Guest guest Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 " So what is the nature of the Holy Spirit? We have Christ telling us that the Spirit that God gives us as a gift is a counselor, comforter, advocate and helper. " - David Kroll THE NATURE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT David Kroll Sun, 13 Jan 2008 " John shows the evidence of God living in us is the Holy Spirit He gives us. What is the significance of this? Let's look at what this same John records regarding Christ's conversation with Nicodemus about being born of the spirit. John 3 1-8: Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a member of the Jewish ruling council. He came to Jesus at night and said, " Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him. " In reply Jesus declared, " I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again. " " How can a man be born when he is old? " Nicodemus asked. " Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born! " Jesus answered, " I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. You should not be surprised at my saying, `You must be born again.' The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit. " What is being discussed here is being born of the Spirit and it is discussed in reference to the experience being like the wind... Of even greater significance is that God's spirit in us is our guarantee of eternal life. See what Paul wrote to the Ephesian Christians: Ephesians 1:13-14: And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession--to the praise of his glory. Apostle Paul makes some very profound statements about the Spirit of God in his letter to the Roman Church. Romans 8:5-9: Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace; the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so. Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God. You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you... Here we see that having God's spirit indwelling us is what facilitates our belonging to Christ. Many other scriptures show belonging to Christ equates with passing from death unto life. So we can see that having the Spirit of God is critical to our salvation and should also be the controlling influence in our behavior... So what is the nature of the Holy Spirit? We have Christ telling us that the Spirit that God gives us as a gift is a counselor, comforter, advocate and helper. Christ also shows the Spirit of God to be the power by which we are ushered into the Kingdom of God which other scriptures equate with eternal life. John shows that having the Spirit is what identifies us as having God in us. Paul says the Spirit identifies our being in Christ. Paul says we should allow the Spirit to control us and not our sinful nature. Paul shows God's spirit is a spirit of power, love and sound mindedness. Paul also shows that the Spirit can be stirred up and it can be quenched. When one looks at the many references to the Spirit of God in the scriptures, it becomes apparent that God's spirit is an expression and manifestation of what God is. God is life and imparts life to us through His Spirit. God is love and imparts love and the ability to love through His spirit. God is power and through His Spirit will manifest His power through us as He wills. God's spirit is counselor, comforter, advocate, helper and truth. " THE NATURE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT David Kroll Sun, 13 Jan 2008 " Today we are celebrating the resurrection of Christ. With it we also have to celebrate the resurrection of human beings, of Sahaja Yogis, who have been resurrected as realised souls. With that we have to understand that we enter into a new awareness. He had to come down and again to show to this world that you are the eternal life, that you lead a life that is spiritual, which never perishes. You have to rise, into that new realm, which is the Realm of God Almighty, what you call the Kingdom of God. And He said it very clearly to Nicodemus that `You have to be born again' when he asked, `Am I to enter back into my mother's womb?', and He said it so clearly. Those who don't want to see can remain blind. No, that is, whatever is born of the flesh, is the flesh, but whatever is born of the Spirit is the Spirit.' But whatever is manmade is not the Spirit. This is the clear statement of Christ, which people wanted to avoid, and start their own organisations, and ideas, and created a very mythical thing in His name. And now the time has come for it to be blasted. It has been going on and on now for thousands of years, captures so many innocent people and people are into it. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi V4 No 23 Sept 84 p4 " Now this Kundalini is the power which is placed in the sacrum bone, nowhere else... And imagine this bone is called sacrum; " sacrum " means " sacred. So they knew there was something in it... This is the primule, is the germinating power within us. Now this fact has been accepted for thousands of years in India and elsewhere. For in the Bible also ... they talk of the Tree of Life. That is the same as this... So this is the thing that is being described in our ancient books, in all the scriptures, even in the Qur'an they are described as Ruh, R,U,H, Ruh. " Ruh " means the " cold breeze " , the " cool breeze " . The cool breeze of the Holy Ghost is described in the Bible also. You cannot suddenly start a new idea about something. If it is an evolutionary process, if it is a living process it must have its background, its history, and it must culminate into something fruitful. Like every fruit has a tree behind it... If it is a living fruit it has to come out the tree that have existed for thousands and thousands of years, and out of that this tree has to come. It must have a base and this is traditionally called the kundalini awakening process... Christ has said very clearly that you have to be born again. I mean the whole message of Christ's life is realization ... when Christ came on this Earth to show that you have to become the spirit. By His resurrection He showed that, and this is the message of Christ. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi October 23, 1980 - Hampstead, UK " The Kundalini rises through a very thin line of Brahmanadi. In the beginning only a hair like thing rises, it pierces through. In some people, of course, in a big way it rises also. And then it pierces this fontanel bone area which is a real baptism, real. Today only people felt the cool breeze coming out of their heads. Can you do that by jumping, or by paying money? They felt the cool breeze in the hand. It's written in the Bible, even in the Bible very clearly, that it's the cool breeze. Cool breeze is the sign of the Holy Ghost. You start feeling the cool breeze in your hands and you start feeling the cool breeze on your head. This is the actualization. Of course, you people don't read other books which are very good, like Adi Shankaracharya. People don't even like the mention of his name who has really and clearly said that it is the cool breeze, the chaitanya, is to be felt like cool breeze in the hands. They do not want that you should know the truth. And this is the truth that when you get your realization, you have to feel the cool breeze in your hands yourself. You have to judge yourself. I'm not going to tell you. It is you who has to see, it is you who has to feel. And then you have to grow and you have to know all and everything - all the secrets of Divine Science. You become the master then, you are the guru. You are the Spirit, and you should get it. It's your own which is given to you. I have nothing to do about it. I'm just a catalyst. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi March 22, 1981 - Maccabean Hall, Australia " Christ didn't say that, " I am the Destination. " He said, " I'll send you the Holy Ghost; I'll send you a Comforter; I'll send you a Redeemer; I'll send you a Councilor. " He talked about the future. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi " I am here to do the job of God Almighty. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Bordi, India — February 6, 1985 " To know God itself is such a great blessing, because He is the God Almighty; the God who has all the powers and all the loved ones. He is our Father, He is waiting for us to enter into His Kingdom, to enjoy that peace and beauty of His Being, because He has created us and He wants His creation to come up to that. " Shri Mataji Shri Nirmala Devi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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