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Day / No. of requests / No. of page requests

1. March 5, 2008 2,080 460

2. March 6, 2008 2,290 664

3. March 7, 2008 1,821 486

4. March 8, 2008 2,961 769

5. March 9, 2008 1,867 542

6. March 10, 2008 2,655 893

7. March 11, 2008 2,116 486

8. March 12, 2008 1,859 473

9. March 13, 2008 2,166 719

10. March 14, 2008 1,786 563

11. March 15, 2008 1,581 512

12. March 16, 2008 1,989 573

13. March 17, 2008 2,206 727

14. March 18, 2008 2,261 699

15. March 19, 2008 3,508 1,147

16. March 20, 2008 1,957 486

17. March 21, 2008 1,968 520

18. March 22, 2008 1,868 472

19. March 23, 2008 2,062 605

20. March 24, 2008 1,733 514

21. March 25, 2008 1,941 483

22. March 26, 2008 2,462 871

23. March 27, 2008 2,728 745

24. March 28, 2008 2,023 592

25. March 29, 2008 1,630 400

26. March 30, 2008 3,475 1,185

27. March 31, 2008 1,418 346

28. April 1, 2008 2,184 588

29. April 2, 2008 2,155 705

30. April 3, 2008 2,104 638

31. April 4, 2008 2,092 586

32. April 5, 2008 1,614 400

33. April 6, 2008 2,076 538

34. April 7, 2008 1,706 507

35. April 8, 2008 2,480 709

36. April 9, 2008 2,659 738

37. April 10, 2008 2,334 760

38. April 11, 2008 2,505 870

39. April 12, 2008 2,490 789

40. April 13, 2008 3,666 1,134

41. April 14, 2008 3,030 724

42. April 15, 2008 2,531 907

 

Dear All,

 

The above are the web statistics for www.al-qiyamah.org.

 

From April 8 onwards, for the first time ever, the page requests have

topped 700 daily for over a week. Maybe this might seem insignificant

but Muslims are exposed to a very different intepretation of the

Quran. More specifically Al-Qiyamah, the heart and soul of Islam, challenges

1400 years of false Muslim indoctrination. To confront and convince Muslims of

such an unprecedented fact is much more difficult than telling Christians that

Jesus is not God Almighty. Only those who thoroughly read the www.al-qiyamah.org

site may be able to doubt the official dogma. So sustained page requests are a

good sign.

 

Maybe Mahesh email to Muslims may have helped trigger this sustained request.

But whatever the reason it bodes well for the future, notwithstanding the fact

that WCASY and their SYSSR is now almost devoid of any attraction for the

religious majority. It bodes well for the future because being effectively

rendered impotent and barren paves the way for the Blossom Time sites to

flourish. Future seekers will increasingly seek them to learn about the

Resurrection. All we need is a critical mass of people with such an awareness.

For that we still have a lot of work to do over the years.

 

However, we must at all times realize the height at which we are standing and

able to view with a new found spiritual clarity ....... a clarity which many

are now increasingly seeking:

 

" By G. Jeffrey MacDonald, Special for USA TODAY

 

Two weeks into the New Year, life in the USA is largely back to

normal. That means time is scarce, stress is high and an ordinary

day — filled with chatter and other noise — permits barely a moment

for the mind to rest in silence.

 

Maybe that's why a growing number of Americans are recognizing a need

to develop their inner life — if not as a spiritual practice, as a

way to cultivate balance and depth in an increasingly hectic,

chaotic, 24/7 world.

 

But many don't know where to begin, especially if they don't consider

themselves " religious. " Even if they are religious, many haven't

found everything they're seeking in weekly services.

 

A survey released last week of 1,400 U.S. adults who haven't attended

religious services in six months found that 72% nevertheless believe

that " God, a higher or supreme being, actually exists. " The survey,

by LifeWay Research, also found that 86% said they can have a " good

relationship with God without belonging to a church. "

 

To many people, focusing on their " inner life " means cultivating a

closer relationship with God, perhaps by developing a meditation or

prayer practice or developing other spiritual disciplines. To others,

it may be a more secular quest for tranquility and connectedness.

 

" An inner life is something everybody has, but we lose touch with

it, " says Bill Dietrich, executive director of the Shalem Institute

for Spiritual Formation in Bethesda, Md. As Americans, " our lives

don't support a contemplative lifestyle " so much as " a constant

search for efficiency. We've got to have some way of breaking through

to what's really important for us, and spiritual discipline helps us

to do that. "

 

http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2008-01-13-spiritual-growth_N.htm

 

The shift in consciousness is taking place. As i said, all we need is

reach a critical mass. There is so much hope that we will eventually

succeed:

 

" Survey: Non-attendees find faith outside church

By Cathy Lynn Grossman, USA TODAY

 

A new survey of U.S. adults who don't go to church, even on holidays,

finds 72% say " God, a higher or supreme being, actually exists. " But

just as many (72%) also say the church is " full of hypocrites. "

Indeed, 44% agree with the statement " Christians get on my nerves. "

 

LifeWay Research, the research arm of the Southern Baptist

Convention, based in Nashville, conducted the survey of

1,402 " unchurched " adults last spring and summer. The margin of error

is plus or minus 2.5 percentage points.

