May all Sahaja Yogis give Her Resurrection Message this Easter!

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, " jagbir

singh " <adishakti_org wrote:

 

> (We are off to Toronto for the long Easter week-end. Will be back on

> Monday. So celebrate the eternal nature of your own being and that

> promised Paradise that has been both proven and promised by the

> Savior. Remember at all times that even thieves have a better chance

> to enter the _spiritual_ Kingdom of God than the priestly class.)

 

Dear Jagbir and All,

 

May all Sahaja Yogis have the conscience to give Her Resurrection Message this

Easter, despite what the thieves of Her Resurrection Message, the priestly

class, want. It is not the same as what Shri Mataji, the Christian Comforter,

wants...

 

i would like to wish everyone Happy Easter also! i remember the Easter Period of

1994 when Shri Mataji spoke about the special children who would give

confirmation of Her Incarnation. She said that this confirmation would come from

outside the organisation of Sahaja Yoga. i never knew then, that because of my

Sahaj Conscience (the conscience that comes from Union with the Divine Within) i

would actually be out of the organization of Sahaja Yoga, and be part and parcel

of the 'real Sahaja Yogis' (as Xxxxxxxxxx from Paris coined it recently). By

'real Sahaja Yogis', myself means those yogis who are not afraid to give Shri

Mataji's 'real Message', i.e. the Divine Message, that is Christ's continuing

Last Judgment and Resurrection Message!

 

Because it is Easter, we are again reminded of this Message, but the Sahaja

Yogis in the organisation of Sahaja Yoga, who are listening to the ideas of the

leaders of the organisation, instead of to Shri Mataji, do not make any mention

of the Resurrection (in those words exactly) even though Christians in all

Christian churches will be loudly proclaiming about the Resurrection in very

clear terms this Easter! Yes, the Christians can do it, but the Sahaja Yogis in

the organisation can't! The Christians are not worried that it will be too much

for people, but the Sahaja Yogis are worried that the Resurrection Message will

be too much for people! They don't even have the courage of the Christians, who

advertise the Resurrection in all newspapers at Easter Time, so people can come

and hear about it! Who would have thought that 38 years later, Sahaja Yogis

would even be afraid to " mention " the word " RESURRECTION " !!! That is why there

is a real question if they are 'real Sahaja Yogis' at all! There is a real

question about it! Listening to leaders who don't listen to Shri Mataji, has

brought a whole organisation down to its knees, where they are turned from the

truth, to a deception, just because they are not listening to what Shri Mataji

said, which is to " TELL THEM THE MESSAGE, THAT THE TIME HAS COME FOR OUR

RESURRECTION " :

 

Shri Mataji: " I really can't understand. I was overjoyed to see the way you had

organised this beautiful welcome. I must say that it is your love which finds

all kinds of expressions of enjoying Sahaja Yoga. I really can't understand how

these unique ideas come into your heads and you represent the different

countries from where you have come. I WISH YOU CARRY THESE FLAGS BACK TO YOUR

COUNTRIES AND TELL THEM THE MESSAGE, THAT THE TIME HAS COME FOR OUR

RESURRECTION, THAT WE HAVE TO RISE. We have to rise above this human level to a

higher level of existence and if that happens, then how it changes your life,

how it makes you happy, how you lose all your absurd ideas of hatred and of

harming others, injuring others. All these kinds of ideas which have worked out

to give some sort of a sadistic pleasure to many people and they have enjoyed

the way they want to destroy the joy of others, the happiness of others. To

maintain the happiness, I know, you being Sahaja Yogis, you have to bear a lot,

tolerate a lot of nonsense. You have already done it and gradually once Sahaja

Yoga is established in your own countries as something that is so beautiful, so

very pure, so very important that all others in your countries also will try to

follow that path which you have crossed over. Only your lives are the ones which

will reflect the beauty of your inner being and of Sahaja Yoga. (Shri Mataji

Nirmala Devi - Birthday Puja Talk, New Delhi, India - 21 March, 1998)

 

Tomorrow is Shri Mataji's Birthday! What would please Her most, would be to give

Her Resurrection Message, just like She asked on Her Birthday in 1998. It is a

very poignant and timely reminder what Jagbir has said, that " Remember at all

times that even thieves have a better chance to enter the _spiritual_ Kingdom of

God than the priestly class. " To that i would like to add that your everyday

thieves can only steal material things, but the priestly class thieves and those

who follow them, have thieved Christ's continued Resurrection Message right from

under the nose of the Christian Comforter that Christ sent to complete His

Message, and made it into a Meditation and Subtle System Message only!

