Guru Puja 2008: You should be absolutely clear all the time .. vibrations shou

[Guest guest]

Shri Mataji:

" Many of you have felt the cool breeze on your hands and out of your

brain. Some have grown in Sahaja Yoga, some have not. Some are still

carrying on with old catches. But now I have to say that quite

a lot of you can become gurus, means teachers. And should you act as

teachers. To act as teacher you know Sahaja Yoga, the theory and the

practice of it, thoroughly well. And then you can become great guru.

It is a very big responsibility, lot of understanding for a guru. "

[end]

 

[i seriously doubt there are more than a handful of SYs who know

about Sahaja Yoga. The vast majority follow the SYSSR which is just

the first chapter out of 108. To act as teacher you have to know

Sahaja Yoga, the theory and the practice of it, thoroughly well i.e.,

the remaining 107 chapters. i have stated a few of the chapters in my

opening post, chapters that the SY rank and file neither have the

conviction of knowledge nor the faith of belief to stand on. The

SYSSR mindset is so insidious that they are not even conscious or

conscientious of collectively committing a crime against humanity!

 

Main Entry: in•sid•i•ous

1 a: awaiting a chance to entrap : TREACHEROUS

b: harmful but enticing : SEDUCTIVE <insidious drugs>

2 a: having a gradual and cumulative effect : SUBTLE <the insidious

pressures of modern life>

b of a disease : developing so gradually as to be well established

before becoming apparent.

 

Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary]

 

 

Shri Mataji:

" You should not have any ego first. You should not have any of

your chakras catching. You should be absolutely clear all the time.

And then the vibrations should be flowing in both hands. If they are

moving in one hand and not in another, you cannot become guru. So

you have to be a perfect Sahaja Yogi, then you can be a guru. " [end]

 

[This statement effectively removes most SYs. After years of daily

foot-soaking and ritualistic treatments to rid of the ceaseless

catches, SYs cannot suddenly claim themselves to be free of catches.

Shri Mataji insists that they have to be absolutely clear all the

time, and the Cool Breeze must flow from both hands.

 

When i joined Sahaja Yoga the collective leader told me in no unclear

terms that i will never be catch-free. The reason: i told him that i

hardly feel any catches and the Cool Breeze is flowing freely. And in

all my years in Sahaja Yoga there was this daily regimen of SYs

trying all sorts of treatments to rid themselves of catches. i know

some go to Vashi, India, only to relapse a few weeks/months after

returning .... compliments of the SYSSR mindset in their collectives.

 

But i have come a long way from that all-consuming catch culture of

our SY collectives. i have experienced for years that it is possible

to be catch-free and have vibrations flowing from both hands 24/7,

provided you leave it entirely to the Mother Kundalini:

 

" Kundalini will rise and She will cleanse you completely. Kundalini

will rise and always cleanse the chakras. "

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

Sydney, Australia, March 31, 1991

 

For the majority of SYs that is not possible and i must be making it

up. As new SYs are made to believe: " You can never be catch-free " , i

guess i must be lying that the Mother Kundalini is capable of ridding

all catches. And Shri Mataji must be too! Otherwise how did the 1001

treatments of SYSSR come into being, and what was their need if the Mother

Kundalini will rise and always cleanse the chakras?

 

But we must look at the bright side. That you have to be absolutely

clear all the time and that vibrations should be flowing in both

hands almost eliminates the entire SYSSR population. (Anything to

cheer you up folks.)

 

 

Shri Mataji:

" And so many of you can be, but you have to attain first, `Are you

capable of being a guru or not?' With humbleness you will

understand, those who think they can be guru, should become gurus,

because now I can't travel from places to places. And you have to do

my job, is to give realization to people. But you have to be able

to give en-mass realization, then only you could be a guru. If you

can give en-mass realization, then you could be a guru. " (end)

 

[since 2000 Shri Mataji has drastically cut down Her travels and

pubic programs have been completely curtailed. She wants us to give

self-realization [which is far more deeper than the shallow SYSSR

being peddled]. But this self-realization must be en-mass involving

hundreds or thousands of people, and both the internet and future

looks promising. Perhaps we may be able to get deep and enlightened

souls taking part in the Resurrection who are up to that high

standards of guruship.

 

i can write in stone that SY followers of the SYSSR have absolutely

no chance of meeting the basic requirements of being a guru since

strict adherence to truth is the fundamental character of a guru, a

mandatory mark above all others. That is why the difference between

the teachings of Shri Mataji and that of the heavily edited version

of the SY organization will always surprise, even shock, all who visit

http://adishakti.org. Since Shri Mataji cannot travel and continue

anymore, that is the only site that guarantees that the Adi Shakti's

advent and message in its entirety will now survive and flourish in

future, all the more with the revolutionary changes She has set forth!

