Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Jun 23, 2008 Dear all, Jai Shri Mataji! Can everyone please shoebeat the following on a regular basis: Simon Montford Nick Delonas Jagbir Singh Al the above have websites that come up highly in the search engines and are causing seekers to be put off Sahaja Yoga through their lies. Please don't add any names to this list as we want to make it easier for the collective to be involved, and these are the main culprits as far as the search engines are concerned. Please ask your collective to shoebeat these as well, at least for a week. Many thanks on behalf of the Realise the Web team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Dear Jagbir, i am sorry to hear that you are on a 'shoebeating list'. It makes no logical sense to 'shoebeat' someone for telling the truth. WCASY are still not taking responsibility for the momentous Last Judgment and Resurrection Message, in those terms. Neither are they declaring upfront that Shri Mataji is the Adi Shakti. Sahaja Yoga is not a unique method of meditation as they are so fond of saying. Sahaja Yoga is one's Union with the Divine. Maybe, they are just reaping what they have sown and now blaming others for their own failures. It's not as if you haven't 'warned' them at every 'wrong turn', Jagbir. They haven't listened, and now they are upset. warmest regards, violet , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > Jun 23, 2008 > > Dear all, > > Jai Shri Mataji! > > Can everyone please shoebeat the following on a regular basis: > > Simon Montford > Nick Delonas > Jagbir Singh > > Al the above have websites that come up highly in the search engines > and are causing seekers to be put off Sahaja Yoga through their lies. > > Please don't add any names to this list as we want to make it easier > for the collective to be involved, and these are the main culprits > as far as the search engines are concerned. > > Please ask your collective to shoebeat these as well, at least for a > week. > > Many thanks > on behalf of the Realise the Web team. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Dear All, The truth exposes all that is not the truth. WCASY and SYS who follow them, have been less than truthful about the Identity, Advent, and Divine Message of Shri Mataji. So many excuses have been made, to excuse themselves for not openly giving that message to the seekers of the truth. They have now backed themselves into a " Sahaja Yoga is a unique form of meditation " corner. Sahaja Yoga is not a 'unique form of meditation' which is greatly understating what Sahaja Yoga is! Sahaja Yoga is nothing less than the continuance of Shri Jesus's Last Judgment and Resurrection Message! But WCASY have wanted a new religion for their own leadership advantages of power over Sahaja Yogis, rather than to simply tell the truth, just like Shri Mataji has always told the truth! They have made a 'pretty meditation religion' out of the greatest Message of Salvation that has come to the world! That is why their dynamism is not there, because they have not given Her Message in its fullness, upfront. Sahaja Yogis, above all, cannot be mediocre! They have to be dynamic. They have to be courageous. They cannot be mealy-mouthed with the truth. They have to give it in all its splendour and glory, just as Shri Mataji has given it. And they have to be honest with themselves and others! Jagbir has achieved that: http://www.adishakti.org/ And then the seekers of the truth are attracted. But for that, they have to be painfully honest with themselves and others, just like Jagbir has been. They have to face all the issues confronting them today, and not sweep those issues under the rug. They have to stop 'persecuting' fellow Sahaja Yogis, like Jagbir and the children that Shri Mataji in 1994, said " would give evidence to confirm Her incarnation " . Instead, they have prevented Sahaja Yogis from knowing about what Shri Mataji said. That is the only way to salvage their search engines... i.e. " to be truthful about the truth " . The thing is, people can read the truth, between the lines. They can tell that WCASY and Sahaja Yogis who follow them have not been totally honest with them and with Shri Mataji's Identity, Advent, and Divine Message. As i see it, they are reaping the results of their collective deceit, regarding Shri Mataji's Identity, Advent and Divine Message to humanity. It is up to them though, if they wish to continue to blame others for their collective failure, or if they finally wish to face up to their lack of openness and the issues that confront them. i feel for them, and still hope that they can turn the collective ship