Christ, Conditioning, and the Ego - Part 1

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

 

Here is the first part of a series on what Shri Mataji gave about Christ,

Conditioning, and the Ego.

 

Enjoy!

 

violet

 

 

 

Christ, Conditioning, and the Ego - Part 1

 

It was a great day when Christ came on this earth, and you know about how he was

specially created to come down as a human being, to work out this salvation of

the people. It is said that he came to India in Cashmere and he met there the

king, Shalivahan:

 

http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IEE20051107033706 & Page=E & Title=Start\

rek & Topic=0.

 

This is all in Sanskrit. I read that the conversation took place between Christ

and King Shalivahan who was a great devotee of the Mother, and he asked him:

" What is your name? " in Sanskrit. So he said: " I come from a country where

people believe in filth and I think this is my own country. " So Shalivahan said:

" You are such a great person, who has come on this earth so you should go back

to those countries, to save them and tell them about the pure principle of

life. " In Sanskrit, it was written as " Nirmala Tattwa " , and Christ went back,

and after three and a half years only, he was crucified.

 

These were special days. I call them the days of " tapasya " . In those times

Buddha and Mahavira were born at the same level of the Virata, the forehead. As

you know, according to the Vedas there are seven centers of awareness. We can go

through all the subtle qualities that we have within ourselves. The first one

was the " bhou " who is Ganesha's creature. The second is " bouhara " , meaning 'all

that is created around us'. The third one is " swaha " , the nabhi chakra. Swaha is

the one who can consume everything. In modern times you see that people go on

consuming everything. All kinds of books they will read. They go to all kinds of

things; to 'acid' if you tell them. Why do you do it; what's wrong?! Why do you

dress up like this; what's wrong?! This consumption of everything just goes on!

 

But then there is another great thing within us that is called " swadha " , by

which we sustain the dharma within us. There is the 'swadha dharma' of

everything. You see those people who say there is a 'blind faith' and this and

that. It is not 'blind' but it is an 'inner urge'. Why do we love our parents?

Because there is a dharma within us. Why do we live within our country? Because

there is a dharma within us. Why does a wife love her husband? Because there is

dharma. Why does a husband love his wife? Because there is dharma. All these

dharmas are there! When this dharma is within you, you're not a 'tainted'

religion, which can mean something else. This dharma is sustained directly, once

it is attained within ourselves and becomes 'swadha'. That is our capacity; that

is our quality. We can call it an 'innate understanding', some of which is even

in the animals - such as attachment to their parents, attachment to their

masters.

 

Then comes the higher awareness where you are 'manas', a short mind. There are

many confusions, a big confusion of the mind. The English language can be quite

confusing. 'Manas' means: " by which we have emotions " . Recently I read that they

are now talking not only about IQ (Intelligence Quotient), but about EQ

(Emotional Quotient). EQ means the 'emotional co-efficient'. That means a person

who has only intelligence, is not alright. He must also have the balance of

emotions. They are coming to it now, but at first they only used to place people

with the IQ which is not the situation. Now it is different. Perhaps they are

now realising, how through intelligence people have created chaos, violence and

all kinds of destruction on this earth. So now they are talking about a higher

capacity within us, called the EQ which capacity is emotional. This emotional

capacity comes to you as an inner urge, as an inner capability, which cannot be

awarded by someone. A person may be anything in life, but if he has no love, if

he hasn't got any emotional feelings, then he is not complete.

 

Now these emotional things could also be very limited, no doubt! There could be

something which gets attached to somebody, or something can also happen with the

IQ where we get attached to some ideas like Hitler had some ideas - believing it

was the truth and he had to do it. So when you get attached to one idea like

that, you can just do things which are not helpful at all to the support and

nourishment of reality. All these things, such as the destructions of war, have

happened. Also, as you see nowadays, people are secretly trying to destroy

others. All these are coming as " anti-feeling " , where the 'manas' have developed

a domination of the intelligence - where the emotions are dominated by

intelligence and rationality.

 

So there is another awareness within us, another capability within us, another

'earth' within us, which is innately built. It is the 'jana'. The " jana " means

'the people, the communication'. You cannot live alone. You see a man who goes

to jail is quite happy, quite comfortable, no work to do, everything is done for

him, he has a 'good class', lives very well; much better than he would outside -

but the only thing is, he cannot meet other people! He cannot communicate! And

when this capacity of communication, which is part of a person of human

existence is taken away, they feel absolutely frustrated and unhappy! They don't

mind labouring and doing all kinds of menial work, as long as they are not in

the jail that is cut off from communication with others! So this communication

is also an inner urge within us.

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

Christmas Puja

Ganapatipule, India

24 December, 1995

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

 

'Cashmere' should have read as 'Kashmir'. i am surprised some people still use

'Cashmere' in this global age, when we all know it is " Kashmir " . However,

somehow, the wrong spelling escaped my attention! Please excuse.

