Guru Puja 2008: Only after taking realization you know that there is God and there are vibration.

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" Today is a great day for all of us. Because the ... you could feel

the existence of God. By saying there is God, that was not

sufficient. And to say there is no God also was wrong, very wrong,

and people have suffered, who have said like this. Only after taking

realization you know that there is God and there are vibrations. It

is a very big happening all over the world. Today I am saying that's

why it's one of the greatest days for you. "

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

2008 Guru Puja, Cabella, Italy

 

 

Dear devotees of the Primordial Mother,

 

Namaste – I bow to the Divine Feminine who resides in your Sahasrara!

 

i have decided to break up the ground-breaking 2008 Guru Puja speech

by Shri Mataji as it would be easier to grasp. i will also be

comparing Shri Mataji's message with the present SY organization so

that we can gauge the huge chasm that exists between both, the cause

of the present bankruptcy and assured future demise of the later.

(Off the bat i can assure you it is the end of an era. Things will

never be the same again.)

 

So here we go.

 

The opening paragraph is a deep, profoundly spiritual statement by

Shri Mataji, priceless knowledge that the vast majority of religious

masses have no clue. Only those who have felt the vibrations--ruach,

wind, cool breeze, the Nafas al Rachman, the breath of the Merciful,

Winds of Qiyamah--flowing from their hands and top of heads can

understand Her, and its relation to the Holy Scriptures and

eschatology. They know for a surety that the Resurrection is taking

place, as promised in the Torah, Bible and Qur'an. That is why it is

so important to slowly read and comprehend these words:

 

" Only after taking realization you know that there is God and there

are vibrations. It is a very big happening all over the world. Today

I am saying that's why it's one of the greatest days for you. "

 

Please read them slowly so that you can grasp where we truly stand,

and the duty we have to unconditionally discharge to the rest of

humanity! What Shri Mataji has said in Her opening lines is embedded

in all the Holy Scriptures, facts that their faithful can never deny.

 

For Jews " when applied to God, the word Ruach indicates creative

activity (Gen 1:2) and active power (Isa 40:13). The Spirit of God

also works in providence (Job 33:4; Psa 104:30), in redemption (Ezek

11:19; Ezek 36:26-27), in upholding and guiding his chosen ones (Neh

9:20; Psa 143:10; Hag 2:5), and in the empowering of the Messiah (Isa

11:2; Isa 42:1; Isa 61:1). In short, as the ruach is to the created

nephesh, so the Ruach Elohim is to God Himself, part of God and

identified with God. "

 

For Christians " we see the same connection between spirit, breath and

wind continued in the New Testament. Although the Greek (unlike the

Hebrew) has a different word for wind (anemos), pneuma and its

related verb pneo are translated " breath " (2 Thessalonians 2:8;

Revelation 11:11), " wind " (John 3:8; Acts 27:40) and " blow " (Luke

12:55).

 

Jesus Christ made this connection Himself. Without the understanding

of this background, details of the incident in which Jesus appeared

to His followers after His resurrection are puzzling. After Jesus

showed them the wounds in His hands and side, verifying that He had

indeed been raised from the dead, John records that Jesus

said: " 'Peace to you! As the Father has sent Me, I also send you.'

And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to

them, 'Receive the Holy Spirit [pneuma]' " (John 20:21-22).

 

Earlier He had told them He would send them a " helper " and

a " comforter, " the Holy Spirit. Here He repeats that promise. He also

demonstrates the nature of the Spirit that He would send: It would be

like a breath, like a wind, something they couldn't see, but they

would be influenced by its power. " [1]

 

For Muslims " the source of the universe is the breath of the

Merciful, " the 'nafas al rachman'. God is the merciful and, as he

manifests himself, he pours forth this " breath of the Merciful " . The

breath of the Merciful is the will in the divine nature to express

itself, to manifest itself, to become known, that is, to realise the

potentialities in its nature. " [2]

 

The word rûh comes from the same root as râhah. It is also related to

rîh, which means 'wind', mirwahah, meaning 'fan', and istirwâh which

means 'respiration'. The term " Spirit " translates the Hebrew word

ruah, which, in its primary sense, means 'breath', 'air', 'wind'.

