But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, shall teach you all things

[Guest guest]

Dear Nicole, Jagbir, Gerlinde and All,

 

Nicole, maybe we can use your post of " Christianity and the Vedic Teachings

within it " to address and clarify some of the issues brought up in that article

- instead of posting it " as is " to the HSS (Holy Spirit Shekinah) site. In the

article by Mr. Stephen Knapp, he is suggesting that the stories in the Bible

regarding Christ, are probably of Krishna. i understand that there could have

been some embellishment there, as not much of Jesus's early life was known!

However, we Sahaja Yogis know that Shri Krishna and Shri Jesus are two separate

personalities, who incarnated at two different times for the benevolence of

human beings. It will help to reveal what Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi taught

regarding Shri Krishna and Shri Jesus, along with the mystical evidence given

also, through Jagbir's children.

 

The thing is, we have been given this vast store of knowledge by the Christian

Comforter and we have also been given Her mystical evidence to back up Her

teachings! We really have all the tools to do the work! The issues that Stephen

Knapp and others are raising, are legitimate and honest questions. However these

can never be resolved by material observable facts alone, because these

questions go beyond the material (the physical) to the spiritual. Only mystics

really have the possibility to come close to the truths of the highest spiritual

order, because these truths which are the pure knowledge of the Spirit, are

spiritually discerned; not physically discerned. So the fullest answer comes

from the Divine Incarnations, prophets, seers, mystics and gnostics in general,

i.e. " the body of the witnesses to spiritual truth " !

 

Stephen Knapp also brings up the issue of the Resurrection, i.e. did Jesus die

or just have a yogic trance for three-and-a-half-days, as some are suggesting by

way of a theory? We can also clarify that issue through what Shri Mataji Nirmala

Devi taught, along with Her mystical evidence given. So, on second thoughts,

Nicole, rather than posting your article per se to the HSS, i think we can use

it more as a springboard to address these spiritual issues. The thing is, there

is nothing worse for Christians than to be told that there was no Jesus Christ,

but that He was really Krishna! And there is nothing worse for Christians, than

to be told that Jesus Christ did not die on the cross, but only went into a

yogic trance for three and a half days! Because it is a well-known teaching in

Christianity that " if the Resurrection of Christ did not occur, then our faith

is in vain " ! In other words, if Christ did not really die on the cross, but just

went into a yogic trance for three-and-a-half days, then, technically speaking,

He could not have resurrected!!! So these are the issues we really need to

clarify until they are more widely understood. The writers who are suggesting

that Christ did not die, but only had a yogic trance for three-and-a-half days

and that Christ was probably not incarnated, but that it was Krishna that was

being referred to - have no real evidence to back up their theories; they are

just surmising, based on the minimal material evidence they have.

 

We have much more. We have the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, that Christ said

" would teach us all things " as well as Her mystical evidence that She has given

through the children from Montreal, Canada. These children are separate

witnesses who have not even met Shri Mataji in the flesh, but only in Spirit,

and that's why they are such credible Witnesses! Most Sahaja Yogis haven't

grasped this yet, let alone even entertained the facts, as the Scribes and

Pharisees in Sahaja Yoga Organisation have suppressed them. But they are not

totally suppressed, because we have access to them through the internet! And

together with the Adi Shakti, we have no reason not to go forward in full faith,

with all the knowledge, evidence and tools at our fingertips! We have our work

cut for us, i.e. to clarify these and other issues with the use of the knowledge

given to Sahaja Yogis.

 

regards to all,

 

violet

 

 

,

" Violet " <violetubb wrote:

>

> Dear Jagbir,

>

> Thanks Jagbir, and i'll have a look to see which parts would be

good to include in HSS re Christianity and the Vedic teachings.

>

> warmest regards,

>

> violet

>

>

>

> , " jagbir

> singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote:

> >

> > ,

" Violet " <violetubb@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Jagbir,

> > >

> > > Would you please add this article to " Editor's Choice " in HSS?

> > >

> > > thanks very much,

> > >

> > > violet

> > >

> >

> > Dear Violet,

> >

> > That's done. Let me know which portion(s) of " Christianity and

the

> > Vedic Teachings within it " you want to be included in HSS.

> >

> > warmest regards,

> >

> > jagbir

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Violet and all,

 

You are totally right, i posted the whole article to the forum as i know people

who use to participate are aware of those things.

 

One interesting thing Shri Mataji told us about the relationship between Jesus

Christ and Shri Krishna is the following : Jesus Christ is Jesus for Shri

Yeshoda, the Mother, and Christ for Krishna, the Father, and that Shri Jesus is

pointing his index towards the sky when he refers to His Father. Yet the index

finger is related to ..... Shri Krishna.

