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Hi Kumud,

 

Unlike you, my brothers and sisters are the whole of humanity. If you

think we are alien in SY world, you are damn right - we are the only

ones who are demanding SYs be truthful ....... and giving evidence

of the corruption taking place right under their noses.

 

And i don't know how many times will i have to repeat that these

articles are be archived so the future seekers will know the true

nature, advent and message of Shri Mataji, and why, despite being the

Adi Shakti, She was so unsuccessful at reaching out to the masses for

the first three decades. If you can do the same job i am willing to

vacate mine.

 

But if at this elevent hour you can still condone the insult of

insignificance of Her advent and message to a world at large, and

instead want to apply balm to the hurt egos of your SY brother and

sisters by holding them to your gargantum bosom of compassion, then

you will get a piece of my mind. This forum is not for you. There is

the WCASY approved divinesahajayoga forum where you can, by reason of

lack of conscience, enjoy the bliss of their ignorance.

 

You are asking me to maintain Silence on Self. i am! But that does

not mean being aloof and indifferent to corruption of consciece. It

is better i call you a liar than condone your lying with silence. You

don't seem to grasp the reason and purpose of gathering evidence of

your lying ...... and i have no intention of giving details.

 

The Truth will definitely outlast and overcome the present SY

organization. It can wait 10, 20 ..... 50 years or longer. The

outcome, Kumud, is as guaranteed as the sun rising every morning. i

am just making sure that Truth will triumph ....... by picking and

exposing each and every maggot of corruption, falsehood and lie

that is devouring the SY organization of its strength and vitality.

 

i have not picked and exposed all of them yet. So please let me

finish this unpleasant task. Why are you complaining so LOUDLY when

we am doing all this dirty work?

 

There is also a correction to be made in your post, and i quote:

 

" Aren't they aware that the world needs SYS working selflessly in

spreading the great message of Shri Mataji "

 

It should have read: " Aren't they aware that the world needs SYS

working selflessly and truthfully in spreading the great message of

Shri Mataji " . Since you ommitted " and truthfully " you too are

condoning their dishonesty without being conscious. So what is wrong

with us being conscious? And what is the " great message " are they so

selflessly spreading? Can you enlighten me please?

 

And the sentence continues:

 

" and working towards our Mother's vision and dream of realised souls

in the world. "

 

Our Mother's vision and dream is to emancipate humanity by making

them aware of, and participating in, the Blossom Time. Can you also

enlighten me as to what She means by " Blossom Time " ?

 

Kumud, you are not only barking up the wrong tree, but also doing so

for the wrong reasons. That, my friend, is really, really sad. Sad

because your self-realization is suspect. (It is suspect because it

betrays a hint of condoning dishonesty.) Really, really sad because

it condemns those who keep insisting others to be honest.

 

jagbir

 

 

 

, " Violet "

<violetubb wrote:

>

> Dear Kumud,

>

> Again, you are confusing the issue of who is doing the abusing,

i.e. the domination of other SYS and who is pointing it out. Would

you say that Christ abused the tax collectors when he drove them with

a whip out of the temple for doing the wrong thing? Was that abuse?

Is calling a spade a spade, i.e. telling the truth, an abuse? i don't

think so. Telling the truth may not always seem nice, but without

truth, we are all lost, Kumud. WCASY and SYS who follow WCASY instead

of the Divine Within, to whom Shri Mataji pointed them, are already

on the wrong path. They will never become their own masters, while

they follow man, instead of the Holy Spirit Within.

>

> warm regards,

>

> violet

>

>

>

> , " Kumud

> Sharma " <yogikumud@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Adishakti.org contain volumes of reading material but Jagbir,

> Violet and

> > like minded people

> > who has contributed ,with great efforts , nice spiritual materials

> are busy

> > in abusing WCASY and

> > SYs. Aren't they aware that the world needs SYS working selflessly

> in

> > spreading the great message of Shri Mataji

> >

> > and working towards our Mother's vision and dream of realised

> souls in the

> > world.

> >

> > With love to all

> > Kumud

> >

>

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Dear elder brother JagbirjiNoted your each and every word with respect to your nice intention.You are rich with wisdom and even then you erupt anger and hatred to fellow denying and defyingShri Mataji's clear advise to all of us don't react on SY. If we are doing anything wrong or are vested

with falsehoodness / dishonesty Third Eye of the Universal Atman ( our Father) is constantly on everyoneof us.To remain in spirit will look and correct every one.With love but no intention to bark on any one of you. To shout on you means shouting /barking on self which

is a sin against the Spirit.SY's and Mother's goal is not short term ,we all understand, when she has taken 5000 years to create earth time will be taken to purify again this earth from evils and demons in human egos and psychology.

