Comment re Majid's letter to Jagbir

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagbir and All,

 

i have done a C & P as i would really like to comment regarding what Majid said

to Jagbir. The original letter is appended.

 

regards to all,

 

violet

 

 

Never heard again from WCASY & Majid Golpour since April 30, 2002

 

Majid Golpour

jagbir singh

Tuesday, April 30, 2002 1:02 AM

Re: Majid Golpour

 

Jai Shri Mataji

 

Dear Jagbir,

 

" I am very happy to hear back from you following my own message to you! I am a

Sahaja Yogi, named by Shri Mataji as French leader, and since 7 years I'm also

responsable for SY in Iran. "

 

[shri Mataji made many people " leader " at one time or another. She said it was

only for the purposes of communication, i.e. coordination, which is helpful.

That does not give a SY like Majid, the right to question Jagbir, just because

of Majid's title of " leader " which, in reality, means nothing. The real leader

is the one who becomes master of himself. If everybody becomes master of

themselves, then no external leader will be needed. That is a depth of

spirituality where everything works out spontaneously. Where have we heard that

before? From Shri Mataji. But over-organisers can organise the best things out

of Sahaja Yoga, like the " evidence to confirm Her Incarnation " , for instance.

When Majid bombasted Jagbir with unloving suspicious questions as to Jagbir's

doings, little did Majid realise that the Adi Shakti had laid the greatest of

responsibilities on to Jagbir's shoulders, as Recorder of the evidence to

confirm Her Incarnation. Majid did not know that, and neither did he deign to

ask. There were a roomful of yogis including myself, when Shri Mataji said at

Sydney Airport, in 1994, that:

" There are special personalites from Montreal, Canada who will give separate

evidence, from outside the organisation of Sahaja Yoga, to confirm My

Incarnation. " Majid, by believing that he had Jagbir all worked out was in

effect acting as if he had the Adi Shakti's ways all worked out too. This is

what happens to external organisers. They forget that the Holy Spirit's ways is

not just external; there is a lot goes on that is not external and invisible to

them. It is only their ego that makes them think they are seeing everything

there is to see, and that they are in charge of everything.]

 

 

" If you don't mind I have a couple of questions for you after having seen your

site " :

 

[but what if Jagbir did mind? Would it have made a difference? i don't believe

so. Majid seems to believe that Jagbir owes him answers to each and every

question, even though those questions are sensitive to Jagbir. They are

sensitive questions, because they are religious questions and not spiritual

questions. Majid is not open-hearted as he tries to make his words sound. He has

already made up his mind that he wants to makeover Jagbir. But it doesn't work

because Jagbir is into Spirit, and not into religion like Majid is. Here is the

first religious question, which has nothing to do with spirituality:

 

1. " What is your connection with Sahaja Yoga in general and how much do you

contribute to the content and build of the Al-Quiammat site? "

 

[Majid has already said right from the outset that his connection with Sahaja

Yoga is: " I am a Sahaja Yogi, named by Shri Mataji as French leader, and since 7

years I'm also responsable for SY in Iran. " i have news for Majid that being a

leader holds no weight in God's eyes.]

 

Here is religious question No.2:

 

2./ " Was this site discussed with Shri Mataji before launching it? "

 

[Majid did not even try to find out the facts from Jagbir in a nice way. He

seems to think that permission only comes to leaders who are fortunate to be in

the physical presence of Shri Mataji. He doesn't seem to have knowledge of the

permission of the Holy Spirit that comes from within. That is why this is also a

religiously motivated question and not a real spiritual one. It is the type of

question that a Pharisee who sticks to the letter of the law but not the Spirit

of the law, would ask. People like Majid think that the letter of the law is

above the Spirit of the Law. It is not. The Spirit of the Law fulfils the letter

of the law, and Jagbir has fulfilled it on all counts.]