 

The survey defines " unchurched " as people who had not attended a

religious service in a church, synagogue or mosque at any time in the

past six months.

 

More than one in five (22%) of Americans say they never go to church,

the highest ever recorded by the General Social Survey, conducted

every two years by the National Opinion Research Center at the

University of Chicago. In 2004, the percentage was 17%.

 

Many of the unchurched are shaky on Christian basics, says LifeWay

Research director Ed Stetzer.

 

Just 52% agree on the essential Christian belief that " Jesus died and

came back to life. "

 

And 61% say the God of the Bible is " no different from the gods or

spiritual beings depicted by world religions such as Islam, Hinduism,

Buddhism, etc., " although Buddhist philosophy has no god and Hindus

worship many. "

 

http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2008-01-09-unchurched-survey_N.htm

 

As the promised Comforter, Shri Mataji has proven that the God of the

Bible is the same God of the Muslims, Hindus, Jews, Sikhs and others.

The Blossom Time is for all believers in that one and only God

Almighty. Rise and declare it to all the nations!

 

regards to all,

 

jagbir

 

-----------------------

 

Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:13 am

 

Dear Violet and all,

 

It will all work out in future as SYs begin to realize for themselves

the truth of the matter. Mahesh has realized that earlier than the

majority. Other SYs are also finding out the truth as more of them

are now also visiting http://sahajayoga-shrimataji.org/.

 

The SY management/leaders want SYs to only visit kosher SY sites. It

is just like telling SYs going to Paris not to visit the Eiffel Tower

or any of their liver-heating cafes. French perfumes and vineyards

are taboo too. (i have a long list of prohibitions but shall refrain

from mentioning as they are too mundane and depressing for those free

from their SY minders.)

 

The latest from Montreal is that their Yuvashakti is bored of, and

indifferent to, weekly meditations/meetings. The gung-ho spirit of

the 80s and 90s has waned, and i am talking about the SYSSR elders.

The chickens, as predicted, are finally coming home to roost folks.

 

regards to all,

 

jagbir

 

 

, " Violet "

<violetubb wrote:

>

> Dear Jagbir and All,

>

> Mahesh is to be commended for sending the material and links of

http://www.adishakti.org and http://www.al-qiyamah.org/ and

http://www.sahajayoga.org to many Muslim sites. It is a beautiful

email that he sent to the Muslim sites, all of which cannot be seen

in the appended email, which has words also highlighted in it, from

the work that Jagbir has done. In fact, most of the work, is the work

Jagbir has done, and Mahesh basically made a beautiful covering

letter, using Shri Mataji's Words. Jagbir encourages that. That is

what we are about - getting Her Message of the Resurrection and Last

Judgment out there, and we encourage all Sahaja Yogis to work

together with us. We accept and embrace all, warmly, and always

forgive any past misunderstandings, if there have been such. There is

nothing to prevent us all working together. Shri Mataji encourages

this, of Sahaja Yogis, as shown by Her talk on " LOVE " , which She gave

most recently.

>

> The appended email was also sent to every SY in the Toronto

collective as well. It was brave of Mahesh, considering that

the 'officials' of Sahaja Yoga have labelled Jagbir's sites

as 'unofficial'. But Mahesh knows they are in agreement with Shri

Mataji's teachings, otherwise he would not have sent them, or even

mentioned these sites. Apparently after sending the appended letter

to the Muslims, and to the local Toronto yogis, the 'official' Sahaja

Yogis felt the need to set all the SYS back on the right spiritual

path again. Apparently, they sent all the SYS of the Toronto

collective an email, not demanding of course, but only advising, that

they only read the 'official' sites of Sahaja Yoga. They also

apparently gave them a long list of 'official' Sahaj sites, just to

be sure, to keep on the right spiritual path for their spiritual

liberation.

>

> Mahesh must have endured some frustration, with all this knowledge

freely given here, and at the fingertips, and yet labelled

by 'officials' as 'unofficial'. It is natural to want to please

the 'officials' as well as to want to please Shri Mataji. i would

like to have done that too. But i found out i couldn't do justice to

both, unfortunately. i have never heard Shri Mataji use 'official'

and 'unofficial' labels. Truth is what it is. It is the Absolute

Truth. That's what She's always said! There is no 'official'

or 'unofficial' Absolute Truth! As Sahaja Yoga is the Absolute Truth,

there can't really be an 'official Sahaja Yoga' and an 'unofficial

Sahaja Yoga'! So this labelling has to be a mental concept only.