around, and become very dynamic Sahaja Yogis. But, even if they don't turn that collective ship around, it will be the organisation that suffers - not Sahaja Yoga itself. Sahaja Yoga will continue on, because it is this 'Yuga's Dharma' as Shri Mataji told us. This 'Yuga's Dharma' is above all, the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth! Anything that is not the truth, will go down. So if they want to save the 'organisational ship' they will have to take emergency measures at the very least. Shoebeating Jagbir is not going to achieve that result. That result will only be achieved by painfully facing themselves, at this late stage, when Her Message is now going out from outside Her own organisation, just as She warned Sahaja Yogis at Sydney Airport in the mid-1990's, if they did not give Her Message from within the organisation. Jagbir is doing his part, that he was given to do. If anyone is not sure about that, why not ask Shri Mataji Herself? Why continue to blame Jagbir, when this can be easily resolved? After all, Jagbir has openly said on this forum, that if Shri Mataji personally asks him to shut down his website, he would do so immediately. So why aren't WCASY shutting down Jagbir's website the 'easy way', by just asking Shri Mataji to ask Jagbir to shut it down? Perhaps it is because they know that Shri Mataji has already told them that Jagbir has done nothing wrong, when they previously complained to Shri Mataji about Jagbir. But Shri Mataji's answer to them just does not make the mark. Who can account for their collective spiritual ignorance? I can't! regards to all, violet , " Violet " <violetubb wrote: > > Dear Jagbir, > > i am sorry to hear that you are on a 'shoebeating list'. It makes no logical sense to 'shoebeat' someone for telling the truth. WCASY are still not taking responsibility for the momentous Last Judgment and Resurrection Message, in those terms. Neither are they declaring upfront that Shri Mataji is the Adi Shakti. Sahaja Yoga is not a unique method of meditation as they are so fond of saying. Sahaja Yoga is one's Union with the Divine. Maybe, they are just reaping what they have sown and now blaming others for their own failures. It's not as if you haven't 'warned' them at every 'wrong turn', Jagbir. They haven't listened, and now they are upset. > > warmest regards, > > violet > > > , " jagbir singh " > <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > Jun 23, 2008 > > > > Dear all, > > > > Jai Shri Mataji! > > > > Can everyone please shoebeat the following on a regular basis: > > > > Simon Montford > > Nick Delonas > > Jagbir Singh > > > > Al the above have websites that come up highly in the search engines > > and are causing seekers to be put off Sahaja Yoga through their lies. > > > > Please don't add any names to this list as we want to make it easier > > for the collective to be involved, and these are the main culprits > > as far as the search engines are concerned. > > > > Please ask your collective to shoebeat these as well, at least for a > > week. > > > > Many thanks > > on behalf of the Realise the Web team. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 , " Violet " <violetubb wrote: " Who can account for their collective spiritual ignorance? I can't! " http://adishakti.org/forum/in_june_1994_pramilas_son_SY_harsh_mehra_took_these_f\ axes_to_london_UK_12-22-2006.htm > > Dear All, > > The truth exposes all that is not the truth. WCASY and SYS who follow them, have been less than truthful about the Identity, Advent, and Divine Message of Shri Mataji. So many excuses have been made, to excuse themselves for not openly giving that message to the seekers of the truth. They have now backed themselves into a " Sahaja Yoga is a unique form of meditation " corner. Sahaja Yoga is not a 'unique form of meditation' which is greatly understating what Sahaja Yoga is! Sahaja Yoga is nothing less than the continuance of Shri Jesus's Last Judgment and Resurrection Message! But WCASY have wanted a new religion for their own leadership advantages of power over Sahaja Yogis, rather than to simply tell the truth, just like Shri Mataji has always told the truth! They have made a 'pretty meditation religion' out of the greatest Message of Salvation that has come to the world! That is why their dynamism is not there, because they have not given Her Message in its fullness, upfront. Sahaja Yogis, above all, cannot be mediocre! They have to be dynamic. They have to be courageous. They cannot be mealy-mouthed with the truth. They have to give it in all its splendour and glory, just as Shri Mataji has given it. And they have to be honest with themselves and