Christ, Conditioning, and the Ego - Part 2

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Dear All,

 

We concluded Part 1 with:

 

" So there is another awareness within us, another capability within us, another

'earth' within us, which is innately built. It is the 'jana'. The " jana " means

'the people, the communication'. You cannot live alone. You see a man who goes

to jail is quite happy, quite comfortable, no work to do, everything is done for

him, he has a 'good class', lives very well; much better than he would outside -

but the only thing is, he cannot meet other people! He cannot communicate! And

when this capacity of communication, which is part of a person of human

existence is taken away, they feel absolutely frustrated and unhappy! They don't

mind labouring and doing all kinds of menial work, as long as they are not in

the jail that is cut off from communication with others! So this communication

is also an inner urge within us. "

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

Christmas Puja

Ganapatipule, India

24 December, 1995

 

Here now is Part 2.

 

Enjoy!

 

violet

 

 

 

Christ, Conditioning, and the Ego - Part 2

 

So this communication is also an inner urge within us. In that, people also

sometimes go too far. I mean, of dharmas - they are more bothered about

communication than about [the associated] dharmas, which are very important, so

there is no balance within the person. Then comes the 'sixth awareness' within

us which is a very interesting thing. One was where we take to conditionings.

Say, if I am an Indian, then I am very proud of Indians. I can never see

anything wrong with them, or I may see everything wrong with them. It can go

either way. 'How you have been conditioned' is the one, and this conditioning

comes to us through our 'sixth center' of agnya. And another thing we developed

is when somebody tries to condition us or to control us. We try to get out of

it. Or sometimes we try to dominate it. This dominating capacity is also

innately built within us. Both things are innately built within, whereby we go

on getting ourselves conditioned.

 

For example, I would say that people would get conditioned in a very stupid,

silly, manner. It's impossible to get them out of it. It always comes out of

self-centredness in that a person has 'no value' for understanding. Like, now

somebody comes to your house. He's a vegetarian. Now he stays with you. So: " I'm

a vegetarian, you must get new utensils to cook because I can't have food in the

utensils where the meat is cooked " .

 

[Another example is that] you must let your servant [work] in the proper manner.

So send him to some place where he can get the well water. The servant must be

absolutely drenched. This is typical 'old Indian' style, and he should go and

draw the water from the well, and bring it for drinking and cooking. While the

servant dies from pneumonia, it doesn't matter. All such stupid conditionings we

have! But it's not only that we find all these conditionings in the East; the

West is even worse.

 

For example, they have 'clubbing'. Now, there are clubs where people wear a

particular type of clothes. Now if they wear something else, everybody will

laugh at them. How to use the spoon and fork is very important in the West,

especially the English have this nonsensical conditioning. If somebody uses the

fork and spoon in the wrong way, they're finished: " He is nobody, he's not so

sophisticated " . The ideas of sophistication and all, that comes through a

conditioning of the ages, because maybe they were primitive to begin with. [As

regards] no proper clothes to wear, maybe they would cover themselves with some

leaves or something. I mean " only hundreds of years back " ! So now they have

jumped to the other side. They are very particular about their dress, very

particular about forks and spoons - and they just can't bear something that is

different: " I don't like " . That is very common here. " I don't like " .... I don't

like! " Now, they came to India: " We don't like what we don't like " ! We don't

like the way Indians dress up. " Alright, you dress up the way you like. Let

Indians dress up the way they like. Now why do you think that your dresses of

England will suit here in India, which is such a hot, hot, hot country? "

 

But now this is how we are. It's quite funny the way they are. And this

conditioning goes into such a 'deep' manner, that nobody sees the stupidity

behind it. For example, if the queen has invited you, you must wear a tail coat.

Now, it's very expensive to have a tail coat. Now they have to go to a

particular shop to borrow it. Sometimes they're loose, sometimes they're tight.

i have seen people coming to these parties, Queen's parties, and I could never

recognise them because somebody looked like Charlie Chaplin or somebody looked

like Laurel and Hardy. I couldn't make out who these people were! Then I was

told that it's such and such a person. " Oh, my God! I know him very well! What's

happened to him! " They cannot walk straight. They're like this because of the

clothes which are so tight sometimes, and sometimes are so loose. But you have

to wear them.

 

All these formal ideas come to us as a kind of a part and parcel of you, because

you accept all these conditionings. So it goes to the other side, that we

'abandon' all this. We don't want all this. We are 'anti-culture'.

 

I met one gentleman who was wearing a pant which had lots of holes in it.

Imagine in the cold of London, wearing a pant like that! So I said: " Why do you

want to wear a pant which has holes? " He said: " This is a holy pant " . A 'holy'!

My goodness! It will give you a, it's horrible! " What's wrong? We are

anti-cultured people, so we are taking now to holy pants " . I mean such stupid

people, who are not only uneducated, but are very well educated people. Highly

placed people are so conditioned.

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

Christmas Puja

Ganapatipule, India

24 December, 1995