With LoveKumud On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:31 PM, jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote:

 

 

 

 

Hi Kumud,

 

Unlike you, my brothers and sisters are the whole of humanity. If you

think we are alien in SY world, you are damn right - we are the only

ones who are demanding SYs be truthful ....... and giving evidence

of the corruption taking place right under their noses.

 

And i don't know how many times will i have to repeat that these

articles are be archived so the future seekers will know the true

nature, advent and message of Shri Mataji, and why, despite being the

Adi Shakti, She was so unsuccessful at reaching out to the masses for

the first three decades. If you can do the same job i am willing to

vacate mine.

 

But if at this elevent hour you can still condone the insult of

insignificance of Her advent and message to a world at large, and

instead want to apply balm to the hurt egos of your SY brother and

sisters by holding them to your gargantum bosom of compassion, then

you will get a piece of my mind. This forum is not for you. There is

the WCASY approved divinesahajayoga forum where you can, by reason of

lack of conscience, enjoy the bliss of their ignorance.

 

You are asking me to maintain Silence on Self. i am! But that does

not mean being aloof and indifferent to corruption of consciece. It

is better i call you a liar than condone your lying with silence. You

don't seem to grasp the reason and purpose of gathering evidence of

your lying ...... and i have no intention of giving details.

 

The Truth will definitely outlast and overcome the present SY

organization. It can wait 10, 20 ..... 50 years or longer. The

outcome, Kumud, is as guaranteed as the sun rising every morning. i

am just making sure that Truth will triumph ....... by picking and

exposing each and every maggot of corruption, falsehood and lie

that is devouring the SY organization of its strength and vitality.

 

i have not picked and exposed all of them yet. So please let me

finish this unpleasant task. Why are you complaining so LOUDLY when

we am doing all this dirty work?

 

There is also a correction to be made in your post, and i quote:

 

" Aren't they aware that the world needs SYS working selflessly in

spreading the great message of Shri Mataji "

 

It should have read: " Aren't they aware that the world needs SYS

working selflessly and truthfully in spreading the great message of

Shri Mataji " . Since you ommitted " and truthfully " you too are

condoning their dishonesty without being conscious. So what is wrong

with us being conscious? And what is the " great message " are they so

selflessly spreading? Can you enlighten me please?

 

And the sentence continues:

 

" and working towards our Mother's vision and dream of realised souls

in the world. "

 

Our Mother's vision and dream is to emancipate humanity by making

them aware of, and participating in, the Blossom Time. Can you also

enlighten me as to what She means by " Blossom Time " ?

 

Kumud, you are not only barking up the wrong tree, but also doing so

for the wrong reasons. That, my friend, is really, really sad. Sad

because your self-realization is suspect. (It is suspect because it

betrays a hint of condoning dishonesty.) Really, really sad because

it condemns those who keep insisting others to be honest.

 

jagbir

 

, " Violet "

<violetubb wrote:

>

> Dear Kumud,

>

> Again, you are confusing the issue of who is doing the abusing,

i.e. the domination of other SYS and who is pointing it out. Would

you say that Christ abused the tax collectors when he drove them with

a whip out of the temple for doing the wrong thing? Was that abuse?

Is calling a spade a spade, i.e. telling the truth, an abuse? i don't

think so. Telling the truth may not always seem nice, but without

truth, we are all lost, Kumud. WCASY and SYS who follow WCASY instead

of the Divine Within, to whom Shri Mataji pointed them, are already

on the wrong path. They will never become their own masters, while

they follow man, instead of the Holy Spirit Within.

>

> warm regards,

>

> violet

>

>

>

> , " Kumud

> Sharma " <yogikumud@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Adishakti.org contain volumes of reading material but Jagbir,

> Violet and

> > like minded people

> > who has contributed ,with great efforts , nice spiritual materials

> are busy

> > in abusing WCASY and

> > SYs. Aren't they aware that the world needs SYS working selflessly

> in

> > spreading the great message of Shri Mataji

> >

> > and working towards our Mother's vision and dream of realised

> souls in the

> > world.

