But to whom did Shri Mataji confide it was a forgery Gregoire?

[Guest guest]

Dear Nicole,

 

Events over the last few years have shaken up the confidence of many

SYs, though most will not admit it. Thus it is no wonder that " a

fanatical-close-to-the-leader-soldier- " and-so-dedicated-to Shri

Mataji " " was seen seeking faith and solace, albeit secretly, in his

synagogue again.

 

Sir C.P. must be commended for playing a major role in this crisis of

confidence for conferring WCASY members with Shri Mataji's Will .....

.......... by first medicating Her with anti-psychotic drugs against

Her Will,* turning Her into a human vegetable and making Her medical

file public.

 

And decades of abject failure to attract seekers to their SYSSR has

left the rank and file with absolutely no hope, all the more given

Shri Mataji's advanced age and an end to all public programs.

 

Thus even fanatical-close-to-the-leader-soldiers-and-so-dedicated-to

Shri Mataji are now secretly seeking salvation elsewhere. The camel

is dying from the thirst of truth.

 

But please do not worry or feel down about the actions of such highly

esteemed SY leaders/soldiers of the early 1980s. Instead you must

rejoice because that gives us hope and evidence that the destruction

of WCASY and their SYSSR is well on the way. One day we will have

enough strength and numbers to overcome and replace them forever. So

be happy as everything is going the right way folks.

 

regards,

 

jagbir

 

 

* Gregoire must also be knighted for claiming that Shri Mataji, all

drugged and silenced by risperidone** and other medications,

admitted to god-knows-whom that Her previous

http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG is a forgery. Thus

Gregoire is claiming that Shri Mataji, while heavily drugged and

sedated around June/July 2005, somehow managed to know that Guido and

company were acting in accordance to Her 1998 hand-written letter,

and rejected it as a forgery. (Just try comparing any of Shri

Mataji's pervious letters/notes and you will realize that even a

child can tell you that the handwriting is the same.) But to whom did

Shri Mataji confide it was a forgery Gregoire? And how was She able

to do so when She was all drugged and sedated and silenced? Last, but

not the least, can you and WCASY get Shri Mataji to now again claim

it was a forgery and put the matter to rest? (i guess not as it is

obvious that Guido and company just fabricated that letter to make

Shri Mataji deny it as a forgery, insult our intelligence and get

themselves kicked out of Sahaja Yoga! That is so fiendishly simple!)

 

Gregoire de Kalbermatten: recent letter to the worldwide

sangha

July 4, 2005 2:30:36 PM GMT+02:00

 

The sangha and the family

 

Dear friends in the worldwide sangha,

 

At the recent Adi Shakti puja a number of events occurred which

resulted in a long exchange on the health of Shri Mataji. It took

place between an informal group of representatives of the sangha and

sahaja yogis doctors.

 

This encounter covered grounds of concerns including those that

uninformed members of the sangha might have had on medication. It is

perfectly normal that the immense majority of us are uninformed about

health matters because of the obvious privacy to which every citizen

in our society is entitled.

 

We were most happy to hear that HHSM is slowly and steadily improving

and that a full recovery is entirely possible. Responses were given

on related issue including a letter of Shri Mataji dated 1998 (that

Mother has now said is a forgery) that was circulated to everybody in

the pendal. I am not commenting on these medical issues here. But

there are no doubts that the heart felt concern for Mother's health,

notably in Her host countries, is fully shared....

 

Let me restate a simple fact. Shri Mataji is our only and sole guru:

not the leaders, no matter how many (or little) merits they have, not

the emerging Council which is still seeking its path, and not the

members of Her family. From this we can assume that the directions

for our life must come from the depth and sincerity of our

introspection, meditation AND capacity for non-reactivity from the

mental and emotional sides of our being.

 

With much respect and love to all, Grégoire

 

 

 

* " Neuroleptics provided no benefit for patients with mild

behavioural problems, but were associated with a marked deterioration

in verbal skills...

 

The neuroleptics which came under analysis in the study were

thioridazine (Melleril), chlorpromazine (Largactil), haloperidol

(Serenace), trifluoperazine (Stelazine) and risperidone (Risperdal). "

 

www.news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7319393.stm

 

, " Violet "

<violetubb wrote:

>

> Dear Nicole,

>

> i don't think, no wonder how fanatical the SY may be, that they

would dress in a jewish style hat, vest, and black pants, knock on

the synagogue door for admittance, and offer to give the rabbi his

Self-realisation at 8:00 a.m. in the morning, LOL! But since SYS are

only supposed to " give Self-realisation " , what's this SY, whom you

say is close to the leader, doing there at 8:00 a.m. in the morning?!

