Re : Sharmila, i have finally got enough evidence of

[Guest guest]

Dear Ajay,

 

i have always backed up what i say with what Shri Mataji has taught and will

continue to do so. i have never said that i am a SY and others are not. i don't

know where you get that idea from, Ajay. You certainly are confused on that

point. But what point exactly of what Shri Mataji taught are you confused about?

Because i can assure you they won't be able to clarify it for you at the

divinesahaja yoga forum. All you will get there is more of the SYSSR, but if it

is 24/7 manual external clearing and cleansing you are after, i am sure Aunty

Shaku will be only too happy to oblige!

 

warm regards,

 

violet

 

 

, Ajay Agarwal

<ajay_msh wrote:

>

> Dear All .

>

> I am also confused very much ..of the 24 x 7 claims from Jagbir and

Voilet that they are the true SY and others are not so much following

the Sh Mataji.

> Anyway, can anybody tell me how to contact divinesahajayoga forum,

i would like to connect.

>

> Thanks

> ajay

>

>

> --- On Sat, 7/26/08, alice abergel <lilysharmila wrote:

>

> alice abergel <lilysharmila

> Re : Sharmila, i have finally got

enough evidence of your true IQ

>

> Saturday, July 26, 2008, 6:14 AM

>

>

Dear Jagbir,

>

>

> Very surprised by your mail, I really don't know what you mean by

> having my Sahasrara open by Danny ,,,,

> The only one Who opened my sahasrara is Shri Mataji, Sakshat Shri

Adi Shakti .

> No sending mail to your forum is absolutely not a problem for me.

> Yes I spread Sahaja Yoga, (always ,everydayday ) and have been

Mother's channel to give hundred and hundred,ralisations ,with the Job

given by mother as an airlines stewardess.. .

> Does it disturb you so much to hear the truth..?

> .wanting to do the utmost for Sahaja Yoga,

> and insulting others.. Really who do you thing you are..???

> Come on meditate a little more and clean you agnya,

> a dirty agnya,closes the heart...

> Time has come for everybody now.. and you know it.!!!!!!!

> I don't mind if you don't show this mail.

> I can't let you insulting my cleverness !

> So as it is the very very last one , it would be fare to do it...

>

>

> And remember,Not only FORGIVE, but FORGET....

> ...

> Love to all.

>

>

> Sharmila of Belgium

>

>

> ----- Message d'origine ----

> De : jagbir singh <adishakti_org@ >

> À : adishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com

> Envoyé le : Vendredi, 25 Juillet 2008, 20h32mn 47s

> Objet : [adishakti_sahaja_ yoga] Sharmila, i have finally got enough

evidence of your true IQ

>

>

>

> Sharmila,

>

> i have finally obtained enough evidence of your true IQ from the guy

> " danny " with whom you exchanged many emails. Your Sahasrara was

> enlightened enough by him for you to embrace him, and bestow the

> title of " maha yogi " . Congratulations, my dear senior SY citizen.

>

> To be honest, you were always suspect for a long time but i had no

> proof to back myself. That you have spent more than 21 years in

> Sahaja Yoga is a true testimony to the serious side-effects of SYSSR.

> i cringe at the fact that there are people like you trying to spread

> Sahaja Yoga. Thus i am not the least surprised at the bankruptcy of

> most SY efforts. (Again, i am so happy that i have left the Montreal

> collective years ago. My wife still shudders at their ceaseless catch

> and treatment subtle system mindset. i will strive that no seeker in

> future will go through that fanaticism and `madness'!)

>

> i would prefer that you not post anymore here. Please go to the

> divinesahajayoga forum where there are more of your kind. Please

> check with Aunty Shaku, Rabi Ghosh, Kuntal Sood, John Noyce, Alan

> Wherry, Richard Payment (to name just a few) and tell them that i

> have exiled your there. i am sure they have lots of SYSSR treatments

> to rid you of the danny's bhoots that possessed you to knight him

> a " Maha yogi " .

>

> If you persist in posting here i will delete ALL of your emails, just

> like danny's. Hope i do not have to take that course of action.

>

> let sleeping pariah dogs like me lie in peace,

>

> jagbir

>

> Note: i know this is just the tip of the SY iceberg. There is a lot

> of dirty, ugly and stinking stuff that still remains hidden from the

> public. But with global warming we are sure it will melt over time

> and surface. So just be patient.

>

> Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:06 pm

> talk-about-sahaja- yoga@ .com, " lilysharmila "

> <lilysharmila@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > -Danny what is the mater with you ???-

> >

> > have you lost your senses ??

> > Are you becoming " nut " s to say things like that about

> > Shri Mother...

> > And don't tell me no more that this has ...sens

> > It's a shame a real shame from a ... Maha yogi..