 

a happy future of freedom (from WCASY) for all,

 

 

jagbir

 

 

-

 

Tanscript of Guru Puja talk 2008

 

" Today is a great day for all of us. Because the ... you could feel

the existence of God. By saying there is God, that was not

sufficient. And to say there is no God also was wrong, very wrong,

and people have suffered, who have said like this. Only after taking

realization you know that there is God and there are vibrations. It

is a very big opening (happening?) all over the world. Today I am

saying that's why it's one of the greatest days for you.

 

Many of you have felt the cool breeze on your hands and out of

your brain. Some have grown in Sahaja Yoga, some have not. Some are

still carrying on with old catches. But now I have to say that quite

a lot of you can become gurus. Means teachers. And should you act as

teachers. To act as teacher you know Sahaja Yoga, the theory and the

practice of it, thoroughly well. And then you can become great guru.

It is a very big responsibility, lot of understanding for a guru.

 

You should not have any ego first. You should not have any of

your chakras catching. You should be absolutely clear all the time.

And then the vibrations should be flowing in both hands. If they are

moving in one hand and not in another, you cannot become guru. So

you have to be a perfect Sahaja Yogi, then you can be a guru.

 

And so many of you can be, but you have to attain first, `Are you

capable of being a guru or not?' With humbleness you will

understand, those who think they can be guru, should become gurus,

because now I can't travel from places to places. And you have to do

my job, `Is to give realization to people " . But you have to be able

to give en-mass realization, then only you could be a guru. If you

can give en-mass realization, then you could be a guru.

 

You can use my photograph, but the realization should not be from

the photograph, but from you, then only you can be a guru. There can

be ladies or men both, can become gurus, and spread Sahaja Yoga all

over. Then my whole touring business, Canada I have missed, and I

would request all of you to go to Canada, because it is a very

beautiful place. And there are many beautiful Sahaja Yogis there.

You have to do now my work. I won't be able to go all over, but you

have to go to other countries, and create new Sahaja Yogis. You can

do it.

 

To begin with you can use my photograph, but latter on, you can

only put the photograph there, but use your own powers, and give

realization. You can do it, and that is how we can spread Sahaja

Yoga all over the world. I have done my level best now, but I don't

think now I can travel anymore. So I am telling you that you have to

take over, and work it out. (Definitely you can?)... I am there with

you. And every place you work you put my photograph. But

realization you have to give and try to give mass realization, if

that doesn't work out then you should know that you are not a guru.

If you can give mass realization, then only you are a guru, otherwise

you are not.

 

I said you can use my photograph, but you have to give

realization to people. This is a sign of a guru. Then you will really

know what are different centers, and what are the things missing in

people. I have explained very clearly. In the same way you will find

those who come for realization, they have some defects and you will

find out what chakras they are catching. You know how to clear

(create?) those chakras. So you will tell them how to clear. Now

you have mastered Sahaja Yoga, so you should know what (tricks) to be

done. If you think you have mastered, if you believe that you have

mastered, then you can become guru, but first of all you should

ascertain and find out for yourself, if you are a guru or not. It is

your responsibility now to give realizations to people. And you can

give if you have vibrations, as like a guru. Or play (Devis?) also,

they are called as gurui, not as guru, but as gurui. But they can be

called as guru also. And they can also do this work very well,

solving the problems of people is not difficult then. Once they get

realization their problems will be solved. This is a big power you

have got. You all should use. First of all you can use a group, if

you want. And afterward you should do it individually. Can you

imagine all of you, if you become gurus, how many Sahaja Yogis we

will have all over the world.

 

Whatever you teach, you must practice. The person who drinks

cannot become a guru. A person who flirts and has a licentious life

cannot become a guru. So first examine yourself, `Are you clean or

not?' If there are any possessed people who try to become guru, they

cannot. Honestly you should see on the photograph if you are

possessed, then you cannot be guru. So now to become a guru is first

to criticize yourself, to find out yourself only, and then you can

become a guru. I don't want to tell anybody individually. But you

all can find out. Say 4-5 people can join together, and they can

find out from each other, if they are all right or not. If there is

missing, if they are catching. But if they say that you are all

right then you can become gurus, and you can teach Sahaja Yoga. This

is your responsibility. This is how Sahaja Yoga will grow,

otherwise after I retire or I don't go anywhere then Sahaja Yoga will

go into waste. So it is for you to carry the torch, the light. It

is your responsibility now. You have got your realization.

 

I was born with the responsibility. I was born with all

understanding. And now you are also understand yourself, do not

condemn yourself as long as you start your own realization, but be

careful don't become egoistical. You have to be very humble, very

humble with everyone. And work it out because if they are not

realized souls, you shouldn't condemn them, but tell them, very

patiently and sweetly, that you are not all right. Tell them how to

meditate, how to improve, it is now a very big responsibility.

