goddess does reside in the Sahasrara.

> > >

> > > At this time 'Shri Kalki' was also in India, and approached by

SY

> > Mahajan. Kash was the topic of discussion. 'Shri Kalki', who was

> sure

> > that Kash was possessed by the same demons that tormented him,

> > probably did not have much kind words. Evil spirits had possessed

> > this 'child of darkness' and given him the visionary powers. This

> > child was dangerous to Sahaja Yoga and had to be dealt with

> quickly.

> > The fact that he was now inside the compound of the Adi Shakti's

> > school, mingling with the children of realized souls, only made

> > matters worse. [bREAK QUOTE]

> > >

> > > [Jagbir i have a question]:

> > >

> > > Is this 'Shri Kalki' that you say Yogi Mahajan approached re

your

> > children, the same 'Shri Kalki' that innundates our forum? If that

> is

> > the case, it is unbelievable that they still support this crazy

> 'Shri

> > Kalki's' advice to YM, instead of accepting the Evidence that Shri

> > Mataji said would confirm Her Incarnation! The evidence to confirm

> > Her Incarnation, is obviously the Jewel in the Crown, otherwise

the

> > Adi Shakti's Adversary would not be working so hard to demonize

> that

> > evidence, which means that Sahaja Yogis really have to wake up and

> > see what is happening right in front of their noses!

> > >

> > > [RESUME QUOTE]:

> > >

> > > The father humbly asked that Kash be given protection, guidance

> and

> > sanctuary until Her book was published, as the school atmosphere

in

> > Montreal was harsh and against spiritual development.

> > >

> > > But SY Mahajan vaguely explained to him over the phone what he

> > thought about the whole episode, as reflected in his opinion in

The

> > Ascent, and believed by most Sahaja Yogis. Kash was dabbling in

> > darkness and deserved no special attention or protection — or even

> be

> > exorcised of the 'demons' that 'possessed' him.

> > >

> > > Kash's father was not convinced by SY Mahajan's brief evasive

> > explanation as it contradicted his (Mahajan's) own conviction

> > that " Only those who go deep in the source discover the Golden

> > Goddess that resides within. Her touch enlightens and enthralls

the

> > total being. It is indeed the miracle of miracles. This miracle

> > resides in every being. The wise pursue it, the scriptures speak

of

> > it, and the saints glory in its praise. " (Yogi Mahajan, The

Ascent,

> > Motilal Banarsidass Publishers, Delhi, 1997 p. 4.)

> > >

> > > Then he (Yogi Mahajan) was told that his (Kash) younger 5-year-

> old

> > brother, Arwinder, was also experiencing and confirming the same

> > Reality. Yogi Mahajan offered no explanation. On the contrary, he

> > rejected one of the greatest spiritual enlightenment in the

history

> > of humankind as the work of evil spirits and refused to listen to

> any

> > further explanation!

> > >

> > > Their stunned father could hardly believe the utter disregard

and

> > spiritual arrogance displayed by those empowered to make

decisions.

> > Fifty pages of proof was treated as trash! Desperate pleas for

help

> > found no compassion! [bREAK QUOTE]

> > >

> > > [Dear Sahaja Yogis who are in the organisation of Sahaja Yoga

> > especially - this is why you need to have compassion for Jagbir

and

> > his children, and realise that any criticisms from Jagbir about

the

> > organisation of Sahaja Yoga are directly related to the wrong

> > direction that Sahaja Yoga took, when Yogi Mahajan approached this

> > false 'Shri Kalki' for his advice re the children, whom Shri

Mataji

> > said in 1994, would give Evidence to Confirm Her Incarnation - and

> > ran with that. In fact, Shri Mataji has since revealed that

> > these " special personalities " are special because they are angels

> who

> > have incarnated as human beings and Shri Mataji has also revealed,

> > that it is unprecedented, that two angels have ever incarnated

into

> > one household! We have seen this 'Shri Kalki' on this forum, and

he

> > is an absolutely crazy fellow. It is the case of a crazy fellow

> > calling the " angels " of Shri Mataji as " possessed of evil " ! There

> is

> > your spiritual fight between the forces of Light and darkness,

> right

> > within Her own organisation of Sahaja Yoga! But the forces of

Light

> > will win in the end. The question is, will Sahaja Yogis be found

to

> > be on the Light's side (supporting Her angels) or will they be

> found

> > to be on the dark's side (supporting the dark one's schemes) and

> > therefore continuing to demonize the very angels that have given

> the

> > Evidence to Confirm Her Incarnation?!]