> > after all Maha of what ...?????

> >

> > Sharmila of Belgium

> >

>

> http://groups. / group/talk- about-sahaja- yoga/message/ 15966

>

> Re: All I said(for Sharmila)

>

> Sharmila..

> Yes,I have lost my senses when I see all the yogis around worshipping

> something outside their true selves.

> I totally lost my senses when I see the essence of self-realization

> went down the drain,and now it transformed in some sari wearing

> moustaches dudes,telling the newcomers to bow to the SM photo and

> ask,,for realization, ,.and ignoring the affirmations for each chakras.

> And telling people 20 minutes of meditation a day is the way to become

> a Buddha.

> And as I remember...we have talked lots on emails,and I was telling

> you in the emails I am a mahayogi.I said that,so you could

> benefit...not for my glory,since the very sense of a ,,mahayogi,,

> makes one NOT one!!

> And you..washing dirty laundry in public,without knowing exactly what

> I ment,makes you a dispicable person,really.

> Not being able to UNDERSTAND that the cause of why sahaja yoga is NOT

> spreading is the very Shri Mataji stupid worshipping! !!

> But what do YOU care,woman?

>

> Do YOU care about it?..all you abandon all your cares to the Shri

> Mataji?..and DO nothing?

>

> The future generations will make you,Sharmila. .accountable for this

> grave mistake...yoga is NOT about worshipping. .it's about finding your

> true self.

> And...Sharmila. ..read my lips,because these are my last comments to

> you,the belgian flower.

> THERE IS NO GOD besides your TRUE SELF!

> YOGA means UNION with your TRUE SELF,NOT worshipping any god!

> NO GOD Can save you..if one could,it'd have DONE IT long time before!

> Becoming your OWN master does NOT mean worshipping anybody!

> Now..go and meditate your 20 minutes a day,and call yourself

> free,Sharmila. ..lol

> love,Danny

>

> Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:23 pm

> talk-about-sahaja- yoga@ .com, " canthisbejoel "

> <canthisbejoel@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Ah, we're at the " burning sense of injustice " phase. So be it.

> >

> > Let's get back on topic. What do you think of Mataji these days?

>

> I think she is still fat.

> Fat,as in lots of fats she eats...all the greesy stuff.

>

> Shri Mataji was ALWAYS FAT,was fat,and will die fat.

>

> SHE was BORN fat!

>

> Why..is not the truth?

> Joel..if you think I am NOT telling you the truth..just TRUST ME!

> FAT!..ok?..ones you go fat...you'll never come back!

> That's all!!..

> You are born fat,live life like a fat pig,then die.That's ALL there

> is...then die like a fat dog!

> That's my opinion of Shri Mataji,dear. .

> love,danny

>

> adishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com, alice abergel

> <lilysharmila@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jagbir ,

> >

> > My QI is only 152 !

> >

> > Sharmila

> >

> >

> > ----- Message d'origine ----

> > De : jagbir singh <adishakti_org@ ...>

> > À : adishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com

> > Envoyé le : Lundi, 21 Juillet 2008, 20h38mn 55s

> > Objet : Re: Re : [adishakti_sahaja_ yoga] criticism

> >

> >

> > Sharmila,

> >

> > You just keep missing the point again and again and ...... yet

> again.

> > Your leader may be the best SY east of the Milky Way, but if he

> just

> > parrots what WCASY tells him, and is not honest and upfront to new

> > seekers/public about the Comforter's message of the Resurrection,

> > then he is just empowering the antichrist negativity. And you are

> > just part and parcel of it as you support his dishonesty! Have i

> made

> > myself clear at last or are you going to repeat your praise of him

> to

> > high heaven ............ .. and make me seriously suspect your

> IQ?!!!

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > jagbir

> >

> > adishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com, alice abergel

> > <lilysharmila@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dearar , very dear Nicole,

> > >

> > > For some Ieaders, I completely agree with you !

> > > But may be in Belgium, we are blessed since I' am in Sahaj by

> the

> > Grâce of Our Shri Mother

> > > since 21 years.. we had and still have intelligent and sensible

> and

> > devoted leaders.

> > > I was very surprised to read that some ask Shri Mother to become

> > leaders.... ?

> > > That, does n't make sens at all !

> > > It's hard enought to be leader of our own..

> > > I just ask my self as your forum is read by so many people..

> > > and not a stupid forum .....a rich very rich forum.. where I

> still

> > find a lot of things

> > > (thanks for that !) if new people read some of your mails what

> > would they think

> > > about Sahaja Yoga .?

> > > Nicole you know then anybody else that what ever is writen by a

> > yogi ( I mean, a real

> > > yogi ), as you are all. it gives vibrations. And as by the Grâ

> ce

> > of Mother, I feel them

> > > very well,I feel agnya...