> >

> > With love to all

> > Kumud

> >

>

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Dear Kyyan, and all,

 

Thank you for questioning and clarifying the huge chasm that deeply

divides those following the official SY interpretation of Mother's

message within the organization, and those outside.

 

It is clear that the vast majority of SYs think they are spiritual

warriors valiantly bearing the message of the Adi Shakti to the

entire world. They have no doubt in the hearts and mind that they are

spreading Shri Mataji's teachings to all corners of the Earth.

 

With such a collective mindset conditioned over the decades, SYs

become very disturbed and agitated if given proof to the contrary.

Their minds refuse to accept even the very words of Shri Mataji. It

recoils at the evidence of its own corruption.

 

Most SYSSR are in a state of denial, seeking security in numbers.

They are all huddled together in their collective caves, constantly

comforting their conscience with the " Just give self-realization "

mantra. Anyone trying to prick their conscience that Sahaja Yoga

must, following Shri Mataji's own public declarations, be projected as

the Last Judgment is accused of slashing them with a sword, or

piercing their ribs with a spear. How can such reborn prophets and

angels, almost Jesus-like in their earthly zeal and mission, suffer

the same pain of ridicule and rejection? How can tens of thousands of

such highly realized souls be accused of committing a collective

crime against humanity?

 

So how does WCASY protect SYSSR SYs from having their conscience

pricked by the pen of a pariah? It is hoping that their propaganda

will work again, as it has in the past:

 

" recently i had joined Orkut n saw many communities spreading msg to

not visit the adishakti.org site saying stuff like having bad

vibrations. i wonder if ppl actually check it for themselves, i doubt

it, but even if they did they wud still follow the advice instead of

trusting themselves. quite sad. Im assuming no one from my collective

comes here. what will they think of this? "

 

But the tide is turning against WCASY and their propaganda machinery.

In this civilized age the pen is mightier than the sword, and the

internet could not have come any sooner. The Divine Message of Shri

Mataji will go out to a world at large in all its entirety. Even a

thousand infuriated Kumuds will not stop me from picking and exposing

the remaining maggots of corruption, lies and deceit feasting on the

nourishing conscience of thousands within the organization.

 

As i said before, Kumud, i am the designated night-soil carrier for

the SY organization. Please do not be offended by the collective

stink ............................ as it belongs to you too.

 

regards to all,

 

jagbir

 

 

, " v_koa " <v_koa

wrote:

>

> Dear Kamud,

>

> Indeed mothers vision of spreading her message to the world is the

> most important thing in the life of a sahaja yogi. However; the

> message of Shri Mataji and the one that Sahaja Yogis should be

> Sharing is that of the kundalini, the last judgement, ressurection

and evolution of the human into the spirit, NOT about stress relief,

> meditation for peace of mind and healing, as is the message being

> spread in public meetings and events of SY. Those are all BY-

PRODUCTS of growing into the spirit and realizing Shri Mataji, not

the point of Shri Matajis incarnation, Sahaja Yoga or anything else.

>

> With that in mind, it is easy to see that the message being spread,

> as you refer to it " mother's Message " , is such a superficial

version of the message.

>

> A question if i may. If Mother's message about the last judgement

and the evolution of the human into the spirit due to the grace of the

> Holy Spirit (Shri Mataji), then why is it that Shri Mataji remains

the great spiritual teacher of our age and Not the incarnation of The

Adi Shakti (who she is) at public meetings?

>

> My love

>

> kyyan

>

> , " Kumud Sharma "

> <yogikumud@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Adishakti.org contain volumes of reading material but Jagbir,

> Violet and like minded people who has contributed ,with great

efforts , nice spiritual materials are busy in abusing WCASY and

> > SYs. Aren't they aware that the world needs SYS working selflessly

> in spreading the great message of Shri Mataji

> >

> > and working towards our Mother's vision and dream of realised

souls in the world.

> >

> > With love to all

> > Kumud

> >

>

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While reading your email whole Guru Tatva was catching . I request you to remove me from your group.Really, we pray mother to BLESS YOU with good sense because you don't know what you are doing.RegardsKumud

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 4:58 AM, jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Kyyan, and all,

 

Thank you for questioning and clarifying the huge chasm that deeply

divides those following the official SY interpretation of Mother's

message within the organization, and those outside.

 

It is clear that the vast majority of SYs think they are spiritual

warriors valiantly bearing the message of the Adi Shakti to the

entire world. They have no doubt in the hearts and mind that they are

spreading Shri Mataji's teachings to all corners of the Earth.