 

 

" The subject dealt with is very delicate, particularly with reference to the

name of Shri Mataji, and to do this without Her permission could be against

protocol. I could be mistaken on this, but as I don't believe that I have had

the pleasure of speaking with you regarding the way we Sahaja Yogis should be

helping pass the message of SY to the Muslim community, I am only making

presumptions. "

 

[Majid says he is making presumptions - but he is actually being " dead serious " ,

when he says that he doesn't think he has yet had the pleasure to tell Jagbir

how he should actually help pass the message of SY to the Muslim community,

rather than the Message of Qiyamah, which is the real message. If Majid had been

spiritually wise, he would have worked together with Jagbir, but the priestly

caste, are rarely spiritually wise. Shri Mataji says that the priestly caste are

the last to " get it " , i.e. they are the last to get the " spiritual

understanding " because they are more interested in forming religions out of the

teachings of an Incarnation. Just teaching what Shri Mataji taught is all that's

necessary. There is no need to form a religious organisation. Religious

organisation are only good to rule through them. Sahaja Yoga Organisation has

just become another religion, watered-down, from the teachings that Shri Mataji

Nirmala Devi gave. With my own ears, i heard Shri Mataji say: " I hope you don't

make a religion out of My teachings! " But Majid has already, in his mind, made a

religion out of Her teachings. He is so programmed! So over-organised! That is

why he just cannot see past his religious nose, to witness that the Adi Shakti

is also working from outside the confines of the religion that has been created

out of Her teachings! None are so blind as those who cannot, nor will not,

" see " !]

 

 

" You may be aware that a group of yogis of Muslim origin have been working for a

number of years to transmit our Divine Mother's message to Muslims across many

countries -- such as Iran, India, Algeria, Pakistan, UAE, Turkey, Malaysia,

Ivory Coast and Benin, as well as the migrant populations in Europe and the

States etc... For this reason, it is a little surprising to see a site dedicated

to this subject without consultation with the concerned yogis from these Muslim

communities. "

 

[There might be a group of yogis working with Muslims, but there is no other

Qiyamah site for Muslims, other than Jagbir's site, so the two complement each

other. i really question Majid's intelligence and logic in working against

Jagbir's Qiyamah site, instead of working the two together. It is a real sorry

indictment of the faults and failures of leaders in the organisation of Sahaja

Yoga, who are more interested in organising a religion than they are in getting

the Truth out there!]

 

 

" Of course, I am in no way questioning your good intentions, but I do feel that

the tone of certain documents found on your site could cause concern. "

 

[i question Majid's intentions though! It seems to me that Majid would rather

have a nice religion, than the truth. But you can't have both the truth, and a

religion, because the two contradict each other. A religion always requires one

to obey human leaders, whereas the truth requires one to obey the Divine Within,

the Adi Shakti Within, the Holy Spirit Within. Human fallacy comes in, once the

religion comes in, and then you have leaders like Majid telling Jagbir to obey

Majid, rather than to obey the Adi Shakti Within! That's how all religions end

up on the wrong track, in the end!]

 

 

" Please could you let me know about yourself and your aims with this site so

that we can perhaps broaden the input in a more collective manner thereby

reducing the possible risks associated with an excess of sensitive and perhaps

provocatory information for those not yet realised. "

 

[Majid has no right nor moral superiority to question the way he is. Being a

leader is for the purpose of facilitating and communicating the Divine Message

to the world at large, not to prevent it, or to water it down. The Qiyamah

Message is not too much for Muslims, because it is exactly what they need to

hear. It is only too much for Sahaj Leaders like Majid, who find it too strong a

message for their own sensitivities. Like Jagbir said, how can it be provocative

if it is based on the Muslim Scriptures? http://www.al-qiyamah.org/ Therefore,

this is just one more lame excuse to avoid responsibility for giving the Divine

Message of Qiyamah:

 

" We can perhaps broaden the input in a more collective manner thereby reducing

the possible risks associated with an excess of sensitive and perhaps

provocatory information for those not yet realised. " ]

 

 

" Looking forward to hearing back from you soon,

 

Best regards,

 

Majid Golpour

 

[but Jagbir did not hear back from you, Majid. He satisfactorily answered your

questions, which you had no spiritual authority to pose in the first place. You

may have thought you had a religious authority, but spiritual authority is

something else. i think that is why you were stumped for a reply. Religion just

doesn't have the answers, Majid. Only the Divine Within does. That is why Shri

Mataji said to follower Her, and not Sahaja Yoga. As long as you follow Sahaja

Yoga instead of Her, you will not have the answers within you. i sincerely hope

that one day, you will find the answers!]