> > > Please don't spoil your beautifull vibrations , anymore !

> > > I don't know Violet, I have been heard that she is really a very

> > devoted yogini..

> > > Tell her as My english is not perfect " ce n'était pas une

> > attaque " , mais une constatation.

> > >

> > > Real love to all of you...

> > > and of course " truth will preval " , and truth always preval

> > >

> > > Sharmila

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ----- Message d'origine ----

> > > De : nicole_bougantouche <nicole_bougantouch e

> > > À : adishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com

> > > Envoyé le : Lundi, 21 Juillet 2008, 7h28mn 38s

> > > Objet : [adishakti_sahaja_ yoga] criticism

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Sharmilla,

> > >

> > > Although you pretend to be irritated by the criticism emanating

> > from

> > > our forum, i just notice that you follow it's evolution with the

> > > greatest attention, as you don't miss anything.

> > >

> > > Yes we do criticise, we denounce the power that leaders have

> > bestowed

> > > upon themselves, and we warn the Sahaja Yogis about the danger of

> > > following them in a dead end way, which is the least evil, or

> worst

> > > to the anihilation of Her Divine Message, which is the greatest

> sin.

> > >

> > > we also inform, we search in order to provide the seekers of the

> > > truth the most relevant material to feed their quest.

> > >

> > > Of course, Sharmilla, we take the risk to eventually not please

> > > people who are either weak people who follow the movement without

> > > asking questions, or, more dangerous, people who deliberately

> > > misguide those latters.

> > >

> > > Sharmilla, if you are looking for something sweeter, that won't

> > hurt

> > > uour sensibility, have a search on the web, there are plenty

> > > of " blogs " who pretend to promote Shri Mataji, by displaying a

> > > picture of Her on their homepage, but in fact serve only their

> self

> > > promotion and ego by telling all kind of uninteressant stuffs

> > > ponctuated by " Jay Shri Mataji " .

> > >

> > > May Truth prevail

> > > nicole

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > _______

> > > Envoyez avec Mail. Une boite mail plus intelligente

> > http://mail. .fr

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> _______

> > Envoyez avec Mail. Une boite mail plus intelligente

> http://mail. .fr

> Envoyé avec Mail.

> Une boite mail plus intelligente.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Voilet,

When I read your emails ( avg is 3 km in length) , they all repeatedly say the same thing.... your interpretation of Shri Mataji's talk at various places ...these interpretations are supported by some examples /events of some old manuscripts / books /etc and are followed by jagbir email matching your email length.

 

Your interpretation you try to prove right...criticizing others....that's confusing... you may be right ....but others are wrong ? how can you say that.

that's one point i tried to highlight...no issues as such.

 

JSM

-ajay

--- On Sat, 7/26/08, Violet <violetubb wrote:

Violet <violetubbRe: Re : Sharmila, i have finally got enough evidence of Date: Saturday, July 26, 2008, 3:03 PM

 

 

Dear Ajay,i have always backed up what i say with what Shri Mataji has taught and will continue to do so. i have never said that i am a SY and others are not. i don't know where you get that idea from, Ajay. You certainly are confused on that point. But what point exactly of what Shri Mataji taught are you confused about? Because i can assure you they won't be able to clarify it for you at the divinesahaja yoga forum. All you will get there is more of the SYSSR, but if it is 24/7 manual external clearing and cleansing you are after, i am sure Aunty Shaku will be only too happy to oblige!warm regards,violetadishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com, Ajay Agarwal<ajay_msh@.. .> wrote:>> Dear All .> > I am also confused very much ..of the 24 x 7 claims from Jagbir andVoilet that they are the

true SY and others are not so much followingthe Sh Mataji.> Anyway, can anybody tell me how to contact divinesahajayoga forum,i would like to connect.> > Thanks> ajay> > > --- On Sat, 7/26/08, alice abergel <lilysharmila@ ...> wrote:> > alice abergel <lilysharmila@ ...>> Re : [adishakti_sahaja_ yoga] Sharmila, i have finally gotenough evidence of your true IQ> adishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com> Saturday, July 26, 2008, 6:14 AM> > > > > > > > > Dear Jagbir,> > > Very surprised by your mail, I really don't know what you mean by> having my Sahasrara open by Danny ,,,,> The only one Who opened my sahasrara is Shri Mataji, Sakshat

