Guest guest Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Dear allI haven't seen the mail about shoe-beating Jagbir.Shoe beating has never harmed no one,as  You know , on the contrary it helps... I shoe beat my self often..And for me about Jagbir or Violet or any one else, it's harmful to say things against other yogis,wether they are leaders or no !What ever happened it's about time to forgive....and forget.. Lord Christ forgave even on the cross....And as we say in Jewish religion " God Knows His Children "Love SharmilaThe greatest spiritual autority of our century ," Shri Mataji Nirma la Devi" gives you the "realisation",at www.sahajayoga.org or at www.jemedite.be "My blog sharmila108-abergel.bogspot.comDaphe D. , www.myspace.com/daphnedharakiri,Vincent Delbushaye.,www.myspace.com/vincentdelbushayeSamia Smahi , Samia Smahi.net----- Message d'origine ----De : nicole_bougantouche <nicole_bougantoucheÀ : Envoyé le : Mardi, 1 Juillet 2008, 19h28mn 10sObjet : Shoebeating JagbirDear Jagbir, Dear Violet,As i came back from some vacations i had to go through a hundred mails and i stumbled on the one requesting a collective shoebeat on Jagbir.The first thing that came into my mind in that "they" consider shobeat as the ultimate "lethal" weapon.As you know, before shoebeting anyone and anything, one has to shoebeat one's self, and this is THE good news......May Truth prevailwith Lovenicole--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 " But why are there so many thieves, as shown in His life? Only as a contrast were they allowed to get out. Why was this compromise not possible with Christ? Do we also have the same with us today - that we compromise ourselves with thieves, who are negative people and we do not mind Christ being crucified? " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Easter Puja, Formal Talk Ashram, London England 6 April, 1980 , alice abergel <lilysharmila wrote: > > Dear all > > I haven't seen the mail about shoe-beating Jagbir. > Shoe beating has never harmed no one,as You know > > , on the contrary it helps... I shoe beat my self often.. > And for me about Jagbir or Violet or any one else, it's harmful to say things against other yogis, wether they are leaders or no ! > What ever happened it's about time to forgive....and forget.. > Lord Christ forgave even on the cross.... > And as we say in Jewish religion " God Knows His Children " > > Love Sharmila > > The greatest spiritual autority of our century , " Shri Mataji Nirma la Devi " gives you the " realisation " ,at www.sahajayoga.org or at www.jemedite.be " My blog sharmila108-abergel.bogspot.comDaphe D. , www.myspace.com/daphnedharakiri,Vincent Delbushaye.,www.myspace.com/vincentdelbushayeSamia Smahi , Samia Smahi.net > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Dear All, i believe that if memory serves correctly, that Shri Mataji told us that She got the shoebeating technique from Mohammed. i looked up Shri Mataji's talks, expecting to find at least a few references on shoebeating - but surprisingly, found only one official quote. Here it is: " Firstly you become real and very good citizens with moral values which are your foundation. You yourself judge yourself. You are realised souls and I leave it to you to judge yourself. When you lose your vibrations, you become silent. Silence can also be from other agencies [such as] negative forces from the left side of the Agnya giving you ideas. You must have your own ideas! " I can't, I go on thinking " - this nonsense goes on! Just tell yourself: " How dare do I do all this nonsense of my left side?! " Those who are left-sided better go for lemon treatment and shoebeating. Those who are right-sided better shoe-beat themselves 108 times. Get in the centre! " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Formal Talk - Advice Chelsham Rd., England 'Subconscious, Supraconscious and Correct Foundations & Ideals' 24 May, 1981 Shri Mataji was talking about an 'individual silence' due to negative forces here: " When you lose your vibrations, you become silent. Silence can also be from other agencies [such as] negative forces from the left side of the Agnya giving you ideas. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi) But that kind of 'individual silence' due to negative forces - can also become a 'Collective Silence' of negative forces. Where people from a same organisation all decided to think the same negative way. Here are some examples (and their solution): 1. The leaders must be obeyed, even if they tell us things that are not 100% right sometimes! [Obeying or listening to leaders is conditional on you and the leader. If your leader tells you something that is against your Spirit, or against what your Spirit knows to be right - then you naturally cannot obey him. If you do obey him you are spiritually foolish and in jeopardy of your Salvation.] 