 

May all Sahaja Yogis have the conscience to give Her Resurrection Message this

Easter, despite what the thieves of Her Resurrection Message, the priestly

class, want. It is not the same as what Shri Mataji, the Christian Comforter,

wants. May the world know Her continued Resurrection Message that Christ gave!

 

Jai Shri Mataji!

 

violet

 

 

 

> Dear Violet and all,

>

> Your recent post only magnifies the antichrist nature of the

> negativity that prevents the fulfillment of human destiny, a

> pervasive negativity that is now firmly entrenched in Sahaja Yoga.

>

> Main Entry: per·vade

> : to become diffused throughout every part of

>

> Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

>

> Before i quote your post Violet i want all to again remember and

> understand the nature of this negativity:

>

> " Yes, may truth prevail after 38 years of deliberate collective

> dishonesty. Anyone has any idea how long is 38 years? Can anyone

> name me a single spiritual or religious organization that have

> consciously lied that long? To make it easier to get a positive

> answer: Can anyone name me a single self-realized soul or believer

in

> God Almighty who did so ........... since the dawn of civilization?

> Then how is it possible for tens of thousands to so easily do

exactly

> that so today?

>

> What then is the nature of this negativity that is bent on

> destroying the promised salvation of humanity? ..... and almost

> succeeded! " (end)

>

> So i will quote you Violet:

>

> " Dear All,

>

> Part 5 concluded with:

>

> A beautiful example of this is given in the famous prophecy of

Isaiah

> where the destiny of humanity is seen as a return to Paradise. First

> of all it is said that the Spirit will be given, " the Spirit of

> wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the

Spirit

> of knowledge and the fear of the Lord " . The fall of humanity came

> from turning away from the Spirit and centring on the separate self,

> and restoration can only come by the gift of the Spirit

> reconciling humanity with God. Then it is said, " the wolf shall lie

> down with the lamb and the leopard shall lie down with the kid, and

> the calf and the young lion and the fatling together and a little

> child shall lead them " . This is the restoration to Paradise, a state

> which can only be found when we have passed through death into the

> new world, as Jesus promised the thief on the cross, " This day you

> shall be with me in Paradise " . (P.86) Then the whole creation will

> pass from its present state of extension in time and space with all

> the divisions and conflicts which mark this state, and the animal

> world will be reconciled with itself and with the human world.

> Finally it is said, " They shall not hurt or destroy in all my holy

> mountain, for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of God as the

> waters cover the sea " . (Isaiah 11:1-9) This state of Paradise comes

> when humanity emerges into a new state of consciousness, a state

> described as the " knowledge of the Lord " , that is the higher

> knowledge or 'gnosis', known in India as 'jnana', the direct

> experience of the indwelling Spirit of God.

>

> A New Vision of Reality (Western Science, Eastern Mysticism and

> Christian Faith)

> Bede Griffiths

> Templegate Publishers - Springfield, Illinois

> ISBN 0-87243-180-0 " (end)

>

> After reading all this your conscience should be, without any doubt,

> disturbed by all that WCASY, Sir CP, the SY management have done to

> suppress the advent and message of the Comforter. Never forget that

> Jesus was always outside and against the religious organization of

> elders, chief priests and scribes (16:21) who had corrupted and

> edited the truth. After 2000 years the Comforter sent by Him is

> facing the same. If all this still doesn't prick your conscience to

> loudly demand transparency and honesty, then the evidence that Lord

> Jesus gave of one's own eternal nature, by resurrecting Himself

after

> the crucifixion, will be in vain ............. all the more since

> the Comforter's lifelong attempt to complete Jesus' teachings and

> message also ends in abysmal failure.

>

> But for those who are concerned and conscientious, then yours is the

> Kingdom of Heaven, the new world that Jesus promised the thief on

the

> cross. So do not be stained by, or associated with, the negativity

> that is working against Jesus in the SY organization - Do not

empower

> them in any way because that is where the negativity's source and

> strength is! It is better you be the condemned thief outside the

> organization than a recognized SY within. That is why Xxxxxxx, a

> former ex/anti-SY has a much better chance that the SYs following

> WCASY, Sir CP and SY management, and i am willing to write this on

> stone. Only a fool will be unable to understand or heed this advice,

> especially so when Easter is just round the corner.