ShriAdi Shakti .> No sending mail to your forum is absolutely not a problem for me.> Yes I spread Sahaja Yoga, (always ,everydayday ) and have beenMother's channel to give hundred and hundred,ralisations ,with the Jobgiven by mother as an airlines stewardess.. .> Does it disturb you so much to hear the truth..?> .wanting to do the utmost for Sahaja Yoga,> and insulting others.. Really who do you thing you are..???> Come on meditate a little more and clean you agnya, > a dirty agnya,closes the heart...> Time has come for everybody now.. and you know it.!!!!!!!> I don't mind if you don't show this mail.> I can't let you insulting my cleverness !> So as it is the very very last one , it would be fare to do it...> > > And remember,Not only FORGIVE, but FORGET....> ...> Love to all.> > > Sharmila of Belgium>

> > ----- Message d'origine ----> De : jagbir singh <adishakti_org@ >> À : adishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com> Envoyé le : Vendredi, 25 Juillet 2008, 20h32mn 47s> Objet : [adishakti_sahaja_ yoga] Sharmila, i have finally got enoughevidence of your true IQ> > > > Sharmila,> > i have finally obtained enough evidence of your true IQ from the guy > "danny" with whom you exchanged many emails. Your Sahasrara was > enlightened enough by him for you to embrace him, and bestow the > title of "maha yogi". Congratulations, my dear senior SY citizen.> > To be honest, you were always suspect for a long time but i had no > proof to back myself. That you have spent more than 21 years in > Sahaja Yoga is a true testimony to the serious side-effects of SYSSR. > i cringe at the fact that there are people

like you trying to spread > Sahaja Yoga. Thus i am not the least surprised at the bankruptcy of > most SY efforts. (Again, i am so happy that i have left the Montreal > collective years ago. My wife still shudders at their ceaseless catch > and treatment subtle system mindset. i will strive that no seeker in > future will go through that fanaticism and `madness'!)> > i would prefer that you not post anymore here. Please go to the > divinesahajayoga forum where there are more of your kind. Please > check with Aunty Shaku, Rabi Ghosh, Kuntal Sood, John Noyce, Alan > Wherry, Richard Payment (to name just a few) and tell them that i > have exiled your there. i am sure they have lots of SYSSR treatments > to rid you of the danny's bhoots that possessed you to knight him > a "Maha yogi".> > If you persist in posting here i will delete ALL of your emails,

just > like danny's. Hope i do not have to take that course of action.> > let sleeping pariah dogs like me lie in peace,> > jagbir> > Note: i know this is just the tip of the SY iceberg. There is a lot > of dirty, ugly and stinking stuff that still remains hidden from the > public. But with global warming we are sure it will melt over time > and surface. So just be patient.> > Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:06 pm > talk-about-sahaja- yoga@ .com, "lilysharmila"> <lilysharmila@ ...> wrote:> >> > -Danny what is the mater with you ???-> >> > have you lost your senses ??> > Are you becoming "nut"s to say things like that about> > Shri Mother...> > And don't tell me no more that this has ...sens> > It's a shame a real shame from a ... Maha yogi..> > after all

Maha of what ...?????> >> > Sharmila of Belgium> >> > http://groups. / group/talk- about-sahaja- yoga/message/ 15966> > Re: All I said(for Sharmila) > > Sharmila..> Yes,I have lost my senses when I see all the yogis around worshipping> something outside their true selves.> I totally lost my senses when I see the essence of self-realization> went down the drain,and now it transformed in some sari wearing> moustaches dudes,telling the newcomers to bow to the SM photo and> ask,,for realization, ,.and ignoring the affirmations for each chakras.> And telling people 20 minutes of meditation a day is the way to become> a Buddha.> And as I remember...we have talked lots on emails,and I was telling> you in the emails I am a mahayogi.I said that,so you

could> benefit...not for my glory,since the very sense of a ,,mahayogi,,> makes one NOT one!!> And you..washing dirty laundry in public,without knowing exactly what> I ment,makes you a dispicable person,really.> Not being able to UNDERSTAND that the cause of why sahaja yoga is NOT> spreading is the very Shri Mataji stupid worshipping! !!> But what do YOU care,woman?> > Do YOU care about it?..all you abandon all your cares to the Shri> Mataji?..and DO nothing?> > The future generations will make you,Sharmila. .accountable for this> grave mistake...yoga is NOT about worshipping. .it's about finding your> true self.> And...Sharmila. ..read my lips,because these are my last comments to> you,the belgian flower.> THERE IS NO GOD besides your TRUE SELF!> YOGA means UNION with your TRUE SELF,NOT worshipping any god!> NO GOD Can

save you..if one could,it'd have DONE IT long time before!> Becoming your OWN master does NOT mean worshipping anybody!> Now..go and meditate your 20 minutes a day,and call yourself> free,Sharmila. ..lol> love,Danny> > Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:23 pm > talk-about-sahaja- yoga@ .com, "canthisbejoel"> <canthisbejoel@ ...> wrote:> >> > Ah, we're at the "burning sense of injustice" phase. So be it.> >> > Let's get back on topic. What do you think of Mataji these days?> > I think she is still fat.> Fat,as in lots of fats she eats...all the greesy stuff.> > Shri Mataji was ALWAYS FAT,was fat,and will die fat.> > SHE was BORN fat!> > Why..is not the truth?> Joel..if you think I am NOT telling you the truth..just TRUST ME!> FAT!..ok?..ones you go fat...you'll never come