Actually I have done this work and you can do this work also. So you

all have to become a guru. This is the day of guru (purnima). And I

bless you that you all can become gurus.

 

Whatever you have got now, " Don't waste it, don't throw it away,

but use it for the betterment of people'. If you want to (meeting),

add 4-5 people together, then you should separate, you have to give

time to this. You have got your realization, but you have to give

realization, otherwise your state is not all right, it is not normal.

 

So today I want to tell you, what are the qualities we need for a

guru. First of all he should be a detached person. That doesn't mean

you give up your family or anything. But you should have a detached

attitude. That anybody from your family does wrong, you should go

away from them, (sort it out). Secondly, through your realization

you can see you can spread happiness, and remove their problems. You

have seen whatever I have done you can do it. You have got power to

do it, but no hypocrisy. No hypocrisy, otherwise you will spoil the

name of Sahaja Yoga. So if you are sure of yourself, then really you

should become guru, and carry the work of Sahaja Yoga. I think I

gave you all my blessings, and all my support, that now you take over

and become guru. You can also have all the pujas, and then you can

use photograph. You have seen how one has to work it out. And

someone has ..?.. or some chakras are catching, then you should

tell that person how to correct it. On the photograph it is the best,

and very humbly you should tell them what is to be done. And you can

say or ... So now I am no more ..?.. businesses ... , I have done my

best, and I think I won't be able to do this again. It is not my old

age, but I want to give you a complete freedom to spread Sahaja

Yoga.

 

You have got it free, and you also have to give it to people

free, not to charge them. Or in the pujas they (take your name), be

careful that don't put yourself on the puja, till you are confirmed

and you are sure that you have created at least hundred Sahaja Yogis,

good Sahaja Yogis. Then they can do your puja also. But the best

thing is to wait and see. You don't get into puja business, till you

are, you have done a thousand people each, then you have the right to

have a puja. But you could have a puja with my photograph till you

completely all right. Now how confident is the main thing. Do not

condemn yourself. You are all realized souls, but those who can

think they can become guru, (can become and try). You have to have

patience with the seekers. You can't be angry or hot tempered.

Unless until they try to trouble you. You should not lose yourself

(temp). You should be quiet.

 

Most of the gurus are very hot-tempered ..?.. that is why they

were very busy with their temper, and they couldn't focus ..?..

realization. So I have to warn you `control your temper'. Watch

yourself if you get angry, then you cannot become a guru. You have to

be a loving person, very loving and understanding. Then you have to

be humble, not abuse people, not to shout at people. If they

misbehave you can ask them to go out. But don't shout. If you think

someone is misbehaving, you can ask that person to get out. But you

need not shout and get angry with that person.

 

So it is a very big responsibility now. You have got your

realization. So 4-5 of you join to form a Sahaja Yoga group giving

realization to people... Of course my photograph will be there. But

still you must try, try to understand that now what is your

responsibility. If the position is given, you have to always carry

on for the responsibility of that position. In the same way if you

become a guru, you have a certain amount of responsibility, that your

own behavior should be very good to begin with.

 

In the beginning you cannot tell them don't go to church, or

don't do this, don't do that. You give them realization and then you

can talk to them. In the beginning you shouldn't tell them, or they

will just shun you. Accept them as they are. In the beginning you

should not ask for (pure) people if possible. You can use my

photograph to begin with. But don't cure them. They can all, if you

are confident, then 4-5 together should treat that person. Curing

people is not very easy and you may catch. So before acting on

anyone you must take a bhandhan. Bhandhan is very good if you, even

when you are going out if you take a bhandhan.

 

You should also make a very good speech, if possible. Now you

know so many things and you can talk to them. It is a very big

responsibility.

 

Now I have been working from the year 1970. And today so many

years I have worked so hard, but I can't now do it, I have to go back

and take some (rest help). Everybody has said. And you are all

scientists. But you can tell about me, if it is necessary. But use

my photograph. Every time you have a meeting use my photograph.

 

Those who think they can be leaders, and as gurus. They should

first see their own vibration. Meditate on my photograph and find

out. You have to absolutely honest that you are one hundred percent

all right and there is no catch, and then you can become a guru. You

have to do it. First you may get two people then three people, I

started with five. You can imagine how one can go. Try first of all

two, three, five and more. You can also advertise afterward, if you

have given realization to people, say about, say I have given

realization to ten people you can start your own organization, or

whatever you may call it, and can work it out.

 

Now you have the power, you have the right, but you must have

temperament also. In the beginning you have to be very patient and

kind, very kind. Then gradually you will find that you can cure

people. You can use my photograph for curing to begin with, and

later on you can see you can cure. First of all on vibrations you

(face) what chakras are catching, which are good and which are bad.