>

> Happy Easter to all,

>

> jagbir

>

> (We are off to Toronto for the long Easter week-end. Will be back on

> Monday. So celebrate the eternal nature of your own being and that

> promised Paradise that has been both proven and promised by the

> Savior. Remember at all times that even thieves have a better chance

> to enter the _spiritual_ Kingdom of God than the priestly class.)

>

>

> , " jagbir

> singh " <adishakti_org@> wrote:

>

> > What then is the nature of this negativity that is bent on

> > destroying the promised salvation of humanity? ..... and almost

> > succeeded!

> >

> > regards to all,

> >

> >

> > jagbir

>

>

>

> Dear Jagbir and All,

>

> i believe that the nature of this negativity is on two fronts, i.e.

> we have both leaders and followers who are making mistakes and not

> realizing it. The leaders are making the mistake of following their

> own ideas, instead of listening to the external incarnation, Shri

> Mataji. If they are not listening to the external Shri Mataji, how

> can they hope to please the internal Shri Mataji, who is the Holy

> Spirit? The same goes for the followers. If firstly they listen

> to the leaders that follow their own ideas, instead of what Shri

> Mataji is telling them, how can the followers please the Holy Spirit

> within? It is not surprising that if the Holy Spirit is not listened

> to and therefore becomes hurt, that the heart chakra will also

> 'catch'. The individual Spirit and the Holy Spirit are very closely

> connected. To what extent do Sahaja Yogis really understand this?

>

> " Just giving self-realization " like the leaders want the followers

to

> do, is a Sahaj Game. It is not the real Sahaja Yoga. SYS who are

just

> playing the " Just-give-self-realization " game, are not using all

> their knowledge (gnosis), nor all the tools at their disposal, to

> board the Ship and sail forward in full confidence to give Her

Divine

> Message to the world-at-large. The " nature of the negativity that is

> bent on destroying the promised salvation of humanity..... and

almost

> succeeded " , must surely include the following dangers that Shri

> Mataji spoke about at Caxton Hall, England in 1979. They are:

>

> 1. Going to the extent of cleaning the outer temple of the body so

> that a religion of first importance is given to that, while the most

> important part which is to be given to God, becomes of second

> importance.

>

> 2. Akarmanyata - not wanting to work things out due to laziness.

>

> 3. Akramanyata - losing one's vibrations, therefore not believing in

> them, but still coming back to Shri Mataji for healing, without ever

> equipping oneself with one's own inner spiritual healing from the

> Divine Mother/Holy Spirit Within.

>

> 4. Sanshaya - doubting what one has received, i.e. " doubting one's

> connection to the Divine " even though one has felt the Cool Breeze,

> thus proving that connection.

>

> 5. Pramada - making mistakes, but not realizing that one is making

> mistakes.

>

> 6. Bhrama-darshan - having fanciful ideas about oneself, that leads

> to lies or deceit. Shri Mataji describes this SY as one who is

" cock-

> sure " about themself, but at the same time does not have mastery

over

> their own vibrations, but will tell everyone else that 'this'

> or 'that' has no vibrations. This person is living in an illusion

> about themself, believing their own ideas about themself.

>

> 7. Vishaya Chitta - an attention that is still stuck on past

> misidentifications with external objects, rather than identifying

> with one's Spirit.

>

> regards to all,

>

> violet

>

>

> Re: 38 years now still the world knows ziltch about sy

>

>

> , " jagbir singh "

> <adishakti_org@> wrote:

> >

> > k3k78 <Xxxxxxx@>

> > jagbir singh <adishakti_org@>

> > Monday, March 3, 2008 10:28:40 AM

> > Hello Jagbir

> >

> > Dear Jagbir,

> > Doing a search nepal living goddess

> > these news people are just crying out for a goddess

> > to run news on at the moment ?

> > me agree with you something really really really wrong

> > with sy those in charge

> > 38 years now still the world knows ziltch about sy

> > thats 38 years THIRTY EIGHT years

> > personaly i dont give any hope for the so called

> > sy organistion mr magoo would do better job.

> >

> > (1) sy needs just tell the truth which impiles also

> > to others.

> > else how will others know

> >

> > (2) we can agree the goddess within ok

> > like you said silence on self

> >

> >

> > regards

> >

> > Xxxxxxxx

> >

>

> Dear Xxxxxxxx and all,

>

> Sorry for the delay in responding as i was a bit busy elsewhere.