Jesus indeed uses the sensory image of the wind to suggest to

Nicodemus the transcendent newness of him who is personally God's

breath, the divine Spirit. (Jn 3:3-8)

 

This Divine Wind is also the sure sign of Qiyamah:

 

It is Allah who sends forth the Winds so that they raise up the

Clouds, (3881)

And We drive them to a Land that is dead,

And revive the earth therewith after its death:

Even so (will be) the Resurrection!

 

surah 35:9 Fatir (The Originator of Creation)

Abdullah Yusuf Ali, The Holy Qur'an, Amana Corporation, 1989.

 

 

Your own senses confirm the existence of God during the Resurrection.

It is indeed a very big happening all over the world. That is why the

Qur'an questions and warns those disputing or doubting this Great

News to humanity:

 

Concerning what are they disputing?

Concerning the Great News. [5889]

About which they cannot agree.

Verily, they shall soon (come to) know!

Verily, verily they shall soon (come to) know!

 

surah 78:1-5 Al Naba' (The Great News)

 

" 5889. Great News: usually understood to mean the News or Message of

the Resurrection. "

 

Abdullah Yusuf Ali, The Holy Qur'an, Amana Corporation, 1989.

 

 

For Hindus " Kundalini, the serpent power or mystic fire, is the

primordial energy or Sakti that lies dormant or sleeping in the

Muladhara Chakra, the centre of the body. It is called the serpentine

or annular power on account of serpentine form. It is an electric

fiery occult power, the great pristine force which underlies all

organic and inorganic matter.

 

Kundalini is the cosmic power in individual bodies. It is not a

material force like electricity, magnetism, centripetal or

centrifugal force. It is a spiritual potential Sakti or cosmic power.

In reality it has no form. The Sthula Buddhi and mind have to follow

a particular form in the beginning stage. From this gross form, one

can easily, understand the subtle formless Kundalini. Prana,

Ahamkara, Buddhi, Indriyas, mind, five gross elements, nerves are all

the products of Kundalini.

 

It is the coiled-up, sleeping Divine Sakti that lies dormant in all

beings. You have seen in the Muladhara Chakra that there is Svayambhu

Linga. The head of the Linga is the space where Sushumna Nadi is

attached to the Kanda. This mysterious Kundalini lies face downwards

at the mouth of Sushumna Nadi on the head of Svayambhu Linga. It has

three and a half coils like a serpent. When it is awakened, it makes

a hissing sound like that of a serpent beaten with a stick, and

proceeds to the other Chakra through the Brahma Nadi, which is also

called Chitra Nadi within Sushumna. Hence Kundalini is also called

Bhujangini, serpent power. The three coils represent the three Gunas

of Prakriti: Sattva, Rajas and Tamas, and the half represents the

Vikritis, the modification of Prakriti.

 

Kundalini is the Goddess of speech and is praised by all. She

Herself, when awakened by the Yogin, achieves for him the

illumination. It is She who gives Mukti and Jnana for She is Herself

that. She is also called Sarasvati, as She is the form of Sabda

Brahman. She is the source of all Knowledge and Bliss. She is pure

consciousness itself. She is Brahman. She is Prana Sakti, the Supreme

Force, the Mother of Prana, Agni, Bindu, and Nada. It is by this

Sakti that the world exists. Creation, preservation and dissolution

are in Her. Only by her Sakti the world is kept up. It is through Her

Sakti on subtle Prana, Nada is produced. While you utter a continuous

sound or chant Dirgha Pranava ! (OM), you will distinctly feel that

the real vibration starts from the Muladhara Chakra. Through the

vibration of this Nada, all the parts of the body function. She

maintains the individual soul through the subtle Prana. In every kind

of Sadhana the Goddess Kundalini is the object of worship in some

form or the other. " [3]

 

For Sikhs " the notion of dasam dvar, written as dasam duar, occurs

several times in the Guru Granth Sahib. Sikhism is a strictly

monotheistic system belief and it must be stated at the outset that

according to Sikh view of the dasam dvar, the tenth door opens into

the abode of God, the Creator —dasam duara agam apara param purakh ki

ghati (GG, 974), and again —nau ghar thape thapanharai dasvai vasa

alakh aparai (GG, 1036)....

