Comparing a single note from the Quran with an entire orchestra of the Guru Granth

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> Hi everybody,

> I am kind of a new member in here. Allah willing, I hope to

> contribute more realization of each of us with the articles I found

> out and while sending it to you all. I hope you enjoy reading the

> scientifically explanations of verses of Quran. I would like to

> send you all as much as possible in following days, the articles

> like this one. It is amazing and miraculous to see how

> scientifically the surahs/verses, the words of our Creator, was

> told to the messenger and so written by Creator's messenger Prophet

> Mohammad that in that time of the world. the time of Islam was

> sent, it was not possible to be known those scientific facts

> whereas those facts are found out in 20th or 21th century.

> Take care..

> Ayse

>

> WE LIVE IN AN EXPANDING UNIVERSE

>

> 47- With power did We construct heaven. Verily, We are expanding it.

>

> 51-The Dispersing, 47

>

>

 

Hi Ayse,

 

i think you are referring to a single note and want us to be awed.

The only reason for your overflowing confidence is due to your utter

lack of knowledge about the Holy Scriptures from India. Muslims make

mountains out of the molehills of the Quran, a centuries-old

collective mindset that is the norm since all other Holy Scriptures

and their founders/saints are rejected even though 123,974 of 124,000

prophets sent by Allah are still missing for the last 14 centuries!

 

" Beginning with Adam, Islamic tradition asserts, God sends 124,000

prophets at various times and to every community to remind people of

their obligation to the one and only sovereign Lord and warn them

against heedlessness and disobedience. The Qur'an declares, `There is

not a nation but that a warner was sent to it' (Q. 26:207) "

 

Abdullah Yusuf Ali, The Holy Qur'an

(Abdullah Yusuf Ali, The Holy Qur'an, Amana Corporation, 1989.)

 

/message/7575

 

So if you and your fellow Muslims ever try reading what is written in

the Vedas, Puranaas, Upanishads, Guru Granth and others, you will

never again use words like " amazing " or " miraculous " to describe the

Quran. It is embarrassing to just listen to a single note--Verse 47:51

(The Dispersing) " With power did We construct heaven. Verily, We are

expanding it " --and think you are hearing an orchestra reaching a

thunderous crescendo. It truly insults intelligence Ayse.

 

i am just appending 2 pages of the voluminous 1430 paged Guru Granth

Sahib so that you may hear what is truly a magnum opus. Please

understand that there many more musical scores in this Sikh holy

scripture, tour de force scores that call for a standing ovation. (i

do not even want to touch the Hindu scriptures as that will truly

humble you and your fellow Muslims .......... provided you all do

have the humility to accept the fact that except for eschatology,

prophecy and the Sure Signs of Qiyamah, the Vedas, Puranaas,

Upanishads, Guru Granth and others are far superior all-round. i am

appending only two pages (below) to bring home that fact.

 

regards,

 

jagbir

 

 

Note: The Big Bang theory is readily accepted by Muslims because the

Koran may mention it. However there is a complete distest for

evolution (same for Christian fundamenalists) even though there is

far more evidence for evolution than the Big Bang.

 

BTW, the 2 pages below are pre-Big Bang (and the Guru Granth Sahib is

without question a magnificent masterpeice of evolution)!

 

 

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Arbad narbad dhun dhookaaraa.

For endless eons, there was only utter darkness.

 

Dharan na gagnaa hukam apaaraa.

There was no earth or sky; there was only the infinite Command of His

Hukam.

 

Naa din rain na chand na sooraj sunn samaaDh lagaa-idaa.||1||

There was no day or night, no moon or sun; God sat in primal,

profound Samaadhi. ||1||

 

Khaanee na banee pa-un na paanee.

There were no sources of creation or powers of speech, no air or

water.

 

Opat khapat na aavan jaanee.

There was no creation or destruction, no coming or going.

 

Khand pataal sapat nahee saagar nadee na neer vahaa-idaa. ||2||

There were no continents, nether regions, seven seas, rivers or

flowing water. ||2||

 

Naa tad surag machh pa-i-aalaa.

There were no heavenly realms, earth or nether regions of the

underworld.

 

Dojak bhisat nahee khai kaalaa.

There was no heaven or hell, no death or time.

 

Narak surag nahee jaman marnaa naa ko aa-ay na jaa-idaa. ||3||

There was no hell or heaven, no birth or death, no coming or going in

reincarnation. ||3||

 

Barahmaa bisan mahays na ko-ee.

There was no Brahma, Vishnu or Shiva.

 

Avar na deesai ayko so-ee.

No one was seen, except the One Lord.

 

Naar purakh nahee jaat na janmaa naa ko dukh sukh paa-idaa. ||4||

There was no female or male, no social class or caste of birth; no

one experienced pain or pleasure. ||4||

 

Naa tad jatee satee banvaasee.

There were no people of celibacy or charity; no one lived in the

forests.

Naa tad siDh saaDhik sukhvaasee.

