Guest guest Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Dear Gerlinde and all, i wish to clarify your question on the forum as others may have the same question on their mind. Yes, a few years ago after the book was finished Dr. Balwinder did point the same too. i read that speech of Shri Mataji again and realized that She may have been talking about Akimov's book. Subsequently i began erasing all references of the quote to SHRI ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF GOD. i could not do the same for the Table of Contents as the book was already done, and i left the TOC as it was. At that time i was pretty sure that Shri Mataji was referring to SHRI ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF GOD due to the sheer breath and depth of the Devi's revelations in the Sahasrara and Her triggering of the Sure Signs of the Last Judgment and Al-Qiyamah. i could not understand then how, after Akimov's book is published, " all over the world that will be known about our work, will be not challenged any more " . Today i am definite that has not happened, and is not going to ever happen. (i don't even know if Akimov's book exists in the first place.) So you have to forgive me for assuming that Shri Mataji was talking about my book. There is another reason too. Prior to seeking the physical Shri Mataji's permission i sought that of the eternal Adi Shakti in the Sahasrara to publish the book. The Devi agreed. So naturally i assumed that as Her incarnation, Shri Mataji is referring to that too. Moreover i had already sought Her permission in Toronto twice - first in a clothing store and the second in Her hotel suite where Shri Mataji told the leaders and SYs present that permission had already been granted previously, and there was no need to ask again. This second audience with Shri Mataji was just prior to the 1998 Adi Shakti puja at Cabella, Italy. So it was only natural for me to assume that Shri Mataji was talking about SHRI ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF GOD. Today, more the ever before, that 'error' of mine only seems to be becoming more true than false. i hope the Devi within over time proves that " all over the world that will be known about our work, will be not challenged any more " . After all, SHRI ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF GOD records all that She has revealed to humanity. So far no religious organization, priest, pastor, reverend, bishop, pope, rabbi, cleric, imam, mullah, shaikh, ulema, ayatollah, guru, swami, pandit, brahmin, acarya, bhagwan, granthi, giani, lama, monk, dalai lamas or false guru buster has challenged it. One day all over the world _that_ will be known. May the Devi prove that my deep faith and conviction was never an error. regards to all, jagbir On Feb 3, 2008 8:25 PM, Gerlinde Sattler <gerlindesattler wrote: Dear Jagbir, Recently I read the puja talk of [ADI SHAKTI PUJA - Being Sahaja Yogis, you are responsible for the whole world [this phrase is on the tape cover of my personal tape ] 21 june 1998 - Cabella Ligure (Italia).......... which I've copied in its entirety further down and in which the following quote is to be found: " Now, as it is, once this book is out, all over the world that will be known about our work, will be not challenged any more. But still we have to see for ourselves that if we have achieved this kind of recognition, then we should be up to that, our capability should be up to that. " I recalled this quote from the first time I had encountered the adishakti.org site, because it made a great impression on me as it concerned Shri Mataji giving you the permission to publish your ADI SHAKTI: KINGDOM OF GOD book in the Third and Final Permission To Publish: " Once This Book Is Out . . . " 120 under the http://www.adishakti.org/table_of_contents.htm TABLE OF CONTENTS also found below. Why I'm mentioning this to you is that the source of this quote [shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, You Must Develop Humility, Shri Adi Shakti Puja, Cabella, Italy – May 21, 1998] is different from the puja talk I just read. [ADI SHAKTI PUJA, Being Sahaja Yogis, you are responsible for the whole world 21 June 1998, Cabella, Ligure, Italia] Perhaps this same quote was found in both sources, and if so, that should, I believe, be clarified for others wishing to negate your work. One added item of importance to clarify is this: In the June 21, 1998 ADI SHAKTI PUJA in which an intro by Guido Lanza was made about Anatoli Akimov and his upcoming book, another reference was made by Shri Mataji about Her Own book and Akimov's book in Her Puja talk. To which of these books was HER reference made in HER following quote: " Now, as it is, once this book is out, all over the world that will be known about our work, will be not challenged any more. But still we have to see for ourselves that if we have achieved this kind of recognition, then we should be up to that, our capability should be up to that. " - Anatoli Akimov, Shri Mataji, OR Adi Shakti:Kingdom of God? I'm concerned that the present quote [ Third and Final Permission To Publish: " Once This Book Is Out . . . " 120 under the http://www.adishakti.org/table_of_contents.htm TABLE OF CONTENTS also found below] which seemingly points to Shri Mataji referring to your book, may be interpreted as erroneous, since it could also be referring to Akimov's book or Shri Mataji's Own book as you can verify for yourself in the following and in the continued Puja talk found further down this page: ADI SHAKTI PUJA 21 june 1998 - Cabella Ligure (Italia) [introduction by Guido Lanza, regarding a scientific conference in Moscow.] " And he [Akimov] has already written a book in Russia which will be translated in English and he is preparing a new book on which of course the major topic will be this unique discovery. So now we have somebody who has scientifically proved what Shri Mataji is. " (applause) Perhaps I'm needlessly concerning myself about this, but I feel that this is an area that could easily be misconstrued as Shri Mataji NOT having given permission to publish the ADI SHAKTI:KINGDOM OF GOD at all, but rather that SHE is referring to AKIMOV's book, since much of the puja talk seems to refer back to Akimov's discovery and the puja talk does not give mention, as far as I can see, to ADI SHAKTI :THE KINGDOM OF GOD at all. Pardon me if I'm wrong, but I rather think it would be preferable and indeed even necessary to have no perceived ambiguity here. Warm regards, Gerlinde --------------- 88888888888888888888888888888888888 Please continue to view the highlighted areas. This should help to clarify what I'm trying to say. http://www.adishakti.org/table_of_contents.htm TABLE OF CONTENTS Preface 12 The First Permission From The Spirit Of The Living God In The Sahasrara 13 " I Am The Adi Shakti . . . You People Have To Prove It That I Am THAT! " 15 The Ancient Beings Are Coming! 16 " The Falsehood Of All Outside Religions . . . Will Be Exposed " 17 " For Standing Up For The Truth Of Any Cause Is The War Of Dharma " 19 The Material Marathon 20 A 'divine' mother?!!! 21 " I Feel Peaceful. " 22 A 'Cool Breeze'?! A Cool Breeze?!! (Or the Breath Of God Almighty?!!!) 25 " The First Doubt Which Is Very Common Is, " Who Is Mataji? " " 26 TABLE OF CONTENTS 28 PART ONE Chapter 1 The Universal Question: Why Are We Here On Earth? 47 " How Does One Meet A True Guru? " 48 O Speak Almighty God! 50 " JOIN SHRI MATAJI! " 51 The Manna Monsoon Of Many Moons 55 The Decadent Decades 57 Satnaam: The Imperishable Word 61 " Thou Art The Pristine Spirit . . . Which Illuminates And Breaks The Self-Hypnotism " 62 " In Thee Is My Only Haven And Refuge . . . O Bhavani! " 64 Meaning Of Avatar Or Incarnation 65 " The Highest Manifestation Of God Almighty Is As Mother " 70 " It Is For The Benevolence Of The Whole Human Race " 71 " First Is Self-Realization . . . What is God-Realization? " 72 " Tell All The Nations And Tell All The People All Over The Great Message " 76 The Spiritual Monsoon Begins 77 Earth Is A Conscious, Living Mother 78 Mother Earth: The Womb Of The Universe 81 The Woman Of Great Beauty 84 Overriding Fundamental Difference 85 Swami Satyananda: " Who Will Give Me The Proper Answer? " 86 The Initial Rejection 89 " You Have Seen Photographs Of Angels Around You " 90 " Assuredly, What Ye Are Promised Must Come To Pass " 92 " We Have Done Our Job Here " 93 " It Is Not A Blind Faith! " 94 " Sure, You Should Tell Them. " 95 " In The Age of Aquarius, Even The Skeptics Will Believe " 96 " Now You Have Entered Into The Kingdom Of God " 97 The First Permission In The Sahasrara 98 The Five Divine Days 99 The Golden Goddess Of The Sahasrara 100 " This Is The First Time In History . . . " 101 But Why A Religious Pariah? 102 Evolution: The Relentless Rebirth Of Species 104 But How Does God Almighty Know Everything? 106 The Second Permission 107 " They Do Not Know From Where They Get This Knowledge " 111 He Is A Child Of Darkness 114 They Must Leave Her School! 115 They Will Be Expelled! 116 We Will Leave, But Not Withdraw 117 Third and Final Permission To Publish: " Once This Book Is Out . . . " 120 CONTENTS:- PART ONE: The Dawn of the Divine Millennium PART TWO: And the Arrival Of The Kingdom Of God PART THREE: The Morning Of The Spiritual Monsoon PART FOUR: Lord Jesus Christ, The Universal Saviour The Antichrist And The Prince Of Carnal Life The Book Of Revelation PART FIVE: Shri Buddha, The Awakened One The Tao of Shri Lao-Tzu The Aykaa Mayee of Guru Nanak PART SIX: Prophet Muhammad, The Messenger of God The Holy Qur'an, Revelation Par Excellence The Sure Signs of Allah The Good News of Qiyamah Ibis The Great Deceiver PART SEVEN: The Missing Years The New Age Pimps The Prophecies of Nostradamus " Once this book is out all over the world, it will be known about our Work. We'll not be challenged any more. But still we have to see for ourselves, that if we have this kind of recognition or not…our capabilities should be up to that. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi You Must Develop Humility, Shri Adi Shakti Puja Cabella, Italy – May 21, 1998 Welcome to the Millennium of the Spirit, the Millennium of the Great Adi Shakti Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. Merry Christmas and Peace on Earth. Jagbir Singh ................................................. The title here - Being Sahaja Yogis, you are...... comes from the tape I have, Jagbir. [ADI SHAKTI PUJA - Being Sahaja Yogis, you are responsible for the whole world 21 june 1998 - Cabella Ligure (Italia)........... Now, as it is, once this book is out, all over the world that will be known about our work, will be not challenged any more. But still we have to see for ourselves that if we have achieved this kind of recognition, then we should be up to that, our capability should be up to that. We should not be lagging behind. For example, if you ask some Sahaja Yogis, specially Sahaja Yoginis, they don't know much about Sahaja Yoga; they don't know about chakras, they don't know anything about the deities; nothing they know, how can they be Sahaja Yogis? You have to know all about it. Only thing that you don't realise that it's not outside that you are a Sahaja Yogi, but it is inside. Inside you have to have that kind of an understanding of the chakras and of Sahaja Yoga, how it works, how it helps you. Now, supposing if I am the source of that energy - which you know very well I am - then you achieve yours also a kind of a perfection about dealing with people and bringing them to Sahaja Yoga. It's a very important work you have to do is to bring Sahaja Yogis in Sahaja Yoga. ] *************** ADI SHAKTI PUJA 21 june 1998 - Cabella Ligure (Italia) [introduction by Guido Lanza, regarding a scientific conference in Moscow.] Shri Mataji has asked me to share with you what was the last experience of Her Divine visit in Russia. And I must say it was really a dramatic breakthrough, because in the scientific conference She had in Moscow, there was the participation of a very well known scientist, a physicist. His name is Anatoli Akimov, he is very well known all over Russia and all over the world also. And he came with a theory and he has been studying this theory for a few years, which is based on the vacuum body and he studied something like the torsion fields and he could explain in a very clear way, in a very scientific way, the vibrations that Shri Mataji is emitting. So, at the beginning he was studying some Yogis which were meditating and he could notice that they were emitting vibrations, there was an aura around them. But then, when he came to Shri Mataji, when he saw Her pictures, the miraculous pictures, then he could really find out what it was and he said that in Her case, it was something which is infinite, which is unlimited. And also it was very nice, because at one point he said: " As a man of science, I have to admit that all the scientists that so far made some exceptional, unique discovery..., I have to admit that all this did not come through some scientific process, through the brain, we can say. But it came only through some divine inspiration. We can mention Newton, we can mention Einstein and so on. " And he said: " Also in my case, when I was studying and working on this theory, at some point when I saw the picture of Shri Mataji, then I got the inspiration. " And then now Shri Mataji has invited him in September to come. And he has already written a book in Russia which will be translated in English and he is preparing a new book on which of course the major topic will be this unique discovery. So now we have somebody who has scientifically proved what Shri Mataji is. (applause) [start of Shri Mataji's talk] In Russia, the people, somehow are very open-minded. Not only that, the scientists especially are very open-minded and were suppressed very much. So, they tried to find out the subtler things, not only finding out about chemicals or about some physical properties of the light, but they wanted to go into the subtler side and they had found out already a great deal of knowledge about the auras around the hands, auras around the body. They had done so much of research and it was accepted all over the world their findings. Now, this gentleman was a specialist, I think, because he is a very well known, very, very well-known person and he is holding a very big position. He was saying that he has to run 150 organisations, very humble and very nice person. And when he came out with this discovery, I was happy in a way, because scientifically if it is proved, then nobody can challenge it. He has already written a book with all the algebraic complications of what he wanted to prove. And he said that there is a vacuum beyond the consciousness. There is a vacuum and in that vacuum only, you can know the reality and once all this becomes the reality, it is a science and that's how it is made into science. He showed so many of My photographs, specially the one where a lot of energy is coming out of My Sahasrara when we were on a boat. So, he said: " She is the source of all the cosmic energy. " And that's what Adi Shakti is. She is the One who creates everything. The whole atmosphere that we know of is very artificial, but when you understand what She has done, it's the first thing She does is to - and in My book also I have written down about it - but I would like to tell you that Her first, we should say, manifestation is on the left hand side. That's the Mahakali's manifestation. So, She comes on the Mahakali system, the left hand side and that is where She created Ganesha. Shri Ganesha is created because His purity, His innocence and auspiciousness, this had to be created before She created the universe. So, first thing She does is to create Shri Ganesha and She settles down. Then She goes up, of course, in the body of the Virata and then She goes round and goes up on the right hand side, in the other way and there She creates all the universes, as we call them, bhuvanas, one universe. There are 14 bhuvanas, means there is many, many universes made, make one bhuvana and She creates all these things on the right hand side. Then She goes up and then She descends down creating all the chakras, Adi chakras or the pittas. She comes down, makes all these pittas and then She settles as the Kundalini. But Adi Shakti is not fully the Kundalini. We can say Kundalini is a part of it; the rest of the work is much more than this. So, we call it the residual energy, means after going through all this journey, then She comes round and She goes as Kundalini. Because of this Kundalini and the chakras, She creates an area which we call as the chakras in the body. Now, first She creates these chakras in the head, we call them the pittas of the chakras and then She comes down and creates these chakras which are in the body of the Virata. Now, once this has happened, then She creates human beings, but not directly, through the evolutionary process, She goes through and that's how the evolution starts and then it starts developing from the minute, small little microscopic organisms in the water and then it starts evolving. So, when She creates water and She creates all the universes, She chooses this Mother Earth as the best place to play Her evolutionary process and there She makes this little microscopic thing. Of course, I have written all about it and when My book will be released, you can see that: how first hydrogen, carbon and oxygen and all of these things they are mixed up and how nitrogen comes in to play and how a living process starts. All this I have done it in another book that I am going to write now. I mean, I have mostly finished, but there is some more chakras I have to deal with. Now with this happening, you see, one thing is there, that now, whatever I write, now people won't doubt. They will know it is scientific fact and that's what, whatever I say is a fact. Now to believe in the Mother, Adi Shakti was impossible. Especially, you'll be amazed that Christian religion, some way or other, avoided it, the mentioning of the Mother. Then the Islam, that also avoided the mentioning of the Mother. There's completely negation towards the Mother. But only Indian philosophy had the Mother and the Indians are actually Shakti worshippers. So, this is how it was kept up and brought to this position now that people have got full idea as to Mother principle that has worked out everything. On this Mother principle, in India, people are very sure that it is a Mother who does everything and thus we have in India many, we should say, many swayambhus, means things that are created of the Mother Earth. For example you know in Maharashtra, we have got Mahakali's place, Mahasaraswati, Mahalakshmi and also we have got a place for the Adi Shakti. Some people who have been to Nasik must have seen Chatur Shingi. How many people have you been to Chatur Shingi out of you? It's good. So, this Chatur Shingi represents the Adi Shakti which is the fourth dimension of this power which gives you the ascent and ultimately through Mahalakshmi channel only, you get your realisation. All this is a process, all was created by the power of Adi Shakti. It's a tremendous task. The previous ones were not so difficult because they're for nature to create, it was very easy, the Mother Earth is one with the Adi Shakti, the whole atmosphere is one with the Adi Shakti, all the elements are one with the Adi Shakti. So She could create all that without any difficulties. But when human beings came, they got their freedom. That's the only, I should say, the species which fell into the maya of thinking and of having the ego in them. With this ego a maya worked on them, I should say, and they forgot about the principle that created this universe. They took it for granted. They felt that this is their own right, that they are there, this is their own achievement and they are the owners of everything. This started working in their mind so much that they invaded other countries, they destroyed so many people and they never felt bad about it. All their lives they have been thinking about aggressing others, controlling others and doing all kinds of harmful things. But they never even thought or never did any introspection to see that what we are doing is very, very wrong and it should not be done. Because of the freedom they have, such a turmoil in this world and the people who were in charge of affairs, they were very, very cruel and extremely... had no feelings for the other people. And this happened so many times on this earth. Now, Sahaja Yoga has started. Once Sahaja Yoga has started, we have Sahaja Yogis who are now receiving the blessings of the Adi Shakti directly. But still, I must say, among Sahaja Yogis also, we don't have people whom I would call as very well matured. There are Sahaja Yogis, some of them are just because it is a fashion; maybe it should be better from their angle or from their selfish angle or whatever it is. It's a very wrong thing. If you are in Sahaja Yoga, you must know, now you are responsible for the whole world. You are the only people who have come forward. You are the only people who have achieved something and then at this juncture, you should behave in a manner that behooves a big saint or a realised soul. But sometimes you find them behaving in such a manner, it's shocking sometimes. They have no respect for themselves or for others and their whole attitude is very funny. Some of them are money-oriented, some of them are power-oriented. And those who are power-oriented are more dangerous I think than money-oriented. Because those who are power-oriented try to bring such bad name to Sahaja Yoga. They are very insulting, dominating and horrible people. Their whole attitude is to achieve power in Sahaja Yoga and they try all tricks to achieve that power. But for some time they look all right. After some time, you'll find they'll all disappear from the field of Sahaja Yoga. It's a very big cleansing process going on. You must understand that you have come in the field of very high consciousness where you are in contact with the Divine. Now here, if you behave like ordinary people who have no divinity within them, how long will you continue like this? So, this is very important that you should try to meditate and evolve yourselves and become really, very good Sahaja Yogis. In some places we are very, very lucky. In some countries we are very, very lucky, but in some countries I find the people are just deaf and dumb; they can't understand Sahaja Yoga. For My programme they do come and afterwards they just disappear. This one, I think is also,... Sahaja Yogis are responsible for this, the way they go about, the way they want to do Sahaj work is not Sahaj. Must be something definitely wrong with the whole thing and that's why it's not working out the same way as it is working out in many places. So, I have to tell you that all this is there, that Adi Shakti is there and all this has happened through Adi Shakti. But now, the further work has to be done through you people, because you are the channels, you are the ones who have to transform people. And everybody should understand and know how many people we have given realisation. We have to think of it. What have we done for Sahaja Yoga? Once I was travelling by plane and I met a lady who was sitting next to Me. She was so hot, I couldn't understand. Then she told Me she is a disciple of a guru, very proud of it and she started telling Me all about him. I was amazed that, look at this woman, she hasn't got anything from him and she was just saying: " I had given so much money to him and I have done this thing to him " and all those things. But she had nothing. And despite that, she was talking to Me, a stranger person, about the guru. But in Sahaja Yoga I have seen people are rather shy. They don't want to talk about Sahaja Yoga openly to others, which is a very wrong thing you are doing because you are responsible for this world. You have been given realisation. Of course you are seeking, everything is all right, but all of you must try to give realisation to others. I must say that somehow, men have been more dynamic, working it out. The women in Sahaja Yoga are not yet coming up to that level as they should. They have to be more sensible about it and they have to work it out. You can do it, but only trouble is, I think, they have certain minor problems about which they are worried. Always I get letters from ladies, saying: " This is wrong, that is wrong " , complaining all the time. Then I am so fed up of their letters now that I think they are useless to read them also. So, I have to tell you all that it is important that men, because they are dynamic, women should be much more because they are Shaktis and I am a woman. So I find that the men are more sort of active and dynamic about Sahaja