 

The nine doors (nau daryaje) and the tenth door are often mentioned

together to show their differences. The unstruck sound is heard at

the tenth door when it is freed from the shackles of nine doors in

the body—nau darvaje dasvai mukta anahad sabadu vajavania (GG, 110).

It is believed that the tenth door is closed by a hard diamond-like

door (bajar kapat) which is haumai (self-centredness). This hard and

strong door is opened and the darkness of haumai is dispelled by the

instruction of the Teacher (Guru). In other words, the tenth door is

the door of enlightenment and it opens only when the door consisting

of haumai is broken. It is taken for granted in Sikhism that the

tenth door is the supreme state of the mind. It is certainly not a

physical door; it is that state of purified consciousness in which

God is visible and all contacts with physical existence are cut off.

It is called a being's own house (nij-ghar), that is to say, a

being's real nature which is like light (joti sarup). One hears day

and night the anahad sabda there when one dwells in one's own house

through the tenth door—nau dar thake dhavatu rahae, dasvai nijghari

vasa pae (GG, 124).

 

At few places in the Gurbani, the term dasam duar has been used to

denote ten organs—five sensory organs and five organs of action, i.e.

jnanendriyas and karmendriyas. Says Guru Nanak: " Hukami sanjogi gari

das duar, panch vasahi mili joti apar " —in the fortress of the body

created in his hukam are ten doors. In this fort five subtle elements

of sabda (sound), sparsa (touch), rupa (sight), rasa (taste) and

grandha (smell) abide having the infinite light of the Lord in them

(GG, 152). The amrit which flows at the tenth door is the essence of

Divine name (nam ras) according to the Guru; it is not the physical

elixir of immortality conceived by the Siddhas, nor is this amrit to

be found by awakening kundalini or by practising khecari mudra; it is

to be found through the Teacher's instruction. When the Satguru is

encountered then one stops from running (after the nine doors) and

obtains the tenth door. Here at this door the immortalizing food

(amrit bhojan), the innate sound (sahaj dhuni) is produced—dhavatu

thammia satiguri miliai dasva duaru paia; tithai amrit bhojanu sahaj

dhuni upajai jitu sabadi jagatu thammi rahaia (GG, 441). " 4

 

 

But the sad fact is that the rank and file SYs are forbidden by WCASY

members to say any of this at their public programs. Moreover they

have so little scriptural knowledge to dare utter the same, thanks to

the decades-old SYSSR mindset. Thus both " self-realization " and

" vibrations " are explained away in relation to the subtle system, and

its mental, social and health benefits. The words " God, Torah, Bible,

Quran, Vedas, Guru Granth " , to name a few, are never publicly uttered

as Sahaja Yoga is loudly advertised for, and thus attracts, people

who are not searching for the Divine. That is why SYs, their leaders

and the WCASY can never, and will never, explain to the public Shri

Mataji's deep, profoundly spiritual opening lines that:

 

" Only after taking realization you know that there is God and there

are vibrations. It is a very big happening all over the world. Today

I am saying that's why it's one of the greatest days for you. "

 

Why then continue associating yourself with such a dishonest,

disgraced, disintegrating and disempowered organization when you now

have Shri Mataji's word and absolute freedom to form/join

organizations that conscientiously carry and truthfully explain in

detail Her advent and message of the Resurrection to the rest of

humanity?