>

> The last time you wrote i responded thus:

>

> " April 18, 2007

>

> Dear devotees of the Primordial Mother,

>

> Namaskaar - i bow to the Holy Spirit who resides in you.

>

> Today is a great day, at least for me personally. Today is Tuesday.

> Wonderful news and special events always seem to happen on Tuesdays,

> the day homage is paid to Shri Ganesha.

>

> i received an email from an disillusioned anti-SY who had left the

> organization a long time ago, probably in the 1980s. i know this

> person from the anti-SY forum where he was a prominent member and

> founding father. But i always felt that he had a good heart despite

> his anti-SY stance (and thus always treated him with respect). Today

> my faith in him has come a full circle - i feel peace....

>

> /message/7782 "

>

>

> Yes, 38 years have passed and 99.99% of the world knows ziltch about

> Shri Mataji. Even though it is 11.59 pm the WCASY, Sir CP, the rank

> and file still do not have the realization that something is very,

> very, very wrong with the way they have always tried to spread

Sahaja

> Yoga i.e., " Just give self-realization " . They still think this is

the

> only way to reach the masses ......... despite 38 years of

consistent

> failure, rejection and ridicule.

>

> For 38 years they have tried every means to spread the vision and

> message of Shri Mataji, ............... every means except being

> honest and straightforward as Shri Mataji had been. Even with 1

minute

> left before midnight they still do not want to try the only approach

> they never had tried - telling the plain truth! i have absolutely no

> idea why they don`t want to be truthful. No one seems to know why.

>

> Those who have tried to get an answer are always met with the Great

> Wall of Silence, and told to " Just give self-realization " . The rare

> one who persisted was told by the leader that the status quo must be

> followed. Just in case we wonder what is missing from this official

> SY status quo, i will quote Alex:

>

> " It is astonishing that the sahaja yogis, who believe Shri Mataji to

> be the savior of humanity prophecied by many religious scriptures,

> have not the conviction to promote her to the world openly, honestly

> and unashamedly as that. Promotion of the savior will draw more

> serious attention from many more people than do the current vague

> claims about stress relief and peace of mind. This lack of

conviction

> speaks volumes and is the same reason they fail to respond to those

> who challenge SY. You simply can't be one thing and then attempt to

> portray yourself as another - no matter how clever you are, it shows

> and people see it very clearly. This is called hypocrisy. It

> indicates the vast majority of sahaja yogis are in a state of

denial.

>

> On the premise that Shri Mataji is indeed the Adi Shakti, on what

> basis do the sahaja yogis take it upon themselves to discriminate as

> to whom is delivered the message of her present incarnation and by

> what convoluted process that message is selectively delivered? To

> take upon themselves to make such discriminations is an expression

of

> an elitist, missionary culture motivated by power and authority over

> others. The message must be very plain and simple if every person on

> the planet is to be afforded the opportunity to draw their own

> conclusions about the goddess incarnate. Why do the sahaja yogis

make

> something so simple so complicated?. Why are they doing so poor a

job

> in telling the world of Shri Mataji, when as the goddess she will

> surely stand

> and be recognised as the reality they claim she is?

>

> My parting word is that like it or not, Shri Mataji and her sahaja

> yogis must face the issues presented by those who challenge them.

> Intelligent response is required and what remains to be seen is

> whether they are capable of this. The longer they avoid it, the more

> SY will be clearly identified to be lacking in credibility and its

> members in integrity. The more they will appear to be a cultish

throw-

> back to the dark ages. I recommend the sahaja yogis today change

> their whole approach and start promoting SY as what it is - a

> religion focused around a personality who has claimed, and is

> understood by them, to be the Adi Shakti, divine mother of the

> universe. This is, after all, the year of exposure for SY.

>

> May truth prevail. "

>

>

> Yes, may truth prevail after 38 years of deliberate collective

> dishonesty. Anyone has any idea how long is 38 years? Can anyone

name

> me a single spiritual or religious organization that have

consciously

> lied that long? To make it easier to get a positive answer: Can

> anyone name me a single self-realized soul or believer in God

> Almighty who did so ........... since the dawn of civilization? Then

> how is it possible for tens of thousands to so easily do exactly

that

> so today?

>

> What then is the nature of this negativity that is bent on

destroying

> the promised salvation of humanity? ..... and almost succeeded!

>

> regards to all,

>

>

> jagbir

>