And then you should correct them. If there is something wrong you

must correct it and then become guru. It is not just accepting that I

am going to become guru. But you have to be very, very authority on

yourself. You have to judge yourself. First of all you should find

out, `Can you become guru? And then you can tell me your reports. I'd

be very happy to know how many you have got now'. And that is how

Sahaja Yoga will spread, no doubt. It cannot remain as (it is state)

because I am withdrawing, but because now you are now so many Sahaja

Yogis, which will grow and work out. But I think now I can't travel,

and I am going back. I won't be able to come back again, not

possible.

 

So you better work it out for yourself. You must write to me if

you have ..(difficulties?).. If someone is catching or something or

if you have problems. Now I don't think any newspaper will criticize

you. They have something for me, but not for you. All of you

promise me that you will try to become gurus. I did not take any

money from you, nothing from you. I just want that you should spread

Sahaja Yoga.

 

In the beginning, you are in the pujas, don't take any presents

or money. You can only take a little money from them, if you have

need to have a hall, or a big place, but that will be much later.

First of all try with few people. It will grow very well. Now

another thing is puja you should not allow them to do to you, to

begin with, till you have done three hundred Sahaja Yogis, you can't

ask them to do you puja. You can use my photograph for the puja to

begin with. But be very careful, because you have powers now, and it

might pamper your ego, when you start thinking you are great, (no).

You have to save the world. All my work is that, and I would ask you

to write to me in India if there is any (difficulty?). Also write to

me how you are spreading Sahaja Yoga, what is happening I would like

to know. But I think you must understand that I must retire now, I

can't travel. If you have any questions ask me?

 

Those who are confident that they can become gurus raise your

hand? Oh so many --- only one hand not two.

 

If anybody is taking money, you should tell him not to do it.

Also ..(guides to him?), you cannot take money to begin with, but

when you have about three thousand people, you can celebrate all the

worshipping days, and worship, but you must make at least three

thousand disciples, then you can ask for a puja.

 

There are some people who cannot become guru, who are catching,

and they have problems. If you have problems don't become a guru

otherwise it will affect you, but if you think you are clear and

opened out then you can become gurus. Is there any question?

 

I am opening a center for international Sahaja Yoga, and when you

have done three hundred Sahaja Yogis, you can ask them to do puja and

take money. Before that if you get any money, you can send it to that

center. There would be ..?.. in that center and I will declare it.

If you have any questions ask me now?

 

First three hundred people you don't take any money, except for

the hall, or except for other expenses. But you don't take any money

for yourself. Now can you raise your hand ... who would like to be a

guru.

 

May God bless you. "

 

Shri Mataji

Guru Puja talk 2008

[Guest guest]

>

> But i have come a long way from that all-consuming catch culture of

> our SY collectives. i have experienced for years that it is possible

> to be catch-free and have vibrations flowing from both hands 24/7,

> provided you leave it entirely to the Mother Kundalini:

>

> " Kundalini will rise and She will cleanse you completely. Kundalini

> will rise and always cleanse the chakras. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> Sydney, Australia, March 31, 1991

>

> For the majority of SYs that is not possible and i must be making it

> up. As new SYs are made to believe: " You can never be catch-free " , i

> guess i must be lying that the Mother Kundalini is capable of

> ridding all catches. And Shri Mataji must be too! Otherwise how did

> the 1001 treatments of SYSSR come into being, and what was their need

> if the Mother Kundalini will rise and always cleanse the chakras?

>

 

i still remember hearing Shri Mataji questioning SYs why practise

Sahaja Yoga when you have to still footsoak. Apparently Shri Mataji

found out that many SYs were doing this ritual daily despite having

spent years in Sahaja Yoga, and She was chiding them ..... perhaps for

their lack of spiritual progress/powers but probably for lack of plain

common sense. So till we get that tape to slay another sacred cow of

the SYSSR this should suffice:

 

" Human being thinks that they are alright, since they are doing these

rituals since thousand years. All the wrong teachings they are still

following. For this reason Sahaja Yoga is against Karma Kanda, that is

rituals. No need to do any kind of Karma Kanda.

 

And to go to the extreme point is also dangerous. I had asked them to

shoe-beat to destroy their ego and what I see that every morning all

the Sahaja Yogis go in the line with their shoes for shoe-beatings. But

I had asked to do this if you have ego in you.

 

All these rituals have entered into Sahaja Yoga. I got somebody in

France with the list of the treatments of Vashi hospital. But that was

for sick peoples. This is the nature of human being to follow the

rituals because he thinks that he can do it. "

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

25 December 1997, Christmas Puja

Ganapatipule, Maharashtra, India