back!> That's all!!..> You are born fat,live life like a fat pig,then die.That's ALL there> is...then die like a fat dog!> That's my opinion of Shri Mataji,dear. .> love,danny> > adishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com, alice abergel > <lilysharmila@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Jagbir ,> > > > My QI is only 152 !> > > > Sharmila > > > > > > ----- Message d'origine ----> > De : jagbir singh <adishakti_org@ ...>> > À : adishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com> > Envoyé le : Lundi, 21 Juillet 2008, 20h38mn 55s> > Objet : Re: Re : [adishakti_sahaja_ yoga] criticism> > > > > > Sharmila,> > > > You just keep missing the point again and again and ...... yet > again. > > Your leader may be the

best SY east of the Milky Way, but if he > just > > parrots what WCASY tells him, and is not honest and upfront to new > > seekers/public about the Comforter's message of the Resurrection, > > then he is just empowering the antichrist negativity. And you are > > just part and parcel of it as you support his dishonesty! Have i > made > > myself clear at last or are you going to repeat your praise of him > to > > high heaven ............ .. and make me seriously suspect your > IQ?!!!> > > > regards,> > > > jagbir> > > > adishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com, alice abergel > > <lilysharmila@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dearar , very dear Nicole,> > > > > > For some Ieaders, I completely agree with you !> > > But may be in

Belgium, we are blessed since I' am in Sahaj by > the > > Grâce of Our Shri Mother> > > since 21 years.. we had and still have intelligent and sensible > and > > devoted leaders.> > > I was very surprised to read that some ask Shri Mother to become > > leaders.... ?> > > That, does n't make sens at all !> > > It's hard enought to be leader of our own..> > > I just ask my self as your forum is read by so many people.. > > > and not a stupid forum .....a rich very rich forum.. where I > still > > find a lot of things> > > (thanks for that !) if new people read some of your mails what > > would they think> > > about Sahaja Yoga .?> > > Nicole you know then anybody else that what ever is writen by a > > yogi ( I mean, a real> > > yogi ), as

you are all. it gives vibrations. And as by the Grâ> ce > > of Mother, I feel them> > > very well,I feel agnya...> > > Please don't spoil your beautifull vibrations , anymore !> > > I don't know Violet, I have been heard that she is really a very > > devoted yogini..> > > Tell her as My english is not perfect " ce n'était pas une > > attaque", mais une constatation.> > > > > > Real love to all of you...> > > and of course " truth will preval ", and truth always preval > > > > > > Sharmila> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Message d'origine ----> > > De : nicole_bougantouche <nicole_bougantouch e> > > À : adishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com> > > Envoyé le

: Lundi, 21 Juillet 2008, 7h28mn 38s> > > Objet : [adishakti_sahaja_ yoga] criticism> > > > > > > > > Dear Sharmilla,> > > > > > Although you pretend to be irritated by the criticism emanating > > from > > > our forum, i just notice that you follow it's evolution with the > > > greatest attention, as you don't miss anything.> > > > > > Yes we do criticise, we denounce the power that leaders have > > bestowed > > > upon themselves, and we warn the Sahaja Yogis about the danger of > > > following them in a dead end way, which is the least evil, or > worst > > > to the anihilation of Her Divine Message, which is the greatest > sin.> > > > > > we also inform, we search in order to provide the seekers of the > > > truth

the most relevant material to feed their quest.> > > > > > Of course, Sharmilla, we take the risk to eventually not please > > > people who are either weak people who follow the movement without > > > asking questions, or, more dangerous, people who deliberately > > > misguide those latters.> > > > > > Sharmilla, if you are looking for something sweeter, that won't > > hurt > > > uour sensibility, have a search on the web, there are plenty > > > of "blogs" who pretend to promote Shri Mataji, by displaying a > > > picture of Her on their homepage, but in fact serve only their > self > > > promotion and ego by telling all kind of uninteressant stuffs > > > ponctuated by "Jay Shri Mataji".> > > > > > May Truth prevail> > > nicole> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > _______ > > > Envoyez avec Mail. Une boite mail plus intelligente > > http://mail. .fr> > >> > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> _______ > > Envoyez avec Mail. Une boite mail plus intelligente > http://mail. .fr> >> > > > > > Envoyé avec Mail.> Une boite mail plus intelligente.>

[Guest guest]

Dear Ajay and All,

 