There were no Siddhas or seekers, no one living in peace. There were

no Yogis, no wandering pilgrims, no religious robes; no one called

himself the master. ||5||

 

Jap tap sanjam naa barat poojaa.

There was no chanting or meditation, no self-discipline, fasting or

worship.

 

Naa ko aakh vakhaanai doojaa.

No one spoke or talked in duality.

 

Aapay aap upaa-ay vigsai aapay keemat paa-idaa. ||6||

He created Himself, and rejoiced; He evaluates Himself. ||6||

 

Naa such sanjam tulsee maalaa.

There was no purification, no self-restraint, no malas of basil

seeds.

 

Gopee kaan na ga-oo go-aalaa.

There were no Gopis, no Krishna, no cows or cowherds.

 

Tant mant pakhand na ko-ee naa ko vans vajaa-idaa. ||7||

There were no tantras, no mantras and no hypocrisy; no one played the

flute. ||7||

 

Karam gharam nahee maa-i-aa maakhee.

There was no karma, no Dharma, no buzzing fly of Maya.

 

Jaat janam nahee deesai aakhee.

Social class and birth were not seen with any eyes.

 

Mamtaa jaal kaal nahee maathai naa ko kisai dhi-aa-idaa. ||8||

There was no noose of attachment, no death inscribed upon the

forehead; no one meditated on anything. ||8||

 

Nind bind nahee jee-o na jindo.

There was no slander, no seed, no soul and no life.

 

Naa tad gorakh naa maachhindo.

There was no Gorakh and no Maachhindra.

 

Naa tad gi-aan Dhi-aan kul opat naa ko ganat ganaa-idaa. ||9||

There was no spiritual wisdom or meditation, no ancestry or creation,

no reckoning of accounts. ||9||

 

Yaran bhaykh nahee barahman khatree.

There were no castes or social classes, no religious robes, no

Brahmin or Kh'shaatriya.

 

Day-o na dayhuraa ga-oo gaa-itaree.

There were no demi-gods or temples, no cows or Gaayatri prayer.

 

Hom jag nahee tirath naavan naa ko poojaa laa-idaa. ||10||

There were no burnt offerings, no ceremonial feasts, no cleansing

rituals at sacred shrines of pilgrimage; no one worshipped in

adoration. ||10||

 

Naa ko mulaa naa ko kaajee.

There was no Mullah, there was no Qazi.

 

Naa ko saykh masaa-ik haajee.

There was no Shaykh, or pilgrims to Mecca.

 

Ra-ee-at raa-o na ha-umai dunee-aa naa ko kahan kahaa-idaa. ||11||

There was no king or subjects, and no worldly egotism; no one spoke

of himself. ||11||

 

Bhaa-o na bhagtee naa siv saktee.

There was no love or devotion, no Shiva or Shakti - no energy or

matter.

 

Saajan meet bind nahee raktee.

There were no friends or companions, no semen or blood.

 

Aapay saahu aapay vanjaaraa saachay ayho bhaa-idaa. ||12||

He Himself is the banker, and He Himself is the merchant. Such is the

Pleasure of the Will of the True Lord. ||12||

 

Bayd katayb na simrit saasat.

There were no Vedas, Korans or Bibles, no Simritees or Shaastras.

 

Paath puraan udai nahee aasat.

There was no recitation of the Puraanas, no sunrise or sunset.

 

Kahtaa baktaa aap agochar aapay alakh lakhaa-idaa. ||13||

The Unfathomable Lord Himself was the speaker and the preacher; the

unseen Lord Himself saw everything. ||13||

 

Jaa tis bhaanaa taa jagat upaa-i-aa.

When He (Waheguru/God Almighty) so willed, She (Aykaa Mayee/His

Shakti) created the world.

 

Baajh kalaa aadaan rahaa-i-aa.

Without any supporting power, She sustained the universe.

 

Barahmaa bisan mahays upaa-ay maa-i-aa moh vaDhaa-idaa. ||14||

She created Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva; She fostered enticement and

attachment to Maya. ||14||

 

Virlay ka-o gur sabad sunaa-i-aa.

How rare is that person who listens to the Word of the Guru's Shabad.

 

Kar kar daykhai hukam sabaa-i-aa.

She created the creation, and watches over it; the Hukam of His

Command is over all.

 

Khand barahmand paataal arambhay guptahu pargatee aa-idaa. ||15||

She formed the planets, solar systems and nether regions, and brought

what was hidden to manifestation. ||15||

 

Taa kaa ant na jaanai ko-ee.

No one knows His limits.

 

Pooray gur tay sojhee ho-ee.

This understanding comes from the Perfect Guru.

 

Naanak saach ratay bismaadee bisam bha-ay gun gaa-idaa. ||16||3||15||

O Nanak, those who are attuned to the Truth are wonderstruck; singing

His Glorious Praises, they are filled with wonder. ||16||3||15||

 

Guru Nanak Ji

Page 1035 and 1036, Sri Guru Grath Sahib