Guest guest Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 " Jesus, on the other hand, manifests the infinite God in historic time and place and in his historic death, dying on the cross. There are many ancient myths of the god who dies and rises again but these are symbolic figures and their meaning is deep but different. Jesus' death, on the other hand, is not simply symbolic. He was an historic person, and the descriptions we have of his suffering and death, in the four different accounts in the Gospels, are given in minute detail. On that historic death and on the resurrection the whole Christian faith centres. The experience of the disciples after the death of Jesus, that the body was not to be found in the tomb and Jesus' appearances to them, convinced them that he was risen from the dead. They understood that, unlike Lazarus who was raised from the dead but simply carried on with his limited life in this world, Jesus was alive for evermore, transcending this world. What this means is that in the death and resurrection of Jesus the matter of this world was transformed. In other doctrines, in other great faiths, matter is often conceived simply as an appearance and the appearance disappears when we have reached the one reality. But in the Christian understanding the matter of the universe is transformed. The atoms, the molecules, the cells of Jesus' body, which are part of this cosmic energy, were changed. Matter is a temporary condensation of energy and that structure of energy which made up the body of Jesus on the cross was transformed into a new structure. It maybe suggested that in the resurrection that structure of energy became a psychic body, which is a more subtle body. His body was first of all what is called a gross body which anyone could recognise, and then it became a subtle body, which could not always be recognised. This subtle body could appear and disappear, as we know from the Gospel narratives. Finally he becomes a spiritual body at the Ascension. He transcends matter at both the gross and the subtle levels and enters the spiritual level and, with that transformation, the matter of this universe is taken up into the Godhead. That is the Christian mystery. It is amazing when we begin to grasp it, that the matter which exploded in the so-called Big Bang fifteen or even twenty billion years ago at that point was finally transfigured. In fact the transfiguration has been going on all through history and we ourselves are involved in this transformation of matter, as consciousness is working on matter. The Christian understanding is that in Jesus consciousness finally took possession of matter, and this means that matter was spiritualized. In him the matter of the universe was, in other words, made totally conscious and became one with God, in the Godhead. A New Vision of Reality (Western Science, Eastern Mysticism and Christian Faith), Pg.167-168 Bede Griffiths Templegate Publishers - Springfield, Illinois ISBN 0-87243-180-0 “The doctrine of bodily resurrection, linked closely to the soul's nature and destiny, suffers like a fate. The ancients knew little or nothing about the human organism — its chemical constituents, its functioning parts, its psychology — and even less about the nature of death. Modern man has measured corruption, can detail the chemical changes that take place when bodily life ceases, has a clear idea of what precisely corruption and decay of the human frame connote, and defines human death precisely by the cessation of the observable functions of the body. The three religions define death as the moment when the soul leaves the body. On the other hand, the scientist cannot accept the " outside " explanation: that a god will " resurrect " the corrupted body. He knows that in a living body today the actual molecules which compose it were not part of it some time ago. In another decade it will be made up of molecules which at present are elsewhere: in African lions, in passion-flowers of the Amazon, in Maine lobsters, in earth in Patagonia, and in the fur of a Polar bear. For the scientist, the body as such has truly ceased to exist. No " shade " or reduced form of the body exists in an " underworld " or in Elysian fields. The body has ceased to exist. He therefore finds the resurrection of the body unintelligible.” Malachi Martin, The Encounter, Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 1970, page 286 " I am happy to know so many of you have come here and I feel this is a very important Puja, not only for Australia but for the whole world, because it has the greatest Message which we have actualized now in Sahaja Yoga. We have to understand the Message of Christ. There are many people in this world who try to show off that they are very great rationalists and they have a right to pass any remark they like about Christ. I was reading the newspapers today. I was surprised where they are all saying one by one that, " I reject this part of Christ that He was born with Immaculate Conception. I reject that He was resurrected. I reject this and I reject that. " Who are you? Because you can write, because you have a flair, how can you say such things? Just without finding out, you are a scholar, maybe you are very well read, maybe that you think you are capable of saying whatever you like about any subject, but subject of spirituality cannot be dealt by people who are not even Self- Realized. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Resurrection; Helping Each Other, Easter Puja Talk Sydney, Australia, April 3, 1994 " There are lots of myths in the Bible and one of them is that at the Time of Resurrection your bodies will come out of the graves. This is not only for Christians, but also for the Muslims and Jews. Think of this - What remains in the grave after many years? Only a few bones. And if these bones came out how can you give them Realization? Think of it. It is a big myth. Not possible logically. In Nal Damyanti Akhyan they have clearly given that when the Kalyug will come, all these seekers who are seeking in the hills and mountains will be born again, and they will be given their Self- Realization! Their Kundalinis will be awakened and that is logical, because that is what we are doing today. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi India - December 25, 1993 " In those days of complete chaos and anarchy, He (Jesus Christ) stood up and talked about Truth and about such things like Spirit, like ascent. I mean, they were all blind people. They didn't know what it was He was talking. And He talked about it. There's lot of myths that exist in the Bible and one of them is that when the Resurrection Time will come, your bodies will come out of your graves. It is not only with Christianity, but also with the Muslims and also for the Jews. Now think of it, after so many years, what remains in the graves? Few bones and these few bones, if they come out, how can you give them Realization? Think of it. It's a big myth. One should understand. Logically, it's not proper. So, what is the thing? " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Children, Money And Responsibility, Christmas Puja, India — Dec. 25, 1993 " That’s what it is today. I do not know that what it is to that we are now in the Blossom Time, as I call it, because many flowers are born and they are to become the fruits. This is the Resurrection Time, which is described in all the scriptures, but it’s not like this, the way they had described us. Something wrong with them that all the dead bodies who are in the graves will come out of the graves. I mean, how much is left out of them, God knows. Must be some bones or maybe some skulls there. So they’ll come out of the graves and they will get their Resurrection. This is a very wrong idea. Once I happened to mean a fellow, a Muslim from Bosnia and he told Me, " I want to die for my religion, for God’s sake. " I said, " But why? Who told you to die? " He said, " Now, if I die in the name of God, I’ll be resurrected. " I said, " It’s all wrong. That’s not the way it is going to work out. Resurrection is going to work out this way that at this time, all these souls will take their birth. All these souls will take their birth and they will be resurrected as human beings they’ll have to come. " That’s why we find all kinds of funny people these days, all kinds of cruel, criminal, all kinds of idiotic, stupid, I mean very queer, weird, funny ideas which find such, such a variety of people and such a tremendous population that we should understand they have to have their chance of Resurrection. But how many will come? That’s the point. How many are going to come? " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Philadelphia, USA — October 15, 1993 " The Message of His life is not the Cross but the Resurrection. He was resurrected. That was one of the things He did so that now you can be resurrected. Every Incarnation is something unique. But the end of it was the Resurrection. He did it because He had to die. Otherwise how can you resurrect yourself? There are lots of things which look difficult but which are not. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Christmas Puja, India - December 25, 1993 " It is very hard to believe that we can become the Spirit. This is one of the big myths of Modern Times and many a times when I speak about becoming the Spirit people say that, " How can you say like that? " How can it be that easy? " But it is a living process of our evolution and if it is done by the Power of a living God, then it has to be very simple, has to be very easy... Today that Time has come. That Time has come. The Time of Judgment has come and at this Time we have to see that we'll be judging ourselves; but not by some sort of an authority, but by something which is within us which we call as the Kundalini, is placed in the triangular bone called as sacrum. Just see, Greeks knew about it. That's why they call the bone as sacrum. But what is this bone in the biblical understanding - it is the reflection of the Holy Ghost. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi The Knowledge Of The Roots, Cardiff, U.K. — August 8, 1984 " So one has to understand that evolutionary process is absolutely free, without any effort and you can't pay for your evolution. It is spontaneous. Like you have this Mother Earth and you put the seed in it, then it sprouts by itself. What do you do? Nothing. It is spontaneous and that's what exactly happens to you, that spontaneously you achieve that state of the Spirit.... So science cannot answer many questions and one of them is that why are we on this Earth? What is the purpose of our life? What is the goal of our life? What is our identity? This question is not asked and, if asked, they cannot answer. They cannot answer this simple question, " Why are we on this Earth? " But one has to know that we are on this Earth to become the Spirit, to enter into the Kingdom of God. This is our purpose. That's why we are here and then to be the instruments of that Divine Power, which is All-Pervading. 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