Yoga and I don't know what is the reason why women are not. They can transform so many people; they can do so much good to others, they can bring so much love and compassion, because this love and compassion is a quality of a mother, of a woman and if the women don't have that quality it's useless to be a woman. All the time if you are busy about your useless thing like fashions, or faces and all that, then the time is all wasted. We have a short time now, you got your realisation and you must decide: what have you done so far? what have you achieved so far? But I would say that also in Sahaja Yoga I found that there are all kinds of funny ideas growing. Like certain rituals they will take up, then they prescribe certain rituals, they'll talk about it and a kind of a power orientation is there. They want to oppress others and they want to take over and frighten people and behave in such a manner that, as if they are very good. Some of them start saying that: " Mataji said so. This is Mataji's idea. " By their own power orientation, they manufacture things and talk like that. But ask them: " How many have you given realisation? " First thing you must determine is positively how many you have given realisation. He is just talking about others, criticising others, talking about the defects of Sahaja Yoga, sin in Sahaja Yoga. I would say is still a very preliminary things that have happened before and it should stop now. Now, as it is, once this book is out, all over the world that will be known about our work, will be not challenged any more. But still we have to see for ourselves that if we have achieved this kind of recognition, then we should be up to that, our capability should be up to that. We should not be lagging behind. For example, if you ask some Sahaja Yogis, specially Sahaja Yoginis, they don't know much about Sahaja Yoga; they don't know about chakras, they don't know anything about the deities; nothing they know, how can they be Sahaja Yogis? You have to know all about it. Only thing that you don't realise that it's not outside that you are a Sahaja Yogi, but it is inside. Inside you have to have that kind of an understanding of the chakras and of Sahaja Yoga, how it works, how it helps you. Now, supposing if I am the source of that energy - which you know very well I am - then you achieve yours also a kind of a perfection about dealing with people and bringing them to Sahaja Yoga. It's a very important work you have to do is to bring Sahaja Yogis in Sahaja Yoga. What I find that some people are very much still lagging behind and is very surprising that they live in that country, they are part and parcel of that country and they are not bothered. Under these circumstances, they will be blamed that: " Why didn't you do? Why didn't you find out the ways and methods of convincing at least your country men? " So, Sahaja Yoga is at the brink of growth, cannot grow only with one country or two countries. All the countries have to be brought into Sahaja Yoga. All the people that we could call into Sahaja Yoga will be a very good idea and then we have books to convince people, we have to talk to them about it. But what I find about Sahaja Yogis that once they start spreading Sahaja Yoga, also their ego comes up and it thinks they are very great Sahaja Yogis, they are great leaders, all these kinds of stupid ideas are working into their heads, which is wrong. You have just to stay in a very humble manner. The more you have, the more you become humble, like a tree when laden with fruits bends down. In the same way, you have to be very humble, but that humility is sometimes very difficult because the culture of the West is not humble culture. It's a culture of aggression, culture of domination. So far they have been... they think because of domination they could go all over the world, they could achieve so many things. What have they achieved? Nothing! In their own countries, if you see, there is drug addiction. Why should people take to drug so much? Then all kinds of sinful things they do, which I don't want to mention, but you know what they are doing, which in India, which is a poorer country, one cannot even think about it. Such things are happening around you. So, find out what's wrong, where and how you can correct these things, if you can help them. Actually, now as I told you, I'm going to start some sort of organisation that will do good to human beings, but you all can join also, you can also start in your own countries something like that. But first you have to get rid of your ego. That once happens to you, then only your attention will be steady. And this ego is very simple for you, because you worship Christ. And the Christ is the one who was settled on the Agnya chakra. You all worship Christ, but that humility of Christ is not there. Just the opposite of it. It has happened everywhere, that whatever is preached in the religion, people did just the opposite of it. For example, Hindu religion, I would say Hindu philosophy, is that in everybody resides the spirit. Now, in everybody if there is spirit, then how can you have different caste systems and how can you have somebody higher and lower? Other way round, now Christ has said, that: " You have to forgive, forgive everyone and you have to humble down. " And that's what one finds, that among Christians they don't know humility. They have no idea of humility. Men are like that, women are like that, and the men and women, then, go on fighting. There is no question of anybody being humble, peaceful and all that. So, it is very artificially they are showing off that they are very philanthropist and all that, but inside in their heart, I don't find there is any love, there is any compassion in the real sense of the word. So, when we are dealing with reality, you have to know that we cannot just go on doing things which are artificial, which are befooling others, but we have to really become that. Once you become that, when you are really like that, then only you have done the job for which you are born at this juncture of blossom times. Otherwise, you could have been born earlier and could have been something different. But you are specially born, so you realise your value, you realise yourself what you are and try to understand, have self-respect and try to do things which are very important as Sahaja Yogis. Of course you are doing your job, you are doing other things, but you will be amazed, if you do the work of Sahaja Yoga, you'll find more time for everything. Once you start doing God's work, God does your work and that's how you will be amazed how you get so much time to do the right thing. Now, it is for you to go back and introspect, see for yourself. Now, the Adi Shakti Herself has come, but I am very simple, I am very simple to look at. In My behaviour, I am very, very humble and people take Me for granted. I don't do anything, I don't want to punish you, I don't want to do anything, but you yourself get punished, you yourself become useless, if you do not look after yourself and grow yourself. This finding is so great and this man had never known Me before. He is very learned, but he is very humble and what he told Me that, just imagine: " I am sitting before the Creator of this world and still I am very normal. " I said: " What should happen to you? What do you think? " He said: " Mother, it is a big thing to realise that I am sitting before You and that You are here. " I said: " It's good that you don't feel My presence so oppressive, so dominating, I'm very happy. " He says: " I just feel the love, I just feel the compassion. " That's what it is. We have to know that we should just have love and compassion. Compassion and love for ourselves in the way that we should not harm anybody's heart. To say something, to hurt someone is very sinful. But some people enjoy that very much; they think they are very clever, it is not so. When you talk to someone, you must say something which is very soothing and good. Another thing is the temper of a person, is the temper like, the slightest thing here and there, they get into temper. Now, this has to be told this temper that: " You should keep quiet, I have nothing to do with you! " That is one thing. Then there are people who are very subtly, I should say, power-oriented, very subtle. They have tricks of the trade by which they know how to control others. What are you going to gain out of it? What is your gain? By doing all these things, what will happen? In these worldly things, you might be a little bit popular, a little bit having a position or something, but what is it after all? That is not going to help you. What is going to help you the most is to make yourself a perfect channel for Sahaja Yoga, to be a perfect channel. In that, you will be amazed how you'll be helped. So, I would say for you people, who are in the West, I would say you must develop humility. It's very important. I was surprised in Russia itself, the people are not only humble, but such dedication, such dedication, unbelievable! They don't even raise their eyes to Me. I don't know how they got this idea. This is not after the discovering, but even before that. They were so nice and so humble and so full of love. And even the children brought Me small, small presents, you know, just to give Me, so sweetly. This is something surprising how these people in Russia have achieved that capability to become. And I think, in the West, Russia is the country which will achieve a very great height in spirituality. And that means they will be the most powerful people. Let us see what you are doing in your own country and how you are going to work it out. There is so many things you can do, very easily, if you see for yourself that you are the instrument of the Divine. And then your temperament will change, the nature will change, you'll become a very, very sweet person, likeable person and everybody will think that this is a saint walking around. So, that's all I have to say about this. Whatever is the discovery is not a discovery for Me, but a discovery for the whole world, and I am sure once it is established and is exposed to the whole world, things will change for you and for Me also. May God bless you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Dear Jagbir and All, i don't think anyone else has received quite as much widespread 'hooh-hah' as you have received, since obtaining permission from Shri Mataji to write your book. (Btw. i am glad Gerlinde brought up this query and that you have explained what has happened.) Mistakes can be made, and then maybe they are not mistakes, the way they turn out in the end. But what i am replying about is, have John Noyce, or Alan Wherry, or anyone else, ever had so much opposition from the organisation for what they have written, or are writing? i mean, do Sahaja Yogis demand to see " written evidence " of approval from Shri Mataji for what JN or AW have written? Or do they just expect it from you, Jagbir? This brings to mind the difficulty that Dr. Mary Ann Ghaffurian had in getting Shri Mataji's final approval/blessing at Burwood, N.S.W. for the book she had finally finished writing, after many years of very hard work. The difficulty was not in getting Shri Mataji to approve/bless her book. The difficulty was getting into the building in the first place! Some of the narrow-minded yogis of Mary Ann's local collective in Melbourne (of whom John Noyce is a prominent member) - had formed an actual physical barrier, to try and prevent Mary Ann from even entering! i recall that Mary Ann was a yogi who demanded the truth. Maybe this did not always endear her to others. Maybe this caused a little consternation in others, at times. Maybe some of the yogis thought that Mary Ann was not attending the local collective regularly enough. But if you are a very truthful person, and your local collective is having problems with the truth, are you going to attend as regularly as you would, if they were truthful? i say not! So, i put it down to lack of truthfulness and honesty, as to why some of the yogis ended up barring Mary Ann from presenting her book to Shri Mataji. In the end, Dr. Mary Ann came back to Burwood Ashram many hours later (as i recall she told me). If memory also recalls, i think Dr. Bohdan Sheyovich got involved. From Mary Ann's own account, it was Chris Kyriacou who finally ushered her to present her book to Shri Mataji. But what a rigamarole it all is, when people are not being honest and truthful! Here is the URL where you can read about Mary Ann's gracious rendering of what happened. She wisely leaves out the most horrible details, but since i have filled them in to the best of my recollection for the sake of posterity, you can read 'between-the-lines' and see it was a struggle to get her book approved - even though Shri Mataji wanted it written and published; post-haste! (i remember Mary Ann telling me how Shri Mataji wanted her to get it written and out earlier, but that in spite of working day and night on it, it was such a feat. It just seemed to take so long!) But some yogis were being duplicitous, i.e. " against what Shri Mataji wanted " . Mary Ann, however, knew that the Adi Shakti would see her through! She got her final approval/blessing on the book. Here, then, is the account (scroll down to the 2nd mention of " SEARCH FOR ORIGIN " ): /message/6172?unwrap=1 & var=1 & \ l=1 In conclusion, i am trying to highlight this 'thread of oppositional behaviour' that runs through the organisation of Sahaja Yoga, that when Shri Mataji approves of a book - that they can go against that! It hasn't just happened to Jagbir. It has happened to Dr. Mary Ann too. And i am wondering what therefore, happened to this 'Anatoli Akimov'? Maybe, he was opposed too! If anyone can find out what happened to him, it would be most appreciated! i would also like to know: " Have John Noyce or Alan Wherry ever faced such opposition when they've tried to get approval for what they've wanted to write? Have they ever seen the need to show " written permission " from Shri Mataji? Or is it a rule for one and not the other? Shri Mataji never said you needed " written permission " did She? " i also ask: " Where is the sacred trust that Sahaja Yogis have in each other and in Shri Mataji, whereby when Shri Mataji in front of Sahaja Yogis, as has happened with regard to Jagbir's book - says to go ahead with it, that then there is all this opposition? It just doesn't make sense! When Shri Mataji has given so many " verbal permissions " for Jagbir's book, in front of other Sahaja Yogis too, in my books that is equivalent to any kind of a " written permission! " If Sahaja Yogis have such short-term-memories, is it really the Adi Shakti's fault that they can't remember what She said? LOL! Is that why everybody wants things " in writing " ? Or is it just John Noyce and Alan Wherry that want things " in writing " ? Did John in the Book of Revelations, have to get approval from Jesus " in writing " to write his revelations?! Don't the revelations that the " special children " have given, stand on their own two feet? Has anyone from the Sahaja Yoga organisation actually " seriously tried to challenge " any of the evidence that the Adi Shakti has given? Since they don't believe in it, why aren't they honest, and say where the mystical evidence " falls short " ? (Jagbir, you recently said that you would like that answer too!) Otherwise, it is just the same case, of saying things, and not backing them up with evidence. If that is the case, i again repeat that the Sahaja Yoga organisation is a dishonest organisation - and that it is only the " Living Organisation of Sahaja Yoga " , which by its very Essence, is the Absolute Truth that nobody can organise! regards to all, violet , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > Dear Gerlinde and all, > > i wish to clarify your question on the forum as others may have the > same question on their mind. > > Yes, a few years ago after the book was finished Dr. Balwinder did > point the same too. i read that speech of Shri Mataji again and > realized that She may have been talking about Akimov's book. > > Subsequently i began erasing all references of the quote to SHRI ADI > SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF GOD. i could not do the same for the Table of > Contents as the book was already done, and i left the TOC as it was. > > At that time i was pretty sure that Shri Mataji was referring to SHRI > ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF GOD due to the sheer breath and depth of > the Devi's revelations in the Sahasrara and Her triggering of the > Sure Signs of the Last Judgment and Al-Qiyamah. i could not > understand then how, after Akimov's book is published, " all over the > world that will be known about our work, will be not challenged any > more " . Today i am definite that has not happened, and is not going to > ever happen. (i don't even know if Akimov's book exists in the first > place.) So you have to forgive me for assuming that Shri Mataji was > talking about my book. > > There is another reason too. Prior to seeking the physical Shri > Mataji's permission i sought that of the eternal Adi Shakti in the > Sahasrara to publish the book. The Devi agreed. So naturally i > assumed that as Her incarnation, Shri Mataji is referring to that > too. Moreover i had already sought Her permission in Toronto twice - > first in a clothing store and the second in Her hotel suite where > Shri Mataji told the leaders and SYs present that permission had > already been granted previously, and there was no need to ask again. > This second audience with Shri Mataji was just prior to the 1998 Adi > Shakti puja at Cabella, Italy. So it was only natural for me to > assume that Shri Mataji was talking about SHRI ADI SHAKTI: THE > KINGDOM OF GOD. > > Today, more the ever before, that 'error' of mine only seems to be > becoming more true than false. i hope the Devi within over time proves > that " all over the world that will be known about our work, will be > not challenged any more " . After all, SHRI ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF > GOD records all that She has revealed to humanity. So far no > religious organization, priest, pastor, reverend, bishop, pope, > rabbi, cleric, imam, mullah, shaikh, ulema, ayatollah, guru, swami, > pandit, brahmin, acarya, bhagwan, granthi, giani, lama, monk, dalai > lamas or false guru buster has challenged it. One day all over the > world _that_ will be known. May the Devi prove that my deep faith and > conviction was never an error. > > regards to all, > > jagbir > > > > On Feb 3, 2008 8:25 PM, Gerlinde Sattler > <gerlindesattler wrote: > > Dear Jagbir, > > Recently I read the puja talk of > > [ADI SHAKTI PUJA - Being Sahaja Yogis, you are responsible for the > whole world [this phrase is on the tape cover of my personal tape ] > > 21 june 1998 - Cabella Ligure (Italia).......... > > which I've copied in its entirety further down and in which the > following quote is to be found: > > " Now, as it is, once this book is out, all over the world that will > be known about our work, will be not challenged any more. But still > we have to see for ourselves that if we have achieved this kind of > recognition, then we should be up to that, our capability should be > up to that. " > > I recalled this quote from the first time I had encountered the > adishakti.org site, because it made a great impression on me as it > concerned Shri Mataji giving you the permission to publish your ADI > SHAKTI: KINGDOM OF GOD book in the Third and Final Permission To > Publish: " Once This Book Is Out . . . " 120 under the > http://www.adishakti.org/table_of_contents.htm > TABLE OF CONTENTS also found below. > > Why I'm mentioning this to you is that the source of this quote [shri > Mataji Nirmala Devi, You Must Develop Humility, Shri Adi Shakti Puja, > Cabella, Italy – May 21, 1998] is different from the puja talk I just > read. [ADI SHAKTI PUJA, Being Sahaja Yogis, you are responsible for > the whole world 21 June 1998, Cabella, Ligure, Italia] Perhaps this > same quote was found in both sources, and if so, that should, I > believe, be clarified for others wishing to negate your work. > > One added item of importance to clarify is this: > > In the June 21, 1998 ADI SHAKTI PUJA in which an intro by Guido Lanza > was made about Anatoli Akimov and his upcoming book, another > reference was made by Shri Mataji about Her Own book and Akimov's > book in Her Puja talk. To which of these books was HER reference made > in HER following quote: > > " Now, as it is, once this book is out, all over the world that will be > known about our work, will be not challenged any more. But still we > have to see for ourselves that if we have achieved this kind of > recognition, then we should be up to that, our capability should be > up to that. " > > - Anatoli Akimov, Shri Mataji, OR Adi Shakti:Kingdom of God? > > > I'm concerned that the present quote [ Third and Final Permission To > Publish: " Once This Book Is Out . . . " 120 under the > http://www.adishakti.org/table_of_contents.htm TABLE OF CONTENTS also > found below] which seemingly points to Shri Mataji referring to your > book, may be interpreted as erroneous, since it could also be > referring to Akimov's book or Shri Mataji's Own book as you can > verify for yourself in the following and in the continued Puja talk > found further down this page: > > ADI SHAKTI PUJA > > 21 june 1998 - Cabella Ligure (Italia) > > [introduction by Guido Lanza, regarding a scientific conference in > Moscow.] > > " And he [Akimov] has already written a book in Russia which will be > translated in English and he is preparing a new book on which of > course the major topic will be this unique discovery. So now we have > somebody who has scientifically proved what Shri Mataji is. " > (applause) > > Perhaps I'm needlessly concerning myself about this, but I feel that > this is an area that could easily be misconstrued as Shri Mataji NOT > having given permission to publish the ADI SHAKTI:KINGDOM OF GOD at > all, but rather that SHE is referring to AKIMOV's book, since much of > the puja talk seems to refer back to Akimov's discovery and the puja > talk does not give mention, as far as I can see, to ADI SHAKTI :THE > KINGDOM OF GOD at all. > > Pardon me if I'm wrong, but I rather think it would be preferable and > indeed even necessary to have no perceived ambiguity here. > > Warm regards, > > Gerlinde > > --------------- > > > 88888888888888888888888888888888888 > > > Please continue to view the highlighted areas. This should help to > clarify what I'm trying to say. > > > http://www.adishakti.org/table_of_contents.htm > TABLE OF CONTENTS > > Preface 12 > The First Permission From The Spirit Of The Living God In The > Sahasrara 13 > " I Am The Adi Shakti . . . You People Have To Prove It That I Am > THAT! " 15 > The Ancient Beings Are Coming! 16 > " The Falsehood Of All Outside Religions . . . Will Be Exposed " 17 > " For Standing Up For The Truth Of Any Cause Is The War Of Dharma " 19 > The Material Marathon 20 > A 'divine' mother?!!! 21 > " I Feel Peaceful. " 22 > A 'Cool Breeze'?! A Cool Breeze?!! (Or the Breath Of God > Almighty?!!!) 25 > " The First Doubt Which Is Very Common Is, " Who Is Mataji? " " 26 > TABLE OF CONTENTS 28 > > PART ONE > Chapter 1 > > The Universal Question: Why Are We Here On Earth? 47 > " How Does One Meet A True Guru? " 48 > O Speak Almighty God! 50 > " JOIN SHRI MATAJI! " 51 > The Manna Monsoon Of Many Moons 55 > The Decadent Decades 57 > Satnaam: The Imperishable Word 61 > " Thou Art The Pristine Spirit . . . Which Illuminates And Breaks The > Self-Hypnotism " 62 > " In Thee Is My Only Haven And Refuge . . . O Bhavani! " 64 > Meaning Of Avatar Or Incarnation 65 > " The Highest Manifestation Of God Almighty Is As Mother " 70 > " It Is For The Benevolence Of The Whole Human Race " 71 > " First Is Self-Realization . . . What is God-Realization? " 72 > " Tell All The Nations And Tell All The People All Over The Great > Message " 76 > The Spiritual Monsoon Begins 77 > Earth Is A Conscious, Living Mother 78 > Mother Earth: The Womb Of The Universe 81 > The Woman Of Great Beauty 84 > Overriding Fundamental Difference 85 > Swami Satyananda: " Who Will Give Me The Proper Answer? " 86 > The Initial Rejection 89 > " You Have Seen Photographs Of Angels Around You " 90 > " Assuredly, What Ye Are Promised Must Come To Pass " 92 > " We Have Done Our Job Here " 93 > " It Is Not A Blind Faith! " 94 > " Sure, You Should Tell Them. " 95 > " In The Age of Aquarius, Even The Skeptics Will Believe " 96 > " Now You Have Entered Into The Kingdom Of God " 97 > The First Permission In The Sahasrara 98 > The Five Divine Days 99 > The Golden Goddess Of The Sahasrara 100 > " This Is The First Time In History . . . " 101 > But Why A Religious Pariah? 