 

love to all,

 

violet

 

 

, " Violet " <violetubb

wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> Here is the first part of a series on what Shri Mataji gave about

Christ, Conditioning, and the Ego.

>

> Enjoy!

>

> violet

>

>

>

> Christ, Conditioning, and the Ego - Part 1

>

> It was a great day when Christ came on this earth, and you know

about how he was specially created to come down as a human being, to

work out this salvation of the people. It is said that he came to

India in Cashmere and he met there the king, Shalivahan:

>

>

http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IEE20051107033706 & Page=E & Title=Start\

rek & Topic=0.

>

> This is all in Sanskrit. I read that the conversation took place

between Christ and King Shalivahan who was a great devotee of the

Mother, and he asked him: " What is your name? " in Sanskrit. So he

said: " I come from a country where people believe in filth and I think

this is my own country. " So Shalivahan said: " You are such a great

person, who has come on this earth so you should go back to those

countries, to save them and tell them about the pure principle of

life. " In Sanskrit, it was written as " Nirmala Tattwa " , and Christ

went back, and after three and a half years only, he was crucified.

>

> These were special days. I call them the days of " tapasya " . In those

times Buddha and Mahavira were born at the same level of the Virata,

the forehead. As you know, according to the Vedas there are seven

centers of awareness. We can go through all the subtle qualities that

we have within ourselves. The first one was the " bhou " who is

Ganesha's creature. The second is " bouhara " , meaning 'all that is

created around us'. The third one is " swaha " , the nabhi chakra. Swaha

is the one who can consume everything. In modern times you see that

people go on consuming everything. All kinds of books they will read.

They go to all kinds of things; to 'acid' if you tell them. Why do you

do it; what's wrong?! Why do you dress up like this; what's wrong?!

This consumption of everything just goes on!

>

> But then there is another great thing within us that is called

" swadha " , by which we sustain the dharma within us. There is the

'swadha dharma' of everything. You see those people who say there is a

'blind faith' and this and that. It is not 'blind' but it is an 'inner

urge'. Why do we love our parents? Because there is a dharma within

us. Why do we live within our country? Because there is a dharma

within us. Why does a wife love her husband? Because there is dharma.

Why does a husband love his wife? Because there is dharma. All these

dharmas are there! When this dharma is within you, you're not a

'tainted' religion, which can mean something else. This dharma is

sustained directly, once it is attained within ourselves and becomes

'swadha'. That is our capacity; that is our quality. We can call it an

'innate understanding', some of which is even in the animals - such as

attachment to their parents, attachment to their masters.

>

> Then comes the higher awareness where you are 'manas', a short mind.

There are many confusions, a big confusion of the mind. The English

language can be quite confusing. 'Manas' means: " by which we have

emotions " . Recently I read that they are now talking not only about IQ

(Intelligence Quotient), but about EQ (Emotional Quotient). EQ means

the 'emotional co-efficient'. That means a person who has only

intelligence, is not alright. He must also have the balance of

emotions. They are coming to it now, but at first they only used to

place people with the IQ which is not the situation. Now it is

different. Perhaps they are now realising, how through intelligence

people have created chaos, violence and all kinds of destruction on

this earth. So now they are talking about a higher capacity within us,

called the EQ which capacity is emotional. This emotional capacity

comes to you as an inner urge, as an inner capability, which cannot be

awarded by someone. A person may be anything in life, but if he has no

love, if he hasn't got any emotional feelings, then he is not complete.

>

> Now these emotional things could also be very limited, no doubt!

There could be something which gets attached to somebody, or something

can also happen with the IQ where we get attached to some ideas like

Hitler had some ideas - believing it was the truth and he had to do

it. So when you get attached to one idea like that, you can just do

things which are not helpful at all to the support and nourishment of

reality. All these things, such as the destructions of war, have

happened. Also, as you see nowadays, people are secretly trying to

destroy others. All these are coming as " anti-feeling " , where the

'manas' have developed a domination of the intelligence - where the

emotions are dominated by intelligence and rationality.

>

> So there is another awareness within us, another capability within

us, another 'earth' within us, which is innately built. It is the

'jana'. The " jana " means 'the people, the communication'. You cannot

live alone. You see a man who goes to jail is quite happy, quite

comfortable, no work to do, everything is done for him, he has a 'good

class', lives very well; much better than he would outside - but the

only thing is, he cannot meet other people! He cannot communicate! And

when this capacity of communication, which is part of a person of

human existence is taken away, they feel absolutely frustrated and

unhappy! They don't mind labouring and doing all kinds of menial work,

as long as they are not in the jail that is cut off from communication

with others! So this communication is also an inner urge within us.

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> Christmas Puja

> Ganapatipule, India

> 24 December, 1995

>