> > >

> > > [RESUME QUOTE]:

> > >

> > > Two stranded sons of the Great MahaDevi soon found that there

was

> > no shelter from the fast approaching storm! " ;

> > >

> > > Shri Adi Shakti: Kingdom Of God, pg. 114

> > >

> > > Yogi Mahajan succeeded in his plot to demonize and lay false

> > charges against the children in order to expel them against Shri

> > Mataji's wishes. Then he set about influencing leaders and those

> able

> > to inflict maximum damage. Since he was the undisputed power

broker

> > in Sahaja Yoga his false accusations and ignorance were most

> welcome

> > and willingly spread since most SYs too believed likewise.

> > >

> > > Despite Shri Mataji expelling him a few years ago WCASY members

> > like Alan Wherry, Viktor Bondar and others have continued where

> Yogi

> > Mahajan left. And they have henchmen like John Noyce and Ed

> Saugstad

> > to poison and turn SYs against the websites and forum of those

> giving

> > evidence of Her incarnation. The ghost of Yogi Mahajan still walks

> > the corridors of Sahaja Yoga till today and continues to frighten

> > SYs. Let me remind them that the Truth of Her incarnation will

> > outlast each and every one of them. There is no way WCASY and

SYSSR

> > will survive, as it is coming clear in Vancouver, Montreal,

> Toronto,

> > New York, London, Hamburg and other SY centers.

> > >

> > > the camel will die from the thirst of the Truth being declared,

> > >

> > > jagbir

> > >

> > http://adishakti.org/forum/

> in_june_1994_pramilas_son_SY_harsh_mehra_to

> > ok_these_faxes_to_london_UK_12-22-2006.htm

> > >

> > > [sahaja Yogis might feel that Jagbir is being harsh when he says

> > that:

> > >

> > > " There is no way WCASY and SYSSR will survive, as it is coming

> > clear in Vancouver, Montreal, Toronto, New York, London, Hamburg

> and

> > other SY centers. "

> > >

> > > i remember that Shri Mataji said that Her Message will go out

> from

> > Canada to the rest of the world! i feel this can only successfully

> > happen when there is a Living Organisation of Sahaja Yoga. This

> means

> > that there needs to be a Unity among all Sahaja Yogis - those from

> > within the organisation of Sahaja Yoga, and those doing Her Work

> from

> > outside the organisation as She said may happen, and which has

> > happened! To achieve that, everyone needs to try to come to an

> > understanding so that they can work together. It is not

> unforeseeable

> > that we can all work together. That is what a Living Organization

> of

> > Sahaja Yoga is capable of. i know it! Please believe it too!

> > >

> > > In conclusion, i give my Sahaj Love to all my brothers and

> sisters,

> > wherever you may be. May we truly be united, against all odds,

> > against all negative forces that work against that Unity! Appended

> is

> > an important Message given by our Ever-Loving Divine Mother, given

> on

> > 17 January, 2008. Enjoy!

> > >

> > > love from violet

> > >

> > > Sakshat Sankranti Puja in Pratishthan

> > >

> > > Shri Mataji expressed the desire to have a Puja today and in a

> > short time preparations were done and a few Sahaja yogis and

Sahaja

> > yoginis were invited for the same. After the customary Puja

> ceremony

> > ended with the Aarti all present were pleasantly surprised when

Sir

> > C.P. asked Shri Mataji if She wished to speak.

> > >

> > > Shri Mataji spoke on the microphone and announced that today is

> > Sankranti. She said that Sankranti meant the happening of

something

> > new. That with the awakening of the Kundalini within us we have

> > become new.

> > >

> > > But on the day of Sankranti we should know that we should

appease

> > the Devi residing within us and should know how to please the

Devi.

> > Referring to the customary ritual of Makar Sankranti when we give

> Til

> > & Gud sweets (sweets made of Jaggery and sesame seeds) to others

> She

> > said that this is for spreading love amongst ourselves.

> > >

> > > She said we should thank the Sun a lot. Because of the Sun's

> grace

> > so many things happen.

> > >

> > > Today everyone should Namaskar the Sun. The Sun's energy,

> knowledge

> > & light should come within us.

> > >

> > > Mother further said that we are all awakened. We have chaitanya

> > flowing within us. Now we should use this Chaitanaya.

> > >

> > > Bring energy within yourself and bring peace within yourself and

> > tell the world that within us only is this energy and that we

> should

> > get it. From your qualities and from your truthfulness you should

> > increase this and grow this.