2. They say that Sahaja Yoga is a unique form of meditation - so that's what it is! [When a person is totally honest with themselves and with others - then they have to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth! It can't be compartmentalized, which changes it so that it is not even recognized for what it was originally. That's what's happened when Shri Mataji's saying of: " Sahaja Yoga is your Spontaneous Union with the Divine " has been changed into: " Sahaja Yoga is a unique method of meditation " . It's not even technically correct - because the horse always comes before the cart. And in Sahaja Yoga, the 'horse' of Kundalini Awakening/Spontaneous Union with the Divine always comes before the 'cart' of thoughtless Awareness/Sahaja meditation.] 3. They say that all we have to do is give self-realisation - so that's all we have to do! [Then everyone's fooling themselves! It's clear that Shri Mataji said to do much more.] 4. They say we should shoebeat Jagbir because he is doing better in the internet ratings - so that's what we'll do! [People shouldn't shoebeat a Sahaja Yogi for doing well on the internet in promoting Shri Mataji's Identity, Mission and Message. Instead they should start promoting Shri Mataji in the same way. Then they may do as well also!] WCASY's will is not Shri Mataji's Will. The two are different. Lets face the facts! regards to all, violet , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > " But why are there so many thieves, as shown in His life? Only as a > contrast were they allowed to get out. Why was this compromise not > possible with Christ? Do we also have the same with us today - that > we compromise ourselves with thieves, who are negative people and we > do not mind Christ being crucified? " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > Easter Puja, Formal Talk > Ashram, London England > 6 April, 1980 > > > , alice abergel > <lilysharmila@> wrote: > > > > Dear all > > > > I haven't seen the mail about shoe-beating Jagbir. > > Shoe beating has never harmed no one,as You know > > > > , on the contrary it helps... I shoe beat my self often.. > > And for me about Jagbir or Violet or any one else, it's harmful to > say things against other yogis, wether they are leaders or no ! > > What ever happened it's about time to forgive....and forget.. > > Lord Christ forgave even on the cross.... > > And as we say in Jewish religion " God Knows His Children " > > > > Love Sharmila > > > > The greatest spiritual autority of our century , " Shri Mataji > Nirma la Devi " gives you the " realisation " ,at www.sahajayoga.org or > at www.jemedite.be " My blog sharmila108-abergel.bogspot.comDaphe > D. , www.myspace.com/daphnedharakiri,Vincent > Delbushaye.,www.myspace.com/vincentdelbushayeSamia Smahi , Samia > Smahi.net > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Dear Sahaja Yogis, Since Jagbir said that if Shri Mataji asked him Herself to quit writing the http://www.adishakti.org/ he would quit - why are Sahaja Yogis wasting their time shoebeating Jagbir, instead of asking Shri Mataji to make Jagbir quit the site, in which case we'll all be gone! with warm regards, violet , " Violet " <violetubb wrote: > > Dear All, > > i believe that if memory serves correctly, that Shri Mataji told us that She got the shoebeating technique from Mohammed. i looked up Shri Mataji's talks, expecting to find at least a few references on shoebeating - but surprisingly, found only one official quote. Here it is: > > " Firstly you become real and very good citizens with moral values which are your foundation. You yourself judge yourself. You are realised souls and I leave it to you to judge yourself. When you lose your vibrations, you become silent. Silence can also be from other agencies [such as] negative forces from the left side of the Agnya giving you ideas. You must have your own ideas! " I can't, I go on thinking " - this nonsense goes on! Just tell yourself: " How dare do I do all this nonsense of my left side?! " Those who are left-sided better go for lemon treatment and shoebeating. Those who are right-sided better shoe-beat themselves 108 times. Get in the centre! " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > Formal Talk - Advice > Chelsham Rd., England > 'Subconscious, Supraconscious and Correct Foundations & Ideals' > 24 May, 1981 > > Shri Mataji was talking about an 'individual silence' due to negative forces here: > > " When you lose your vibrations, you become silent. Silence can also be from other agencies [such as] negative forces from the left side of the Agnya giving you ideas. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi) > > But that kind of 'individual silence' due to negative forces - can also become a 'Collective Silence' of negative forces. Where people from a same organisation all decided to think the same negative way. Here are some examples (and their solution): > > 1. The leaders must be obeyed, even if they tell us things that are not 100% right sometimes! > > [Obeying or listening to leaders is conditional on you and the leader. If your leader tells you something that is against your Spirit, or against what your Spirit knows to be right - then you naturally cannot obey him. If you do obey him you are spiritually foolish and in jeopardy of your Salvation.] > > > 2. They say that Sahaja Yoga is a unique form of meditation - so that's what it is! > > [When a person is totally honest with themselves and with others - then they have to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth! It can't be compartmentalized, which changes it so that it is not even recognized for what it was originally. That's what's happened when Shri Mataji's saying of: " Sahaja Yoga is your Spontaneous Union with the Divine " has been changed into: " Sahaja Yoga is a unique method of meditation " . It's not even technically correct - because the horse always comes before the cart. And in Sahaja Yoga, the 'horse' of Kundalini Awakening/Spontaneous Union with the Divine always comes before the 'cart' of thoughtless Awareness/Sahaja meditation.] > > > 3. They say that all we have to do is give self-realisation - so that's all we have to do! > > [Then everyone's fooling themselves! It's clear that Shri Mataji said to do much more.] > > > 4. They say we should shoebeat Jagbir because he is doing better in the internet ratings - so that's what we'll do! > > [People shouldn't shoebeat a Sahaja Yogi for doing well on the internet in promoting Shri Mataji's Identity, Mission and Message. Instead they should start promoting Shri Mataji in the same way. Then they may do as well also!] > > WCASY's will is not Shri Mataji's Will. The two are different. Lets face the facts! > > regards to all, > > violet > > > > , " jagbir singh " > <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > " But why are there so many thieves, as shown in His life? Only as a > > contrast were they allowed to get out. Why was this compromise not > > possible with Christ? Do we also have the same with us today - that > > we compromise ourselves with thieves, who are negative people and we > > do not mind Christ being crucified? " > > > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > Easter Puja, Formal Talk > > Ashram, London England > > 6 April, 1980 > > > > > > , alice abergel > > <lilysharmila@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear all > > > > > > I haven't seen the mail about shoe-beating Jagbir. > > > Shoe beating has never harmed no one,as You know > > > > > > , on the contrary it helps... I shoe beat my self often.. > > > And for me about Jagbir or Violet or any one else, it's harmful to > > say things against other yogis, wether they are leaders or no ! > > > What ever happened it's about time to forgive....and forget.. > > > Lord Christ forgave even on the cross.... > > > And as we say in Jewish religion " God Knows His Children " > > > > > > Love Sharmila > > > > > > The greatest spiritual autority of our century , " Shri Mataji > > Nirma la Devi " gives you the " realisation " ,at www.sahajayoga.org or > > at www.jemedite.be " My blog sharmila108-abergel.bogspot.comDaphe > > D. , www.myspace.com/daphnedharakiri,Vincent > > Delbushaye.,www.myspace.com/vincentdelbushayeSamia Smahi , Samia > > Smahi.net > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Dear Sahaja Yogis, Or even better, why not get Sir C.P. to ask Shri Mataji to invite Jagbir to see Her, and officially ask Jagbir to quit the http://www.adishakti.org/ ? That is a very simple suggestion i give to WCASY which as the Will of Shri Mataji, they should be able to arrange. i mean an audience with Shri Mataji Herself! And if Shri Mataji asks Jagbir to quit, he will! But if WCASY can't do this one simple thing, then stop your anti-God activities! Stop asking Sahaja Yogis to shoebeat Jagbir! Because