 

With such a collective mindset conditioned over the decades, SYs

become very disturbed and agitated if given proof to the contrary.

Their minds refuse to accept even the very words of Shri Mataji. It

recoils at the evidence of its own corruption.

 

Most SYSSR are in a state of denial, seeking security in numbers.

They are all huddled together in their collective caves, constantly

comforting their conscience with the " Just give self-realization "

mantra. Anyone trying to prick their conscience that Sahaja Yoga

must, following Shri Mataji's own public declarations, be projected as

the Last Judgment is accused of slashing them with a sword, or

piercing their ribs with a spear. How can such reborn prophets and

angels, almost Jesus-like in their earthly zeal and mission, suffer

the same pain of ridicule and rejection? How can tens of thousands of

such highly realized souls be accused of committing a collective

crime against humanity?

 

So how does WCASY protect SYSSR SYs from having their conscience

pricked by the pen of a pariah? It is hoping that their propaganda

will work again, as it has in the past:

 

" recently i had joined Orkut n saw many communities spreading msg to

not visit the adishakti.org site saying stuff like having bad

vibrations. i wonder if ppl actually check it for themselves, i doubt

it, but even if they did they wud still follow the advice instead of

trusting themselves. quite sad. Im assuming no one from my collective

comes here. what will they think of this? "

 

But the tide is turning against WCASY and their propaganda machinery.

In this civilized age the pen is mightier than the sword, and the

internet could not have come any sooner. The Divine Message of Shri

Mataji will go out to a world at large in all its entirety. Even a

thousand infuriated Kumuds will not stop me from picking and exposing

the remaining maggots of corruption, lies and deceit feasting on the

nourishing conscience of thousands within the organization.

 

As i said before, Kumud, i am the designated night-soil carrier for

the SY organization. Please do not be offended by the collective

stink ............................ as it belongs to you too.

 

regards to all,

 

jagbir

 

, " v_koa " <v_koa

wrote:

>

> Dear Kamud,

>

> Indeed mothers vision of spreading her message to the world is the

> most important thing in the life of a sahaja yogi. However; the

> message of Shri Mataji and the one that Sahaja Yogis should be

> Sharing is that of the kundalini, the last judgement, ressurection

and evolution of the human into the spirit, NOT about stress relief,

> meditation for peace of mind and healing, as is the message being

> spread in public meetings and events of SY. Those are all BY-

PRODUCTS of growing into the spirit and realizing Shri Mataji, not

the point of Shri Matajis incarnation, Sahaja Yoga or anything else.

>

> With that in mind, it is easy to see that the message being spread,

> as you refer to it " mother's Message " , is such a superficial

version of the message.

>

> A question if i may. If Mother's message about the last judgement

and the evolution of the human into the spirit due to the grace of the

> Holy Spirit (Shri Mataji), then why is it that Shri Mataji remains

the great spiritual teacher of our age and Not the incarnation of The

Adi Shakti (who she is) at public meetings?

>

> My love

>

> kyyan

>

> , " Kumud Sharma "

> <yogikumud@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Adishakti.org contain volumes of reading material but Jagbir,

> Violet and like minded people who has contributed ,with great

efforts , nice spiritual materials are busy in abusing WCASY and

> > SYs. Aren't they aware that the world needs SYS working selflessly

> in spreading the great message of Shri Mataji

> >

> > and working towards our Mother's vision and dream of realised

souls in the world.

> >

> > With love to all

> > Kumud

> >

>

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Dear Kumud,

 

SYSSR SYs tend to accuse others of 'catching' [i.e. having psychosomatic blocks]

when it is their own 'catch'. You could not accept what Jagbir said in truth.

You thought: " Jagbir's Guru Tatva is out of order " . That's when you registered a

'catch', due to your own false idea, i.e. your kundalini let you know your

thought was wrong. But instead, you projected that on to Jagbir. The fact is,

you should know that Jagbir's Guru Tatva is in very good working order! The

other fact is, Jagbir knows very well what he is doing! It's just yourself that

doesn't know what they are doing!

 

regards,

 

violet

 

 

 

, " Kumud

Sharma " <yogikumud wrote:

>

> While reading your email whole Guru Tatva was catching . I request you to

> remove me from your group.

> Really, we pray mother to BLESS YOU with good sense because you don't

know

> what you are doing.