>

> Relative truth is different, and is what we know as the tenets of a

religion that have been formed out of the teachings of an

incarnation. That is, there is the Absolute Truth, and then there are

the rules, regulations, rituals, and customs, that are formed in a

religion. The rules, regulations, rituals, and customs cannot be

called the Absolute Truth, because they vary from religion to

religion. In Sahaja Yoga, we are supposed to be more discriminating.

Shri Mataji said She hoped we would not make a religion out of Her

teachings. But by labelling some of the things Shri Mataji gave

as 'official' and some other aspects of what Shri Mataji gave

as 'unofficial' the 'officials' of Sahaja Yoga are managing,

manipulating, limiting and therefore, in that way, editing Her

Message.

>

> Like Mahesh has done to a certain extent, we all want to work

together. There does not need to be labels of 'official'

and 'unofficial' to divide us. Maybe, time and the new generations

coming up will change things, hopefully, if they are not changed in

our generation. There is no reason Sahaja Yogis should be divided.

Remember the " Love " Message that Shri Mataji gave in a recent talk,

which has not been posted here though, but She talked about the great

need for LOVE. We don't need 'Official Talk'; we need more real love

in action, more open communication, more acceptance, more toleration.

If Sahaja Yogis can't even work together, but have to be

made 'unofficial' or have to be firstly made 'official', how is Shri

Mataji's Message ever going to get out there? Everyone needs to work

together, unofficially, if necessary. 'Unofficial' may be the best

way, so that there are not so many 'official' restrictions, which

Shri Mataji Herself never made!

>

> If everyone does the right thing like Mahesh did, or at least tried

to do, then soon the 'officials' would also become 'unofficial' and

get off their high horses and work for unity instead of trying to

divide SY from SY, as they are doing.

>

> Here then, is that wonderful email. Thanks, Mahesh, for not

regarding us as 'unofficial' here, just because some 'official'

Sahaja Yogis have labelled us as such, not that it worries us - but

it was a nice gesture, anyway. Just as i am sure most Sahaja Yogis

also strive for, our highest priority is for the kingdom of God.

>

> love to all who are working for the kingdom of God on earth,

>

> violet

>

>

> Re: [GeoIslam] Your Mother

> GeoIslam ; 7alat_al_ummah ;

> Al-basma ; al_e7saan ;

> Alfagr-alislamy ; arab-night ;

> Arab_Q ; asd_al_islam_elmasry2 ;

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> maheshkhatri

> Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:45:25 -0700

> [sahajayogaToronto] Re: [GeoIslam] Your Mother

>

> Hello

>

> As you all acknowledge the mother, it is time for all seekers of

truth to know that the mother referred is none other than her

holiness Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi.

>

>

> Muslims, Hindus, Christians and all have to evolve to a higher state

>

> " That you have to be born again, that you have to be baptized, that

you have to become a Pir, that you have to become a Brahmin - all

these descriptions have come to us from all the great scriptures. It

is very easy to say that we don't believe in God, we don't believe in

any Incarnation, we don't believe in Jesus, we don't believe in any

religion, we don't believe into anything; is very easy to say. Even

it is easy to say that we believe in them, we believe in God, we

believe in Christ, we believe in Krishna, Rama, all that. Both things

are equally the same.

>

> When you believe in God you believe in the darkness and ignorance,

and when you do not believe in Him also you are in ignorance. By

believing into you close your eyes, accept the faith and go along

with it. Of course it shows that you are conscious of some Power

which is beyond. Such people have a great chance. But in the case if

you go to these extremes in this kind of faith then you start only

believing in Christ, only believing in Muhammad, only believing in

Krishna - I mean depending on where you are born. How human beings

are so narrow-minded?

>

> If you are born in England either you will be a Catholic, or a

Protestant, or maybe one of these witchcraft people. You believe into

anything because you are localized in a place; there has been some

identifications because your mother believed into something, because

your father believed into something, or you paid for it. And this

faith can become such a blinding effect on people that you develop

absurd types of groups which call themselves as Christians, Hindus,

Muslims - whatever you may say - and are extremely, extremely

exclusive, blind, and fanatic.

>

> Today one of the problems of the times of the modern times is

fanaticism. Now this fanaticism has been growing. The more people try

to get out of this fanaticism, it grows more. "

>

> Shri Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi, Being Born Again

> May 12, 1980 - Caxton Hall, London, U.K.

>

> Links to explore

>

> http://www.sahajayoga.org

> http://www.adishakti.org

> http://www.al-qiyamah.org/

>