What Shri Mataji said to yogis at Chelsham Rd. in 1980 - Part 2

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Dear All,

 

Part 1 concluded with:

 

" Now the essence of 'Puja' is also how to overcome our material grossness.

'Puja' is nothing but 'how to overcome our material grossness'. When we want to

have a matter to ourselves, you must know that it is given to us by God.

Everything belongs to God. Supposing we give a flower to God - after all, it is

God's own creation that we are giving! You show the light to God, or do Aarti to

God. What [is it]? It is all God's Light only. What do we do? By showing the

light to God, we worship the light within us. The light elements get enlightened

within us. The light element is here on the Agnya. When you do Aarti, when you

put light before God, when you show light to God - the light element within you,

gets enlightened. When you give flowers, Mooladhara gets enlightened. When you

give honey, your attention gets enlightened. So why do we give it to God? After

all, God doesn't need anything! But God is 'the Enjoyer'! You are not the

Enjoyer! You cannot enjoy. 'Enjoy' is God in you, when God is there, that

enjoys. That is the Spirit! So whatever pleases your Spirit, is used in the

Puja, to be given.

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

Extract from Formal Talk

Chelsham Road

London, England

27 September, 1980

 

Here now is Part 2.

 

Enjoy!

 

violet

 

 

What Shri Mataji said to yogis at Chelsham Rd. in 1980 - Part 2

 

Now you give rice. All these things have been discovered that you give rice to

the Devi, that rice should be put in her lap. What is a little rice to a Devi?

It's that by putting rice in you, you have the satisfaction of getting food that

is satisfying, that is enlightened. But that doesn't mean you start showering

things on me. That doesn't mean that. What I'm trying to say is that it's with

dignity and understanding, that you give me rice. Now people don't understand

that 'rice-giving' is to be given to God. After all, why give him [Christ] palm

leaves? What was he going to do with palm leaves? What was the use of putting

palm leaves before him, or to give him an oil bath, or to rub his feet with oil?

It is for you to get the advantage! Now, in Sahaja Yoga, it is proved now that

when you rub my feet, you feel better - not me. You rub my hands and you feel

better. When you fall at my feet you feel better, see?

 

She is a great [reflexologist]. " What were you doing? " " Reflexology. "

'Reflexology' is a big name, and she's supposed to know about feet and things

like that. One day she said: " Mother, I want to come and massage your feet. I

know this and all that " . So I said: " Alright, come along! " So she came to rub my

feet. Instead of myself becoming relaxed, the more she rubbed, the more relaxed

she became. So you see, when you do things for God [referring to God Almighty],

the blessings come to you. You are blessed! [break Quote]

 

[When Shri Mataji is saying: " So you see, when you do things for God, the

blessings come to you " ........it needs to be understood that Shri Mataji is not

making a " claimship " of being " God Almighty " as some Sahaja Yogis have

misunderstood it. To clarify, it can be compared to ourselves doing something

good for others, but saying we are " doing it for God " . We are not saying though,

that the others " are God " . So spiritual discretion is needed, not to get the

wrong idea, of what Shri Mataji is saying here. By pleasing Shri Mataji, the

reflexologist was also " pleasing God " in the same way that by ourselves helping

others, in the right Spirit, we are also " pleasing God " .]

 

[Resume Quote]:

 

Whatever is a problem 'with you', you give to God to solve. You also give to God

what satisfies you, and the satisfaction comes to you! Now, when you give these

flowers to me, they give you two things. Flowers are very important for your

Swadisthan and for your Mooladhara. If the flowers are beautiful, then they give

to your Swadisthan [whose fundamental quality is that of creativity]:

 

http://www.adishakti.org/subtle_system/swadhisthan_chakra.htm

 

If they are fragrant, they cure your Mooladhara:

 

http://www.adishakti.org/subtle_system/mooladhara_chakra.htm

 

Now, there's no end to flowers also! But think what you are doing for your

chakras. Then there are other things that are used - like 'ghee'. Shri Krishna

is very fond of ghee and butter, so when you rub my feet with 'say' butter, your

Vishuddhi will improve:

 

http://www.adishakti.org/subtle_system/vishuddhi_chakra.htm

 

You know that it's not mine [i.e. Shri Mataji's Vishuddhi that improves]. I have

no problems. I only have one problem - that you are within Me and when you have

problems I have problems, because these vibrations [that Shri Mataji has] have

to go to you. So i prepare vibrations here as an antidote - and they have to

flow! It's a very subtle thing to understand - to move from 'the gross' to 'the

Spirit'! This is the thing by which you move [ascend], because first, you

enlighten your chakras. By enlightening your chakras, your Deities [within]

become happy, 'prasanna'. By making the Deities happy, you get a passage for

your Kundalini to pass through. By making the passage for the Kundalini, it goes

up, and then your attention starts becoming 'One' with the Spirit. It is step by

step that you move from matter to subtler matter... from subtler matter to your

chakras... from chakras to Deities... from Deities to the Spirit. Then the

'state' enjoys itself. So there, you do not have to do anything. Just give your

spirit to Spirit. That's why these things were described.

 

Now, people could not see this linkage. They thought that " why should we give

anything to God. After all, it is all his own! " The argument started: " Why

should we put lights, there is no need! " But this is an escape of 'where' you

are at 'what' stage. You are at a stage where you have to detach yourself from

matter. So with Sahaja Yoga - I find that you must understand the complete

vision of Sahaja Yoga.

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

Extract from Formal Talk

Chelsham Road

London, England

27 September, 1980