What Shri Mataji said about the Buddha - Part 2

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Dear All,

 

In Part 1, we concluded with these words of Shri Mataji:

 

" However, conditionings often prevent us from accepting and enjoying whatever is

given in the present moment. Conditionings can include desires about food or

family or many things. For example, Indians must have Indian food; some women

carry a great deal of cosmetics on the India Tour, and some people try to

compete with the leader. In the West, conditionings are not so much for food,

but more related to the house. Some women will try to live separately, and try

to keep their husbands to themselves [i.e. having an individualistic instead of

collective outlook]. Some people stick onto their own culture. Whatever is good

in any culture should be accepted, because whatever is in the universal culture,

is in Sahaja Yoga. But we falter because of our conditionings. Shri Mahavira

described the punishments for people who indulge into their conditionings. He

has talked about the horrible things that will happen to them, where they will

end up, if they continue in their conditionings. Collectivity helps us to

overcome our conditionings. "

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

Shri Buddha Puja Synopsis

Dienze, Belgium

4 August, 1991

 

Here now, is Part 2.

 

Enjoy!

 

violet

 

 

What Shri Mataji said about the Buddha - Part 2

 

One common thing about Shri Mahavira and all his contemporaries like Shri Buddha

and Kabira, was that they did not talk about God. They only talked about the

abstract or formless because the worst conditionings at that time were that the

people worshipped any deity or anything (with no connection). So they emphasized

Self-realization. Even Shri Mataji in the beginning said, " Get your

Self-realization " and did not talk about God. They focused on Atma Gnyana (Self

Knowledge). Early Buddhists and the Gnostics experienced the Cool Breeze of the

Holy Ghost. There were very few of them, but their quality was very high because

all of them had come through penances. Because the difference between them and

others quality-wise was so much, that they could not impress the others, and so

it just died out.

 

Another reason the Incarnations did not talk about God was that the people were

not at the stage where they could understand. These incarnations knew about the

coming of Shri Mataji who would talk about God. Buddha has talked about the

future Buddha which is Matreya. 'Ma' is Mother, who is in the three forms:

Mahakali, Mahalakshmi and Mahasaraswati. If you ask any Buddhist to ask: " Shri

Mataji, are you Matreya? " , he gets his Self-realization right then.

 

Taoism and Zen are both offshoots of Buddhism in the real sense; they both

expressed Buddha's ideals about Sahaja Yoga. Zen means 'dhyan' (meditation) and

Tao is nothing but Sahaja Yoga. They used to tap people's spinal cord to raise

the Kundalini, but this has died out. The head of the Zen organization knows he

is not realized and admitted to Shri Mataji that there were only 26 Kashupas

(realized souls) throughout. After the sixth century, there were very few, and

it has died out.

 

That means how lucky you are, that you are all realized! Our banyan tree is the

collectivity. We have to make ourselves 'subtler things' to be 'one' with the

collective, and that is very enjoyable.... very beautiful. [break Quote]

 

[shri Mataji says that we have to make ourselves 'subtler things' in order to be

'one' with the collective. Shri Mataji has described this 'subtler way' as

" ananya " (Sanskrit, meaning 'no other') In reality, collectivity is an " inner

collectivity of the Spirit " :

 

" I think people don’t even understand the meaning of collectivity - where

there's not 'the other', ananya (Sanskrit –> no other). There's no other

personality. These personalities are separated from you, because of left and

right or it could be both. But you, yourself, are fully [collective] when you

are absolutely detached and your Kundalini is dancing. You are alone and never

alone. "

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

Shri Adi Kundalini Puja

Germany

11 August, 1991]

 

[Resume Quote]

 

Those that cannot do it, cannot progress in Sahaja Yoga. They create problems,

are very problematic, and they trouble everyone. Their attention is bad, and no

one knows how they stand. Buddha's message is of course, not to develop ego. But

how do you do that? Whatever you are doing, you have to say: " I'm not doing it.

It's Mother who is doing it.... or [it's] God who is doing it. I'm not doing

anything " But if you feel that you are doing something for Sahaja Yoga, it is

better [that] you stop doing it. [break Quote]

 

[Folks, when one is doing something for Sahaja Yoga, one is really doing

something for themselves; it is benefiting themselves. What benefits the " Self "

benefits everyone, because of this connection, that we are all part and parcel

of the Whole. One doesn't see themselves as separate, nor does one see

themselves as doing something separately. One is 'collectively' conscious, where

there is no 'other' separate from themselves.]

 

[Resume Quote]:

 

But if you feel that you are doing something for Sahaja Yoga, it is better

[that] you stop doing it. You should say: 'No, it came my way, I wasn't doing

anything. I was just there, that's all.' Then you have achieved a great deal.

 

And the second thing is of 'desire'. All desires of the smallest or biggest

thing, or even [in relation to] loving your children, if they are not fulfilled,

you feel frustrated. Then, you must know, there is something 'wrong' with you.

But, if you understand a 'sense of collectivity', then you can ascend very fast.

[in this regard] the only nation I have found very good, is Russia. Because of

'communism', they are collective and desireless, because all their desires were

fulfilled by 'communistic' ideas. They didn't have many choices left, and [so]

they were 'collective'. In a way, communism has suited the public, not the

government.... while, the other way around, democracy has suited the government,

but the public has suffered.

 

I would say the collectivity develops in the West much faster, no doubt. But

desirelessness is less. So, it's like somebody has the 'teeth' and somebody

[else] has the 'food'. If we can see ourselves as we are, and try to understand

that either we have 'this' or 'that' problem.... if you could just somehow or

other neutralize this one-sided problem, you could be there! Because if you

solve one, you can go to the other. But just stand in the center and see for

yourself: " What are my desires? " Count them one by one.

 

If I have to think 'What is My desire', I become thoughtless.

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

Shri Buddha Puja Synopsis

Dienze, Belgium

4 August, 1991