others! Jagbir has achieved that: > > http://www.adishakti.org/ > > And then the seekers of the truth are attracted. But for that, they have to be painfully honest with themselves and others, just like Jagbir has been. They have to face all the issues confronting them today, and not sweep those issues under the rug. They have to stop 'persecuting' fellow Sahaja Yogis, like Jagbir and the children that Shri Mataji in 1994, said " would give evidence to confirm Her incarnation " . Instead, they have prevented Sahaja Yogis from knowing about what Shri Mataji said. That is the only way to salvage their search engines... i.e. " to be truthful about the truth " . The thing is, people can read the truth, between the lines. They can tell that WCASY and Sahaja Yogis who follow them have not been totally honest with them and with Shri Mataji's Identity, Advent, and Divine Message. > > As i see it, they are reaping the results of their collective deceit, regarding Shri Mataji's Identity, Advent and Divine Message to humanity. It is up to them though, if they wish to continue to blame others for their collective failure, or if they finally wish to face up to their lack of openness and the issues that confront them. i feel for them, and still hope that they can turn the collective ship around, and become very dynamic Sahaja Yogis. But, even if they don't turn that collective ship around, it will be the organisation that suffers - not Sahaja Yoga itself. Sahaja Yoga will continue on, because it is this 'Yuga's Dharma' as Shri Mataji told us. This 'Yuga's Dharma' is above all, the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth! Anything that is not the truth, will go down. > > So if they want to save the 'organisational ship' they will have to take emergency measures at the very least. Shoebeating Jagbir is not going to achieve that result. That result will only be achieved by painfully facing themselves, at this late stage, when Her Message is now going out from outside Her own organisation, just as She warned Sahaja Yogis at Sydney Airport in the mid-1990's, if they did not give Her Message from within the organisation. > > Jagbir is doing his part, that he was given to do. If anyone is not sure about that, why not ask Shri Mataji Herself? Why continue to blame Jagbir, when this can be easily resolved? After all, Jagbir has openly said on this forum, that if Shri Mataji personally asks him to shut down his website, he would do so immediately. So why aren't WCASY shutting down Jagbir's website the 'easy way', by just asking Shri Mataji to ask Jagbir to shut it down? > > Perhaps it is because they know that Shri Mataji has already told them that Jagbir has done nothing wrong, when they previously complained to Shri Mataji about Jagbir. But Shri Mataji's answer to them just does not make the mark. Who can account for their collective spiritual ignorance? I can't! > > regards to all, > > violet > > > , " Violet " <violetubb@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Jagbir, > > > > i am sorry to hear that you are on a 'shoebeating list'. It makes no > logical sense to 'shoebeat' someone for telling the truth. WCASY are > still not taking responsibility for the momentous Last Judgment and > Resurrection Message, in those terms. Neither are they declaring > upfront that Shri Mataji is the Adi Shakti. Sahaja Yoga is not a > unique method of meditation as they are so fond of saying. Sahaja Yoga > is one's Union with the Divine. Maybe, they are just reaping what they > have sown and now blaming others for their own failures. It's not as > if you haven't 'warned' them at every 'wrong turn', Jagbir. They > haven't listened, and now they are upset. > > > > warmest regards, > > > > violet > > > > > > , " jagbir singh " > > <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > > > Jun 23, 2008 > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > Jai Shri Mataji! > > > > > > Can everyone please shoebeat the following on a regular basis: > > > > > > Simon Montford > > > Nick Delonas > > > Jagbir Singh > > > > > > Al the above have websites that come up highly in the search engines > > > and are causing seekers to be put off Sahaja Yoga through their lies. > > > > > > Please don't add any names to this list as we want to make it easier > > > for the collective to be involved, and these are the main culprits > > > as far as the search engines are concerned. > > > > > > Please ask your collective to shoebeat these as well, at least for a > > > week. > > > > > > Many thanks > > > on behalf of the Realise the Web team. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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