It's absurd to think he is " giving Self-realisation " under such

strange circumstances, LOL! So what is he doing there?! A

religious 'cabal' have already taken over Shri Mataji's organisation,

if we recall that Mr. Perezhogin of Russia, who was leader for 5

years, resigned saying, that he did not want to operate with their

tactics. Could it be possible, that the same religious 'cabal' that

have taken over Shri Mataji's organisation, also have membership in

other religious organisations? You witnessed it, Nicole. It now

stands as a record. Soemthing untoward is going on, that SYS need to

know about. SYS need to wake up, and see that Shri Mataji's

organisation has been hijacked by spiritually unauthorised people.

>

> violet

>

>

> , " nicole_bougantouche "

> <nicole_bougantouche@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jagbir, Dear Violet, and all

> >

> > The other day, as i was walking to my office, my attention was

> caught by a tall and fat guy

> > dressed in the jewish way, black trousers and vest, large hat...

His

> shape reminded me

> > someone i knew...... Suddenly, i think he just felt that i was

> watching him and he turned

> > his head toward my direction : Yes it was a.... er..... " Sahaja

> Yogi " . When he saw me he

> > looked embarrassed. So i continued to walk in a detached manner

and

> when i reached my

> > office i looked through the window : the " jew-sy " was ringing at

the

> synagogue door, then

> > the door opened... end of the story.

> >

> > Then i asked myself what such a

> fanatical-close-to-the-leader-soldier- " and-so-

> > dedicated-to Shri Mataji " can do at 8:00 AM in a synagogue.

> >

> > Now the question is raised ? Who are you ?, what game are you

> playing ? What side are you

> > on ?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagbir, dear all

 

Thank you for your reply.

 

I don't know what can be the motivation for a " sy " to do so, as, as far as i

know he was not originally a jew, but i wonder about the depth of his faith for

the last 20 years he spent attending meditations, Pujas, singing bhajans,

organizing public programs, blogging,... What justifies such a " U " turn ? It

looks like it is been more a self-advertizing rather a genuine act of devotion,

The future will decide...

 

Conclusion : It is time to restore the Temple within folks .....

 

With Love

nicole

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Sun, 27/4/08, jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote:

 

> jagbir singh <adishakti_org

> But to whom did Shri Mataji confide it was a

forgery Gregoire?

>

> Sunday, 27 April, 2008, 3:03 PM

> Dear Nicole,

>

> Events over the last few years have shaken up the

> confidence of many

> SYs, though most will not admit it. Thus it is no wonder

> that " a

> fanatical-close-to-the-leader-soldier- " and-so-dedicated-to

> Shri

> Mataji " " was seen seeking faith and solace,

> albeit secretly, in his

> synagogue again.

>

> Sir C.P. must be commended for playing a major role in this

> crisis of

> confidence for conferring WCASY members with Shri

> Mataji's Will .....

> ......... by first medicating Her with anti-psychotic

> drugs against

> Her Will,* turning Her into a human vegetable and making

> Her medical

> file public.

>

> And decades of abject failure to attract seekers to their

> SYSSR has

> left the rank and file with absolutely no hope, all the

> more given

> Shri Mataji's advanced age and an end to all public

> programs.

>

> Thus even

> fanatical-close-to-the-leader-soldiers-and-so-dedicated-to

> Shri Mataji are now secretly seeking salvation elsewhere.

> The camel

> is dying from the thirst of truth.

>

> But please do not worry or feel down about the actions of

> such highly

> esteemed SY leaders/soldiers of the early 1980s. Instead

> you must

> rejoice because that gives us hope and evidence that the

> destruction

> of WCASY and their SYSSR is well on the way. One day we

> will have

> enough strength and numbers to overcome and replace them

> forever. So

> be happy as everything is going the right way folks.