102 > Evolution: The Relentless Rebirth Of Species 104 > But How Does God Almighty Know Everything? 106 > The Second Permission 107 > " They Do Not Know From Where They Get This Knowledge " 111 > He Is A Child Of Darkness 114 > They Must Leave Her School! 115 > They Will Be Expelled! 116 > We Will Leave, But Not Withdraw 117 > Third and Final Permission To Publish: " Once This Book Is > Out . . . " 120 > > > CONTENTS:- > > PART ONE: > The Dawn of the Divine Millennium > > PART TWO: > And the Arrival Of The Kingdom Of God > > PART THREE: > The Morning Of The Spiritual Monsoon > > PART FOUR: > Lord Jesus Christ, The Universal Saviour > The Antichrist And The Prince Of Carnal Life > The Book Of Revelation > > PART FIVE: > Shri Buddha, The Awakened One > The Tao of Shri Lao-Tzu > The Aykaa Mayee of Guru Nanak > > PART SIX: > Prophet Muhammad, The Messenger of God > The Holy Qur'an, Revelation Par Excellence > The Sure Signs of Allah > The Good News of Qiyamah > Ibis The Great Deceiver > > PART SEVEN: > The Missing Years > The New Age Pimps > The Prophecies of Nostradamus > > " Once this book is out all over the world, it will be known about our > Work. We'll not be challenged any more. But still we have to see for > ourselves, that if we have this kind of recognition or not…our > capabilities should be up to that. " > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > You Must Develop Humility, Shri Adi Shakti Puja > Cabella, Italy – May 21, 1998 > > Welcome to the Millennium of the Spirit, the Millennium of the Great > Adi Shakti Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. > > Merry Christmas and Peace on Earth. > > Jagbir Singh > > > > ................................................ > > The title here - Being Sahaja Yogis, you are...... comes from the > tape I have, Jagbir. > > > [ADI SHAKTI PUJA - Being Sahaja Yogis, you are responsible for the > whole world > > 21 june 1998 - Cabella Ligure (Italia)........... > > Now, as it is, once this book is out, all over the world that will > be known about our work, will be not challenged any more. But still > we have to see for ourselves that if we have achieved this kind of > recognition, then we should be up to that, our capability should be > up to that. We should not be lagging behind. For example, if you ask > some Sahaja Yogis, specially Sahaja Yoginis, they don't know much > about Sahaja Yoga; they don't know about chakras, they don't know > anything about the deities; nothing they know, how can they be Sahaja > Yogis? You have to know all about it. > > Only thing that you don't realise that it's not outside that you are > a Sahaja Yogi, but it is inside. Inside you have to have that kind of > an understanding of the chakras and of Sahaja Yoga, how it works, how > it helps you. > > Now, supposing if I am the source of that energy - which you know > very well I am - then you achieve yours also a kind of a perfection > about dealing with people and bringing them to Sahaja Yoga. It's a > very important work you have to do is to bring Sahaja Yogis in Sahaja > Yoga. ] > > > > *************** > > > > ADI SHAKTI PUJA > > 21 june 1998 - Cabella Ligure (Italia) > > [introduction by Guido Lanza, regarding a scientific conference in > Moscow.] > > Shri Mataji has asked me to share with you what was the last > experience of Her Divine visit in Russia. And I must say it was > really a dramatic breakthrough, because in the scientific conference > She had in Moscow, there was the participation of a very well known > scientist, a physicist. > > His name is Anatoli Akimov, he is very well known all over Russia and > all over the world also. > > And he came with a theory and he has been studying this theory for a > few years, which is based on the vacuum body and he studied something > like the torsion fields and he could explain in a very clear way, in > a very scientific way, the vibrations that Shri Mataji is emitting. > > So, at the beginning he was studying some Yogis which were meditating > and he could notice that they were emitting vibrations, there was an > aura around them. But then, when he came to Shri Mataji, when he saw > Her pictures, the miraculous pictures, then he could really find out > what it was and he said that in Her case, it was something which is > infinite, which is unlimited. > > And also it was very nice, because at one point he said: " As a man of > science, I have to admit that all the scientists that so far made > some exceptional, unique discovery..., I have to admit that all this > did not come through some scientific process, through the brain, we > can say. But it came only through some divine inspiration. We can > mention Newton, we can mention Einstein and so on. " And he > said: " Also in my case, when I was studying and working on this > theory, at some point when I saw the picture of Shri Mataji, then I > got the inspiration. " > > And then now Shri Mataji has invited him in September to come. And he > has already written a book in Russia which will be translated in > English and he is preparing a new book on which of course the major > topic will be this unique discovery. So now we have somebody who has > scientifically proved what Shri Mataji is. (applause) > > [start of Shri Mataji's talk] > > In Russia, the people, somehow are very open-minded. Not only that, > the scientists especially are very open-minded and were suppressed > very much. So, they tried to find out the subtler things, not only > finding out about chemicals or about some physical properties of the > light, but they wanted to go into the subtler side and they had found > out already a great deal of knowledge about the auras around the > hands, auras around the body. They had done so much of research and > it was accepted all over the world their findings. > > Now, this gentleman was a specialist, I think, because he is a very > well known, very, very well-known person and he is holding a very big > position. He was saying that he has to run 150 organisations, very > humble and very nice person. And when he came out with this > discovery, I was happy in a way, because scientifically if it is > proved, then nobody can challenge it. He has already written a book > with all the algebraic complications of what he wanted to prove. And > he said that there is a vacuum beyond the consciousness. There is a > vacuum and in that vacuum only, you can know the reality and once all > this becomes the reality, it is a science and that's how it is made > into science. > > He showed so many of My photographs, specially the one where a lot of > energy is coming out of My Sahasrara when we were on a boat. So, he > said: " She is the source of all the cosmic energy. " And that's what > Adi Shakti is. She is the One who creates everything. > > The whole atmosphere that we know of is very artificial, but when you > understand what She has done, it's the first thing She does is to - > and in My book also I have written down about it - but I would like > to tell you that Her first, we should say, manifestation is on the > left hand side. That's the Mahakali's manifestation. So, She comes on > the Mahakali system, the left hand side and that is where She created > Ganesha. Shri Ganesha is created because His purity, His innocence > and auspiciousness, this had to be created before She created the > universe. > > So, first thing She does is to create Shri Ganesha and She settles > down. Then She goes up, of course, in the body of the Virata and then > She goes round and goes up on the right hand side, in the other way > and there She creates all the universes, as we call them, bhuvanas, > one universe. There are 14 bhuvanas, means there is many, many > universes made, make one bhuvana and She creates all these things on > the right hand side. Then She goes up and then She descends down > creating all the chakras, Adi chakras or the pittas. She comes down, > makes all these pittas and then She settles as the Kundalini. > > But Adi Shakti is not fully the Kundalini. We can say Kundalini is a > part of it; the rest of the work is much more than this. So, we call > it the residual energy, means after going through all this journey, > then She comes round and She goes as Kundalini. Because of this > Kundalini and the chakras, She creates an area which we call as the > chakras in the body. > > Now, first She creates these chakras in the head, we call them the > pittas of the chakras and then She comes down and creates these > chakras which are in the body of the Virata. Now, once this has > happened, then She creates human beings, but not directly, through > the evolutionary process, She goes through and that's how the > evolution starts and then it starts developing from the minute, small > little microscopic organisms in the water and then it starts > evolving. So, when She creates water and She creates all the > universes, She chooses this Mother Earth as the best place to play > Her evolutionary process and there She makes this little microscopic > thing. > > Of course, I have written all about it and when My book will be > released, you can see that: how first hydrogen, carbon and oxygen and > all of these things they are mixed up and how nitrogen comes in to > play and how a living process starts. All this I have done it in > another book that I am going to write now. I mean, I have mostly > finished, but there is some more chakras I have to deal with. Now > with this happening, you see, one thing is there, that now, whatever > I write, now people won't doubt. They will know it is scientific fact > and that's what, whatever I say is a fact. > > Now to believe in the Mother, Adi Shakti was impossible. Especially, > you'll be amazed that Christian religion, some way or other, avoided > it, the mentioning of the Mother. Then the Islam, that also avoided > the mentioning of the Mother. There's completely negation towards the > Mother. But only Indian philosophy had the Mother and the Indians are > actually Shakti worshippers. So, this is how it was kept up and > brought to this position now that people have got full idea as to > Mother principle that has worked out everything. > > On this Mother principle, in India, people are very sure that it is a > Mother who does everything and thus we have in India many, we should > say, many swayambhus, means things that are created of the Mother > Earth. For example you know in Maharashtra, we have got Mahakali's > place, Mahasaraswati, Mahalakshmi and also we have got a place for > the Adi Shakti. > > Some people who have been to Nasik must have seen Chatur Shingi. How > many people have you been to Chatur Shingi out of you? It's good. So, > this Chatur Shingi represents the Adi Shakti which is the fourth > dimension of this power which gives you the ascent and ultimately > through Mahalakshmi channel only, you get your realisation. > > All this is a process, all was created by the power of Adi Shakti. > It's a tremendous task. The previous ones were not so difficult > because they're for nature to create, it was very easy, the Mother > Earth is one with the Adi Shakti, the whole atmosphere is one with > the Adi Shakti, all the elements are one with the Adi Shakti. So She > could create all that without any difficulties. > > But when human beings came, they got their freedom. That's the only, > I should say, the species which fell into the maya of thinking and of > having the ego in them. With this ego a maya worked on them, I should > say, and they forgot about the principle that created this universe. > They took it for granted. They felt that this is their own right, > that they are there, this is their own achievement and they are the > owners of everything. > > This started working in their mind so much that they invaded other > countries, they destroyed so many people and they never felt bad > about it. All their lives they have been thinking about aggressing > others, controlling others and doing all kinds of harmful things. But > they never even thought or never did any introspection to see that > what we are doing is very, very wrong and it should not be done. > Because of the freedom they have, such a turmoil in this world and > the people who were in charge of affairs, they were very, very cruel > and extremely... had no feelings for the other people. And this > happened so many times on this earth. > > Now, Sahaja Yoga has started. Once Sahaja Yoga has started, we have > Sahaja Yogis who are now receiving the blessings of the Adi Shakti > directly. But still, I must say, among Sahaja Yogis also, we don't > have people whom I would call as very well matured. There are Sahaja > Yogis, some of them are just because it is a fashion; maybe it should > be better from their angle or from their selfish angle or whatever it > is. It's a very wrong thing. If you are in Sahaja Yoga, you must > know, now you are responsible for the whole world. You are the only > people who have come forward. You are the only people who have > achieved something and then at this juncture, you should behave in a > manner that behooves a big saint or a realised soul. > > But sometimes you find them behaving in such a manner, it's shocking > sometimes. They have no respect for themselves or for others and > their whole attitude is very funny. Some of them are money-oriented, > some of them are power-oriented. And those who are power-oriented are > more dangerous I think than money-oriented. Because those who are > power-oriented try to bring such bad name to Sahaja Yoga. They are > very insulting, dominating and horrible people. Their whole attitude > is to achieve power in Sahaja Yoga and they try all tricks to achieve > that power. But for some time they look all right. After some time, > you'll find they'll all disappear from the field of Sahaja Yoga. It's > a very big cleansing process going on. > > You must understand that you have come in the field of very high > consciousness where you are in contact with the Divine. Now here, if > you behave like ordinary people who have no divinity within them, how > long will you continue like this? So, this is very important that you > should try to meditate and evolve yourselves and become really, very > good Sahaja Yogis. In some places we are very, very lucky. In some > countries we are very, very lucky, but in some countries I find the > people are just deaf and dumb; they can't understand Sahaja Yoga. For > My programme they do come and afterwards they just disappear. This > one, I think is also,... Sahaja Yogis are responsible for this, the > way they go about, the way they want to do Sahaj work is not Sahaj. > Must be something definitely wrong with the whole thing and that's > why it's not working out the same way as it is working out in many > places. > > So, I have to tell you that all this is there, that Adi Shakti is > there and all this has happened through Adi Shakti. But now, the > further work has to be done through you people, because you are the > channels, you are the ones who have to transform people. And > everybody should understand and know how many people we have given > realisation. We have to think of it. What have we done for Sahaja > Yoga? > > Once I was travelling by plane and I met a lady who was sitting next > to Me. She was so hot, I couldn't understand. Then she told Me she is > a disciple of a guru, very proud of it and she started telling Me all > about him. I was amazed that, look at this woman, she hasn't got > anything from him and she was just saying: " I had given so much money > to him and I have done this thing to him " and all those things. But > she had nothing. And despite that, she was talking to Me, a stranger >; person, about the guru. > >; But in Sahaja Yoga I have seen people are rather shy. They don't want > to talk about Sahaja Yoga openly to others, which is a very wrong > thing you are doing because you are responsible for this world. You > have been given realisation. Of course you are seeking, everything is > all right, but all of you must try to give realisation to others. I > must say that somehow, men have been more dynamic, working it out. > The women in Sahaja Yoga are not yet coming up to that level as they > should. They have to be more sensible about it and they have to work > it out. You can do it, but only trouble is, I think, they have > certain minor problems about which they are worried. > > Always I get letters from ladies, saying: " This is wrong, that is > wrong " , complaining all the time. Then I am so fed up of their > letters now that I think they are useless to read them also. > > So, I have to tell you all that it is important that men, because > they are dynamic, women should be much more because they are Shaktis > and I am a woman. So I find that the men are more sort of active and > dynamic about Sahaja Yoga and I don't know what is the reason why > women are not. They can transform so many people; they can do so much > good to others, they can bring so much love and compassion, because > this love and compassion is a quality of a mother, of a woman and if > the women don't have that quality it's useless to be a woman. All the > time if you are busy about your useless thing like fashions, or faces > and all that, then the time is all wasted. > > We have a short time now, you got your realisation and you must > decide: what have you done so far? what have you achieved so far? > > But I would say that also in Sahaja Yoga I found that there are all > kinds of funny ideas growing. Like certain rituals they will take up, > then they prescribe certain rituals, they'll talk about it and a kind > of a power orientation is there. They want to oppress others and they > want to take over and frighten people and behave in such a manner > that, as if they are very good. Some of them start saying > that: " Mataji said so. This is Mataji's idea. " By their own power > orientation, they manufacture things and talk like that. But ask > them: " How many have you given realisation? " First thing you must > determine is positively how many you have given realisation. He is > just talking about others, criticising others, talking about the > defects of Sahaja Yoga, sin in Sahaja Yoga. I would say is still > a very preliminary things that have happened before and it should > stop now. > > Now, as it is, once this book is out, all over the world that will be > known about our work, will be not challenged any more. But still we > have to see for ourselves that if we have achieved this kind of > recognition, then we should be up to that, our capability should be > up to that. We should not be lagging behind. For example, if you ask > some Sahaja Yogis, specially Sahaja Yoginis, they don't know much > about Sahaja Yoga; they don't know about chakras, they don't know > anything about the deities; nothing they know, how can they be Sahaja > Yogis? You have to know all about it. > > Only thing that you don't realise that it's not outside that you are > a Sahaja Yogi, but it is inside. Inside you have to have that kind of > an understanding of the chakras and of Sahaja Yoga, how it works, how > it helps you. > > Now, supposing if I am the source of that energy - which you know > very well I am - then you achieve yours also a kind of a perfection > about dealing with people and bringing them to Sahaja Yoga. It's a > very important work you have to do is to bring Sahaja Yogis in Sahaja > Yoga. > > What I find that some people are very much still lagging behind and > is very surprising that they live in that country, they are part and > parcel of that country and they are not bothered. Under these > circumstances, they will be blamed that: " Why didn't you do? Why > didn't you find out the ways and methods of convincing at least your > country men? " > > So, Sahaja Yoga is at the brink of growth, cannot grow only with one > > country or two countries. All the countries have to be brought into > Sahaja Yoga. All the people that we could call into Sahaja Yoga will > be a very good idea and then we have books to convince people, we > have to talk to them about it. > > But what I find about Sahaja Yogis that once they start spreading > Sahaja Yoga, also their ego comes up and it thinks they are very > great Sahaja Yogis, they are great leaders, all these kinds of stupid > ideas are working into their heads, which is wrong. You have just to > stay in a very humble manner. The more you have, the more you become > humble, like a tree when laden with fruits bends down. In the same > way, you have to be very humble, but that humility is sometimes very > difficult because the culture of the West is not humble culture. It's > a culture of aggression, culture of domination. So far they have > been... they think because of domination they could go all over the > world, they could achieve so many things. What have they achieved? > Nothing! In their own countries, if you see, there is drug addiction. > Why should people take to drug so much? Then all kinds of sinful > things they do, which I don't want to mention, but you know what > they are doing, which in India, which is a poorer country, one cannot > even think about it. Such things are happening around you. So, find > out what's wrong, where and how you can correct these things, if you > can help them. > > Actually, now as I told you, I'm going to start some sort of > organisation that will do good to human beings, but you all can join > also, you can also start in your own countries something like that. > But first you have to get rid of your ego. That once happens to you, > then only your attention will be steady. And this ego is very simple > for you, because you worship Christ. And the Christ is the one who > was settled on the Agnya chakra. You all worship Christ, but that > humility of Christ is not there. Just the opposite of it. It has > happened everywhere, that whatever is preached in the religion, > people did just the opposite of it. For example, Hindu religion, I > would say Hindu philosophy, is that in everybody resides the > spirit. Now, in everybody if there is spirit, then how can you have > different caste systems and how can you have somebody higher and > lower? > > Other way round, now Christ has said, that: " You have to forgive, > forgive everyone and you have to humble down. " And that's what one > finds, that among Christians they don't know humility. They have no > idea of humility. Men are like that, women are like that, and the men > and women, then, go on fighting. There is no question of anybody > being humble, peaceful and all that. So, it is very artificially they > are showing off that they are very philanthropist and all that, but > inside in their heart, I don't find there is any love, there is any > compassion in the real sense of the word. > > So, when we are dealing with reality, you have to know that we cannot > just go on doing things which are artificial, which are befooling > others, but we have to really become that. Once you become that, when > you are really like that, then only you have done the job for which > you are born at this juncture of blossom times. Otherwise, you could > have been born earlier and could have been something different. But > you are specially born, so you realise your value, you realise > yourself what you are and try to understand, have self-respect and > try to do things which are very important as Sahaja Yogis. Of course > you are doing your job, you are doing other things, but you will be > amazed, if you do the work of Sahaja Yoga, you'll find more time for > everything. Once you start doing God's work, God does your work and > that's how you will be amazed how you get so much time to do the > right thing. > > Now, it is for you to go back and introspect, see for yourself. Now, > the Adi Shakti Herself has come, but I am very simple, I am very > simple to look at. In My behaviour, I am very, very humble and people > take Me for granted. I don't do anything, I don't want to punish you, > I don't want to do anything, but you yourself get punished, you > yourself become useless, if you do not look after yourself and grow > yourself. > > This finding is so great and this man had never known Me before. He > is very learned, but he is very humble and what he told Me that, just > imagine: " I am sitting before the Creator of this world and still I > am very normal. " I said: " What should happen to you? What do you > think? " He said: " Mother, it is a big thing to realise that I am > sitting before You and that You are here. " I said: " It's good that > you don't feel My presence so oppressive, so dominating, I'm very > happy. " He says: " I just feel the love, I just feel the compassion. " > That's what it is. We have to know that we should just have love and > compassion. Compassion and love for ourselves in the way that we > should not harm anybody's heart. To say something, to hurt someone is > very sinful. But some people enjoy that very much; they think they > are very clever, it is not so. When you talk to someone, you must say > something which is very soothing and good. > > Another thing is the temper of a person, is the temper like, the > slightest thing here and there, they get into temper. Now, this has > to be told this temper that: " You should keep quiet, I have nothing > to do with you! " That is one thing. Then there are people who are > very subtly, I should say, power-oriented, very subtle. They have > tricks of the trade by which they know how to control others. What > are you going to gain out of it? What is your gain? By doing all > these things, what will happen? In these worldly things, you might be > a little bit popular, a little bit having a position or something, > but what is it after all? That is not going to help you. > > What is going to help you the most is to make yourself a perfect > channel for Sahaja Yoga, to be a perfect channel. In that, you will > be amazed how you'll be helped. So, I would say for you people, who > are in the West, I would say you must develop humility. It's very > important. > > I was surprised in Russia itself, the people are not only humble, but > such dedication, such dedication, unbelievable! They don't even raise > their eyes to Me. I don't know how they got this idea. This is not > after the discovering, but even before that. They were so nice and so > humble and so full of love. And even the children brought Me small, > small presents, you know, just to give Me, so sweetly. This is > something surprising how these people in Russia have achieved that > capability to become. And I think, in the West, Russia is the country > which will achieve a very great height in spirituality. And that > means they will be the most powerful people. > > Let us see what you are doing in your own country and how you are > going to work it out. There is so many things you can do, very > easily, if you see for yourself that you are the instrument of the > Divine. And then your temperament will change, the nature will > change, you'll become a very, very sweet person, likeable person and > everybody will think that this is a saint walking around. So, that's > all I have to say about this. Whatever is the discovery is not a > discovery for Me, but a discovery for the whole world, and I am sure > once it is established and is exposed to the whole world, things will > change for you and for Me also. > > May God bless you! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Dear Jagbir and All, i just wanted to clarify that Dr. Bohdan had helped Mary Ann from what i remember, just in case my rendering made it seem the other way, but apparently he knew nothing beforehand of the physical barring of Dr. Mary Ann's entry to Burwood ashram. It had been done from the local collective level. violet , " Violet " <violet.tubb wrote: > > Dear Jagbir and All, > > i don't think anyone else has received quite as much widespread 'hooh-hah' as you have received, since obtaining permission from Shri Mataji to write your book. (Btw. i am glad Gerlinde brought up this query and that you have explained what has happened.) Mistakes can be made, and then maybe they are not mistakes, the way they turn out in the end. But what i am replying about is, have John Noyce, or Alan Wherry, or anyone else, ever had so much opposition from the organisation for what they have written, or are writing? i mean, do Sahaja Yogis demand to see " written evidence " of approval from Shri Mataji for what JN or AW have written? Or do they just expect it from you, Jagbir? > > This brings to mind the difficulty that Dr. Mary Ann Ghaffurian had in getting Shri Mataji's final approval/blessing at Burwood, N.S.W. for the book she had finally finished writing, after many years of very hard work. The difficulty was not in getting Shri Mataji to approve/bless her book. The difficulty was getting into the building in the first place! Some of the narrow-minded yogis of Mary Ann's local collective in Melbourne (of whom John Noyce is a prominent member) - had formed an actual physical barrier, to try and prevent Mary Ann from even entering! i recall that Mary Ann was a yogi who demanded the truth. Maybe this did not always endear her to others. Maybe this caused a little consternation in others, at times. Maybe some of the yogis thought that Mary Ann was not attending the local collective regularly enough. But if you are a very truthful person, and your local collective is having problems with the truth, are you going to attend as regularly as you would, if they were truthful? i say not! So, i put it down to lack of truthfulness and honesty, as to why some of the yogis ended up barring Mary Ann from presenting her book to Shri Mataji. In the end, Dr. Mary Ann came back to Burwood Ashram many hours later (as i recall she told me). If memory also recalls, i think Dr. Bohdan Sheyovich got involved. From Mary Ann's own account, it was Chris Kyriacou who finally ushered her to present her book to Shri Mataji. > > But what a rigamarole it all is, when people are not being honest and truthful! Here is the URL where you can read about Mary Ann's gracious rendering of what happened. She wisely leaves out the most horrible details, but since i have filled them in to the best of my recollection for the sake of posterity, you can read 'between-the- lines' and see it was a struggle to get her book approved - even though Shri Mataji wanted it written and published; post-haste! (i remember Mary Ann telling me how Shri Mataji wanted her to get it written and out earlier, but that in spite of working day and night on it, it was such a feat. It just seemed to take so long!) But some yogis were being duplicitous, i.e. " against what Shri Mataji wanted " . Mary Ann, however, knew that the Adi Shakti would see her through! She got her final approval/blessing on the book. Here, then, is the account (scroll down to the 2nd mention of " SEARCH FOR ORIGIN " ): > > /message/ 6172?unwrap=1 & var=1 & l=1 > > In conclusion, i am trying to highlight this 'thread of oppositional behaviour' that runs through the organisation of Sahaja Yoga, that when Shri Mataji approves of a book - that they can go against that! It hasn't just happened to Jagbir. It has happened to Dr. Mary Ann too. And i am wondering what therefore, happened to this 'Anatoli Akimov'? Maybe, he was opposed too! If anyone can find out what happened to him, it would be most appreciated! > > i would also like to know: " Have John Noyce or Alan Wherry ever faced such opposition when they've tried to get approval for what they've wanted to write? Have they ever seen the need to show " written permission " from Shri Mataji? Or is it a rule for one and not the other? Shri Mataji never said you needed " written permission " did She? " > > i also ask: " Where is the sacred trust that Sahaja Yogis have in each other and in Shri Mataji, whereby when Shri Mataji in front of Sahaja Yogis, as has happened with regard to Jagbir's book - says to go ahead with it, that then there is all this opposition? It just doesn't make sense! When Shri Mataji has given so many " verbal permissions " for Jagbir's book, in front of other Sahaja Yogis too, in my books that is equivalent to any kind of a " written permission! " > > If Sahaja Yogis have such short-term-memories, is it really the Adi Shakti's fault that they can't remember what She said? LOL! Is that why everybody wants things " in writing " ? Or is it just John Noyce and Alan Wherry that want things " in writing " ? Did John in the Book of Revelations, have to get approval from Jesus " in writing " to write his revelations?! Don't the revelations that the " special children " have given, stand on their own two feet? Has anyone from the Sahaja Yoga organisation actually " seriously tried to challenge " any of the evidence that the Adi Shakti has given? Since they don't believe in it, why aren't they honest, and say where the mystical evidence " falls short " ? (Jagbir, you recently said that you would like that answer too!) Otherwise, it is just the same case, of saying things, and not backing them up with evidence. If that is the case, i again repeat that the Sahaja Yoga organisation is a dishonest organisation - and that it is only the " Living Organisation of Sahaja Yoga " , which by its very Essence, is the Absolute Truth that nobody can organise! > > regards to all, > > violet > > > , " jagbir > singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > Dear Gerlinde and all, > > > > i wish to clarify your question on the forum as others may have the > > same question on their mind. > > > > Yes, a few years ago after the book was finished Dr. Balwinder did > > point the same too. i read that speech of Shri Mataji again and > > realized that She may have been talking about Akimov's book. > > > > Subsequently i began erasing all references of the quote to SHRI ADI > > SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF GOD. i could not do the same for the Table of > > Contents as the book was already done, and i left the TOC as it was. > > > > At that time i was pretty sure that Shri Mataji was referring to > SHRI > > ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF GOD due to the sheer breath and depth of > > the Devi's revelations in the Sahasrara and Her triggering of the > > Sure Signs of the Last Judgment and Al-Qiyamah. i could not > > understand then how, after Akimov's book is published, " all over the > > world that will be known about our work, will be not challenged any > > more " . Today i am definite that has not happened, and is not going > to > > ever happen. (i don't even know if Akimov's book exists in the first > > place.) So you have to forgive me for assuming that Shri Mataji was > > talking about my book. > > > > There is another reason too. Prior to seeking the physical Shri > > Mataji's permission i sought that of the eternal Adi Shakti in the > > Sahasrara to publish the book. The Devi agreed. So naturally i > > assumed that as Her incarnation, Shri Mataji is referring to that > > too. Moreover i had already sought Her permission in Toronto twice - > > first in a clothing store and the second in Her hotel suite where > > Shri Mataji told the leaders and SYs present that permission had > > already been granted previously, and there was no need to ask again. > > This second audience with Shri Mataji was just prior to the 1998 Adi > > Shakti puja at Cabella, Italy. So it was only natural for me to > > assume that Shri Mataji was talking about SHRI ADI SHAKTI: THE > > KINGDOM OF GOD. > > > > Today, more the ever before, that 'error' of mine only seems to be > > becoming more true than false. i hope the Devi within over time > proves > > that " all over the world that will be known about our work, will be > > not challenged any more " . After all, SHRI ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF > > GOD records all that She has revealed to humanity. So far no > > religious organization, priest, pastor, reverend, bishop, pope, > > rabbi, cleric, imam, mullah, shaikh, ulema, ayatollah, guru, swami, > > pandit, brahmin, acarya, bhagwan, granthi, giani, lama, monk, dalai > > lamas or false guru buster has challenged it. One day all over the > > world _that_ will be known. May the Devi prove that my deep faith > and > > conviction was never an error. > > > > regards to all, > > > > jagbir > > > > > > > > On Feb 3, 2008 8:25 PM, Gerlinde Sattler > > <gerlindesattler@> wrote: > > > > Dear Jagbir, > > > > Recently I read the puja talk of > > > > [ADI SHAKTI PUJA - Being Sahaja Yogis, you are responsible for the > > whole world [this phrase is on the tape cover of my personal tape ] > > > > 21 june 1998 - Cabella Ligure (Italia).......... > > > > which I've copied in its entirety further down and in which the > > following quote is to be found: > > > > " Now, as it is, once this book is out, all over the world that will > > be known about our work, will be not challenged any more. But still > > we have to see for ourselves that if we have achieved this kind of > > recognition, then we should be up to that, our capability should be > > up to that. " > > > > I recalled this quote from the first time I had encountered the > > adishakti.org site, because it made a great impression on me as it > > concerned Shri Mataji giving you the permission to publish your ADI > > SHAKTI: KINGDOM OF GOD book in the Third and Final Permission To > > Publish: " Once This Book Is Out . . . " 120 under the > > http://www.adishakti.org/table_of_contents.htm > > TABLE OF CONTENTS also found below. > > > > Why I'm mentioning this to you is that the source of this quote > [shri > > Mataji Nirmala Devi, You Must Develop Humility, Shri Adi Shakti > Puja, > > Cabella, Italy – May 21, 1998] is different from the puja talk I > just > > read. [ADI SHAKTI PUJA, Being Sahaja Yogis, you are responsible for > > the whole world 21 June 1998, Cabella, Ligure, Italia] Perhaps this > > same quote was found in both sources, and if so, that should, I > > believe, be clarified for others wishing to negate your work. > > > > One added item of importance to clarify is this: > > > > In the June 21, 1998 ADI SHAKTI PUJA in which an intro by Guido > Lanza > > was made about Anatoli Akimov and his upcoming book, another > > reference was made by Shri Mataji about Her Own book and Akimov's > > book in Her Puja talk. To which of these books was HER reference > made > > in HER following quote: > > > > " Now, as it is, once this book is out, all over the world that will > be > > known about our work, will be not challenged any more. But still we > > have to see for ourselves that if we have achieved this kind of > > recognition, then we should be up to that, our capability should be > > up to that. " > > > > - Anatoli Akimov, Shri Mataji, OR Adi Shakti:Kingdom of God? > > > > > > I'm concerned that the present quote [ Third and Final Permission To > > Publish: " Once This Book Is Out . . . " 120 under the > > http://www.adishakti.org/table_of_contents.htm TABLE OF CONTENTS > also > > found below] which seemingly points to Shri Mataji referring to > your > > book, may be interpreted as erroneous, since it could also be > > referring to Akimov's book or Shri Mataji's Own book as you can > > verify for yourself in the following and in the continued Puja talk > > found further down this page: > > > > ADI SHAKTI PUJA > > > > 21 june 1998 - Cabella Ligure (Italia) > > > > [introduction by Guido Lanza, regarding a scientific conference in > > Moscow.] > > > > " And he [Akimov] has already written a book in Russia which will be > > translated in English and he is preparing a new book on which of > > course the major topic will be this unique discovery. So now we have > > somebody who has scientifically proved what Shri Mataji is. " > > (applause) > > > > Perhaps I'm needlessly concerning myself about this, but I feel that > > this is an area that could easily be misconstrued as Shri Mataji NOT > > having given permission to publish the ADI SHAKTI:KINGDOM OF GOD at > > all, but rather that SHE is referring to AKIMOV's book, since much > of > > the puja talk seems to refer back to Akimov's discovery and the puja > > talk does not give mention, as far as I can see, to ADI SHAKTI :THE > > KINGDOM OF GOD at all. > > > > Pardon me if I'm wrong, but I rather think it would be preferable > and > > indeed even necessary to have no perceived ambiguity here. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Gerlinde > > > > --------------- > > > > > > 88888888888888888888888888888888888 > > > > > > Please continue to view the highlighted areas. This should help to > > clarify what I'm trying to say. > > > > > > http://www.adishakti.org/table_of_contents.htm > > TABLE OF CONTENTS > > > > Preface 12 > > The First Permission From The Spirit Of The Living God In The > > Sahasrara 13 > > " I Am The Adi Shakti . . . You People Have To Prove It That I Am > > THAT! " 15 > > The Ancient Beings Are Coming! 16 > > " The Falsehood Of All Outside Religions . . . Will Be Exposed " 17 > > " For Standing Up For The Truth Of Any Cause Is The War Of Dharma " > 19 > > The Material Marathon 20 > > A 'divine' mother?!!! 21 > > " I Feel Peaceful. " 22 > > A 'Cool Breeze'?! A Cool Breeze?!! (Or the Breath Of God > > Almighty?!!!) 25 > > " The First Doubt Which Is Very Common Is, " Who Is Mataji? " " 26 > > TABLE OF CONTENTS 28 > > > > PART ONE > > Chapter 1 > > > > The Universal Question: Why Are We Here On Earth? 47 > > " How Does One Meet A True Guru? " 48 > > O Speak Almighty God! 50 > > " JOIN SHRI MATAJI! " 51 > > The Manna Monsoon Of Many Moons 55 > > The Decadent Decades 57 > > Satnaam: The Imperishable Word 61 > > " Thou Art The Pristine Spirit . . . Which Illuminates And Breaks The > > Self-Hypnotism " 62 > > " In Thee Is My Only Haven And Refuge . . . O Bhavani! " 64 > > Meaning Of Avatar Or Incarnation 65 > > " The Highest Manifestation Of God Almighty Is As Mother " 70 > > " It Is For The Benevolence Of The Whole Human Race " 71 > > " First Is Self-Realization . . . What is God-Realization? " 72 > > " Tell All The Nations And Tell All The People All Over The Great > > Message " 76 > > The Spiritual Monsoon Begins 77 > > Earth Is A Conscious, Living Mother 78 > > Mother Earth: The Womb Of The Universe 81 > > The Woman Of Great Beauty 84 > > Overriding Fundamental Difference 85 > > Swami Satyananda: " Who Will Give Me The Proper Answer? " 86 > > The Initial Rejection 89 > > " You Have Seen Photographs Of Angels Around You " 90 > > " Assuredly, What Ye Are Promised Must Come To Pass " 92 > > " We Have Done Our Job Here " 93 > > " It Is Not A Blind Faith! " 94 > > " Sure, You Should Tell Them. " 95 > > " In The Age of Aquarius, Even The Skeptics Will Believe " 96 > > " Now You Have Entered Into The Kingdom Of God " 97 > > The First Permission In The Sahasrara 98 > > The Five Divine Days 99 > > The Golden Goddess Of The Sahasrara 100 > > " This Is The First Time In History . . . " 101 > > But Why A Religious Pariah? 102 > > Evolution: The Relentless Rebirth Of Species 104 > > But How Does God Almighty Know Everything? 106 > > The Second Permission 107 > > " They Do Not Know From Where They Get This Knowledge " 111 > > He Is A Child Of Darkness 114 > > They Must Leave Her School! 115 > > They Will Be Expelled! 116 > > We Will Leave, But Not Withdraw 117 > > Third and Final Permission To Publish: " Once This Book Is > > Out . . . " 120 > > > > > > CONTENTS:- > > > > PART ONE: > > The Dawn of the Divine Millennium > > > > PART TWO: > > And the Arrival Of The Kingdom Of God > > > > PART THREE: > > The Morning Of The Spiritual Monsoon > > > > PART FOUR: > > Lord Jesus Christ, The Universal Saviour > > The Antichrist And The Prince Of Carnal Life > > The Book Of Revelation > > > > PART FIVE: > > Shri Buddha, The Awakened One > > The Tao of Shri Lao-Tzu > > The Aykaa Mayee of Guru Nanak > > > > PART SIX: > > Prophet Muhammad, The Messenger of God > > The Holy Qur'an, Revelation Par Excellence > > The Sure Signs of Allah > > The Good News of Qiyamah > > Ibis The Great Deceiver > > > > PART SEVEN: > > The Missing Years > > The New Age Pimps > > The Prophecies of Nostradamus > > > > " Once this book is out all over the world, it will be known about > our > > Work. We'll not be challenged any more. But still we have to see for > > ourselves, that if we have this kind of recognition or not…our > > capabilities should be up to that. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > You Must Develop Humility, Shri Adi Shakti Puja > > Cabella, Italy – May 21, 1998 > > > > Welcome to the Millennium of the Spirit, the Millennium of the Great > > Adi Shakti Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. > > > > Merry Christmas and Peace on Earth. > > > > Jagbir Singh > > > > > > > > ................................................ > > > > The title here - Being Sahaja Yogis, you are...... comes from the > > tape I have, Jagbir. > > > > > > [ADI SHAKTI PUJA - Being Sahaja Yogis, you are responsible for the > > whole world > > > > 21 june 1998 - Cabella Ligure (Italia)........... > > > > Now, as it is, once this book is out, all over the world that will > > be known about our work, will be not challenged any more. But still > > we have to see for ourselves that if we have achieved this kind of > > recognition, then we should be up to that, our capability should be > > up to that. We should not be lagging behind. For example, if you ask > > some Sahaja Yogis, specially Sahaja Yoginis, they don't know much > > about Sahaja Yoga; they don't know about chakras, they don't know > > anything about the deities; nothing they know, how can they be > Sahaja > > Yogis? You have to know all about it. > > > > Only thing that you don't realise that it's not outside that you are > > a Sahaja Yogi, but it is inside. Inside you have to have that kind > of > > an understanding of the chakras and of Sahaja Yoga, how it works, > how > > it helps you. > > > > Now, supposing if I am the source of that energy - which you know > > very well I am - then you achieve yours also a kind of a perfection > > about dealing with people and bringing them to Sahaja Yoga. It's a > > very important work you have to do is to bring Sahaja Yogis in > Sahaja > > Yoga. ] > > > > > > > > *************** > > > > > > > > ADI SHAKTI PUJA > > > > 21 june 1998 - Cabella Ligure (Italia) > > > > [introduction by Guido Lanza, regarding a scientific conference in > > Moscow.] > > > > Shri Mataji has asked me to share with you what was the last > > experience of Her Divine visit in Russia. And I must say it was > > really a dramatic breakthrough, because in the scientific conference > > She had in Moscow, there was the participation of a very well known > > scientist, a physicist. > > > > His name is Anatoli Akimov, he is very well known all over Russia > and > > all over the world also. > > > > And he came with a theory and he has been studying this theory for a > > few years, which is based on the vacuum body and he studied > something > > like the torsion fields and he could explain in a very clear way, in > > a very scientific way, the vibrations that Shri Mataji is emitting. > > > > So, at the beginning he was studying some Yogis which were > meditating > > and he could notice that they were emitting vibrations, there was an > > aura around them. But then, when he came to Shri Mataji, when he saw > > Her pictures, the miraculous pictures, then he could really find out > > what it was and he said that in Her case, it was something which is > > infinite, which is unlimited. > > > > And also it was very nice, because at one point he said: " As a man > of > > science, I have to admit that all the scientists that so far made > > some exceptional, unique discovery..., I have to admit that all this > > did not come through some scientific process, through the brain, we > > can say. But it came only through some divine inspiration. We can > > mention Newton, we can mention Einstein and so on. " And he > > said: " Also in my case, when I was studying and working on this > > theory, at some point when I saw the picture of Shri Mataji, then I > > got the inspiration. " > > > > And then now Shri Mataji has invited him in September to come. And > he > > has already written a book in Russia which will be translated in > > English and he is preparing a new book on which of course the major > > topic will be this unique discovery. So now we have somebody who has > > scientifically proved what Shri Mataji is. (applause) > > > > [start of Shri Mataji's talk] > > > > In Russia, the people, somehow are very open-minded. Not only that, > > the scientists especially are very open-minded and were suppressed > > very much. So, they tried to find out the subtler things, not only > > finding out about chemicals or about some physical properties of the > > light, but they wanted to go into the subtler side and they had > found > > out already a great deal of knowledge about the auras around the > > hands, auras around the body. They had done so much of research and > > it was accepted all over the world their findings. > > > > Now, this gentleman was a specialist, I think, because he is a very > > well known, very, very well-known person and he is holding a very > big > > position. He was saying that he has to run 150 organisations, very > > humble and very nice person. And when he came out with this > > discovery, I was happy in a way, because scientifically if it is > > proved, then nobody can challenge it. He has already written a book > > with all the algebraic complications of what he wanted to prove. And > > he said that there is a vacuum beyond the consciousness. There is a > > vacuum and in that vacuum only, you can know the reality and once > all > > this becomes