 

a happy future of freedom to all,

 

 

jagbir

 

 

1. Scott Ashley, The Holy Spirit: God's Power at Work "

2. Bede Griffiths, A New Vision of Reality (Western Science, Eastern

Mysticism and Christian Faith), Pgs. 142-145

3. Kundalini Yoga, Sri Swami Sivananda

4. Concepts In Sikhism - Edited by Dr. Surinder Singh Sodhi

www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Dasam_Dvar

 

 

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Tanscript of Guru Puja talk 2008

 

" Today is a great day for all of us. Because the ... you could feel

the existence of God. By saying there is God, that was not

sufficient. And to say there is no God also was wrong, very wrong,

and people have suffered, who have said like this. Only after taking

realization you know that there is God and there are vibrations. It

is a very big opening (happening?) all over the world. Today I am

saying that's why it's one of the greatest days for you.

 

Many of you have felt the cool breeze on your hands and out of

your brain. Some have grown in Sahaja Yoga, some have not. Some are

still carrying on with old catches. But now I have to say that quite

a lot of you can become gurus. Means teachers. And should you act as

teachers. To act as teacher you know Sahaja Yoga, the theory and the

practice of it, thoroughly well. And then you can become great guru.

It is a very big responsibility, lot of understanding for a guru.

 

You should not have any ego first. You should not have any of

your chakras catching. You should be absolutely clear all the time.

And then the vibrations should be flowing in both hands. If they are

moving in one hand and not in another, you cannot become guru. So

you have to be a perfect Sahaja Yogi, then you can be a guru.

 

And so many of you can be, but you have to attain first, `Are you

capable of being a guru or not?' With humbleness you will

understand, those who think they can be guru, should become gurus,

because now I can't travel from places to places. And you have to do

my job, `Is to give realization to people " . But you have to be able

to give en-mass realization, then only you could be a guru. If you

can give en-mass realization, then you could be a guru.

 

You can use my photograph, but the realization should not be from

the photograph, but from you, then only you can be a guru. There can

be ladies or men both, can become gurus, and spread Sahaja Yoga all

over. Then my whole touring business, Canada I have missed, and I

would request all of you to go to Canada, because it is a very

beautiful place. And there are many beautiful Sahaja Yogis there.

You have to do now my work. I won't be able to go all over, but you

have to go to other countries, and create new Sahaja Yogis. You can

do it.

 

To begin with you can use my photograph, but latter on, you can

only put the photograph there, but use your own powers, and give

realization. You can do it, and that is how we can spread Sahaja

Yoga all over the world. I have done my level best now, but I don't

think now I can travel anymore. So I am telling you that you have to

take over, and work it out. (Definitely you can?)... I am there with

you. And every place you work you put my photograph. But

realization you have to give and try to give mass realization, if

that doesn't work out then you should know that you are not a guru.

If you can give mass realization, then only you are a guru, otherwise

you are not.

 

I said you can use my photograph, but you have to give

realization to people. This is a sign of a guru. Then you will really

know what are different centers, and what are the things missing in

people. I have explained very clearly. In the same way you will find

those who come for realization, they have some defects and you will

find out what chakras they are catching. You know how to clear

(create?) those chakras. So you will tell them how to clear. Now

you have mastered Sahaja Yoga, so you should know what (tricks) to be

done. If you think you have mastered, if you believe that you have

mastered, then you can become guru, but first of all you should

ascertain and find out for yourself, if you are a guru or not. It is

your responsibility now to give realizations to people. And you can

give if you have vibrations, as like a guru. Or play (Devis?) also,

they are called as gurui, not as guru, but as gurui. But they can be

called as guru also. And they can also do this work very well,

solving the problems of people is not difficult then. Once they get

realization their problems will be solved. This is a big power you

have got. You all should use. First of all you can use a group, if

you want. And afterward you should do it individually. Can you

imagine all of you, if you become gurus, how many Sahaja Yogis we

will have all over the world.

 

Whatever you teach, you must practice. The person who drinks

cannot become a guru. A person who flirts and has a licentious life

cannot become a guru. So first examine yourself, `Are you clean or

not?' If there are any possessed people who try to become guru, they

cannot. Honestly you should see on the photograph if you are

possessed, then you cannot be guru. So now to become a guru is first

to criticize yourself, to find out yourself only, and then you can

become a guru. I don't want to tell anybody individually. But you

all can find out. Say 4-5 people can join together, and they can

find out from each other, if they are all right or not. If there is

missing, if they are catching. But if they say that you are all

right then you can become gurus, and you can teach Sahaja Yoga. This

is your responsibility. This is how Sahaja Yoga will grow,

otherwise after I retire or I don't go anywhere then Sahaja Yoga will

go into waste. So it is for you to carry the torch, the light. It

is your responsibility now. You have got your realization.