>

> regards,

>

> jagbir

>

>

> * Gregoire must also be knighted for claiming that Shri

> Mataji, all

> drugged and silenced by risperidone** and other

> medications,

> admitted to god-knows-whom that Her previous

> http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG is a

> forgery. Thus

> Gregoire is claiming that Shri Mataji, while heavily

> drugged and

> sedated around June/July 2005, somehow managed to know that

> Guido and

> company were acting in accordance to Her 1998 hand-written

> letter,

> and rejected it as a forgery. (Just try comparing any of

> Shri

> Mataji's pervious letters/notes and you will realize

> that even a

> child can tell you that the handwriting is the same.) But

> to whom did

> Shri Mataji confide it was a forgery Gregoire? And how was

> She able

> to do so when She was all drugged and sedated and silenced?

> Last, but

> not the least, can you and WCASY get Shri Mataji to now

> again claim

> it was a forgery and put the matter to rest? (i guess not

> as it is

> obvious that Guido and company just fabricated that letter

> to make

> Shri Mataji deny it as a forgery, insult our intelligence

> and get

> themselves kicked out of Sahaja Yoga! That is so fiendishly

> simple!)

>

> Gregoire de Kalbermatten: recent letter to the

> worldwide

> sangha

> July 4, 2005 2:30:36 PM GMT+02:00

>

> The sangha and the family

>

> Dear friends in the worldwide sangha,

>

> At the recent Adi Shakti puja a number of events occurred

> which

> resulted in a long exchange on the health of Shri Mataji.

> It took

> place between an informal group of representatives of the

> sangha and

> sahaja yogis doctors.

>

> This encounter covered grounds of concerns including those

> that

> uninformed members of the sangha might have had on

> medication. It is

> perfectly normal that the immense majority of us are

> uninformed about

> health matters because of the obvious privacy to which

> every citizen

> in our society is entitled.

>

> We were most happy to hear that HHSM is slowly and steadily

> improving

> and that a full recovery is entirely possible. Responses

> were given

> on related issue including a letter of Shri Mataji dated

> 1998 (that

> Mother has now said is a forgery) that was circulated to

> everybody in

> the pendal. I am not commenting on these medical issues

> here. But

> there are no doubts that the heart felt concern for

> Mother's health,

> notably in Her host countries, is fully shared....

>

> Let me restate a simple fact. Shri Mataji is our only and

> sole guru:

> not the leaders, no matter how many (or little) merits they

> have, not

> the emerging Council which is still seeking its path, and

> not the

> members of Her family. From this we can assume that the

> directions

> for our life must come from the depth and sincerity of our

> introspection, meditation AND capacity for non-reactivity

> from the

> mental and emotional sides of our being.

>

> With much respect and love to all, Grégoire

>

>

>

> * " Neuroleptics provided no benefit for patients with

> mild

> behavioural problems, but were associated with a marked

> deterioration

> in verbal skills...

>

> The neuroleptics which came under analysis in the study

> were

> thioridazine (Melleril), chlorpromazine (Largactil),

> haloperidol

> (Serenace), trifluoperazine (Stelazine) and risperidone

> (Risperdal). "

>

> www.news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7319393.stm

>

> ,

> " Violet "

> <violetubb wrote:

> >

> > Dear Nicole,

> >

> > i don't think, no wonder how fanatical the SY may

> be, that they

> would dress in a jewish style hat, vest, and black pants,

> knock on

> the synagogue door for admittance, and offer to give the

> rabbi his

> Self-realisation at 8:00 a.m. in the morning, LOL! But

> since SYS are

> only supposed to " give Self-realisation " ,

> what's this SY, whom you

> say is close to the leader, doing there at 8:00 a.m. in the

> morning?!

> It's absurd to think he is " giving

> Self-realisation " under such

> strange circumstances, LOL! So what is he doing there?! A

> religious 'cabal' have already taken over Shri

> Mataji's organisation,

> if we recall that Mr. Perezhogin of Russia, who was leader

> for 5

> years, resigned saying, that he did not want to operate

> with their

> tactics. Could it be possible, that the same religious

> 'cabal' that

> have taken over Shri Mataji's organisation, also have

> membership in

> other religious organisations? You witnessed it, Nicole. It

> now

> stands as a record. Soemthing untoward is going on, that

> SYS need to

> know about. SYS need to wake up, and see that Shri

> Mataji's

> organisation has been hijacked by spiritually unauthorised

> people.

> >

> > violet

> >

> >

> > ,

> " nicole_bougantouche "

> > <nicole_bougantouche@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Jagbir, Dear Violet, and all

> > >

> > > The other day, as i was walking to my office, my

> attention was

> > caught by a tall and fat guy

> > > dressed in the jewish way, black trousers and

> vest, large hat...