There's nothing wrong with saying the same thing over and over again, in many

different ways. Shri Mataji spent over 30 years doing just that. Also, there's

nothing wrong in clarifying what Shri Mataji said. Clarification is not the same

as misinterpretation. Ajay, if you are going to accuse someone of

misinterpretation, it is only fair to give specific examples. Otherwise, anyone

can accuse anybody of anything, without substantiating it. That's also why we

back up everything, as you say: " supported by some examples /events of some old

manuscripts / books /etc " and that's also why sometimes, as you say, it is

" followed by jagbir email matching your email length. "

 

Ajay, you say:

 

" Your interpretation you try to prove right...criticizing others....that's

confusing... you may be right ....but others are wrong ? how can you say that.

that's one point i tried to highlight...no issues as such. "

 

Ajay, you are talking general gibberish here, and not making any sense at all.

Like i say, you really have to clarify what you are talking about, otherwise

people might misinterpret you. No wonder you get yourself confused, Ajay!

 

warm regards,

 

violet

 

 

, Ajay Agarwal

<ajay_msh wrote:

>

> Dear Voilet,

> When I read your emails ( avg is 3 km in length) , they all

repeatedly say the same thing.... your interpretation of Shri Mataji's

talk at various places ...these interpretations are supported by some

examples /events of some old manuscripts / books /etc and are

followed by jagbir email matching your email length.

>

> Your interpretation you try to prove right...criticizing

others....that's confusing... you may be right ....but others are

wrong ? how can you say that.

> that's one point i tried to highlight...no issues as such.

>

> JSM

> -ajay

>

>

> --- On Sat, 7/26/08, Violet <violetubb wrote:

>

> Violet <violetubb

> Re: Re : Sharmila, i have finally

got enough evidence of

>

> Saturday, July 26, 2008, 3:03 PM

>

>

> Dear Ajay,

>

> i have always backed up what i say with what Shri Mataji has taught

and will continue to do so. i have never said that i am a SY and

others are not. i don't know where you get that idea from, Ajay. You

certainly are confused on that point. But what point exactly of what

Shri Mataji taught are you confused about? Because i can assure you

they won't be able to clarify it for you at the divinesahaja yoga

forum. All you will get there is more of the SYSSR, but if it is 24/7

manual external clearing and cleansing you are after, i am sure Aunty

Shaku will be only too happy to oblige!

>

> warm regards,

>

> violet

>

> adishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com, Ajay Agarwal

> <ajay_msh@ .> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All .

> >

> > I am also confused very much ..of the 24 x 7 claims from Jagbir and

> Voilet that they are the true SY and others are not so much following

> the Sh Mataji.

> > Anyway, can anybody tell me how to contact divinesahajayoga forum,

> i would like to connect.

> >

> > Thanks

> > ajay

> >

> >

> > --- On Sat, 7/26/08, alice abergel <lilysharmila@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > alice abergel <lilysharmila@ ...>

> > Re : [adishakti_sahaja_ yoga] Sharmila, i have finally got

> enough evidence of your true IQ

> > adishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com

> > Saturday, July 26, 2008, 6:14 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Jagbir,

> >

> >

> > Very surprised by your mail, I really don't know what you mean by

> > having my Sahasrara open by Danny ,,,,

> > The only one Who opened my sahasrara is Shri Mataji, Sakshat Shri

> Adi Shakti .

> > No sending mail to your forum is absolutely not a problem for me.

> > Yes I spread Sahaja Yoga, (always ,everydayday ) and have been

> Mother's channel to give hundred and hundred,ralisations ,with the Job

> given by mother as an airlines stewardess.. .

> > Does it disturb you so much to hear the truth..?

> > .wanting to do the utmost for Sahaja Yoga,

> > and insulting others.. Really who do you thing you are..???

> > Come on meditate a little more and clean you agnya,

> > a dirty agnya,closes the heart...

> > Time has come for everybody now.. and you know it.!!!!!!!

> > I don't mind if you don't show this mail.

> > I can't let you insulting my cleverness !

> > So as it is the very very last one , it would be fare to do it...

> >

> >

> > And remember,Not only FORGIVE, but FORGET....

> > ...

> > Love to all.

> >

> >

> > Sharmila of Belgium

> >

> >

> > ----- Message d'origine ----

> > De : jagbir singh <adishakti_org@ >

> > À : adishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com

> > Envoyé le : Vendredi, 25 Juillet 2008, 20h32mn 47s

> > Objet : [adishakti_sahaja_ yoga] Sharmila, i have finally got enough

> evidence of your true IQ

> >

> >

> >

> > Sharmila,

> >

> > i have finally obtained enough evidence of your true IQ from the guy

> > " danny " with whom you exchanged many emails. Your Sahasrara was

> > enlightened enough by him for you to embrace him, and bestow the

> > title of " maha yogi " . Congratulations, my dear senior SY citizen.