 

I was born with the responsibility. I was born with all

understanding. And now you are also understand yourself, do not

condemn yourself as long as you start your own realization, but be

careful don't become egoistical. You have to be very humble, very

humble with everyone. And work it out because if they are not

realized souls, you shouldn't condemn them, but tell them, very

patiently and sweetly, that you are not all right. Tell them how to

meditate, how to improve, it is now a very big responsibility.

Actually I have done this work and you can do this work also. So you

all have to become a guru. This is the day of guru (purnima). And I

bless you that you all can become gurus.

 

Whatever you have got now, " Don't waste it, don't throw it away,

but use it for the betterment of people'. If you want to (meeting),

add 4-5 people together, then you should separate, you have to give

time to this. You have got your realization, but you have to give

realization, otherwise your state is not all right, it is not normal.

 

So today I want to tell you, what are the qualities we need for a

guru. First of all he should be a detached person. That doesn't mean

you give up your family or anything. But you should have a detached

attitude. That anybody from your family does wrong, you should go

away from them, (sort it out). Secondly, through your realization

you can see you can spread happiness, and remove their problems. You

have seen whatever I have done you can do it. You have got power to

do it, but no hypocrisy. No hypocrisy, otherwise you will spoil the

name of Sahaja Yoga. So if you are sure of yourself, then really you

should become guru, and carry the work of Sahaja Yoga. I think I

gave you all my blessings, and all my support, that now you take over

and become guru. You can also have all the pujas, and then you can

use photograph. You have seen how one has to work it out. And

someone has ..?.. or some chakras are catching, then you should

tell that person how to correct it. On the photograph it is the best,

and very humbly you should tell them what is to be done. And you can

say or ... So now I am no more ..?.. businesses ... , I have done my

best, and I think I won't be able to do this again. It is not my old

age, but I want to give you a complete freedom to spread Sahaja

Yoga.

 

You have got it free, and you also have to give it to people

free, not to charge them. Or in the pujas they (take your name), be

careful that don't put yourself on the puja, till you are confirmed

and you are sure that you have created at least hundred Sahaja Yogis,

good Sahaja Yogis. Then they can do your puja also. But the best

thing is to wait and see. You don't get into puja business, till you

are, you have done a thousand people each, then you have the right to

have a puja. But you could have a puja with my photograph till you

completely all right. Now how confident is the main thing. Do not

condemn yourself. You are all realized souls, but those who can

think they can become guru, (can become and try). You have to have

patience with the seekers. You can't be angry or hot tempered.

Unless until they try to trouble you. You should not lose yourself

(temp). You should be quiet.

 

Most of the gurus are very hot-tempered ..?.. that is why they

were very busy with their temper, and they couldn't focus ..?..

realization. So I have to warn you `control your temper'. Watch

yourself if you get angry, then you cannot become a guru. You have to

be a loving person, very loving and understanding. Then you have to

be humble, not abuse people, not to shout at people. If they

misbehave you can ask them to go out. But don't shout. If you think

someone is misbehaving, you can ask that person to get out. But you

need not shout and get angry with that person.

 

So it is a very big responsibility now. You have got your

realization. So 4-5 of you join to form a Sahaja Yoga group giving

realization to people... Of course my photograph will be there. But

still you must try, try to understand that now what is your

responsibility. If the position is given, you have to always carry

on for the responsibility of that position. In the same way if you

become a guru, you have a certain amount of responsibility, that your

own behavior should be very good to begin with.

 

In the beginning you cannot tell them don't go to church, or

don't do this, don't do that. You give them realization and then you

can talk to them. In the beginning you shouldn't tell them, or they

will just shun you. Accept them as they are. In the beginning you

should not ask for (pure) people if possible. You can use my

photograph to begin with. But don't cure them. They can all, if you

are confident, then 4-5 together should treat that person. Curing

people is not very easy and you may catch. So before acting on

anyone you must take a bhandhan. Bhandhan is very good if you, even

when you are going out if you take a bhandhan.