> His

> > shape reminded me

> > > someone i knew...... Suddenly, i think he just

> felt that i was

> > watching him and he turned

> > > his head toward my direction : Yes it was a....

> er..... " Sahaja

> > Yogi " . When he saw me he

> > > looked embarrassed. So i continued to walk in a

> detached manner

> and

> > when i reached my

> > > office i looked through the window : the

> " jew-sy " was ringing at

> the

> > synagogue door, then

> > > the door opened... end of the story.

> > >

> > > Then i asked myself what such a

> > fanatical-close-to-the-leader-soldier- " and-so-

> > > dedicated-to Shri Mataji " can do at 8:00 AM

> in a synagogue.

> > >

> > > Now the question is raised ? Who are you ?, what

> game are you

> > playing ? What side are you

> > > on ?

> > >

> >

 

 

Explore your hobbies and interests. Go to

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[Guest guest]

>

> Events over the last few years have shaken up the confidence of many

> SYs, though most will not admit it. Thus it is no wonder that " a

> fanatical-close-to-the-leader-soldier- " and-so-dedicated-to Shri

> Mataji " " was seen seeking faith and solace, albeit secretly, in his

> synagogue again.

>

 

to www.adishakti.org@...,

date Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 1:01 PM

subject adishakti.org

 

Hello guys & gals,

 

This is a brilliant site! The best on Nirmala Devi by far.

 

Do not let the intellectuals of SY stop you from keeping this site

going.

 

Many of them do not recognise her and it has become a weak shadow of

what it potentialy could be.

 

Keep up the good work and watch out for ADI SHAKTI t-shirts appearing

in pop videos soon.

 

I have been telling people that she is the divine for years but they

shut me out.

 

People should get their realisation on monday and go to a puja on

sunday. Leave them alone and they will sort themselves out

 

Yes it's that good!!

 

I may becoming over to America soon and would love to meet up

 

Till then

 

Keep up the good work

 

 

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

>

> Dear Nicole,

>

> Events over the last few years have shaken up the confidence of many

> SYs, though most will not admit it. Thus it is no wonder that " a

> fanatical-close-to-the-leader-soldier- " and-so-dedicated-to Shri

> Mataji " " was seen seeking faith and solace, albeit secretly, in his

> synagogue again.

>

> Sir C.P. must be commended for playing a major role in this crisis

of

> confidence for conferring WCASY members with Shri Mataji's

Will .....

> ......... by first medicating Her with anti-psychotic drugs against

> Her Will,* turning Her into a human vegetable and making Her medical

> file public.

>

> And decades of abject failure to attract seekers to their SYSSR has

> left the rank and file with absolutely no hope, all the more given

> Shri Mataji's advanced age and an end to all public programs.

>

> Thus even fanatical-close-to-the-leader-soldiers-and-so-dedicated-to

> Shri Mataji are now secretly seeking salvation elsewhere. The camel

> is dying from the thirst of truth.

>

> But please do not worry or feel down about the actions of such

highly

> esteemed SY leaders/soldiers of the early 1980s. Instead you must

> rejoice because that gives us hope and evidence that the destruction

> of WCASY and their SYSSR is well on the way. One day we will have

> enough strength and numbers to overcome and replace them forever. So

> be happy as everything is going the right way folks.

>

> regards,

>

> jagbir

>

>

> * Gregoire must also be knighted for claiming that Shri Mataji, all

> drugged and silenced by risperidone** and other medications,

> admitted to god-knows-whom that Her previous

> http://www.adishakti.org/images/sm_1998_letter.JPG is a forgery.

Thus

> Gregoire is claiming that Shri Mataji, while heavily drugged and

> sedated around June/July 2005, somehow managed to know that Guido

and

> company were acting in accordance to Her 1998 hand-written letter,

> and rejected it as a forgery. (Just try comparing any of Shri

> Mataji's pervious letters/notes and you will realize that even a

> child can tell you that the handwriting is the same.) But to whom

did

> Shri Mataji confide it was a forgery Gregoire? And how was She able

> to do so when She was all drugged and sedated and silenced? Last,

but

> not the least, can you and WCASY get Shri Mataji to now again claim

> it was a forgery and put the matter to rest? (i guess not as it is

> obvious that Guido and company just fabricated that letter to make

> Shri Mataji deny it as a forgery, insult our intelligence and get

> themselves kicked out of Sahaja Yoga! That is so fiendishly simple!)