the reality, it is a science and that's how it is made > > into science. > > > > He showed so many of My photographs, specially the one where a lot > of > > energy is coming out of My Sahasrara when we were on a boat. So, he > > said: " She is the source of all the cosmic energy. " And that's what > > Adi Shakti is. She is the One who creates everything. > > > > The whole atmosphere that we know of is very artificial, but when > you > > understand what She has done, it's the first thing She does is to - > > and in My book also I have written down about it - but I would like > > to tell you that Her first, we should say, manifestation is on the > > left hand side. That's the Mahakali's manifestation. So, She comes > on > > the Mahakali system, the left hand side and that is where She > created > > Ganesha. Shri Ganesha is created because His purity, His innocence > > and auspiciousness, this had to be created before She created the > > universe. > > > > So, first thing She does is to create Shri Ganesha and She settles > > down. Then She goes up, of course, in the body of the Virata and > then > > She goes round and goes up on the right hand side, in the other way > > and there She creates all the universes, as we call them, bhuvanas, > > one universe. There are 14 bhuvanas, means there is many, many > > universes made, make one bhuvana and She creates all these things on > > the right hand side. Then She goes up and then She descends down > > creating all the chakras, Adi chakras or the pittas. She comes down, > > makes all these pittas and then She settles as the Kundalini. > > > > But Adi Shakti is not fully the Kundalini. We can say Kundalini is a > > part of it; the rest of the work is much more than this. So, we call > > it the residual energy, means after going through all this journey, > > then She comes round and She goes as Kundalini. Because of this > > Kundalini and the chakras, She creates an area which we call as the > > chakras in the body. > > > > Now, first She creates these chakras in the head, we call them the > > pittas of the chakras and then She comes down and creates these > > chakras which are in the body of the Virata. Now, once this has > > happened, then She creates human beings, but not directly, through > > the evolutionary process, She goes through and that's how the > > evolution starts and then it starts developing from the minute, > small > > little microscopic organisms in the water and then it starts > > evolving. So, when She creates water and She creates all the > > universes, She chooses this Mother Earth as the best place to play > > Her evolutionary process and there She makes this little microscopic > > thing. > > > > Of course, I have written all about it and when My book will be > > released, you can see that: how first hydrogen, carbon and oxygen > and > > all of these things they are mixed up and how nitrogen comes in to > > play and how a living process starts. All this I have done it in > > another book that I am going to write now. I mean, I have mostly > > finished, but there is some more chakras I have to deal with. Now > > with this happening, you see, one thing is there, that now, whatever > > I write, now people won't doubt. They will know it is scientific > fact > > and that's what, whatever I say is a fact. > > > > Now to believe in the Mother, Adi Shakti was impossible. Especially, > > you'll be amazed that Christian religion, some way or other, avoided > > it, the mentioning of the Mother. Then the Islam, that also avoided > > the mentioning of the Mother. There's completely negation towards > the > > Mother. But only Indian philosophy had the Mother and the Indians > are > > actually Shakti worshippers. So, this is how it was kept up and > > brought to this position now that people have got full idea as to > > Mother principle that has worked out everything. > > > > On this Mother principle, in India, people are very sure that it is > a > > Mother who does everything and thus we have in India many, we should > > say, many swayambhus, means things that are created of the Mother > > Earth. For example you know in Maharashtra, we have got Mahakali's > > place, Mahasaraswati, Mahalakshmi and also we have got a place for > > the Adi Shakti. > > > > Some people who have been to Nasik must have seen Chatur Shingi. How > > many people have you been to Chatur Shingi out of you? It's good. > So, > > this Chatur Shingi represents the Adi Shakti which is the fourth > > dimension of this power which gives you the ascent and ultimately > > through Mahalakshmi channel only, you get your realisation. > > > > All this is a process, all was created by the power of Adi Shakti. > > It's a tremendous task. The previous ones were not so difficult > > because they're for nature to create, it was very easy, the Mother > > Earth is one with the Adi Shakti, the whole atmosphere is one with > > the Adi Shakti, all the elements are one with the Adi Shakti. So She > > could create all that without any difficulties. > > > > But when human beings came, they got their freedom. That's the only, > > I should say, the species which fell into the maya of thinking and > of > > having the ego in them. With this ego a maya worked on them, I > should > > say, and they forgot about the principle that created this universe. > > They took it for granted. They felt that this is their own right, > > that they are there, this is their own achievement and they are the > > owners of everything. > > > > This started working in their mind so much that they invaded other > > countries, they destroyed so many people and they never felt bad > > about it. All their lives they have been thinking about aggressing > > others, controlling others and doing all kinds of harmful things. > But > > they never even thought or never did any introspection to see that > > what we are doing is very, very wrong and it should not be done. > > Because of the freedom they have, such a turmoil in this world and > > the people who were in charge of affairs, they were very, very cruel > > and extremely... had no feelings for the other people. And this > > happened so many times on this earth. > > > > Now, Sahaja Yoga has started. Once Sahaja Yoga has started, we have > > Sahaja Yogis who are now receiving the blessings of the Adi Shakti > > directly. But still, I must say, among Sahaja Yogis also, we don't > > have people whom I would call as very well matured. There are Sahaja > > Yogis, some of them are just because it is a fashion; maybe it > should > > be better from their angle or from their selfish angle or whatever > it > > is. It's a very wrong thing. If you are in Sahaja Yoga, you must > > know, now you are responsible for the whole world. You are the only > > people who have come forward. You are the only people who have > > achieved something and then at this juncture, you should behave in a > > manner that behooves a big saint or a realised soul. > > > > But sometimes you find them behaving in such a manner, it's shocking > > sometimes. They have no respect for themselves or for others and > > their whole attitude is very funny. Some of them are money- oriented, > > some of them are power-oriented. And those who are power-oriented > are > > more dangerous I think than money-oriented. Because those who are > > power-oriented try to bring such bad name to Sahaja Yoga. They are > > very insulting, dominating and horrible people. Their whole attitude > > is to achieve power in Sahaja Yoga and they try all tricks to > achieve > > that power. But for some time they look all right. After some time, > > you'll find they'll all disappear from the field of Sahaja Yoga. > It's > > a very big cleansing process going on. > > > > You must understand that you have come in the field of very high > > consciousness where you are in contact with the Divine. Now here, if > > you behave like ordinary people who have no divinity within them, > how > > long will you continue like this? So, this is very important that > you > > should try to meditate and evolve yourselves and become really, very > > good Sahaja Yogis. In some places we are very, very lucky. In some > > countries we are very, very lucky, but in some countries I find the > > people are just deaf and dumb; they can't understand Sahaja Yoga. > For > > My programme they do come and afterwards they just disappear. This > > one, I think is also,... Sahaja Yogis are responsible for this, the > > way they go about, the way they want to do Sahaj work is not Sahaj. > > Must be something definitely wrong with the whole thing and that's > > why it's not working out the same way as it is working out in many > > places. > > > > So, I have to tell you that all this is there, that Adi Shakti is > > there and all this has happened through Adi Shakti. But now, the > > further work has to be done through you people, because you are the > > channels, you are the ones who have to transform people. And > > everybody should understand and know how many people we have given > > realisation. We have to think of it. What have we done for Sahaja > > Yoga? > > > > Once I was travelling by plane and I met a lady who was sitting next > > to Me. She was so hot, I couldn't understand. Then she told Me she > is > > a disciple of a guru, very proud of it and she started telling Me > all > > about him. I was amazed that, look at this woman, she hasn't got > > anything from him and she was just saying: " I had given so much > money > > to him and I have done this thing to him " and all those things. But > > she had nothing. And despite that, she was talking to Me, a stranger > >; person, about the guru. > > > >; But in Sahaja Yoga I have seen people are rather shy. They don't > want > > to talk about Sahaja Yoga openly to others, which is a very wrong > > thing you are doing because you are responsible for this world. You > > have been given realisation. Of course you are seeking, everything > is > > all right, but all of you must try to give realisation to others. I > > must say that somehow, men have been more dynamic, working it out. > > The women in Sahaja Yoga are not yet coming up to that level as they > > should. They have to be more sensible about it and they have to work > > it out. You can do it, but only trouble is, I think, they have > > certain minor problems about which they are worried. > > > > Always I get letters from ladies, saying: " This is wrong, that is > > wrong " , complaining all the time. Then I am so fed up of their > > letters now that I think they are useless to read them also. > > > > So, I have to tell you all that it is important that men, because > > they are dynamic, women should be much more because they are Shaktis > > and I am a woman. So I find that the men are more sort of active and > > dynamic about Sahaja Yoga and I don't know what is the reason why > > women are not. They can transform so many people; they can do so > much > > good to others, they can bring so much love and compassion, because > > this love and compassion is a quality of a mother, of a woman and if > > the women don't have that quality it's useless to be a woman. All > the > > time if you are busy about your useless thing like fashions, or > faces > > and all that, then the time is all wasted. > > > > We have a short time now, you got your realisation and you must > > decide: what have you done so far? what have you achieved so far? > > > > But I would say that also in Sahaja Yoga I found that there are all > > kinds of funny ideas growing. Like certain rituals they will take > up, > > then they prescribe certain rituals, they'll talk about it and a > kind > > of a power orientation is there. They want to oppress others and > they > > want to take over and frighten people and behave in such a manner > > that, as if they are very good. Some of them start saying > > that: " Mataji said so. This is Mataji's idea. " By their own power > > orientation, they manufacture things and talk like that. But ask > > them: " How many have you given realisation? " First thing you must > > determine is positively how many you have given realisation. He is > > just talking about others, criticising others, talking about the > > defects of Sahaja Yoga, sin in Sahaja Yoga. I would say is still > > a very preliminary things that have happened before and it should > > stop now. > > > > Now, as it is, once this book is out, all over the world that will > be > > known about our work, will be not challenged any more. But still we > > have to see for ourselves that if we have achieved this kind of > > recognition, then we should be up to that, our capability should be > > up to that. We should not be lagging behind. For example, if you ask > > some Sahaja Yogis, specially Sahaja Yoginis, they don't know much > > about Sahaja Yoga; they don't know about chakras, they don't know > > anything about the deities; nothing they know, how can they be > Sahaja > > Yogis? You have to know all about it. > > > > Only thing that you don't realise that it's not outside that you are > > a Sahaja Yogi, but it is inside. Inside you have to have that kind > of > > an understanding of the chakras and of Sahaja Yoga, how it works, > how > > it helps you. > > > > Now, supposing if I am the source of that energy - which you know > > very well I am - then you achieve yours also a kind of a perfection > > about dealing with people and bringing them to Sahaja Yoga. It's a > > very important work you have to do is to bring Sahaja Yogis in > Sahaja > > Yoga. > > > > What I find that some people are very much still lagging behind and > > is very surprising that they live in that country, they are part and > > parcel of that country and they are not bothered. Under these > > circumstances, they will be blamed that: " Why didn't you do? Why > > didn't you find out the ways and methods of convincing at least your > > country men? " > > > > So, Sahaja Yoga is at the brink of growth, cannot grow only with one > > > > country or two countries. All the countries have to be brought into > > Sahaja Yoga. All the people that we could call into Sahaja Yoga will > > be a very good idea and then we have books to convince people, we > > have to talk to them about it. > > > > But what I find about Sahaja Yogis that once they start spreading > > Sahaja Yoga, also their ego comes up and it thinks they are very > > great Sahaja Yogis, they are great leaders, all these kinds of > stupid > > ideas are working into their heads, which is wrong. You have just to > > stay in a very humble manner. The more you have, the more you become > > humble, like a tree when laden with fruits bends down. In the same > > way, you have to be very humble, but that humility is sometimes very > > difficult because the culture of the West is not humble culture. > It's > > a culture of aggression, culture of domination. So far they have > > been... they think because of domination they could go all over the > > world, they could achieve so many things. What have they achieved? > > Nothing! In their own countries, if you see, there is drug > addiction. > > Why should people take to drug so much? Then all kinds of sinful > > things they do, which I don't want to mention, but you know what > > they are doing, which in India, which is a poorer country, one > cannot > > even think about it. Such things are happening around you. So, find > > out what's wrong, where and how you can correct these things, if you > > can help them. > > > > Actually, now as I told you, I'm going to start some sort of > > organisation that will do good to human beings, but you all can join > > also, you can also start in your own countries something like that. > > But first you have to get rid of your ego. That once happens to you, > > then only your attention will be steady. And this ego is very simple > > for you, because you worship Christ. And the Christ is the one who > > was settled on the Agnya chakra. You all worship Christ, but that > > humility of Christ is not there. Just the opposite of it. It has > > happened everywhere, that whatever is preached in the religion, > > people did just the opposite of it. For example, Hindu religion, I > > would say Hindu philosophy, is that in everybody resides the > > spirit. Now, in everybody if there is spirit, then how can you have > > different caste systems and how can you have somebody higher and > > lower? > > > > Other way round, now Christ has said, that: " You have to forgive, > > forgive everyone and you have to humble down. " And that's what one > > finds, that among Christians they don't know humility. They have no > > idea of humility. Men are like that, women are like that, and the > men > > and women, then, go on fighting. There is no question of anybody > > being humble, peaceful and all that. So, it is very artificially > they > > are showing off that they are very philanthropist and all that, but > > inside in their heart, I don't find there is any love, there is any > > compassion in the real sense of the word. > > > > So, when we are dealing with reality, you have to know that we > cannot > > just go on doing things which are artificial, which are befooling > > others, but we have to really become that. Once you become that, > when > > you are really like that, then only you have done the job for which > > you are born at this juncture of blossom times. Otherwise, you could > > have been born earlier and could have been something different. But > > you are specially born, so you realise your value, you realise > > yourself what you are and try to understand, have self-respect and > > try to do things which are very important as Sahaja Yogis. Of course > > you are doing your job, you are doing other things, but you will be > > amazed, if you do the work of Sahaja Yoga, you'll find more time for > > everything. Once you start doing God's work, God does your work and > > that's how you will be amazed how you get so much time to do the > > right thing. > > > > Now, it is for you to go back and introspect, see for yourself. Now, > > the Adi Shakti Herself has come, but I am very simple, I am very > > simple to look at. In My behaviour, I am very, very humble and > people > > take Me for granted. I don't do anything, I don't want to punish > you, > > I don't want to do anything, but you yourself get punished, you > > yourself become useless, if you do not look after yourself and grow > > yourself. > > > > This finding is so great and this man had never known Me before. He > > is very learned, but he is very humble and what he told Me that, > just > > imagine: " I am sitting before the Creator of this world and still I > > am very normal. " I said: " What should happen to you? What do you > > think? " He said: " Mother, it is a big thing to realise that I am > > sitting before You and that You are here. " I said: " It's good that > > you don't feel My presence so oppressive, so dominating, I'm very > > happy. " He says: " I just feel the love, I just feel the compassion. " > > That's what it is. We have to know that we should just have love and > > compassion. Compassion and love for ourselves in the way that we > > should not harm anybody's heart. To say something, to hurt someone > is > > very sinful. But some people enjoy that very much; they think they > > are very clever, it is not so. When you talk to someone, you must > say > > something which is very soothing and good. > > > > Another thing is the temper of a person, is the temper like, the > > slightest thing here and there, they get into temper. Now, this has > > to be told this temper that: " You should keep quiet, I have nothing > > to do with you! " That is one thing. Then there are people who are > > very subtly, I should say, power-oriented, very subtle. They have > > tricks of the trade by which they know how to control others. What > > are you going to gain out of it? What is your gain? By doing all > > these things, what will happen? In these worldly things, you might > be > > a little bit popular, a little bit having a position or something, > > but what is it after all? That is not going to help you. > > > > What is going to help you the most is to make yourself a perfect > > channel for Sahaja Yoga, to be a perfect channel. In that, you will > > be amazed how you'll be helped. So, I would say for you people, who > > are in the West, I would say you must develop humility. It's very > > important. > > > > I was surprised in Russia itself, the people are not only humble, > but > > such dedication, such dedication, unbelievable! They don't even > raise > > their eyes to Me. I don't know how they got this idea. This is not > > after the discovering, but even before that. They were so nice and > so > > humble and so full of love. And even the children brought Me small, > > small presents, you know, just to give Me, so sweetly. This is > > something surprising how these people in Russia have achieved that > > capability to become. And I think, in the West, Russia is the > country > > which will achieve a very great height in spirituality. And that > > means they will be the most powerful people. > > > > Let us see what you are doing in your own country and how you are > > going to work it out. There is so many things you can do, very > > easily, if you see for yourself that you are the instrument of the > > Divine. And then your temperament will change, the nature will > > change, you'll become a very, very sweet person, likeable person and > > everybody will think that this is a saint walking around. So, that's > > all I have to say about this. Whatever is the discovery is not a > > discovery for Me, but a discovery for the whole world, and I am sure > > once it is established and is exposed to the whole world, things > will > > change for you and for Me also. > > > > May God bless you! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Dear Jagbir, Violet and All, Jagbir, your forthrightness in not only acknowledging the 'error' pertaining to the above question but also setting forth immediately to clarify for me and other forum members the reasons behind its original occurrence is much appreciated. Thanks, too, for the in-depth, valuable response to message #9000 " The Central Message of Comforter, Last Judgment, and Kingdom of God. " Jagbir and Violet, with regards to the existence of Akimov's book, I can confirm that a Yogi in the local collective here has a copy of Akimov's book published in the Russian language. I don't know if it was ever translated into English. Warm regards, Gerlinde , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > Dear Gerlinde and all, > > i wish to clarify your question on the forum as others may have the > same question on their mind. > > Yes, a few years ago after the book was finished Dr. Balwinder did > point the same too. i read that speech of Shri Mataji again and > realized that She may have been talking about Akimov's book. > > Subsequently i began erasing all references of the quote to SHRI ADI > SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF GOD. i could not do the same for the Table of > Contents as the book was already done, and i left the TOC as it was. > > At that time i was pretty sure that Shri Mataji was referring to SHRI > ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF GOD due to the sheer breath and depth of > the Devi's revelations in the Sahasrara and Her triggering of the > Sure Signs of the Last Judgment and Al-Qiyamah. i could not > understand then how, after Akimov's book is published, " all over the > world that will be known about our work, will be not challenged any > more " . Today i am definite that has not happened, and is not going to > ever happen. (i don't even know if Akimov's book exists in the first > place.) So you have to forgive me for assuming that Shri Mataji was > talking about my book. > > There is another reason too. Prior to seeking the physical Shri > Mataji's permission i sought that of the eternal Adi Shakti in the > Sahasrara to publish the book. The Devi agreed. So naturally i > assumed that as Her incarnation, Shri Mataji is referring to that > too. Moreover i had already sought Her permission in Toronto twice - > first in a clothing store and the second in Her hotel suite where > Shri Mataji told the leaders and SYs present that permission had > already been granted previously, and there was no need to ask again. > This second audience with Shri Mataji was just prior to the 1998 Adi > Shakti puja at Cabella, Italy. So it was only natural for me to > assume that Shri Mataji was talking about SHRI ADI SHAKTI: THE > KINGDOM OF GOD. > > Today, more the ever before, that 'error' of mine only seems to be > becoming more true than false. i hope the Devi within over time proves > that " all over the world that will be known about our work, will be > not challenged any more " . After all, SHRI ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF > GOD records all that She has revealed to humanity. So far no > religious organization, priest, pastor, reverend, bishop, pope, > rabbi, cleric, imam, mullah, shaikh, ulema, ayatollah, guru, swami, > pandit, brahmin, acarya, bhagwan, granthi, giani, lama, monk, dalai > lamas or false guru buster has challenged it. One day all over the > world _that_ will be known. May the Devi prove that my deep faith and > conviction was never an error. > > regards to all, > > jagbir > > > > On Feb 3, 2008 8:25 PM, Gerlinde Sattler > <gerlindesattler wrote: > > Dear Jagbir, > > Recently I read the puja talk of > > [ADI SHAKTI PUJA - Being Sahaja Yogis, you are responsible for the > whole world [this phrase is on the tape cover of my personal tape ] > > 21 june 1998 - Cabella Ligure (Italia).......... > > which I've copied in its entirety further down and in which the > following quote is to be found: > > " Now, as it is, once this book is out, all over the world that will > be known about our work, will be not challenged any more. But still > we have to see for ourselves that if we have achieved this kind of > recognition, then we should be up to that, our capability should be > up to that. " > > I recalled this quote from the first time I had encountered the > adishakti.org site, because it made a great impression on me as it > concerned Shri Mataji giving you the permission to publish your ADI > SHAKTI: KINGDOM OF GOD book in the Third and Final Permission To > Publish: " Once This Book Is Out . . . " 120 under the > http://www.adishakti.org/table_of_contents.htm > TABLE OF CONTENTS also found below. > > Why I'm mentioning this to you is that the source of this quote [shri > Mataji Nirmala Devi, You Must Develop Humility, Shri Adi Shakti Puja, > Cabella, Italy – May 21, 1998] is different from the puja talk I just > read. [ADI SHAKTI PUJA, Being Sahaja Yogis, you are responsible for > the whole world 21 June 1998, Cabella, Ligure, Italia] Perhaps this > same quote was found in both sources, and if so, that should, I > believe, be clarified for others wishing to negate your work. > > One added item of importance to clarify is this: > > In the June 21, 1998 ADI SHAKTI PUJA in which an intro by Guido Lanza > was made about Anatoli Akimov and his upcoming book, another > reference was made by Shri Mataji about Her Own book and Akimov's > book in Her Puja talk. To which of these books was HER reference made > in HER following quote: > > " Now, as it is, once this book is out, all over the world that will be > known about our work, will be not challenged any more. But still we > have to see for ourselves that if we have achieved this kind of > recognition, then we should be up to that, our capability should be > up to that. " > > - Anatoli Akimov, Shri Mataji, OR Adi Shakti:Kingdom of God? > > > I'm concerned that the present quote [ Third and Final Permission To > Publish: " Once This Book Is Out . . . " 120 under the > http://www.adishakti.org/table_of_contents.htm TABLE OF CONTENTS also > found below] which seemingly points to Shri Mataji referring to your > book, may be interpreted as erroneous, since it could also be > referring to Akimov's book or Shri Mataji's Own book as you can > verify for yourself in the following and in the continued Puja talk > found further down this page: > > ADI SHAKTI PUJA > > 21 june 1998 - Cabella Ligure (Italia) > > [introduction by Guido Lanza, regarding a scientific conference in > Moscow.] > > " And he [Akimov] has already written a book in Russia which will be > translated in English and he is preparing a new book on which of > course the major topic will be this unique discovery. So now we have > somebody who has scientifically proved what Shri Mataji is. " > (applause) > > Perhaps I'm needlessly concerning myself about this, but I feel that > this is an area that could easily be misconstrued as Shri Mataji NOT > having given permission to publish the ADI SHAKTI:KINGDOM OF GOD at > all, but rather that SHE is referring to AKIMOV's book, since much of > the puja talk seems to refer back to Akimov's discovery and the puja > talk does not give mention, as far as I can see, to ADI SHAKTI :THE > KINGDOM OF GOD at all. > > Pardon me if I'm wrong, but I rather think it would be preferable and > indeed even necessary to have no perceived ambiguity here. > > Warm regards, > > Gerlinde > > --------------- > > > 88888888888888888888888888888888888 > > > Please continue to view the highlighted areas. This should help to > clarify what I'm trying to say. > > > http://www.adishakti.org/table_of_contents.htm > TABLE OF CONTENTS > > Preface 12 > The First Permission From The Spirit Of The Living God In The > Sahasrara 13 > " I Am The Adi Shakti . . . You People Have To Prove It That I Am > THAT! " 15 > The Ancient Beings Are Coming! 16 > " The Falsehood Of All Outside Religions . . . Will Be Exposed " 17 > " For Standing Up For The Truth Of Any Cause Is The War Of Dharma " 19 > The Material Marathon 20 > A 'divine' mother?!!! 21 > " I Feel Peaceful. " 22 > A 'Cool Breeze'?! A Cool Breeze?!! (Or the Breath Of God > Almighty?!!!) 25 > " The First Doubt Which Is Very Common Is, " Who Is Mataji? " " 26 > TABLE OF CONTENTS 28 > > PART ONE > Chapter 1 > > The Universal Question: Why Are We Here On Earth? 47 > " How Does One Meet A True Guru? " 48 > O Speak Almighty God! 50 > " JOIN SHRI MATAJI! " 51 > The Manna Monsoon Of Many Moons 55 > The Decadent Decades 57 > Satnaam: The Imperishable Word 61 > " Thou Art The Pristine Spirit . . . Which Illuminates And Breaks The > Self-Hypnotism " 62 > " In Thee Is My Only Haven And Refuge . . . O Bhavani! " 64 > Meaning Of Avatar Or Incarnation 65 > " The Highest Manifestation Of God Almighty Is As Mother " 70 > " It Is For The Benevolence Of The Whole Human Race " 71 > " First Is Self-Realization . . . What is God-Realization? " 72 > " Tell All The Nations And Tell All The People All Over The Great > Message " 76 > The Spiritual Monsoon Begins 77 > Earth Is A Conscious, Living Mother 78 > Mother Earth: The Womb Of The Universe 81 > The Woman Of Great Beauty 84 > Overriding Fundamental Difference 85 > Swami Satyananda: " Who Will Give Me The Proper Answer? " 86 > The Initial Rejection 89 > " You Have Seen Photographs Of Angels Around You " 90 > " Assuredly, What Ye Are Promised Must Come To Pass " 92 > " We Have Done Our Job Here " 93 > " It Is Not A Blind Faith! " 94 > " Sure, You Should Tell Them. " 95 > " In The Age of Aquarius, Even The Skeptics Will Believe " 96 > " Now You Have Entered Into The Kingdom Of God " 97 > The First Permission In The Sahasrara 98 > The Five Divine Days 99 > The Golden Goddess Of The Sahasrara 100 > " This Is The First Time In History . . . " 101 > But Why A Religious Pariah? 102 > Evolution: The Relentless Rebirth Of Species 104 > But How Does God Almighty Know Everything? 106 > The Second Permission 107 > " They Do Not Know From Where They Get This Knowledge " 111 > He Is A Child Of Darkness 114 > They Must Leave Her School! 115 > They Will Be Expelled! 116 > We Will Leave, But Not Withdraw 117 > Third and Final Permission To Publish: " Once This Book Is > Out . . . " 120 > > > CONTENTS:- > > PART ONE: > The Dawn of the Divine Millennium > > PART TWO: > And the Arrival Of The Kingdom Of God > > PART THREE: > The Morning Of The Spiritual Monsoon > > PART FOUR: > Lord Jesus Christ, The Universal Saviour > The Antichrist And The Prince Of Carnal Life > The Book Of Revelation > > PART FIVE: > Shri Buddha, The Awakened One > The Tao of Shri Lao-Tzu > The Aykaa Mayee of Guru Nanak > > PART SIX: > Prophet Muhammad, The Messenger of God > The Holy Qur'an, Revelation Par Excellence > The Sure Signs of Allah > The Good News of Qiyamah > Ibis The Great Deceiver > > PART SEVEN: > The Missing Years > The New Age Pimps > The Prophecies of Nostradamus > > " Once this book is out all over the world, it will be known about our > Work. We'll not be challenged any more. But still we have to see for > ourselves, that if we have this kind of recognition or not…our > capabilities should be up to that. " > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > You Must Develop Humility, Shri Adi Shakti Puja > Cabella, Italy – May 21, 1998 > > Welcome to the Millennium of the Spirit, the Millennium of the Great > Adi Shakti Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. > > Merry Christmas and Peace on Earth. > > Jagbir Singh > > > > ................................................ > > The title here - Being Sahaja Yogis, you are...... comes from the > tape I have, Jagbir. > > > [ADI SHAKTI PUJA - Being Sahaja Yogis, you are responsible for the > whole world > > 21 june 1998 - Cabella Ligure (Italia)........... > > Now, as it is, once this book is out, all over the world that will > be known about our work, will be not challenged any more. But still > we have to see for ourselves that if we have achieved this kind of > recognition, then we should be up to that, our capability should be > up to that. We should not be lagging behind. For example, if you ask > some Sahaja Yogis, specially Sahaja Yoginis, they don't know much > about Sahaja Yoga; they don't know about chakras, they don't know > anything about the deities; nothing they know, how can they be Sahaja > Yogis? You have to know all about it. > > Only thing that you don't realise that it's not outside that you are > a Sahaja Yogi, but it is inside. Inside you have to have that kind of > an understanding of the chakras and of Sahaja Yoga, how it works, how > it helps you. > > Now, supposing if I am the source of that energy - which you know > very well I am - then you achieve yours also a kind of a perfection > about dealing with people and bringing them to Sahaja Yoga. It's a > very important work you have to do is to bring Sahaja Yogis in Sahaja > Yoga. ] > > > > *************** > > > > ADI SHAKTI PUJA > > 21 june 1998 - Cabella Ligure (Italia) > > [introduction by Guido Lanza, regarding a scientific conference in > Moscow.] > > Shri Mataji has asked me to share with you what was the last > experience of Her Divine visit in Russia. And I must say it was > really a dramatic breakthrough, because in the scientific conference > She had in Moscow, there was the participation of a very well known > scientist, a physicist. > > His name is Anatoli Akimov, he is very well known all over Russia and > all over the world also. > > And he came with a theory and he has been studying this theory for a > few years, which is based on the vacuum body and he studied something > like the torsion fields and he could explain in a very clear way, in > a very scientific way, the vibrations that Shri Mataji is emitting. > > So, at the beginning he was studying some Yogis which were meditating > and he could notice that they were emitting vibrations, there was an > aura around them. But then, when he came to Shri Mataji, when he saw > Her pictures, the miraculous pictures, then he could really find out > what it was and he said that in Her case, it was something which is > infinite, which is unlimited. > > And also it was very nice, because at one point he said: " As a man of > science, I have to admit that all the scientists that so far made > some exceptional, unique discovery..., I have to admit that all this > did not come through some scientific process, through the brain, we > can say. But it came only through some divine inspiration. We can > mention Newton, we can mention Einstein and so on. " And he > said: " Also in my case, when I was studying and working on this > theory, at some point when I saw the picture of Shri Mataji, then I > got the inspiration. " > > And then now Shri Mataji has invited him in September to come. And he > has already written a book in Russia which will be translated in > English and he is preparing a new book on which of course the major > topic will be this unique discovery. So now we have somebody who has > scientifically proved what Shri Mataji is. (applause) > > [start of Shri Mataji's talk] > > In Russia, the people, somehow are very open-minded. Not only that, > the scientists especially are very open-minded and were suppressed > very much. So, they tried to find out the subtler things, not only > finding out about chemicals or about some physical properties of the > light, but they wanted to go into the subtler side and they had found > out already a great deal of knowledge about the auras around the > hands, auras around the body. They had done so much of research and > it was accepted all over the world their findings. > > Now, this gentleman was a specialist, I think, because he is a very > well known, very, very well-known person and he is holding a very big > position. He was saying that he has to run 150 organisations, very > humble and very nice person. And when he came out with this > discovery, I was happy in a way, because scientifically if it is > proved, then nobody can challenge it. He has already written a book > with all the algebraic complications of what he wanted to prove. And > he said that there is a vacuum beyond the consciousness. There is a > vacuum and in that vacuum only, you can know the reality and once all > this becomes the reality, it is a science and that's how it is made > into science. > > He showed so many of My photographs, specially the one where a lot of > energy is coming out of My Sahasrara when we were on a boat. So, he > said: " She is the source of all the cosmic energy. " And that's what > Adi Shakti is. She is the One who creates everything. > > The whole atmosphere that we know of is very artificial, but when you > understand what She has done, it's the first thing She does is to - > and in My book also I have written down about it - but I would like > to tell you that Her first, we should say, manifestation is on the > left hand side. That's the Mahakali's manifestation. So, She comes on > the Mahakali system, the left hand side and that is where She created > Ganesha. Shri Ganesha is created because His purity, His innocence > and auspiciousness, this had to be created before She created the > universe. > > So, first thing She does is to create Shri Ganesha and She settles > down. Then She goes up, of course, in the body of the Virata and then > She goes round and goes up on the right hand side, in the other way > and there She creates all the universes, as we call them, bhuvanas, > one universe. There are 14 bhuvanas, means there is many, many > universes made, make one bhuvana and She creates all these things on > the right hand side. Then She goes up and then She descends down > creating all the chakras, Adi chakras or the pittas. She comes down, > makes all these pittas and then She settles as the Kundalini. > > But Adi Shakti is not fully the Kundalini. We can say Kundalini is a > part of it; the rest of the work is much more than this. So, we call > it the residual energy, means after going through all this journey, > then She comes round and She goes as Kundalini. Because of this > Kundalini and the chakras, She creates an area which we call as the > chakras in the body. > > Now, first She creates these chakras in the head, we call them the > pittas of the chakras and then She comes down and creates these > chakras which are in the body of the Virata. Now, once this has > happened, then She creates human beings, but not directly, through > the evolutionary process, She goes through and that's how the > evolution starts and then it starts developing from the minute, small > little microscopic organisms in the water and then it starts > evolving. So, when She creates water and She creates all the > universes, She chooses this Mother Earth as the best place to play > Her evolutionary process and there She makes this little microscopic > thing. > > Of course, I have written all about it and when My book will be > released, you can see that: how first hydrogen, carbon and oxygen and > all of these things they are mixed up and how nitrogen comes in to > play and how a living process starts. All this I have done it in > another book that I am going to write now. I mean, I have mostly > finished, but there is some more chakras I have to deal with. Now > with this happening, you see, one thing is there, that now, whatever > I write, now people won't doubt. They will know it is scientific fact > and that's what, whatever I say is a fact. > > Now to believe in the Mother, Adi Shakti was impossible. Especially, > you'll be amazed that Christian religion, some way or other, avoided > it, the mentioning of the Mother. Then the Islam, that also avoided > the mentioning of the Mother. There's completely negation towards the > Mother. But only Indian philosophy had the Mother and the Indians are > actually Shakti worshippers. So, this is how it was kept up and > brought to this position now that people have got full idea as to > Mother principle that has worked out everything. > > On this Mother principle, in India, people are very sure that it is a > Mother who does everything and thus we have in India many, we should > say, many swayambhus, means things that are created of the Mother > Earth. For example you know in Maharashtra, we have got Mahakali's > place, Mahasaraswati, Mahalakshmi and also we have got a place for > the Adi Shakti. > > Some people who have been to Nasik must have seen Chatur Shingi. How > many people have you been to Chatur Shingi out of you? It's good. So, > this Chatur Shingi represents the Adi Shakti which is the fourth > dimension of this power which gives you the ascent and ultimately > through Mahalakshmi channel only, you get your realisation. > > All this is a process, all was created by the power of Adi Shakti. > It's a tremendous task. The previous ones were not so difficult > because they're for nature to create, it was very easy, the Mother > Earth is one with the Adi Shakti, the whole atmosphere is one with > the Adi Shakti, all the elements are one with the Adi Shakti. So She > could create all that without any difficulties. > > But when human beings came, they got their freedom. That's the only, > I should say, the species which fell into the maya of thinking and of > having the ego in them. With this ego a maya worked on them, I should > say, and they forgot about the principle that created this universe. > They took it for granted. They felt that this is their own right, > that they are there, this is their own achievement and they are the > owners of everything. > > This started working in their mind so much that they invaded other > countries, they destroyed so many people and they never felt bad > about it. All their lives they have been thinking about aggressing > others, controlling others and doing all kinds of harmful things. But > they never even thought or never did any introspection to see that > what we are doing is very, very wrong and it should not be done. > Because of the freedom they have, such a turmoil in this world and > the people who were in charge of affairs, they were very, very cruel > and extremely... had no feelings for the other people. And this > happened so many times on this earth. > > Now, Sahaja Yoga has started. Once Sahaja Yoga has started, we have > Sahaja Yogis who are now receiving the blessings of the Adi Shakti > directly. But still, I must say, among Sahaja Yogis also, we don't > have people whom I would call as very well matured. There are Sahaja > Yogis, some of them are just because it is a fashion; maybe it should > be better from their angle or from their selfish angle or whatever it > is. It's a very wrong thing. If you are in Sahaja Yoga, you must > know, now you are responsible for the whole world. You are the only > people who have come forward. You are the only people who have > achieved something and then at this juncture, you should behave in a > manner that behooves a big saint or a realised soul. > > But sometimes you find them behaving in such a manner, it's shocking > sometimes. They have no respect for themselves or for others and > their whole attitude is very funny. Some of them are money- oriented, > some of them are power-oriented. And those who are power-oriented are > more dangerous I think than money-oriented. Because those who are > power-oriented try to bring such bad name to Sahaja Yoga. They are > very insulting, dominating and horrible people. Their whole attitude > is to achieve power in Sahaja Yoga and they try all tricks to achieve > that power. But for some time they look all right. After some time, > you'll find they'll all disappear from the field of Sahaja Yoga. It's > a very big cleansing process going on. > > You must understand that you have come in the field of very high > consciousness where you are in contact with the Divine. Now here, if > you behave like ordinary people who have no divinity within them, how > long will you continue like this? So, this is very important that you > should try to meditate and evolve yourselves and become really, very > good Sahaja Yogis. In some places we are very, very lucky. In some > countries we are very, very lucky, but in some countries I find the > people are just deaf and dumb; they can't understand Sahaja Yoga. For > My programme they do come and afterwards they just disappear. This > one, I think is also,... Sahaja Yogis are responsible for this, the > way they go about, the way they want to do Sahaj work is not Sahaj. > Must be something definitely wrong with the whole thing and that's > why it's not working out the same way as it is working out in many > places. > > So, I have to tell you that all this is there, that Adi Shakti is > there and all this has happened through Adi Shakti. But now, the > further work has to be done through you people, because you are the > channels, you are the ones who have to transform people. And > everybody should understand and know how many people we have given > realisation. We have to think of it. What have we done for Sahaja > Yoga? > > Once I was travelling by plane and I met a lady who was sitting next > to Me. She was so hot, I couldn't understand. Then she told Me she is > a disciple of a guru, very proud of it and she started telling Me all > about him. I was amazed that, look at this woman, she hasn't got > anything from him and she was just saying: " I had given so much money > to him and I have done this thing to him " and all those things. But > she had nothing. And despite that, she was talking to Me, a stranger > person, about the guru. > > But in Sahaja Yoga I have seen people are rather shy. They don't want > to talk about Sahaja Yoga openly to others, which is a very wrong > thing you are doing because you are responsible for this world. You > have been given realisation. Of course you are seeking, everything is > all right, but all of you must try to give realisation to others. I > must say that somehow, men have been more dynamic, working it out. > The women in Sahaja Yoga are not yet coming up to that level as they > should. They have to be more sensible about it and they have to work > it out. You can do it, but only trouble is, I think, they have > certain minor problems about which they are worried. > > Always I get letters from ladies, saying: " This is wrong, that is > wrong " , complaining all the time. Then I am so fed up of their > letters now that I think they are useless to read them also. > > So, I have to tell you all that it is important that men, because > they are dynamic, women should be much more because they are Shaktis > and I am a woman. So I find that the men are more sort of active and > dynamic about Sahaja Yoga and I don't know what is the reason why > women are not. They can transform so many people; they can do so much > good to others, they can bring so much love and compassion, because > this love and compassion is a quality of a mother, of a woman and if > the women don't have that quality it's useless to be a woman. All the > time if you are busy about your useless thing like fashions, or faces > and all that, then the time is all wasted. > > We have a short time now, you got your realisation and you must > decide: what have you done so far? what have you achieved so far? > > But I would say that also in Sahaja Yoga I found that there are all > kinds of funny ideas growing. Like certain rituals they will take up, > then they prescribe certain rituals, they'll talk about it and a kind > of a power orientation is there. They want to oppress others and they > want to take over and frighten people and behave in such a manner > that, as if they are very good. Some of them start saying > that: " Mataji said so. This is Mataji's idea. " By their own power > orientation, they manufacture things and talk like that. But ask > them: " How many have you given realisation? " First thing you must > determine is positively how many you have given realisation. He is > just talking about others, criticising