> Regards

> Kumud

>

> On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 4:58 AM, jagbir singh <adishakti_org

> wrote:

>

> > Dear Kyyan, and all,

> >

> >

> > Thank you for questioning and clarifying the huge chasm that deeply

> > divides those following the official SY interpretation of Mother's

> > message within the organization, and those outside.

> >

> > It is clear that the vast majority of SYs think they are spiritual

> > warriors valiantly bearing the message of the Adi Shakti to the

> > entire world. They have no doubt in the hearts and mind that they are

> > spreading Shri Mataji's teachings to all corners of the Earth.

> >

> > With such a collective mindset conditioned over the decades, SYs

> > become very disturbed and agitated if given proof to the contrary.

> > Their minds refuse to accept even the very words of Shri Mataji. It

> > recoils at the evidence of its own corruption.

> >

> > Most SYSSR are in a state of denial, seeking security in numbers.

> > They are all huddled together in their collective caves, constantly

> > comforting their conscience with the " Just give self-realization "

> > mantra. Anyone trying to prick their conscience that Sahaja Yoga

> > must, following Shri Mataji's own public declarations, be projected as

> > the Last Judgment is accused of slashing them with a sword, or

> > piercing their ribs with a spear. How can such reborn prophets and

> > angels, almost Jesus-like in their earthly zeal and mission, suffer

> > the same pain of ridicule and rejection? How can tens of thousands of

> > such highly realized souls be accused of committing a collective

> > crime against humanity?

> >

> > So how does WCASY protect SYSSR SYs from having their conscience

> > pricked by the pen of a pariah? It is hoping that their propaganda

> > will work again, as it has in the past:

> >

> > " recently i had joined Orkut n saw many communities spreading msg to

> > not visit the adishakti.org site saying stuff like having bad

> > vibrations. i wonder if ppl actually check it for themselves, i doubt

> > it, but even if they did they wud still follow the advice instead of

> > trusting themselves. quite sad. Im assuming no one from my collective

> > comes here. what will they think of this? "

> >

> > But the tide is turning against WCASY and their propaganda machinery.

> > In this civilized age the pen is mightier than the sword, and the

> > internet could not have come any sooner. The Divine Message of Shri

> > Mataji will go out to a world at large in all its entirety. Even a

> > thousand infuriated Kumuds will not stop me from picking and exposing

> > the remaining maggots of corruption, lies and deceit feasting on the

> > nourishing conscience of thousands within the organization.

> >

> > As i said before, Kumud, i am the designated night-soil carrier for

> > the SY organization. Please do not be offended by the collective

> > stink ............................ as it belongs to you too.

> >

> > regards to all,

> >

> > jagbir

> >

> > --- In

<%40>,

> > " v_koa " <v_koa@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kamud,

> > >

> > > Indeed mothers vision of spreading her message to the world is the

> > > most important thing in the life of a sahaja yogi. However; the

> > > message of Shri Mataji and the one that Sahaja Yogis should be

> > > Sharing is that of the kundalini, the last judgement, ressurection

> > and evolution of the human into the spirit, NOT about stress relief,

> > > meditation for peace of mind and healing, as is the message being

> > > spread in public meetings and events of SY. Those are all BY-

> > PRODUCTS of growing into the spirit and realizing Shri Mataji, not

> > the point of Shri Matajis incarnation, Sahaja Yoga or anything else.

> > >

> > > With that in mind, it is easy to see that the message being spread,

> > > as you refer to it " mother's Message " , is such a superficial

> > version of the message.

> > >

> > > A question if i may. If Mother's message about the last judgement

> > and the evolution of the human into the spirit due to the grace of the

> > > Holy Spirit (Shri Mataji), then why is it that Shri Mataji remains

> > the great spiritual teacher of our age and Not the incarnation of The

> > Adi Shakti (who she is) at public meetings?

> > >

> > > My love

> > >

> > > kyyan

> > >

> > > --- In

<%40>,

> > " Kumud Sharma "

> > > <yogikumud@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > > Adishakti.org contain volumes of reading material but Jagbir,

> > > Violet and like minded people who has contributed ,with great

> > efforts , nice spiritual materials are busy in abusing WCASY and

> > > > SYs. Aren't they aware that the world needs SYS working selflessly

> > > in spreading the great message of Shri Mataji

> > > >

> > > > and working towards our Mother's vision and dream of realised

> > souls in the world.