 

with love,

 

violet

 

 

 

Never heard again from WCASY & Majid Golpour since April 30, 2002

 

 

Majid Golpour

jagbir singh

Tuesday, April 30, 2002 1:02 AM

Re: Majid Golpour

 

Jai Shri Mataji

 

Dear Jagbir,

 

I am very happy to hear back from you following my own message to you! I am a

Sahaja Yogi, named by Shri Mataji as French leader, and since 7 years I'm also

responsable for SY in Iran.

 

If you don't mind I have a couple of questions for you after having seen your

site:

 

What is your connection with Sahaja Yoga in general and how much do you

contribute to the content and build of the Al-Quiammat site? Was this site

discussed with Shri Mataji before launching it?

 

The subject dealt with is very delicate, particularly with reference to the name

of Shri Mataji, and to do this without Her permission could be against protocol.

I could be mistaken on this, but as I don't believe that I have had the pleasure

of speaking with you regarding the way we Sahaja Yogis should be helping pass

the message of SY to the Muslim community, I am only making presumptions.

 

You may be aware that a group of yogis of Muslim origin have been working for a

number of years to transmit our Divine Mother's message to Muslims across many

countries -- such as Iran, India, Algeria, Pakistan, UAE, Turkey, Malaysia,

Ivory Coast and Benin, as well as the migrant populations in Europe and the

States etc... For this reason, it is a little surprising to see a site dedicated

to this subject without consultation with the concerned yogis from these Muslim

communities.

 

Of course, I am in no way questioning your good intentions, but I do feel that

the tone of certain documents found on your site could cause concern. Please

could you let me know about yourself and your aims with this site so that we can

perhaps broaden the input in a more collective manner thereby reducing the

possible risks associated with an excess of sensitive and perhaps provocatory

information for those not yet realised.

 

Looking forward to hearing back from you soon,

 

Best regards,

 

Majid Golpour

 

 

 

 

Dear Majid Golpour,

 

Jai Shri Mataji!

 

Greetings.

 

Before we proceed myself would like to let you know that a copy of this email is

also being forwarded to Dr. Balwinder Singh -- my brother, fellow Sahaja Yogi

and an ENT specialist attached to the Putrajaya Hospital in Malaysia -- who will

bear witness to all that is discussed in this email. I have taken this approach

because after years of contention, disbelieve and apprehension among Sahaja

Yogis, especially those senior or 'in charge' of spreading Shri Mataji's

Message, I want this matter to finally rest. Thus, having my brother as a highly

educated third-party witness will help confirm all that I am going to say to

defend myself, hopefully for the last time.

 

1) What is your connection with Sahaja Yoga in general?

 

My connection with Sahaja Yoga is that from 1993-1999 three of my children went

daily into their own Sahasraras during meditation, met Shri Mataji and all the

messengers of God Almighty, and informed me what was taking place. For 5 years

with(out) fail they met Shri Mataji daily. They also answered hundreds of my

questions about the Sahasrara (Kingdom of God), directly from Shri Mataji, as

and when necessary. This is the only reason myself surrendered to the Truth that

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi is the Divine Mother who come to announce and initiate

the Resurrection and Last Judgment.

 

You must be assured that if not for my children I would never have joined Sahaja

Yoga because not only do they provide no proof that She is the Adi Shakti, but

are even afraid to declare that it is the time of The Resurrection (Al-Qiyamah)

and Last Judgment.

 

2) and how much do you contribute to the content and build of the Al- Quiammat

site?

 

You must know that myself have written a 2,200 page book, Shri Adi Shakti: The

Kingdom Of God, based on all that was revealed by Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, Shri

Jesus, Prophet Muhammad, Shri Krishna, Shri Vishnu, Shri Ganesha, Guru Nanak and

others. This book was presented to Shri Mataji in Cabella in the fall of 1999

and She was extremely pleased with it. However it just needs some minor editing

by Shri Mataji, and will then be published for the general public in four parts.

 

If Shri Mataji has already read and approved the book for the public, which

includes the chapter on Al-Qiyamah, then there should be no need for concern.

Thus the question of whether it has been discussed with Shri Mataji does not

arise because www.al-qiyamah.org reaches the Muslim nations in ways that is not

otherwise possible. The book will probably be banned by Islamic nations who view

Al- Qiyamah as Doomsday. The only alternative is the internet and that is why

the www.al-qiyamah.org website was set up. In fact the internet is a much better

conduit for spreading Shri Mataji's Message as it can be constantly updated with

relevant and fresh information, something that a book format severely lacks.