>

> Gregoire de Kalbermatten: recent letter to the worldwide

> sangha

> July 4, 2005 2:30:36 PM GMT+02:00

>

> The sangha and the family

>

> Dear friends in the worldwide sangha,

>

> At the recent Adi Shakti puja a number of events occurred which

> resulted in a long exchange on the health of Shri Mataji. It took

> place between an informal group of representatives of the sangha and

> sahaja yogis doctors.

>

> This encounter covered grounds of concerns including those that

> uninformed members of the sangha might have had on medication. It is

> perfectly normal that the immense majority of us are uninformed

about

> health matters because of the obvious privacy to which every citizen

> in our society is entitled.

>

> We were most happy to hear that HHSM is slowly and steadily

improving

> and that a full recovery is entirely possible. Responses were given

> on related issue including a letter of Shri Mataji dated 1998 (that

> Mother has now said is a forgery) that was circulated to everybody

in

> the pendal. I am not commenting on these medical issues here. But

> there are no doubts that the heart felt concern for Mother's health,

> notably in Her host countries, is fully shared....

>

> Let me restate a simple fact. Shri Mataji is our only and sole guru:

> not the leaders, no matter how many (or little) merits they have,

not

> the emerging Council which is still seeking its path, and not the

> members of Her family. From this we can assume that the directions

> for our life must come from the depth and sincerity of our

> introspection, meditation AND capacity for non-reactivity from the

> mental and emotional sides of our being.

>

> With much respect and love to all, Grégoire

>

>

>

> * " Neuroleptics provided no benefit for patients with mild

> behavioural problems, but were associated with a marked

deterioration

> in verbal skills...

>

> The neuroleptics which came under analysis in the study were

> thioridazine (Melleril), chlorpromazine (Largactil), haloperidol

> (Serenace), trifluoperazine (Stelazine) and risperidone

(Risperdal). "

>

> www.news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7319393.stm

>

> , " Violet "

> <violetubb@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Nicole,

> >

> > i don't think, no wonder how fanatical the SY may be, that they

> would dress in a jewish style hat, vest, and black pants, knock on

> the synagogue door for admittance, and offer to give the rabbi his

> Self-realisation at 8:00 a.m. in the morning, LOL! But since SYS are

> only supposed to " give Self-realisation " , what's this SY, whom you

> say is close to the leader, doing there at 8:00 a.m. in the

morning?!

> It's absurd to think he is " giving Self-realisation " under such

> strange circumstances, LOL! So what is he doing there?! A

> religious 'cabal' have already taken over Shri Mataji's

organisation,

> if we recall that Mr. Perezhogin of Russia, who was leader for 5

> years, resigned saying, that he did not want to operate with their

> tactics. Could it be possible, that the same religious 'cabal' that

> have taken over Shri Mataji's organisation, also have membership in

> other religious organisations? You witnessed it, Nicole. It now

> stands as a record. Soemthing untoward is going on, that SYS need to

> know about. SYS need to wake up, and see that Shri Mataji's

> organisation has been hijacked by spiritually unauthorised people.

> >

> > violet

> >

> >

> > --- In

, " nicole_bougantouche "

> > <nicole_bougantouche@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Jagbir, Dear Violet, and all

> > >

> > > The other day, as i was walking to my office, my attention was

> > caught by a tall and fat guy

> > > dressed in the jewish way, black trousers and vest, large hat...

> His

> > shape reminded me

> > > someone i knew...... Suddenly, i think he just felt that i was

> > watching him and he turned

> > > his head toward my direction : Yes it was a.... er..... " Sahaja

> > Yogi " . When he saw me he

> > > looked embarrassed. So i continued to walk in a detached manner

> and

> > when i reached my

> > > office i looked through the window : the " jew-sy " was ringing at

> the

> > synagogue door, then

> > > the door opened... end of the story.

> > >

> > > Then i asked myself what such a

> > fanatical-close-to-the-leader-soldier- " and-so-

> > > dedicated-to Shri Mataji " can do at 8:00 AM in a synagogue.

> > >

> > > Now the question is raised ? Who are you ?, what game are you

> > playing ? What side are you

> > > on ?

> > >

> >

>