What Shri Mataji said to yogis at Chelsham Rd. in 1980 - Part 1

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What Shri Mataji told yogis at Chelsham Rd in 1980 - Part 1

 

If your attention is on money while I am talking about the highest things - then

you'll be thinking about money. If your attention is on something else, while I

am talking of something - then you'll be talking about something else. That's

why our presence should be such that nobody's attention is diverted or deluded.

Do you understand my point that " if your presence is funny like a joker, or a

clown, or if you have a funny, untidy appearance " , everybody's attention will be

disturbed? If you are overly dressed the attention will also be disturbed! But

if you are completely 'present', wherever you are, then people will feel that

" here's somebody great " and the respect will flow, which is something so

remarkable. It's so remarkable, that you never know how people will help you -

and how things will work out.

 

People can make it out if your attention is dominated by matter. And that's one

thing that has to be looked after very clearly. Because in these countries who

have advanced so much materially, what happens is that every matter attracts

your attention. You go on the street - 'there's' this one, 'that' woman is

standing, or 'there's' something happening. All the time the attention..... you

see, it's their job to attract your attention! Otherwise, how are they going to

exploit you? See..... they have no justification! So they produce things and

advertise things in such a way, so as to distract your attention. Now, this is a

force which is acting against our attention! So as far as possible, keep your

attention straight ahead, or on the Mother Earth.

 

If you can control your attention, you can overcome your material domination.

The best thing is to put your attention to your Spirit. If you start putting

your attention to the Spirit, the sweetness of the Spirit itself, will make the

whole thing very sweet and beautiful. The attention should be in the Spirit,

even when you are getting ready. Keep the attention on the Spirit. Now, it's not

difficult, because Kundalini has reached that stage. If I had said this before

realisation, then you would have said: " Mother how do I do it? " But now, when

you have got your realisation, try to bring your attention to the Spirit! It

means that firstly, when you get your realisation, you see the Spirit in the

sense that the spirit starts flowing through you. You start watching its

flowing. You see this thing. But then, after some time, you must enter into

spirit, and see the whole thing through the window of the Spirit, by developing

your Spirit Witness. If you develop your witness state, from the attention, you

become knowledge, the truth. Then material things become the knowledge. The

aesthetics of matter start giving you joy. You do not want to possess it, but

they start giving you joy. And even if you want to possess it, it would be just

to enjoy it and give it away to somebody else; it's like that! It's for your

enjoyment and you want to give it away to someone. When you develop your

'witness' state, this will come to you, that you will not keep things for

yourself, but you would like to give and share. You should know that when you

are 'sharing', that is the time you have become a 'witness', because you are

'enjoying'. Witness state is the state of Shri Krishna, of Virat. When you start

sharing your things, then it is a proper thing.

 

Now the essence of 'Puja' is also how to overcome our material grossness. 'Puja'

is nothing but 'how to overcome our material grossness'. When we want to have a

matter to ourselves, you must know that it is given to us by God. Everything

belongs to God. Supposing we give a flower to God - after all, it is God's own

creation that we are giving! You show the light to God, or do Aarti to God. What

[is it]? It is all God's Light only. What do we do? By showing the light to God,

we worship the light within us. The light elements get enlightened within us.

The light element is here on the Agnya. When you do Aarti, when you put light

before God, when you show light to God - the light element within you, gets

enlightened. When you give flowers, Mooladhara gets enlightened. When you give

honey, your attention gets enlightened. So why do we give it to God? After all,

God doesn't need anything! But God is 'the Enjoyer'! You are not the Enjoyer!

You cannot enjoy. 'Enjoy' is God in you, when God is there, that enjoys. That is

the Spirit! So whatever pleases your Spirit, is used in the Puja, to be given.

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

Extract from Formal Talk

Chelsham Road

London, England

27 September, 1980