> > >

> > > Today's occasion is special because of the Sun's special grace

on

> > us. For this there should be thankfulness. You have got a lot and

> you

> > should be getting more and will be getting more. This should be

> > increased.

> > >

> > > Shri Mataji said that we have done a lot of Puja to Her and She

> > wondered that by doing such Puja what we desired of Her.

> > >

> > > She said that She desired that we become good Sahaja yogis and

> show

> > the right path to thousands of people and teach them goodness and

> for

> > ourselves She said that we should experience the energy that is

> > flowing within us.

> > >

> > > Shri Mother said that She was very joyful on seeing all of us

and

> > smilingly asked whether now She may go and then laughed and so did

> > the Sahaja yogis and Sahaja Yoginis present there. Everyone stood

> up

> > and clapped. Shri Mataji asked for the prasad to be given to

> everyone

> > and then departed from the Hall.

> > >

> > > (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - Sakshat Sankranti Puja in

Pratishthan

> -

> > 17 January, 2008)

> > >

> > > , " jagbir

> > > singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Violet and all,

> > > >

> > > > i will definitely do so as and when suitable. All of us are

> going

> > > to

> > > > benefit, and that includes myself. Future seekers will greatly

> > > > advance spiritually in a much shorter time with all the wealth

> of

> > > > mystical knowledge based on genuine experiences that helps

> > > understand

> > > > the esoteric secrets/parables/facts of the scriptures.

> > > >

> > > > regards to all,

> > > >

> > > > jagbir

> > > >

> > > > , " Violet "

> > > > <violet.tubb@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Jagbir,

> > > > >

> > > > > The way you have related Sri Nisargadatta's quotes in " I AM

> > > THAT "

> > > > and the mystical knowledge given by Shri Mataji through your

> > > > children - in your own words and with your comments included,

is

> > > very

> > > > helpful for the understanding of this mystical knowledge. i

feel

> > > it

> > > > would be spiritually beneficial if you could do more of these,

> > > which

> > > > might help to dispel in SY minds and hearts, Yogi Mahajan et

> al's

> > > > maya that the mystical knowledge Shri Mataji gave through the

> > > special

> > > > personalities from Montreal, Canada, is possessed of evil.

> > > > >

> > > > > warmest regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > violet

> > > > >

> > > > > , " jagbir

> > > > > singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >; The postman just delivered the book " I AM THAT " by Sri

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > > Maharaj. Tuesday is indeed an auspicious day to receive

> > > spiritual

> > > > > > gifts.

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

February 2, 2008

Re: How come WCASY's Will is the complete opposite despite Sir C.P.'s

claim?

Dear devotees of the Adi Shakti,

i just want to emphasize on Sir C.P.'s last sentence on what has been

loudly and proudly claimed by WCASY to be a historic landmark on the

Sahaja Yoga landscape. There is a feeling that we may have missed the

immensity of this insanity:

" We have now to move forward, carry forward the message and act on

that basis. "

Sir C.P. is actually telling SYs to declare that message (of WCASY now

officially representing Shri Mataji's Will) to all. The rank and file

SYs are supposed to rejoice over the news and spread the joy

everywhere. Not only that, they are supposed to act on it i.e., begin

obeying the will of WCASY since it is now literally the Will of the

Devi!

How on earth can self-realized souls obey such a blasphemous request?

i have yet to find a single voice of protest from SYSSR SYs. On the

contrary, it is business as usual in SY collectives worldwide.

But where will they hide in future when the dire consequences of their

unforgivable transgression eventually come home to roost? The grounds

of Sahaja Yoga are littered with the ruinous remains of brainstorming

sessions, rules, dogma and statements. However, nothing in the past

will match the everlasting future repercussions of daring to wrest

the Will of the Devi, and asking Her devotees to celebrate in

collective joy. This is the worst crime any human can commit in Kali

Yuga! The unthinkable has finally happened for the first time in

history! Future seekers will never forgive those who participated in

this blasphemy.

Main Entry: blas·phe·my

1 a: the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence

for God b: the act of claiming the attributes of deity

2: irreverence toward something considered sacred or inviolable [1]

Anyone having read any of the holy scriptures - Old Testament, Bible,

Quran, Bhagavad-Gita, Sri Lalita Sahasranama, Guru Granth Sahib -

will never ever think of assuming the Will of the Divine. It will not

even cross their minds.

And here we have Sir C.P. declaring the unthinkable and asking SYs to

rejoice with WCASY. And they have. How can such a blasphemous

organization ever survive? i beg for answers.

as i keep repeating for good reason - do not empower them,

jagbir

[1] Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

, " jagbir singh "

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