> >

> > To be honest, you were always suspect for a long time but i had no

> > proof to back myself. That you have spent more than 21 years in

> > Sahaja Yoga is a true testimony to the serious side-effects of SYSSR.

> > i cringe at the fact that there are people like you trying to spread

> > Sahaja Yoga. Thus i am not the least surprised at the bankruptcy of

> > most SY efforts. (Again, i am so happy that i have left the Montreal

> > collective years ago. My wife still shudders at their ceaseless catch

> > and treatment subtle system mindset. i will strive that no seeker in

> > future will go through that fanaticism and `madness'!)

> >

> > i would prefer that you not post anymore here. Please go to the

> > divinesahajayoga forum where there are more of your kind. Please

> > check with Aunty Shaku, Rabi Ghosh, Kuntal Sood, John Noyce, Alan

> > Wherry, Richard Payment (to name just a few) and tell them that i

> > have exiled your there. i am sure they have lots of SYSSR treatments

> > to rid you of the danny's bhoots that possessed you to knight him

> > a " Maha yogi " .

> >

> > If you persist in posting here i will delete ALL of your emails, just

> > like danny's. Hope i do not have to take that course of action.

> >

> > let sleeping pariah dogs like me lie in peace,

> >

> > jagbir

> >

> > Note: i know this is just the tip of the SY iceberg. There is a lot

> > of dirty, ugly and stinking stuff that still remains hidden from the

> > public. But with global warming we are sure it will melt over time

> > and surface. So just be patient.

> >

> > Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:06 pm

> > talk-about-sahaja- yoga@ .com, " lilysharmila "

> > <lilysharmila@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > -Danny what is the mater with you ???-

> > >

> > > have you lost your senses ??

> > > Are you becoming " nut " s to say things like that about

> > > Shri Mother...

> > > And don't tell me no more that this has ...sens

> > > It's a shame a real shame from a ... Maha yogi..

> > > after all Maha of what ...?????

> > >

> > > Sharmila of Belgium

> > >

> >

> > http://groups. / group/talk- about-sahaja- yoga/message/

15966

> >

> > Re: All I said(for Sharmila)

> >

> > Sharmila..

> > Yes,I have lost my senses when I see all the yogis around worshipping

> > something outside their true selves.

> > I totally lost my senses when I see the essence of self-realization

> > went down the drain,and now it transformed in some sari wearing

> > moustaches dudes,telling the newcomers to bow to the SM photo and

> > ask,,for realization, ,.and ignoring the affirmations for each

chakras.

> > And telling people 20 minutes of meditation a day is the way to become

> > a Buddha.

> > And as I remember...we have talked lots on emails,and I was telling

> > you in the emails I am a mahayogi.I said that,so you could

> > benefit...not for my glory,since the very sense of a ,,mahayogi,,

> > makes one NOT one!!

> > And you..washing dirty laundry in public,without knowing exactly what

> > I ment,makes you a dispicable person,really.

> > Not being able to UNDERSTAND that the cause of why sahaja yoga is NOT

> > spreading is the very Shri Mataji stupid worshipping! !!

> > But what do YOU care,woman?

> >

> > Do YOU care about it?..all you abandon all your cares to the Shri

> > Mataji?..and DO nothing?

> >

> > The future generations will make you,Sharmila. .accountable for this

> > grave mistake...yoga is NOT about worshipping. .it's about finding

your

> > true self.

> > And...Sharmila. ..read my lips,because these are my last comments to

> > you,the belgian flower.

> > THERE IS NO GOD besides your TRUE SELF!

> > YOGA means UNION with your TRUE SELF,NOT worshipping any god!

> > NO GOD Can save you..if one could,it'd have DONE IT long time before!

> > Becoming your OWN master does NOT mean worshipping anybody!

> > Now..go and meditate your 20 minutes a day,and call yourself

> > free,Sharmila. ..lol

> > love,Danny

> >

> > Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:23 pm

> > talk-about-sahaja- yoga@ .com, " canthisbejoel "

> > <canthisbejoel@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Ah, we're at the " burning sense of injustice " phase. So be it.

> > >

> > > Let's get back on topic. What do you think of Mataji these days?

> >

> > I think she is still fat.

> > Fat,as in lots of fats she eats...all the greesy stuff.

> >

> > Shri Mataji was ALWAYS FAT,was fat,and will die fat.

> >

> > SHE was BORN fat!

> >

> > Why..is not the truth?

> > Joel..if you think I am NOT telling you the truth..just TRUST ME!

> > FAT!..ok?..ones you go fat...you'll never come back!

> > That's all!!..