 

Love to all

nicole

 

 

--- On Sat, 23/2/08, Violet <violetubb wrote:

 

> Violet <violetubb

> " But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, shall

teach you all things "

>

> Saturday, 23 February, 2008, 3:16 AM

> Dear Nicole, Jagbir, Gerlinde and All,

>

> Nicole, maybe we can use your post of " Christianity

> and the Vedic Teachings within it " to address and

> clarify some of the issues brought up in that article -

> instead of posting it " as is " to the HSS (Holy

> Spirit Shekinah) site. In the article by Mr. Stephen Knapp,

> he is suggesting that the stories in the Bible regarding

> Christ, are probably of Krishna. i understand that there

> could have been some embellishment there, as not much of

> Jesus's early life was known! However, we Sahaja Yogis

> know that Shri Krishna and Shri Jesus are two separate

> personalities, who incarnated at two different times for

> the benevolence of human beings. It will help to reveal

> what Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi taught regarding Shri Krishna

> and Shri Jesus, along with the mystical evidence given also,

> through Jagbir's children.

>

> The thing is, we have been given this vast store of

> knowledge by the Christian Comforter and we have also been

> given Her mystical evidence to back up Her teachings! We

> really have all the tools to do the work! The issues that

> Stephen Knapp and others are raising, are legitimate and

> honest questions. However these can never be resolved by

> material observable facts alone, because these questions go

> beyond the material (the physical) to the spiritual. Only

> mystics really have the possibility to come close to the

> truths of the highest spiritual order, because these truths

> which are the pure knowledge of the Spirit, are spiritually

> discerned; not physically discerned. So the fullest answer

> comes from the Divine Incarnations, prophets, seers,

> mystics and gnostics in general, i.e. " the body of the

> witnesses to spiritual truth " !

>

> Stephen Knapp also brings up the issue of the Resurrection,

> i.e. did Jesus die or just have a yogic trance for

> three-and-a-half-days, as some are suggesting by way of a

> theory? We can also clarify that issue through what Shri

> Mataji Nirmala Devi taught, along with Her mystical

> evidence given. So, on second thoughts, Nicole, rather than

> posting your article per se to the HSS, i think we can use

> it more as a springboard to address these spiritual issues.

> The thing is, there is nothing worse for Christians than to

> be told that there was no Jesus Christ, but that He was

> really Krishna! And there is nothing worse for Christians,

> than to be told that Jesus Christ did not die on the cross,

> but only went into a yogic trance for three and a half days!

> Because it is a well-known teaching in Christianity that

> " if the Resurrection of Christ did not occur, then our

> faith is in vain " ! In other words, if Christ did not

> really die on the cross, but just went into a yogic trance

> for three-and-a-half days, then, technically speaking, He

> could not have resurrected!!! So these are the issues we

> really need to clarify until they are more widely

> understood. The writers who are suggesting that Christ did

> not die, but only had a yogic trance for three-and-a-half

> days and that Christ was probably not incarnated, but that

> it was Krishna that was being referred to - have no real

> evidence to back up their theories; they are just

> surmising, based on the minimal material evidence they

> have.

>

> We have much more. We have the Comforter, the Holy Spirit,

> that Christ said " would teach us all things " as

> well as Her mystical evidence that She has given through

> the children from Montreal, Canada. These children are

> separate witnesses who have not even met Shri Mataji in the

> flesh, but only in Spirit, and that's why they are such

> credible Witnesses! Most Sahaja Yogis haven't grasped

> this yet, let alone even entertained the facts, as the

> Scribes and Pharisees in Sahaja Yoga Organisation have

> suppressed them. But they are not totally suppressed,

> because we have access to them through the internet! And

> together with the Adi Shakti, we have no reason not to go

> forward in full faith, with all the knowledge, evidence and

> tools at our fingertips! We have our work cut for us, i.e.

> to clarify these and other issues with the use of the

> knowledge given to Sahaja Yogis.

>

> regards to all,

>

> violet

>

>

> ,

> " Violet " <violetubb wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jagbir,

> >

> > Thanks Jagbir, and i'll have a look to see which

> parts would be

> good to include in HSS re Christianity and the Vedic

> teachings.

> >

> > warmest regards,

> >

> > violet

> >

> >

> >

> > ,

> " jagbir

> > singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote:

> > >

> > > ,

> " Violet " <violetubb@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Jagbir,

> > > >

> > > > Would you please add this article to

> " Editor's Choice " in HSS?

> > > >

> > > > thanks very much,

> > > >

> > > > violet

> > > >

> > >

> > > Dear Violet,

> > >

> > > That's done. Let me know which portion(s) of

> " Christianity and

> the

> > > Vedic Teachings within it " you want to be

> included in HSS.

> > >

> > > warmest regards,

> > >

> > > jagbir

> > >

> >

 

 

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