> > > >

> > > > With love to all

> > > > Kumud

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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> It is clear that the vast majority of SYs think they are spiritual

> warriors valiantly bearing the message of the Adi Shakti to the

> entire world. They have no doubt in the hearts and mind that they

> are spreading Shri Mataji's teachings to all corners of the Earth.

>

> With such a collective mindset conditioned over the decades, SYs

> become very disturbed and agitated if given proof to the contrary.

> Their minds refuse to accept even the very words of Shri Mataji. It

> recoils at the evidence of its own corruption.

>

 

Truth

The Mahabharata

Santi Parva, Section CLXII

Translated by Sri Kisari Mohan Ganguli

 

Yudhishthira said: Brahmanas and Rishis and Pitris and the gods all

applaud the duty of truth. I desire to hear of truth. Discourse to me

upon it, O grandsire! What are the indications, O king, of truth? How

may it be acquired? What is gained by practising truth, and how? Tell

me all this.

 

Bhishma said: A confusion of the duties of the four orders is never

applauded. That which is called Truth always exists in a pure and

unmingled state in every one of those four orders. With those that

are good, Truth is always a duty. Indeed, Truth is an eternal duty.

One should reverentially bow unto Truth. Truth is the highest refuge

(of all). Truth is duty; Truth is penance; Truth is Yoga; and Truth

is the eternal Brahman. Truth has been said to be Sacrifice of a

higher order. Everything rests upon Truth.

 

www.hinduism.co.za/truth.htm

 

So Kumud, without question, the very survival of Shri Mataji's Advent

and Message rests on Truth. Sahaja Yoga has been such an abysmal

failure because our leaders were always averse at telling the truth,

and made sure the rank and file followed their unfathomable fears.

 

It has now reached a point where the very survival of the Comforter's

teachings are in jeopardy. WCASY has edited out all reference to the

eschatological fulfillment of Lord Jesus' promise two millennia ago.

Official Sahaja Yoga (www.sahajayoga.org) today is the bare, bleached

bones and remains--almost unrecognizable and devoid of the nourishing

truth, scriptural vitality and eschatological power--of the Adi

Shakti's teachings and message to humanity.

 

http://www.adishakti.org and its affiliated sites are the only source

of the Comforter's teachings. Everything now rests upon the Truth at

these sites where the Adi Shakti brings us to remembrance about God

Almighty, Last Judgment, Resurrection, Second Birth, Kingdom of God,

Aykaa Mayee, Al-Qiyamah, Imam Mahdi, Spirit, Sahasarara, kundalini,

moksa, human evolution, eternal life, and so forth. Not only that, but

the Comforter also completes Jesus' teachings.

 

All these topics are collectively vital and indispensable for the

comprehension of the general public. Only detailed knowledge of these

crucial issues, so dear to the hearts of seekers and believers, will

bring forth the anticipated emancipation of humanity. The Advent and

Message of Shri Mataji must be declared and explained in all its

entirety. All forms of negativity working against that must be, like

maggots, picked up to be exposed and destroyed. It does not matter

who these maggots are.

 

Everything rests upon Truth now,

 

jagbir

 

 

 

, " Violet "

<violetubb wrote:

>

> Dear Kumud,

>

> SYSSR SYs tend to accuse others of 'catching' [i.e. having

psychosomatic blocks] when it is their own 'catch'. You could not

accept what Jagbir said in truth. You thought: " Jagbir's Guru Tatva

is out of order " . That's when you registered a 'catch', due to your

own false idea, i.e. your kundalini let you know your thought was

wrong. But instead, you projected that on to Jagbir. The fact is, you

should know that Jagbir's Guru Tatva is in very good working order!

The other fact is, Jagbir knows very well what he is doing! It's just

yourself that doesn't know what they are doing!

>

> regards,

>

> violet

>

>

>

> , " Kumud

> Sharma " <yogikumud@> wrote:

> >

> > While reading your email whole Guru Tatva was catching . I

request you to

> > remove me from your group.

> > Really, we pray mother to BLESS YOU with good sense because you

don't

> know

> > what you are doing.

> > Regards

> > Kumud

> >

> > On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 4:58 AM, jagbir singh <adishakti_org@>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Kyyan, and all,

> > >

> > >

> > > Thank you for questioning and clarifying the huge chasm that

deeply

> > > divides those following the official SY interpretation of

Mother's

> > > message within the organization, and those outside.