> > You are born fat,live life like a fat pig,then die.That's ALL there

> > is...then die like a fat dog!

> > That's my opinion of Shri Mataji,dear. .

> > love,danny

> >

> > adishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com, alice abergel

> > <lilysharmila@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Jagbir ,

> > >

> > > My QI is only 152 !

> > >

> > > Sharmila

> > >

> > >

> > > ----- Message d'origine ----

> > > De : jagbir singh <adishakti_org@ ...>

> > > À : adishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com

> > > Envoyé le : Lundi, 21 Juillet 2008, 20h38mn 55s

> > > Objet : Re: Re : [adishakti_sahaja_ yoga] criticism

> > >

> > >

> > > Sharmila,

> > >

> > > You just keep missing the point again and again and ...... yet

> > again.

> > > Your leader may be the best SY east of the Milky Way, but if he

> > just

> > > parrots what WCASY tells him, and is not honest and upfront to new

> > > seekers/public about the Comforter's message of the Resurrection,

> > > then he is just empowering the antichrist negativity. And you are

> > > just part and parcel of it as you support his dishonesty! Have i

> > made

> > > myself clear at last or are you going to repeat your praise of him

> > to

> > > high heaven ............ .. and make me seriously suspect your

> > IQ?!!!

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > jagbir

> > >

> > > adishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com, alice abergel

> > > <lilysharmila@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dearar , very dear Nicole,

> > > >

> > > > For some Ieaders, I completely agree with you !

> > > > But may be in Belgium, we are blessed since I' am in Sahaj by

> > the

> > > Grâce of Our Shri Mother

> > > > since 21 years.. we had and still have intelligent and sensible

> > and

> > > devoted leaders.

> > > > I was very surprised to read that some ask Shri Mother to become

> > > leaders.... ?

> > > > That, does n't make sens at all !

> > > > It's hard enought to be leader of our own..

> > > > I just ask my self as your forum is read by so many people..

> > > > and not a stupid forum .....a rich very rich forum.. where I

> > still

> > > find a lot of things

> > > > (thanks for that !) if new people read some of your mails what

> > > would they think

> > > > about Sahaja Yoga .?

> > > > Nicole you know then anybody else that what ever is writen by a

> > > yogi ( I mean, a real

> > > > yogi ), as you are all. it gives vibrations. And as by the Grâ

> > ce

> > > of Mother, I feel them

> > > > very well,I feel agnya...

> > > > Please don't spoil your beautifull vibrations , anymore !

> > > > I don't know Violet, I have been heard that she is really a very

> > > devoted yogini..

> > > > Tell her as My english is not perfect " ce n'était pas une

> > > attaque " , mais une constatation.

> > > >

> > > > Real love to all of you...

> > > > and of course " truth will preval " , and truth always preval

> > > >

> > > > Sharmila

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ----- Message d'origine ----

> > > > De : nicole_bougantouche <nicole_bougantouch e

> > > > À : adishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com

> > > > Envoyé le : Lundi, 21 Juillet 2008, 7h28mn 38s

> > > > Objet : [adishakti_sahaja_ yoga] criticism

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sharmilla,

> > > >

> > > > Although you pretend to be irritated by the criticism emanating

> > > from

> > > > our forum, i just notice that you follow it's evolution with the

> > > > greatest attention, as you don't miss anything.

> > > >

> > > > Yes we do criticise, we denounce the power that leaders have

> > > bestowed

> > > > upon themselves, and we warn the Sahaja Yogis about the danger of

> > > > following them in a dead end way, which is the least evil, or

> > worst

> > > > to the anihilation of Her Divine Message, which is the greatest

> > sin.

> > > >

> > > > we also inform, we search in order to provide the seekers of the

> > > > truth the most relevant material to feed their quest.

> > > >

> > > > Of course, Sharmilla, we take the risk to eventually not please

> > > > people who are either weak people who follow the movement without

> > > > asking questions, or, more dangerous, people who deliberately

> > > > misguide those latters.

> > > >

> > > > Sharmilla, if you are looking for something sweeter, that won't

> > > hurt

> > > > uour sensibility, have a search on the web, there are plenty

> > > > of " blogs " who pretend to promote Shri Mataji, by displaying a

> > > > picture of Her on their homepage, but in fact serve only their

> > self

> > > > promotion and ego by telling all kind of uninteressant stuffs

> > > > ponctuated by " Jay Shri Mataji " .

> > > >

> > > > May Truth prevail

> > > > nicole

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > > _______

> > > > Envoyez avec Mail. Une boite mail plus intelligente

> > > http://mail. .fr

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > _______

> > > Envoyez avec Mail. Une boite mail plus intelligente

> > http://mail. .fr

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Envoyé avec Mail.

> > Une boite mail plus intelligente.

> >

>