i think we all agree that Shri Mataji has given the Ultimate Truth - or don't we, WCASY???!!! violet , " Violet " <violetubb wrote: > > Dear Sahaja Yogis, > > Since Jagbir said that if Shri Mataji asked him Herself to quit writing the http://www.adishakti.org/ he would quit - why are Sahaja Yogis wasting their time shoebeating Jagbir, instead of asking Shri Mataji to make Jagbir quit the site, in which case we'll all be gone! > > with warm regards, > > violet > > > , " Violet " <violetubb@> > wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > i believe that if memory serves correctly, that Shri Mataji told us > that She got the shoebeating technique from Mohammed. i looked up Shri > Mataji's talks, expecting to find at least a few references on > shoebeating - but surprisingly, found only one official quote. Here it is: > > > > " Firstly you become real and very good citizens with moral values > which are your foundation. You yourself judge yourself. You are > realised souls and I leave it to you to judge yourself. When you lose > your vibrations, you become silent. Silence can also be from other > agencies [such as] negative forces from the left side of the Agnya > giving you ideas. You must have your own ideas! " I can't, I go on > thinking " - this nonsense goes on! Just tell yourself: " How dare do I > do all this nonsense of my left side?! " Those who are left-sided > better go for lemon treatment and shoebeating. Those who are > right-sided better shoe-beat themselves 108 times. Get in the centre! " > > > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > Formal Talk - Advice > > Chelsham Rd., England > > 'Subconscious, Supraconscious and Correct Foundations & Ideals' > > 24 May, 1981 > > > > Shri Mataji was talking about an 'individual silence' due to > negative forces here: > > > > " When you lose your vibrations, you become silent. Silence can also > be from other agencies [such as] negative forces from the left side of > the Agnya giving you ideas. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi) > > > > But that kind of 'individual silence' due to negative forces - can > also become a 'Collective Silence' of negative forces. Where people > from a same organisation all decided to think the same negative way. > Here are some examples (and their solution): > > > > 1. The leaders must be obeyed, even if they tell us things that are > not 100% right sometimes! > > > > [Obeying or listening to leaders is conditional on you and the > leader. If your leader tells you something that is against your > Spirit, or against what your Spirit knows to be right - then you > naturally cannot obey him. If you do obey him you are spiritually > foolish and in jeopardy of your Salvation.] > > > > > > 2. They say that Sahaja Yoga is a unique form of meditation - so > that's what it is! > > > > [When a person is totally honest with themselves and with others - > then they have to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the > truth! It can't be compartmentalized, which changes it so that it is > not even recognized for what it was originally. That's what's happened > when Shri Mataji's saying of: " Sahaja Yoga is your Spontaneous Union > with the Divine " has been changed into: " Sahaja Yoga is a unique > method of meditation " . It's not even technically correct - because the > horse always comes before the cart. And in Sahaja Yoga, the 'horse' of > Kundalini Awakening/Spontaneous Union with the Divine always comes > before the 'cart' of thoughtless Awareness/Sahaja meditation.] > > > > > > 3. They say that all we have to do is give self-realisation - so > that's all we have to do! > > > > [Then everyone's fooling themselves! It's clear that Shri Mataji > said to do much more.] > > > > > > 4. They say we should shoebeat Jagbir because he is doing better in > the internet ratings - so that's what we'll do! > > > > [People shouldn't shoebeat a Sahaja Yogi for doing well on the > internet in promoting Shri Mataji's Identity, Mission and Message. > Instead they should start promoting Shri Mataji in the same way. Then > they may do as well also!] > > > > WCASY's will is not Shri Mataji's Will. The two are different. Lets > face the facts! > > > > regards to all, > > > > violet > > > > > > > > , " jagbir singh " > > <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > > > " But why are there so many thieves, as shown in His life? Only as a > > > contrast were they allowed to get out. Why was this compromise not > > > possible with Christ? Do we also have the same with us today - that > > > we