> > >

> > > It is clear that the vast majority of SYs think they are

spiritual

> > > warriors valiantly bearing the message of the Adi Shakti to the

> > > entire world. They have no doubt in the hearts and mind that

they are

> > > spreading Shri Mataji's teachings to all corners of the Earth.

> > >

> > > With such a collective mindset conditioned over the decades, SYs

> > > become very disturbed and agitated if given proof to the

contrary.

> > > Their minds refuse to accept even the very words of Shri

Mataji. It

> > > recoils at the evidence of its own corruption.

> > >

> > > Most SYSSR are in a state of denial, seeking security in

numbers.

> > > They are all huddled together in their collective caves,

constantly

> > > comforting their conscience with the " Just give self-

realization "

> > > mantra. Anyone trying to prick their conscience that Sahaja Yoga

> > > must, following Shri Mataji's own public declarations, be

projected as

> > > the Last Judgment is accused of slashing them with a sword, or

> > > piercing their ribs with a spear. How can such reborn prophets

and

> > > angels, almost Jesus-like in their earthly zeal and mission,

suffer

> > > the same pain of ridicule and rejection? How can tens of

thousands of

> > > such highly realized souls be accused of committing a collective

> > > crime against humanity?

> > >

> > > So how does WCASY protect SYSSR SYs from having their conscience

> > > pricked by the pen of a pariah? It is hoping that their

propaganda

> > > will work again, as it has in the past:

> > >

> > > " recently i had joined Orkut n saw many communities spreading

msg to

> > > not visit the adishakti.org site saying stuff like having bad

> > > vibrations. i wonder if ppl actually check it for themselves, i

doubt

> > > it, but even if they did they wud still follow the advice

instead of

> > > trusting themselves. quite sad. Im assuming no one from my

collective

> > > comes here. what will they think of this? "

> > >

> > > But the tide is turning against WCASY and their propaganda

machinery.

> > > In this civilized age the pen is mightier than the sword, and

the

> > > internet could not have come any sooner. The Divine Message of

Shri

> > > Mataji will go out to a world at large in all its entirety.

Even a

> > > thousand infuriated Kumuds will not stop me from picking and

exposing

> > > the remaining maggots of corruption, lies and deceit feasting

on the

> > > nourishing conscience of thousands within the organization.

> > >

> > > As i said before, Kumud, i am the designated night-soil carrier

for

> > > the SY organization. Please do not be offended by the collective

> > > stink ............................ as it belongs to you too.

> > >

> > > regards to all,

> > >

> > > jagbir

> > >

> > > --- In

> <%

40>,

> > > " v_koa " <v_koa@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kamud,

> > > >

> > > > Indeed mothers vision of spreading her message to the world

is the

> > > > most important thing in the life of a sahaja yogi. However;

the

> > > > message of Shri Mataji and the one that Sahaja Yogis should be

> > > > Sharing is that of the kundalini, the last judgement,

ressurection

> > > and evolution of the human into the spirit, NOT about stress

relief,

> > > > meditation for peace of mind and healing, as is the message

being

> > > > spread in public meetings and events of SY. Those are all BY-

> > > PRODUCTS of growing into the spirit and realizing Shri Mataji,

not

> > > the point of Shri Matajis incarnation, Sahaja Yoga or anything

else.

> > > >

> > > > With that in mind, it is easy to see that the message being

spread,

> > > > as you refer to it " mother's Message " , is such a superficial

> > > version of the message.

> > > >

> > > > A question if i may. If Mother's message about the last

judgement

> > > and the evolution of the human into the spirit due to the grace

of the

> > > > Holy Spirit (Shri Mataji), then why is it that Shri Mataji

remains

> > > the great spiritual teacher of our age and Not the incarnation

of The

> > > Adi Shakti (who she is) at public meetings?

> > > >

> > > > My love

> > > >

> > > > kyyan

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> <%

40>,

> > > " Kumud Sharma "

> > > > <yogikumud@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > >

> > > > > Adishakti.org contain volumes of reading material but

Jagbir,

> > > > Violet and like minded people who has contributed ,with great

> > > efforts , nice spiritual materials are busy in abusing WCASY and

> > > > > SYs. Aren't they aware that the world needs SYS working

selflessly

> > > > in spreading the great message of Shri Mataji

> > > > >

> > > > > and working towards our Mother's vision and dream of

realised

> > > souls in the world.

> > > > >

> > > > > With love to all

> > > > > Kumud

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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