Christ, Conditioning, and the Ego - Part 5

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Dear All,

 

We concluded Part 4 with:

 

Christ has openly said that you have to know yourself. Same in the Koran,

Mohammed said if you listen, you will know yourself - you will not know God.

There are a lot of truths in the Koran. I find the Koran is left over by this

'Mowaiya'. [break Quote]:

 

[Folks, it is confirmed here about 'this Mowaiya' that tampered with the

religion]:

 

" Who Tampered the Religion?

 

A contemplating glance over the dialogue will show that how Muslim Bin Aqeel

even at the end moments of his life was defending Imamat and very vociferously

announced that the Holy Ahlebait (A. M. S.) did not change or distort the

religion rather it has been habit of Mowaiyah, Yazid and their offsprings. "

 

http://www.yamahdi.com/moharram/articles/assasin.htm

 

[Resume Quote]:

 

Also in the Bible. Also in the Jewish. I find their Torah has lots of truth, but

it is covered by all these kinds of thinking, 'lots of rationality' - and they

have done it, just for their own purposes. We have to understand that Christ

never actually started a religion. No! None of them have. Especially Mohammed,

who talked about Abraham, about Moses, about Christ and His Mother much more,

than it is spoken about in the Bible. He respected Her, and He said they're

having 'more than one lack of realised souls' - before. But still, the Muslims

are some sort of unique people, because they call themselves 'Muslims' whether

they drink; it doesn't matter - womanise; it doesn't matter - kill people; it

doesn't matter. They're running after things which are forbidden to them but

they are still 'Muslims'. It's the same with the Christians. It's difficult to

find a man who is a real Christian, who follows Christ - before realisation.

After realisation, of course, we are different. But for that, you have to cross

this Agnya. The Agnya is also there, to control your ego. Christ, in his

lifetime, showed how ego works. His own crucifixion itself, shows how Christ is

such a great incarnation of purity - that was crucified. It shows what people

are like - what they did to Him. How He struggled and was tortured by these

stupid people and how He then was crucified by the government.

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

Christmas Puja

Ganapatipule, India

24 December, 1995

 

 

 

Here now, is Part 5.

 

Enjoy!

 

violet

 

 

Christ, Conditioning, and the Ego - Part 5

 

In the beginning there were many sahaja yogis. I should say they were Gnostics

( " Gno " in Sanskrit means " knowledge " ) who had the knowledge about " Self " . Christ

has said that: " Know thyself; you have to knock at the door " - meaning you must

have the " Iccha " [the Desire]. Otherwise, it won't work out. He controls the

Ego. He's the one who gives you the balance. But if you go to the West, you know

there are nothing but some sort of a stupid 'donkey-like Ego' in the way they

talk and behave towards each other. So be aware. God knows how they have

developed so they are 'oh, so sophisticated, this, that'! But this Agnya [Narrow

Gate] is catching:

 

http://www.adishakti.org/subtle_system/agnya_chakra.htm

 

Christ has said in His Lord's Prayer: " Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive

those who trespass against us " . What a big thing to say! For one thing, I've

seen in the West, people don't know how to forgive. They are full of hatred and

they cannot ask forgiveness, because they are full of terrible ego. Though they

feel guilty, they never ask for forgiveness. They never say: " Oh God, forgive me

for what I've done " . This is so common now. For example, the Nazis killed so

many people and still you find neo-Nazis coming up, even in Italy. They're not

ashamed for what they have done. This happens because they are not really

connected with Christ. Firstly, if you have connection with Christ, your ego has

to be finished absolutely. And this ego, which comes to you from various sources

- is a myth. It's a myth! With this 'ego' [lower self] people try to fool others

and show off. Like this story, I don't know if you have read about him. He came

to a king and told him that: " I am a great architect and I will build a big

palace for you " and this, that. The way he posed, the king believed him. He

said: " Alright, go ahead, I'll send you so much money. " Now, with this whole

attitude and the way he was describing himself with all these gestures full of

such ego, the king also got completely lost and gave him lots of money and in

six months time he came back and said: " I've built your palace. Come have a

look " . The king saw it was as such, the same land, but there was no palace

anywhere, nothing! So the king thought: " Something is wrong " . And he was again

looking and looking but what does he find? He finds there is no palace. Nothing!

Immediately, he realised this ego has befouled him! So the king was very clever;

that way he did realise. So he said: " See this main road by which we go. This is

the palace. This is the door. Nothing there! It's all just a story, and now,

here is your throne! And please be seated on it. " The king said: " First you sit

on it. " He made this chap sit on the throne, which didn't exist. Now imagine! It

was very painful. He said: " You sit. I want to see you sit there. I would like

that. " For one hour the king made him sit. For two hours he made him sit.

Ultimately, this fellow fell at the king's feet and said: " I'm sorry, there's no

palace, no throne, nothing of the kind! " But the king had lost all his money. So

he imprisoned him, beat him up, and all that.

 

So this is the end of all false ideas about money. This ego can take you to such

a height of stupidity. And the culture wherein it is pampered, is the worst

culture. I've seen advertisements where they say you must smoke this particular

cigarette, because it presses your ego down. But according to Indian culture, to

express your ego is something very stupid. People laugh at such a person. The

one who tries to show his ego in Marathi land is seen as 'trying to show off'.

Then they say: " He is climbing on a small little shrub of chama! " The whole

system is such that nobody can develop any ego, if they are connected. In

Maharastra http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maharashtra it's very difficult to

develop any ego. As soon as you start talking big about yourself, immediately

you're punctured. But in the north, of course, a little bit is allowed, I think

- and people do talk big. Great politicians talk very big: " I'm going to do

this " . " I'm going to do that " . " I'm going to do this project, that project " -

something Christ never said! Christ never talked like that!

 

If you see his sermons he's so deep and enlightened despite the efforts of this

gentleman, Mr. Paul. You see Christ talking to people, explicating [laying open

the meaning] in different ways, what happens after realisation and how it can

get spoiled. He explained very beautifully why it didn't have much effect at

that time. His life was so charming and so beautiful. Like a shooting star, he

came on this earth but left such a remarkable impression on people. His

crucifixion was a part of the game, because he had to make the way in the Agnya

chakra [Narrow Gate] to cross it. The Agnya chakra was crucified, but his

Message is not crucifixion. People wear the cross, and I feel very hurt about

it. People were celebrating that he crucified himself, but that's not the

message. That's not why you should celebrate. You have to celebrate his

resurrection, because human beings are to be resurrected!

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

Christmas Puja

Ganapatipule, India

24 December, 1995

 

[Written in the English way with the meaning of what Shri Mataji gave being

retained]