 

You should also make a very good speech, if possible. Now you

know so many things and you can talk to them. It is a very big

responsibility.

 

Now I have been working from the year 1970. And today so many

years I have worked so hard, but I can't now do it, I have to go back

and take some (rest help). Everybody has said. And you are all

scientists. But you can tell about me, if it is necessary. But use

my photograph. Every time you have a meeting use my photograph.

 

Those who think they can be leaders, and as gurus. They should

first see their own vibration. Meditate on my photograph and find

out. You have to absolutely honest that you are one hundred percent

all right and there is no catch, and then you can become a guru. You

have to do it. First you may get two people then three people, I

started with five. You can imagine how one can go. Try first of all

two, three, five and more. You can also advertise afterward, if you

have given realization to people, say about, say I have given

realization to ten people you can start your own organization, or

whatever you may call it, and can work it out.

 

Now you have the power, you have the right, but you must have

temperament also. In the beginning you have to be very patient and

kind, very kind. Then gradually you will find that you can cure

people. You can use my photograph for curing to begin with, and

later on you can see you can cure. First of all on vibrations you

(face) what chakras are catching, which are good and which are bad.

And then you should correct them. If there is something wrong you

must correct it and then become guru. It is not just accepting that I

am going to become guru. But you have to be very, very authority on

yourself. You have to judge yourself. First of all you should find

out, `Can you become guru? And then you can tell me your reports. I'd

be very happy to know how many you have got now'. And that is how

Sahaja Yoga will spread, no doubt. It cannot remain as (it is state)

because I am withdrawing, but because now you are now so many Sahaja

Yogis, which will grow and work out. But I think now I can't travel,

and I am going back. I won't be able to come back again, not

possible.

 

So you better work it out for yourself. You must write to me if

you have ..(difficulties?).. If someone is catching or something or

if you have problems. Now I don't think any newspaper will criticize

you. They have something for me, but not for you. All of you

promise me that you will try to become gurus. I did not take any

money from you, nothing from you. I just want that you should spread

Sahaja Yoga.

 

In the beginning, you are in the pujas, don't take any presents

or money. You can only take a little money from them, if you have

need to have a hall, or a big place, but that will be much later.

First of all try with few people. It will grow very well. Now

another thing is puja you should not allow them to do to you, to

begin with, till you have done three hundred Sahaja Yogis, you can't

ask them to do you puja. You can use my photograph for the puja to

begin with. But be very careful, because you have powers now, and it

might pamper your ego, when you start thinking you are great, (no).

You have to save the world. All my work is that, and I would ask you

to write to me in India if there is any (difficulty?). Also write to

me how you are spreading Sahaja Yoga, what is happening I would like

to know. But I think you must understand that I must retire now, I

can't travel. If you have any questions ask me?

 

Those who are confident that they can become gurus raise your

hand? Oh so many --- only one hand not two.

 

If anybody is taking money, you should tell him not to do it.

Also ..(guides to him?), you cannot take money to begin with, but

when you have about three thousand people, you can celebrate all the

worshipping days, and worship, but you must make at least three

thousand disciples, then you can ask for a puja.

 

There are some people who cannot become guru, who are catching,

and they have problems. If you have problems don't become a guru

otherwise it will affect you, but if you think you are clear and

opened out then you can become gurus. Is there any question?

 

I am opening a center for international Sahaja Yoga, and when you

have done three hundred Sahaja Yogis, you can ask them to do puja and

take money. Before that if you get any money, you can send it to that

center. There would be ..?.. in that center and I will declare it.

If you have any questions ask me now?

 

First three hundred people you don't take any money, except for

the hall, or except for other expenses. But you don't take any money

for yourself. Now can you raise your hand ... who would like to be a

guru.

 

May God bless you. "

 

Shri Mataji

Guru Puja talk 2008