others, talking about the > defects of Sahaja Yoga, sin in Sahaja Yoga. I would say is still > a very preliminary things that have happened before and it should > stop now. > > Now, as it is, once this book is out, all over the world that will be > known about our work, will be not challenged any more. But still we > have to see for ourselves that if we have achieved this kind of > recognition, then we should be up to that, our capability should be > up to that. We should not be lagging behind. For example, if you ask > some Sahaja Yogis, specially Sahaja Yoginis, they don't know much > about Sahaja Yoga; they don't know about chakras, they don't know > anything about the deities; nothing they know, how can they be Sahaja > Yogis? You have to know all about it. > > Only thing that you don't realise that it's not outside that you are > a Sahaja Yogi, but it is inside. Inside you have to have that kind of > an understanding of the chakras and of Sahaja Yoga, how it works, how > it helps you. > > Now, supposing if I am the source of that energy - which you know > very well I am - then you achieve yours also a kind of a perfection > about dealing with people and bringing them to Sahaja Yoga. It's a > very important work you have to do is to bring Sahaja Yogis in Sahaja > Yoga. > > What I find that some people are very much still lagging behind and > is very surprising that they live in that country, they are part and > parcel of that country and they are not bothered. Under these > circumstances, they will be blamed that: " Why didn't you do? Why > didn't you find out the ways and methods of convincing at least your > country men? " > > So, Sahaja Yoga is at the brink of growth, cannot grow only with one > > country or two countries. All the countries have to be brought into > Sahaja Yoga. All the people that we could call into Sahaja Yoga will > be a very good idea and then we have books to convince people, we > have to talk to them about it. > > But what I find about Sahaja Yogis that once they start spreading > Sahaja Yoga, also their ego comes up and it thinks they are very > great Sahaja Yogis, they are great leaders, all these kinds of stupid > ideas are working into their heads, which is wrong. You have just to > stay in a very humble manner. The more you have, the more you become > humble, like a tree when laden with fruits bends down. In the same > way, you have to be very humble, but that humility is sometimes very > difficult because the culture of the West is not humble culture. It's > a culture of aggression, culture of domination. So far they have > been... they think because of domination they could go all over the > world, they could achieve so many things. What have they achieved? > Nothing! In their own countries, if you see, there is drug addiction. > Why should people take to drug so much? Then all kinds of sinful > things they do, which I don't want to mention, but you know what > they are doing, which in India, which is a poorer country, one cannot > even think about it. Such things are happening around you. So, find > out what's wrong, where and how you can correct these things, if you > can help them. > > Actually, now as I told you, I'm going to start some sort of > organisation that will do good to human beings, but you all can join > also, you can also start in your own countries something like that. > But first you have to get rid of your ego. That once happens to you, > then only your attention will be steady. And this ego is very simple > for you, because you worship Christ. And the Christ is the one who > was settled on the Agnya chakra. You all worship Christ, but that > humility of Christ is not there. Just the opposite of it. It has > happened everywhere, that whatever is preached in the religion, > people did just the opposite of it. For example, Hindu religion, I > would say Hindu philosophy, is that in everybody resides the > spirit. Now, in everybody if there is spirit, then how can you have > different caste systems and how can you have somebody higher and > lower? > > Other way round, now Christ has said, that: " You have to forgive, > forgive everyone and you have to humble down. " And that's what one > finds, that among Christians they don't know humility. They have no > idea of humility. Men are like that, women are like that, and the men > and women, then, go on fighting. There is no question of anybody > being humble, peaceful and all that. So, it is very artificially they > are showing off that they are very philanthropist and all that, but > inside in their heart, I don't find there is any love, there is any > compassion in the real sense of the word. > > So, when we are dealing with reality, you have to know that we cannot > just go on doing things which are artificial, which are befooling > others, but we have to really become that. Once you become that, when > you are really like that, then only you have done the job for which > you are born at this juncture of blossom times. Otherwise, you could > have been born earlier and could have been something different. But > you are specially born, so you realise your value, you realise > yourself what you are and try to understand, have self-respect and > try to do things which are very important as Sahaja Yogis. Of course > you are doing your job, you are doing other things, but you will be > amazed, if you do the work of Sahaja Yoga, you'll find more time for > everything. Once you start doing God's work, God does your work and > that's how you will be amazed how you get so much time to do the > right thing. > > Now, it is for you to go back and introspect, see for yourself. Now, > the Adi Shakti Herself has come, but I am very simple, I am very > simple to look at. In My behaviour, I am very, very humble and people > take Me for granted. I don't do anything, I don't want to punish you, > I don't want to do anything, but you yourself get punished, you > yourself become useless, if you do not look after yourself and grow > yourself. > > This finding is so great and this man had never known Me before. He > is very learned, but he is very humble and what he told Me that, just > imagine: " I am sitting before the Creator of this world and still I > am very normal. " I said: " What should happen to you? What do you > think? " He said: " Mother, it is a big thing to realise that I am > sitting before You and that You are here. " I said: " It's good that > you don't feel My presence so oppressive, so dominating, I'm very > happy. " He says: " I just feel the love, I just feel the compassion. " > That's what it is. We have to know that we should just have love and > compassion. Compassion and love for ourselves in the way that we > should not harm anybody's heart. To say something, to hurt someone is > very sinful. But some people enjoy that very much; they think they > are very clever, it is not so. When you talk to someone, you must say > something which is very soothing and good. > > Another thing is the temper of a person, is the temper like, the > slightest thing here and there, they get into temper. Now, this has > to be told this temper that: " You should keep quiet, I have nothing > to do with you! " That is one thing. Then there are people who are > very subtly, I should say, power-oriented, very subtle. They have > tricks of the trade by which they know how to control others. What > are you going to gain out of it? What is your gain? By doing all > these things, what will happen? In these worldly things, you might be > a little bit popular, a little bit having a position or something, > but what is it after all? That is not going to help you. > > What is going to help you the most is to make yourself a perfect > channel for Sahaja Yoga, to be a perfect channel. In that, you will > be amazed how you'll be helped. So, I would say for you people, who > are in the West, I would say you must develop humility. It's very > important. > > I was surprised in Russia itself, the people are not only humble, but > such dedication, such dedication, unbelievable! They don't even raise > their eyes to Me. I don't know how they got this idea. This is not > after the discovering, but even before that. They were so nice and so > humble and so full of love. And even the children brought Me small, > small presents, you know, just to give Me, so sweetly. This is > something surprising how these people in Russia have achieved that > capability to become. And I think, in the West, Russia is the country > which will achieve a very great height in spirituality. And that > means they will be the most powerful people. > > Let us see what you are doing in your own country and how you are > going to work it out. There is so many things you can do, very > easily, if you see for yourself that you are the instrument of the > Divine. And then your temperament will change, the nature will > change, you'll become a very, very sweet person, likeable person and > everybody will think that this is a saint walking around. So, that's > all I have to say about this. Whatever is the discovery is not a > discovery for Me, but a discovery for the whole world, and I am sure > once it is established and is exposed to the whole world, things will > change for you and for Me also. > > May God bless you! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 , " magdca " <gerlindesattler wrote: > Jagbir and Violet, with regards to the existence of Akimov's book, > I can confirm that a Yogi in the local collective here has a copy of > Akimov's book published in the Russian language. I don't know if it > was ever translated into English. Dear Gerlinde et al, That is a real interesting fact! The person must have been able to read the Russian language to have the book. Maybe not! In any case, since Shri Mataji said it was so important, i wonder why it has never even been translated into English? Some people can write their novels hinting at Sahaja Yoga, but others whose books Shri Mataji said were very important, don't seem to be getting out there very fast - not even being published in the English language as yet! It is intriguing to me that books that Shri Mataji says are important, are taking so long to get out. Is She maybe keeping all the best books till last, or is there something else we don't know about! Surely with the money WCASY have at their fingertips, they could help this book to be published into English at least, especially since Shri Mataji said it was so very important. Btw. Gerlinde, did you hear any nice comments about the book, that you could share with us? i would love to know what was written! Warm regards, violet > Dear Jagbir, Violet and All, > > Jagbir, your forthrightness in not only acknowledging the 'error' > pertaining to the above question but also setting forth immediately > to clarify for me and other forum members the reasons behind its original occurrence is much appreciated. > > Thanks, too, for the in-depth, valuable response to message #9000 " The Central Message of Comforter, Last Judgment, and Kingdom of God. " > > Jagbir and Violet, with regards to the existence of Akimov's book, I can confirm that a Yogi in the local collective here has a copy of > Akimov's book published in the Russian language. I don't know if it was ever translated into English. > > Warm regards, > Gerlinde > , " jagbir singh " > <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > Dear Gerlinde and all, > > > > i wish to clarify your question on the forum as others may have the > > same question on their mind. > > > > Yes, a few years ago after the book was finished Dr. Balwinder did > > point the same too. i read that speech of Shri Mataji again and > > realized that She may have been talking about Akimov's book. > > > > Subsequently i began erasing all references of the quote to SHRI > ADI > > SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF GOD. i could not do the same for the Table > of > > Contents as the book was already done, and i left the TOC as it > was. > > > > At that time i was pretty sure that Shri Mataji was referring to > SHRI > > ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF GOD due to the sheer breath and depth of > > the Devi's revelations in the Sahasrara and Her triggering of the > > Sure Signs of the Last Judgment and Al-Qiyamah. i could not > > understand then how, after Akimov's book is published, " all over > the > > world that will be known about our work, will be not challenged any > > more " . Today i am definite that has not happened, and is not going > to > > ever happen. (i don't even know if Akimov's book exists in the > first > > place.) So you have to forgive me for assuming that Shri Mataji was > > talking about my book. > > > > There is another reason too. Prior to seeking the physical Shri > > Mataji's permission i sought that of the eternal Adi Shakti in the > > Sahasrara to publish the book. The Devi agreed. So naturally i > > assumed that as Her incarnation, Shri Mataji is referring to that > > too. Moreover i had already sought Her permission in Toronto > twice - > > first in a clothing store and the second in Her hotel suite where > > Shri Mataji told the leaders and SYs present that permission had > > already been granted previously, and there was no need to ask > again. > > This second audience with Shri Mataji was just prior to the 1998 > Adi > > Shakti puja at Cabella, Italy. So it was only natural for me to > > assume that Shri Mataji was talking about SHRI ADI SHAKTI: THE > > KINGDOM OF GOD. > > > > Today, more the ever before, that 'error' of mine only seems to be > > becoming more true than false. i hope the Devi within over time > proves > > that " all over the world that will be known about our work, will be > > not challenged any more " . After all, SHRI ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM > OF > > GOD records all that She has revealed to humanity. So far no > > religious organization, priest, pastor, reverend, bishop, pope, > > rabbi, cleric, imam, mullah, shaikh, ulema, ayatollah, guru, swami, > > pandit, brahmin, acarya, bhagwan, granthi, giani, lama, monk, dalai > > lamas or false guru buster has challenged it. One day all over the > > world _that_ will be known. May the Devi prove that my deep faith > and > > conviction was never an error. > > > > regards to all, > > > > jagbir > > > > > > > > On Feb 3, 2008 8:25 PM, Gerlinde Sattler > > <gerlindesattler@> wrote: > > > > Dear Jagbir, > > > > Recently I read the puja talk of > > > > [ADI SHAKTI PUJA - Being Sahaja Yogis, you are responsible for the > > whole world [this phrase is on the tape cover of my personal tape ] > > > > 21 june 1998 - Cabella Ligure (Italia).......... > > > > which I've copied in its entirety further down and in which the > > following quote is to be found: > > > > " Now, as it is, once this book is out, all over the world that will > > be known about our work, will be not challenged any more. But still > > we have to see for ourselves that if we have achieved this kind of > > recognition, then we should be up to that, our capability should be > > up to that. " > > > > I recalled this quote from the first time I had encountered the > > adishakti.org site, because it made a great impression on me as it > > concerned Shri Mataji giving you the permission to publish your ADI > > SHAKTI: KINGDOM OF GOD book in the Third and Final Permission To > > Publish: " Once This Book Is Out . . . " 120 under the > > http://www.adishakti.org/table_of_contents.htm > > TABLE OF CONTENTS also found below. > > > > Why I'm mentioning this to you is that the source of this quote > [shri > > Mataji Nirmala Devi, You Must Develop Humility, Shri Adi Shakti > Puja, > > Cabella, Italy – May 21, 1998] is different from the puja talk I > just > > read. [ADI SHAKTI PUJA, Being Sahaja Yogis, you are responsible for > > the whole world 21 June 1998, Cabella, Ligure, Italia] Perhaps this > > same quote was found in both sources, and if so, that should, I > > believe, be clarified for others wishing to negate your work. > > > > One added item of importance to clarify is this: > > > > In the June 21, 1998 ADI SHAKTI PUJA in which an intro by Guido > Lanza > > was made about Anatoli Akimov and his upcoming book, another > > reference was made by Shri Mataji about Her Own book and Akimov's > > book in Her Puja talk. To which of these books was HER reference > made > > in HER following quote: > > > > " Now, as it is, once this book is out, all over the world that > will be > > known about our work, will be not challenged any more. But still we > > have to see for ourselves that if we have achieved this kind of > > recognition, then we should be up to that, our capability should be > > up to that. " > > > > - Anatoli Akimov, Shri Mataji, OR Adi Shakti:Kingdom of God? > > > > > > I'm concerned that the present quote [ Third and Final Permission > To > > Publish: " Once This Book Is Out . . . " 120 under the > > http://www.adishakti.org/table_of_contents.htm TABLE OF CONTENTS > also > > found below] which seemingly points to Shri Mataji referring to > your > > book, may be interpreted as erroneous, since it could also be > > referring to Akimov's book or Shri Mataji's Own book as you can > > verify for yourself in the following and in the continued Puja talk > > found further down this page: > > > > ADI SHAKTI PUJA > > > > 21 june 1998 - Cabella Ligure (Italia) > > > > [introduction by Guido Lanza, regarding a scientific conference in > > Moscow.] > > > > " And he [Akimov] has already written a book in Russia which will > be > > translated in English and he is preparing a new book on which of > > course the major topic will be this unique discovery. So now we > have > > somebody who has scientifically proved what Shri Mataji is. " > > (applause) > > > > Perhaps I'm needlessly concerning myself about this, but I feel > that > > this is an area that could easily be misconstrued as Shri Mataji > NOT > > having given permission to publish the ADI SHAKTI:KINGDOM OF GOD at > > all, but rather that SHE is referring to AKIMOV's book, since much > of > > the puja talk seems to refer back to Akimov's discovery and the > puja > > talk does not give mention, as far as I can see, to ADI SHAKTI :THE > > KINGDOM OF GOD at all. > > > > Pardon me if I'm wrong, but I rather think it would be preferable > and > > indeed even necessary to have no perceived ambiguity here. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Gerlinde > > > > --------------- > > > > > > 88888888888888888888888888888888888 > > > > > > Please continue to view the highlighted areas. This should help to > > clarify what I'm trying to say. > > > > > > http://www.adishakti.org/table_of_contents.htm > > TABLE OF CONTENTS > > > > Preface 12 > > The First Permission From The Spirit Of The Living God In The > > Sahasrara 13 > > " I Am The Adi Shakti . . . You People Have To Prove It That I Am > > THAT! " 15 > > The Ancient Beings Are Coming! 16 > > " The Falsehood Of All Outside Religions . . . Will Be Exposed " > 17 > > " For Standing Up For The Truth Of Any Cause Is The War Of > Dharma " 19 > > The Material Marathon 20 > > A 'divine' mother?!!! 21 > > " I Feel Peaceful. " 22 > > A 'Cool Breeze'?! A Cool Breeze?!! (Or the Breath Of God > > Almighty?!!!) 25 > > " The First Doubt Which Is Very Common Is, " Who Is Mataji? " " 26 > > TABLE OF CONTENTS 28 > > > > PART ONE > > Chapter 1 > > > > The Universal Question: Why Are We Here On Earth? 47 > > " How Does One Meet A True Guru? " 48 > > O Speak Almighty God! 50 > > " JOIN SHRI MATAJI! " 51 > > The Manna Monsoon Of Many Moons 55 > > The Decadent Decades 57 > > Satnaam: The Imperishable Word 61 > > " Thou Art The Pristine Spirit . . . Which Illuminates And Breaks > The > > Self-Hypnotism " 62 > > " In Thee Is My Only Haven And Refuge . . . O Bhavani! " 64 > > Meaning Of Avatar Or Incarnation 65 > > " The Highest Manifestation Of God Almighty Is As Mother " 70 > > " It Is For The Benevolence Of The Whole Human Race " 71 > > " First Is Self-Realization . . . What is God-Realization? " 72 > > " Tell All The Nations And Tell All The People All Over The Great > > Message " 76 > > The Spiritual Monsoon Begins 77 > > Earth Is A Conscious, Living Mother 78 > > Mother Earth: The Womb Of The Universe 81 > > The Woman Of Great Beauty 84 > > Overriding Fundamental Difference 85 > > Swami Satyananda: " Who Will Give Me The Proper Answer? " 86 > > The Initial Rejection 89 > > " You Have Seen Photographs Of Angels Around You " 90 > > " Assuredly, What Ye Are Promised Must Come To Pass " 92 > > " We Have Done Our Job Here " 93 > > " It Is Not A Blind Faith! " 94 > > " Sure, You Should Tell Them. " 95 > > " In The Age of Aquarius, Even The Skeptics Will Believe " 96 > > " Now You Have Entered Into The Kingdom Of God " 97 > > The First Permission In The Sahasrara 98 > > The Five Divine Days 99 > > The Golden Goddess Of The Sahasrara 100 > > " This Is The First Time In History . . . " 101 > > But Why A Religious Pariah? 102 > > Evolution: The Relentless Rebirth Of Species 104 > > But How Does God Almighty Know Everything? 106 > > The Second Permission 107 > > " They Do Not Know From Where They Get This Knowledge " 111 > > He Is A Child Of Darkness 114 > > They Must Leave Her School! 115 > > They Will Be Expelled! 116 > > We Will Leave, But Not Withdraw 117 > > Third and Final Permission To Publish: " Once This Book Is > > Out . . . " 120 > > > > > > CONTENTS:- > > > > PART ONE: > > The Dawn of the Divine Millennium > > > > PART TWO: > > And the Arrival Of The Kingdom Of God > > > > PART THREE: > > The Morning Of The Spiritual Monsoon > > > > PART FOUR: > > Lord Jesus Christ, The Universal Saviour > > The Antichrist And The Prince Of Carnal Life > > The Book Of Revelation > > > > PART FIVE: > > Shri Buddha, The Awakened One > > The Tao of Shri Lao-Tzu > > The Aykaa Mayee of Guru Nanak > > > > PART SIX: > > Prophet Muhammad, The Messenger of God > > The Holy Qur'an, Revelation Par Excellence > > The Sure Signs of Allah > > The Good News of Qiyamah > > Ibis The Great Deceiver > > > > PART SEVEN: > > The Missing Years > > The New Age Pimps > > The Prophecies of Nostradamus > > > > " Once this book is out all over the world, it will be known about > our > > Work. We'll not be challenged any more. But still we have to see > for > > ourselves, that if we have this kind of recognition or not…our > > capabilities should be up to that. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > You Must Develop Humility, Shri Adi Shakti Puja > > Cabella, Italy – May 21, 1998 > > > > Welcome to the Millennium of the Spirit, the Millennium of the > Great > > Adi Shakti Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. > > > > Merry Christmas and Peace on Earth. > > > > Jagbir Singh > > > > > > > > ................................................ > > > > The title here - Being Sahaja Yogis, you are...... comes from the > > tape I have, Jagbir. > > > > > > [ADI SHAKTI PUJA - Being Sahaja Yogis, you are responsible for the > > whole world > > > > 21 june 1998 - Cabella Ligure (Italia)........... > > > > Now, as it is, once this book is out, all over the world that will > > be known about our work, will be not challenged any more. But still > > we have to see for ourselves that if we have achieved this kind of > > recognition, then we should be up to that, our capability should be > > up to that. We should not be lagging behind. For example, if you > ask > > some Sahaja Yogis, specially Sahaja Yoginis, they don't know much > > about Sahaja Yoga; they don't know about chakras, they don't know > > anything about the deities; nothing they know, how can they be > Sahaja > > Yogis? You have to know all about it. > > > > Only thing that you don't realise that it's not outside that you > are > > a Sahaja Yogi, but it is inside. Inside you have to have that kind > of > > an understanding of the chakras and of Sahaja Yoga, how it works, > how > > it helps you. > > > > Now, supposing if I am the source of that energy - which you know > > very well I am - then you achieve yours also a kind of a perfection > > about dealing with people and bringing them to Sahaja Yoga. It's a > > very important work you have to do is to bring Sahaja Yogis in > Sahaja > > Yoga. ] > > > > > > > > *************** > > > > > > > > ADI SHAKTI PUJA > > > > 21 june 1998 - Cabella Ligure (Italia) > > > > [introduction by Guido Lanza, regarding a scientific conference in > > Moscow.] > > > > Shri Mataji has asked me to share with you what was the last > > experience of Her Divine visit in Russia. And I must say it was > > really a dramatic breakthrough, because in the scientific > conference > > She had in Moscow, there was the participation of a very well known > > scientist, a physicist. > > > > His name is Anatoli Akimov, he is very well known all over Russia > and > > all over the world also. > > > > And he came with a theory and he has been studying this theory for > a > > few years, which is based on the vacuum body and he studied > something > > like the torsion fields and he could explain in a very clear way, > in > > a very scientific way, the vibrations that Shri Mataji is emitting. > > > > So, at the beginning he was studying some Yogis which were > meditating > > and he could notice that they were emitting vibrations, there was > an > > aura around them. But then, when he came to Shri Mataji, when he > saw > > Her pictures, the miraculous pictures, then he could really find > out > > what it was and he said that in Her case, it was something which is > > infinite, which is unlimited. > > > > And also it was very nice, because at one point he said: " As a man > of > > science, I have to admit that all the scientists that so far made > > some exceptional, unique discovery..., I have to admit that all > this > > did not come through some scientific process, through the brain, we > > can say. But it came only through some divine inspiration. We can > > mention Newton, we can mention Einstein and so on. " And he > > said: " Also in my case, when I was studying and working on this > > theory, at some point when I saw the picture of Shri Mataji, then I > > got the inspiration. " > > > > And then now Shri Mataji has invited him in September to come. And > he > > has already written a book in Russia which will be translated in > > English and he is preparing a new book on which of course the major > > topic will be this unique discovery. So now we have somebody who > has > > scientifically proved what Shri Mataji is. (applause) > > > > [start of Shri Mataji's talk] > > > > In Russia, the people, somehow are very open-minded. Not only that, > > the scientists especially are very open-minded and were suppressed > > very much. So, they tried to find out the subtler things, not only > > finding out about chemicals or about some physical properties of > the > > light, but they wanted to go into the subtler side and they had > found > > out already a great deal of knowledge about the auras around the > > hands, auras around the body. They had done so much of research and > > it was accepted all over the world their findings. > > > > Now, this gentleman was a specialist, I think, because he is a very > > well known, very, very well-known person and he is holding a very > big > > position. He was saying that he has to run 150 organisations, very > > humble and very nice person. And when he came out with this > > discovery, I was happy in a way, because scientifically if it is > > proved, then nobody can challenge it. He has already written a book > > with all the algebraic complications of what he wanted to prove. > And > > he said that there is a vacuum beyond the consciousness. There is a > > vacuum and in that vacuum only, you can know the reality and once > all > > this becomes the reality, it is a science and that's how it is made > > into science. > > > > He showed so many of My photographs, specially the one where a lot > of > > energy is coming out of My Sahasrara when we were on a boat. So, he > > said: " She is the source of all the cosmic energy. " And that's what > > Adi Shakti is. She is the One who creates everything. > > > > The whole atmosphere that we know of is very artificial, but when > you > > understand what She has done, it's the first thing She does is to - > > and in My book also I have written down about it - but I would like > > to tell you that Her first, we should say, manifestation is on the > > left hand side. That's the Mahakali's manifestation. So, She comes > on > > the Mahakali system, the left hand side and that is where She > created > > Ganesha. Shri Ganesha is created because His purity, His innocence > > and auspiciousness, this had to be created before She created the > > universe. > > > > So, first thing She does is to create Shri Ganesha and She settles > > down. Then She goes up, of course, in the body of the Virata and > then > > She goes round and goes up on the right hand side, in the other way > > and there She creates all the universes, as we call them, bhuvanas, > > one universe. There are 14 bhuvanas, means there is many, many > > universes made, make one bhuvana and She creates all these things > on > > the right hand side. Then She goes up and then She descends down > > creating all the chakras, Adi chakras or the pittas. She comes > down, > > makes all these pittas and then She settles as the Kundalini. > > > > But Adi Shakti is not fully the Kundalini. We can say Kundalini is > a > > part of it; the rest of the work is much more than this. So, we > call > > it the residual energy, means after going through all this journey, > > then She comes round and She goes as Kundalini. Because of this > > Kundalini and the chakras, She creates an area which we call as the > > chakras in the body. > > > > Now, first She creates these chakras in the head, we call them the > > pittas of the chakras and then She comes down and creates these > > chakras which are in the body of the Virata. Now, once this has > > happened, then She creates human beings, but not directly, through > > the evolutionary process, She goes through and that's how the > > evolution starts and then it starts developing from the minute, > small > > little microscopic organisms in the water and then it starts > > evolving. So, when She creates water and She creates all the > > universes, She chooses this Mother Earth as the best place to play > > Her evolutionary process and there She makes this little > microscopic > > thing. > > > > Of course, I have written all about it and when My book will be > > released, you can see that: how first hydrogen, carbon and oxygen > and > > all of these things they are mixed up and how nitrogen comes in to > > play and how a living process starts. All this I have done it in > > another book that I am going to write now. I mean, I have mostly > > finished, but there is some more chakras I have to deal with. Now > > with this happening, you see, one thing is there, that now, > whatever > > I write, now people won't doubt. They will know it is scientific > fact > > and that's what, whatever I say is a fact. > > > > Now to believe in the Mother, Adi Shakti was impossible. > Especially, > > you'll be amazed that Christian religion, some way or other, > avoided > > it, the mentioning of the Mother. Then the Islam, that also avoided > > the mentioning of the Mother. There's completely negation towards > the > > Mother. But only Indian philosophy had the Mother and the Indians > are > > actually Shakti worshippers. So, this is how it was kept up and > > brought to this position now that people have got full idea as to > > Mother principle that has worked out everything. > > > > On this Mother principle, in India, people are very sure that it > is a > > Mother who does everything and thus we have in India many, we > should > > say, many swayambhus, means things that are created of the Mother > > Earth. For example you know in Maharashtra, we have got Mahakali's > > place, Mahasaraswati, Mahalakshmi and also we have got a place for > > the Adi Shakti. > > > > Some people who have been to Nasik must have seen Chatur Shingi. > How > > many people have you been to Chatur Shingi out of you? It's good. > So, > > this Chatur Shingi represents the Adi Shakti which is the fourth > > dimension of this power which gives you the ascent and ultimately > > through Mahalakshmi channel only, you get your realisation. > > > > All this is a process, all was created by the power of Adi Shakti. > > It's a tremendous task. The previous ones were not so difficult > > because they're for nature to create, it was very easy, the Mother > > Earth is one with the Adi Shakti, the whole atmosphere is one with > > the Adi Shakti, all the elements are one with the Adi Shakti. So > She > > could create all that without any difficulties. > > > > But when human beings came, they got their freedom. That's the > only, > > I should say, the species which fell into the maya of thinking and > of > > having the ego in them. With this ego a maya worked on them, I > should > > say, and they forgot about the principle that created this > universe. > > They took it for granted. They felt that this is their own right, > > that they are there, this is their own achievement and they are the > > owners of everything. > > > > This started working in their mind so much that they invaded other > > countries, they destroyed so many people and they never felt bad > > about it. All their lives they have been thinking about aggressing > > others, controlling others and doing all kinds of harmful things. > But > > they never even thought or never did any introspection to see that > > what we are doing is very, very wrong and it should not be done. > > Because of the freedom they have, such a turmoil in this world and > > the people who were in charge of affairs, they were very, very > cruel > > and extremely... had no feelings for the other people. And this > > happened so many times on this earth. > > > > Now, Sahaja Yoga has started. Once Sahaja Yoga has started, we have > > Sahaja Yogis who are now receiving the blessings of the Adi Shakti > > directly. But still, I must say, among Sahaja Yogis also, we don't > > have people whom I would call as very well matured. There are > Sahaja > > Yogis, some of them are just because it is a fashion; maybe it > should > > be better from their angle or from their selfish angle or whatever > it > > is. It's a very wrong thing. If you are in Sahaja Yoga, you must > > know, now you are responsible for the whole world. You are the only > > people who have come forward. You are the only people who have > > achieved something and then at this juncture, you should behave in > a > > manner that behooves a big saint or a realised soul. > > > > But sometimes you find them behaving in such a manner, it's > shocking > > sometimes. They have no respect for themselves or for others and > > their whole attitude is very funny. Some of them are money- > oriented, > > some of them are power-oriented. And those who are power-oriented > are > > more dangerous I think than money-oriented. Because those who are > > power-oriented try to bring such bad name to Sahaja Yoga. They are > > very insulting, dominating and horrible people. Their whole > attitude > > is to achieve power in Sahaja Yoga and they try all tricks to > achieve > > that power. But for some time they look all right. After some time, > > you'll find they'll all disappear from the field of Sahaja Yoga. > It's > > a very big cleansing process going on. > > > > You must understand that you have come in the field of very high > > consciousness where you are in contact with the Divine. Now here, > if > > you behave like ordinary people who have no divinity within them, > how > > long will you continue like this? So, this is very important that > you > > should try to meditate and evolve yourselves and become really, > very > > good Sahaja Yogis. In some places we are very, very lucky. In some > > countries we are very, very lucky, but in some countries I find the > > people are just deaf and dumb; they can't understand Sahaja Yoga. > For > > My programme they do come and afterwards they just disappear. This > > one, I think is also,... Sahaja Yogis are responsible for this, the > > way they go about, the way they want to do Sahaj work is not Sahaj. > > Must be something definitely wrong with the whole thing and that's > > why it's not working out the same way as it is working out in many > > places. > > > > So, I have to tell you that all this is there, that Adi Shakti is > > there and all this has happened through Adi Shakti. But now, the > > further work has to be done through you people, because you are the > > channels, you are the ones who have to transform people. And > > everybody should understand and know how many people we have given > > realisation. We have to think of it. What have we done for Sahaja > > Yoga? > > > > Once I was travelling by plane and I met a lady who was sitting > next > > to Me. She was so hot, I couldn't understand. Then she told Me she > is > > a disciple of a guru, very proud of it and she started telling Me > all > > about him. I was amazed that, look at this woman, she hasn't got > > anything from him and she was just saying: " I had given so much > money > > to him and I have done this thing to him " and all those things. But > > she had nothing. And despite that, she was talking to Me, a > stranger > > person, about the guru. > > > > But in Sahaja Yoga I have seen people are rather shy. They don't > want > > to talk about Sahaja Yoga openly to others, which is a very wrong > > thing you are doing because you are responsible for this world. You > > have been given realisation. Of course you are seeking, everything > is > > all right, but all of you must try to give realisation to others. I > > must say that somehow, men have been more dynamic, working it out. > > The women in Sahaja Yoga are not yet coming up to that level as > they > > should. They have to be more sensible about it and they have to > work > > it out. You can do it, but only trouble is, I think, they have > > certain minor problems about which they are worried. > > > > Always I get letters from ladies, saying: " This is wrong, that is > > wrong " , complaining all the time. Then I am so fed up of their > > letters now that I think they are useless to read them also. > > > > So, I have to tell you all that it is important that men, because > > they are dynamic, women should be much more because they are > Shaktis > > and I am a woman. So I find that the men are more sort of active > and > > dynamic about Sahaja Yoga and I don't know what is the reason why > > women are not. They can transform so many people; they can do so > much > > good to others, they can bring so much love and compassion, because > > this love and compassion is a quality of a mother, of a woman and > if > > the women don't have that quality it's useless to be a woman. All > the > > time if you are busy about your useless thing like fashions, or > faces > > and all that, then the time is all wasted. > > > > We have a short time now, you got your realisation and you must > > decide: what have you done so far? what have you achieved so far? > > > > But I would say that also in Sahaja Yoga I found that there are all > > kinds of funny ideas growing. Like certain rituals they will take > up, > > then they prescribe certain rituals, they'll talk about it and a > kind > > of a power orientation is there. They want to oppress others and > they > > want to take over and frighten people and behave in such a manner > > that, as if they are very good. Some of them start saying > > that: " Mataji said so. This is Mataji's idea. " By their own power > > orientation, they manufacture things and talk like that. But ask > > them: " How many have you given realisation? " First thing you must > > determine is positively how many you have given realisation. He is > > just talking about others, criticising others, talking about the > > defects of Sahaja Yoga, sin in Sahaja Yoga. I would say is still > > a very preliminary things that have happened before and it should > > stop now. > > > > Now, as it is, once this book is out, all over the world that will > be > > known about our work, will be not challenged any more. But still we > > have to see for ourselves that if we have achieved this kind of > > recognition, then we should be up to that, our capability should be > > up to that. We should not be lagging behind. For example, if you > ask > > some Sahaja Yogis, specially Sahaja Yoginis, they don't know much > > about Sahaja Yoga; they don't know about chakras, they don't know > > anything about the deities; nothing they know, how can they be > Sahaja > > Yogis? You have to know all about it. > > > > Only thing that you don't realise that it's not outside that you > are > > a Sahaja Yogi, but it is inside. Inside you have to have that kind > of > > an understanding of the chakras and of Sahaja Yoga, how it works, > how > > it helps you. > > > > Now, supposing if I am the source of that energy - which you know > > very well I am - then you achieve yours also a kind of a perfection > > about dealing with people and bringing them to Sahaja Yoga. It's a > > very important work you have to do is to bring Sahaja Yogis in > Sahaja > > Yoga. > > > > What I find that some people are very much still lagging behind and > > is very surprising that they live in that country, they are part > and > > parcel of that country and they are not bothered. Under these > > circumstances, they will be blamed that: " Why didn't you do? Why > > didn't you find out the ways and methods of convincing at least > your > > country men? " > > > > So, Sahaja Yoga is at the brink of growth, cannot grow only with > one > > > > country or two countries. All the countries have to be brought into > > Sahaja Yoga. All the people that we could call into Sahaja Yoga > will > > be a very good idea and then we have books to convince people, we > > have to talk to them about it. > > > > But what I find about Sahaja Yogis that once they start spreading > > Sahaja Yoga, also their ego comes up and it thinks they are very > > great Sahaja Yogis, they are great leaders, all these kinds of > stupid > > ideas are working into their heads, which is wrong. You have just > to > > stay in a very humble manner. The more you have, the more you > become > > humble, like a tree when laden with fruits bends down. In the same > > way, you have to be very humble, but that humility is sometimes > very > > difficult because the culture of the West is not humble culture. > It's > > a culture of aggression, culture of domination. So far they have > > been... they think because of domination they could go all over the > > world, they could achieve so many things. What have they achieved? > > Nothing! In their own countries, if you see, there is drug > addiction. > > Why should people take to drug so much? Then all kinds of sinful > > things they do, which I don't want to mention, but you know what > > they are doing, which in India, which is a poorer country, one > cannot > > even think about it. Such things are happening around you. So, find > > out what's wrong, where and how you can correct these things, if > you > > can help them. > > > > Actually, now as I told you, I'm going to start some sort of > > organisation that will do good to human beings, but you all can > join > > also, you can also start in your own countries something like that. > > But first you have to get rid of your ego. That once happens to > you, > > then only your attention will be steady. And this ego is very > simple > > for you, because you worship Christ. And the Christ is the one who > > was settled on the Agnya chakra. You all worship Christ, but that > > humility of Christ is not there. Just the opposite of it. It has > > happened everywhere, that whatever is preached in the religion, > > people did just the opposite of it. For example, Hindu religion, I > > would say Hindu philosophy, is that in everybody resides the > > spirit. Now, in everybody if there is spirit, then how can you have > > different caste systems and how can you have somebody higher and > > lower? > > > > Other way round, now Christ has said, that: " You have to forgive, > > forgive everyone and you have to humble down. " And that's what one > > finds, that among Christians they don't know humility. They have no > > idea of humility. Men are like that, women are like that, and the > men > > and women, then, go on fighting. There is no question of anybody > > being humble, peaceful and all that. So, it is very artificially > they > > are showing off that they are very philanthropist and all that, but > > inside in their heart, I don't find there is any love, there is any > > compassion in the real sense of the word. > > > > So, when we are dealing with reality, you have to know that we > cannot > > just go on doing things which are artificial, which are befooling > > others, but we have to really become that. Once you become that, > when > > you are really like that, then only you have done the job for which > > you are born at this juncture of blossom times. Otherwise, you > could > > have been born earlier and could have been something different. But > > you are specially born, so you realise your value, you realise > > yourself what you are and try to understand, have self-respect and > > try to do things which are very important as Sahaja Yogis. Of > course > > you are doing your job, you are doing other things, but you will be > > amazed, if you do the work of Sahaja Yoga, you'll find more time > for > > everything. Once you start doing God's work, God does your work and > > that's how you will be amazed how you get so much time to do the > > right thing. > > > > Now, it is for you to go back and introspect, see for yourself. > Now, > > the Adi Shakti Herself has come, but I am very simple, I am very > > simple to look at. In My behaviour, I am very, very humble and > people > > take Me for granted. I don't do anything, I don't want to punish > you, > > I don't want to do anything, but you yourself get punished, you > > yourself become useless, if you do not look after yourself and grow > > yourself. > > > > This finding is so great and this man had never known Me before. He > > is very learned, but he is very humble and what he told Me that, > just > > imagine: " I am sitting before the Creator of this world and still I > > am very normal. " I said: " What should happen to you? What do you > > think? " He said: " Mother, it is a big thing to realise that I am > > sitting before You and that You are here. " I said: " It's good that > > you don't feel My presence so oppressive, so dominating, I'm very > > happy. " He says: " I just feel the love, I just feel the > compassion. " > > That's what it is. We have to know that we should just have love > and > > compassion. Compassion and love for ourselves in the way that we > > should not harm anybody's heart. To say something, to hurt someone > is > > very sinful. But some people enjoy that very much; they think they > > are very clever, it is not so. When you talk to someone, you must > say > > something which is very soothing and good. > > > > Another thing is the temper of a person, is the temper like, the > > slightest thing here and there, they get into temper. Now, this has > > to be told this temper that: " You should keep quiet, I have nothing > > to do with you! " That is one thing. Then there are people who are > > very subtly, I should say, power-oriented, very subtle. They have > > tricks of the trade by which they know how to control others. What > > are you going to gain out of it? What is your gain? By doing all > > these things, what will happen? In these worldly things, you might > be > > a little bit popular, a little bit having a position or something, > > but what is it after all? That is not going to help you. > > > > What is going to help you the most is to make yourself a perfect > > channel for Sahaja Yoga, to be a perfect channel. In that, you will > > be amazed how you'll be helped. So, I would say for you people, who > > are in the West, I would say you must develop humility. It's very > > important. > > > > I was surprised in Russia itself, the people are not only humble, > but > > such dedication, such dedication, unbelievable! They don't even > raise > > their eyes to Me. I don't know how they got this idea. This is not > > after the discovering, but even before that. They were so nice and > so > > humble and so full of love. And even the children brought Me small, > > small presents, you know, just to give Me, so sweetly. This is > > something surprising how these people in Russia have achieved that > > capability to become. And I think, in the West, Russia is the > country > > which will achieve a very great height in spirituality. And that > > means they will be the most powerful people. > > > > Let us see what you are doing in your own country and how you are > > going to work it out. There is so many things you can do, very > > easily, if you see for yourself that you are the instrument of the > > Divine. And then your temperament will change, the nature will > > change, you'll become a very, very sweet person, likeable person > and > > everybody will think that this is a saint walking around. So, > that's > > all I have to say about this. Whatever is the discovery is not a > > discovery for Me, but a discovery for the whole world, and I am > sure > > once it is established and is exposed to the whole world, things > will > > change for you and for Me also. > > > > May God bless you! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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