compromise ourselves with thieves, who are negative people and we > > > do not mind Christ being crucified? " > > > > > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > > Easter Puja, Formal Talk > > > Ashram, London England > > > 6 April, 1980 > > > > > > > > > , alice abergel > > > <lilysharmila@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear all > > > > > > > > I haven't seen the mail about shoe-beating Jagbir. > > > > Shoe beating has never harmed no one,as You know > > > > > > > > , on the contrary it helps... I shoe beat my self often.. > > > > And for me about Jagbir or Violet or any one else, it's harmful to > > > say things against other yogis, wether they are leaders or no ! > > > > What ever happened it's about time to forgive....and forget.. > > > > Lord Christ forgave even on the cross.... > > > > And as we say in Jewish religion " God Knows His Children " > > > > > > > > Love Sharmila > > > > > > > > The greatest spiritual autority of our century , " Shri Mataji > > > Nirma la Devi " gives you the " realisation " ,at www.sahajayoga.org or > > > at www.jemedite.be " My blog sharmila108-abergel.bogspot.comDaphe > > > D. , www.myspace.com/daphnedharakiri,Vincent > > > Delbushaye.,www.myspace.com/vincentdelbushayeSamia Smahi , Samia > > > Smahi.net > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Dear WCASY and All, Your No.1 Enemy is really Jagbir and your list should really have gone like this: 1. Jagbir Singh 2. Simon de Montford 3. Nick Delonas i mean, you should give credit due, where it's due. Simon has already 'defeated' you with lies against Shri Mataji? How is that possible? But Jagbir will defeat you just by telling the simple truth, as he always has done: " The Truth which is absolute has to express itself in these Modern Times. And even if it is not accepted it will never die. On the contrary, if it is not accepted, it will expose all falsehood and destroy it! " So the only recourse is to do a turnaround, and tell the truth in full like Shri Mataji told it. Or has the horse bolted from the starting line, and is it too late for you now? That doesn't matter. It is better to lose your leadership position and admit the truth. It is better to gain your soul and lose your earthly kingdom than to try and keep your earthly kingdom and lose your soul in the process. with love, violet , " Violet " <violetubb wrote: > > Dear Sahaja Yogis, > > Or even better, why not get Sir C.P. to ask Shri Mataji to invite > Jagbir to see Her, and officially ask Jagbir to quit the http://www.adishakti.org/ ? That is a very simple suggestion i give to WCASY which as the Will of Shri Mataji, they should be able to arrange. i mean an audience with Shri Mataji Herself! And if Shri Mataji asks Jagbir to quit, he will! But if WCASY can't do this one simple thing, then stop your anti-God activities! Stop asking Sahaja Yogis to shoebeat Jagbir! Because i think we all agree that Shri Mataji has given the Ultimate Truth - or don't we, WCASY???!!! > > violet > > > , " Violet " <violetubb@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sahaja Yogis, > > > > Since Jagbir said that if Shri Mataji asked him Herself to quit > writing the http://www.adishakti.org/ he would quit - why are Sahaja > Yogis wasting their time shoebeating Jagbir, instead of asking Shri > Mataji to make Jagbir quit the site, in which case we'll all be gone! > > > > with warm regards, > > > > violet > > > > > > , " Violet " <violetubb@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > i believe that if memory serves correctly, that Shri Mataji told us > > that She got the shoebeating technique from Mohammed. i looked up Shri > > Mataji's talks, expecting to find at least a few references on > > shoebeating - but surprisingly, found only one official quote. Here > it is: > > > > > > " Firstly you become real and very good citizens with moral values > > which are your foundation. You yourself judge yourself. You are > > realised souls and I leave it to you to judge yourself. When you lose > > your vibrations, you become silent. Silence can also be from other > > agencies [such as] negative forces from the left side of the Agnya > > giving you ideas. You must have your own ideas! " I can't, I go on > > thinking " - this nonsense goes on! Just tell yourself: " How dare do I > > do all this nonsense of my left side?! " Those who are left-sided > > better go for lemon treatment and shoebeating. Those who are > > right-sided better shoe-beat themselves 108 times. Get in the centre! " > > > > > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > > Formal Talk - Advice > > > Chelsham Rd., England > > > 'Subconscious, Supraconscious and Correct Foundations & Ideals' > > > 24 May, 1981 > > > > > > Shri Mataji was talking about an 'individual silence' due to > > negative forces here: > > > > > > " When you lose your vibrations, you become silent. Silence can also > > be from other agencies [such as] negative forces from the left side of > > the Agnya giving you ideas. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi) > > > > > > But that kind of 'individual silence' due to negative forces - can > > also become a 'Collective Silence' of negative forces. Where people > > from a same organisation all decided to think the same negative way. > > Here are some examples (and their solution): > > > > > > 1. The leaders must be obeyed, even if they tell us things that are > > not 100% right sometimes! > > > > > > [Obeying or listening to leaders is conditional on you and the > > leader. If your leader tells you something that is against your > > Spirit, or against what your Spirit knows to be right - then you > > naturally cannot obey him. If you do obey him you are spiritually > > foolish and in jeopardy of your Salvation.] > > > > > > > > > 2. They say that Sahaja Yoga is a unique form of meditation - so > > that's what it is! > > > > > > [When a person is totally honest with themselves and with others - > > then they have to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the > > truth! It can't be compartmentalized, which changes it so that it is > > not even recognized for what it was originally. That's what's happened > > when Shri Mataji's saying of: " Sahaja Yoga is your Spontaneous Union > > with the Divine " has been changed into: " Sahaja Yoga is a unique > > method of meditation " . It's not even technically correct - because the > > horse always comes before the cart. And in Sahaja Yoga, the 'horse' of > > Kundalini Awakening/Spontaneous Union with the Divine always comes > > before the 'cart' of thoughtless Awareness/Sahaja meditation.] > > > > > > > > > 3. They say that all we have to do is give self-realisation - so > > that's all we have to do! > > > > > > [Then everyone's fooling themselves! It's clear that Shri Mataji > > said to do much more.] > > > > > > > > > 4. They say we should shoebeat Jagbir because he is doing better in > > the internet ratings - so that's what we'll do! > > > > > > [People shouldn't shoebeat a Sahaja Yogi for doing well on the > > internet in promoting Shri Mataji's Identity, Mission and Message. > > Instead they should start promoting Shri Mataji in the same way. Then > > they may do as well also!] > > > > > > WCASY's will is not Shri Mataji's Will. The two are different. Lets > > face the facts! > > > > > > regards to all, > > > > > > violet > > > > > > > > > > > > , " jagbir singh " > > > <adishakti_org@> wrote: > > > > > > > > " But why are there so many thieves, as shown in His life? Only as a > > > > contrast were they allowed to get out. Why was this compromise not > > > > possible with Christ? Do we also have the same with us today - that > > > > we compromise ourselves with thieves, who are negative people and we > > > > do not mind Christ being crucified? " > > > > > > > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > > > Easter Puja, Formal Talk > > > > Ashram, London England > > > > 6 April, 1980 > > > > > > > > > > > > , alice abergel > > > > <lilysharmila@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear all > > > > > > > > > > I haven't seen the mail about shoe-beating Jagbir. > > > > > Shoe beating has never harmed no one,as You know > > > > > > > > > > , on the contrary it helps... I shoe beat my self often.. > > > > > And for me about Jagbir or Violet or any one else, it's harmful to > > > > say things against other yogis, wether they are leaders or no ! > > > > > What ever happened it's about time to forgive....and forget.. > > > > > Lord Christ forgave even on the cross.... > > > > > And as we say in Jewish religion " God Knows His Children " > > > > > > > > > > Love Sharmila > > > > > > > > > > The greatest spiritual autority of our century , " Shri Mataji > > > > Nirma la Devi " gives you the " realisation " ,at www.sahajayoga.org or > > > > at www.jemedite.be " My blog sharmila108-abergel.bogspot.comDaphe > > > > D. , www.myspace.com/daphnedharakiri,Vincent > > > > Delbushaye.,www.myspace.com/vincentdelbushayeSamia Smahi , Samia > > > > Smahi.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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