 

The entire www.al-qiyamah.org is done by me. It must be mentioned here that the

Qur'an specifies Allah's Signs of Qiyamah, which have all been taken place

precisely as written. I bear witness to these Signs and will stand by them even

on pain of death, but please do not fault me for being the bearer.

 

3) The subject dealt with is very delicate, particularly with reference to the

name of Shri Mataji, and to do this without Her permission could be against

protocol.

 

Majid Golpour, you are not the first person to question me about using Shri

Mataji's name and about protocol, and neither will be the last. If Shri Mataji

Nirmala Devi is the Adi Shakti, something which you also uphold, then how does

the question of protocol arise? Why must I need Her permission to announce that

She is the Adi Shakti, or that it is the time of Qiyamah or that it is the Last

Judgment? Protocol has nothing to do with announcing the Truth, especially if

one wants to do so with any fear. Who will set the rules and regulations after

She leaves? Will Sahaja Yoga turn into an organized movement in future, with

those in charge setting rules, and punishment for breaking them? When will

Sahaja Yogis be free to declare and announce the Adi Shakti, Qiyamah and Last

Judgment openly, especially when senior Sahaja Yogis and those in charge cannot,

or do not want to do so, openly? Why are we so apprehensive of the Truth? Why

must hypocritical double standards be forced on others, with 'protocol' used as

a tool to silence and subdue those who want the world to know that the Adi

Shakti is on Earth announcing the Resurrection and Last Judgment?

 

Out of the thousands of Muslim visitors to the al-qiyamah site, only three had

some disagreements. On the contrary, there are now a number of Islamic sites

that have hosted www.al-qiyamah.org on their servers. Why are they supporting

this website? It is thus surprising and disheartening that fellow Sahaja Yogis

are so afraid of 'offending' fellow Muslims. What is there to offend Muslims

when the Qur'an is specifically used as proof? (In the past Sahaja Yogis feared

that the www.adishakti.org site would bring about a massive western media

attack. Two years have passed and nothing has happened.) Why are we Sahaja Yogis

so fearful of telling the world what She has told us? Has this policy of holding

back information helped in any way -- bring more seekers, pacified anti-sahaja

yoga sites etc?

 

4) a little surprising to see a site dedicated to this subject without

consultation with the concerned yogis from these Muslim communities.

 

Myself have had no idea that it was necessary to consult fellow yogis. In fact I

did not even know that there was a Muslim group working to spread Sahaja Yoga to

Muslim countries. (I was in Malaysia last year and there was no such group

there). I have never questioned any Sahaja Yogi/Yogini on how he or she spreads

Sahaja Yoga. Neither did anyone inform me that there were specific groups or

committees whose permission was required to spread Sahaja Yoga, especially

'sensitive information'. Myself have never heard Shri Mataji saying that

declaring She is the Adi Shakti, that it is the Last Judgment, the Time of

Qiyamah, must be approved by certain yogis. This is something new to me, despite

years in Sahaja Yoga.

 

5) tone of certain documents found on your site could cause concern.

 

Please let me know which are the documents and myself am willing to look into

them.

 

6) we can perhaps broaden the input in a more collective manner thereby reducing

the possible risks associated with an excess of sensitive and perhaps

provocatory information for those not yet realised.

 

The Adi Shakti, Resurrection and Last Judgment are not provocative information.

We cannot wait for humans to be realized before telling them the Truth. It has

not worked in the past. Tell them the Truth first and they may seek

Self-realization on their own.

 

Again I would like to state that myself am willing to work with anyone to spread

the Message of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. I agree that at times the tone of my

language is strong but so is my utter disgust and disdain for religious

organizations manipulating and distorting the Truth. The fact that it is

Resurrection Time only makes me all the more forthright in denouncing them.

Anything less would render me a coward and hypocrite. After all Allah (SWT)

compels you, as one of His many messengers of Al-Qiyamah, to announce the

Resurrection without fear and uphold the Qur'an as proof His Warning! May you

have the conviction and fearlessness to do so.

 

Jai Shri Mataji,

 

jagbir